IGN - Raidens new mission is substantial, awesome, and very Metal Gear.
if you still hate this game don't call yourself a Metal Gear fan
That's a lot of bull, and here's why. Everyone has opinions, perhaps someone doesn't like this type of game in general, without even looking at the title. Your comment comes off as "everyone must like this game or you are not a Metal Gear fan". Bullshit. I think by now, all the serious fans understand that it's just a spin-off, at least a lot of people I know, including myself. The game looks good, and the newest trailer showing a bit more of the story was very good. But saying this game is Metal Gear is still a load of bull from IGN, because it's not. At it's core, it's still a hack and slash like Platinum always does, but there's nothing wrong with that, they are trying something different. With the demo/announcement of Ground Zeroes however, I feel this game will quickly lose interest to the fans who have been waiting for the next real game in the series after Peace Walker.
@BigCmAN - Thats the difference with being a loyal fan and a rabbid fam. Loyal fans would applaud this move of making a spin off on a different genre so more people can enjoy MGS...belive it or not there are some people who like the MG universe but are hack n slash fans as well. Its not like Konami is not giving you guys MGS5 and forcing you to buy this game...just be happy that other people are excited to play it instead of moaning about it.
Sick of people using this argument "With the demo/announcement of Ground Zeroes however, I feel this game will quickly lose interest to the fans who have been waiting for the next real game in the series after Peace Walker." I've been waiting for a true MGS after Peace walker. As MGS is my favorite series, however I also can't wait for this game because it looks amazing. It's as simple as that, just because this game is called Metal gear does not make it look anything less than it is. This game looks amazing. Really, it's quite sad that Metal Gear rising is actually taking heat because it's called Metal gear. Edit---Also, I don't agree with IGN, but I rarely do either way
I don't see why some of the true fans are hating, it's just a spin off, their will still be a MGS Ground Zeroes and a MGS5.
But they can call themselves Metal Gear 'Solid' fans right?
I'm shocked at how good of a job they seem to have done here. I'm definitely gonna be picking it up at some point. I think people just need to lose their expectations of it being a Metal Gear Solid game. It's set after MGS4 so doesn't affect any storyline in between earlier games, if that is anyone's problem. Have they said it's canon? I don't really care cause I'm not treating it as such. It's not like Capcom is doing by shaping a bad future for the Resident Evil series with their main entries. It's a spin-off. Ground Zeroes will continue the MGS legacy. And no j-blaze. Again exuding your ignorance and hatred for people that don't share your tastes. Any game developed under the MG name could be crap, but you would still lap it up. That's your problem, yet you still have the cheek to critisize Naughty Dog fanboys. smh!!!
So because Raiden uses a codec and there's alert states, it's Metal Gear? He even said it's Metal Gear because of alternate weapons. Haha, wha? Where does IGN find these people? It's not canon, it's not Kojima, it's not Metal Gear. That's not a dig at the game, it's a reality. Doesn't mean it won't be fun, awesome even, but MG: Ground Zeroes is a true Metal Gear game.
And it takes place 4 years after the events of Guns of the Patriots. So what if it isn't snake. He is isn't the only character of the Metal Gear Universe, Last I remember Raiden in his Cyborg Ninja form was a prominent character throughout MGS4. You're right it isn't metal gear Solid, but it was never meant to be, Solid Snake is no longer the Main character, Raiden is Far more invasive versus Solid Snake who is evasive!
Sorry but Solid Snake>Raiden
It's not canon. It's in the Meta Gear universe, but has nothing to do with the Solid series. Kojima producing is not the same as Kojima directing. Also, there's a "touch" of stealth. All that said, I'm interested in checking it out. I'm just sick of outlets claiming it's something it isn't. Let it and the skill of Platinum Games speak for itself.
People only say Snake because that's all they ever played with through out the MGS franchise with the exception of 2. And once again its Canon, it may not have Solid in its title now, but it did when it was announced. Producers product is still his, which means he gives the executive desicions of what content gets in the game. After all he's the fucking writer of the script and the final say. The director just makes sure the green lighted content on the script translates the best way to silver screen and media. Don't sit there and call it non canon when it picks up 4 years after the events in the solid franchise, Guns of the Patriots, which is canon to the metal gear universe and Solid snake story. People are still trying to discredit this game because you aren't crawling around and choking people with snake so its not metal gear? Lol, if you say so. But its every bit as metal gear as the previous, because Kojima is wrote the story and is producing the game while Platinum is developing. I don't know how people could sit there and think Kojima would just hand his universe and characters over to some other studio and not have a hand in its relevance to what he created. Fans are so easily dismissive when they feel they are entitled.
I'll stand and say it's not canon then. I don't care how long after MGS 4 it takes place, it's not canon. It's not the Solid universe, period. Throwing a Metal Gear battle in the mix doesn't make it canon. Etsu Tamari is the writer, so before you spout anymore misinformation, look up what it is you're talking about.
I think it's a joint venture with kojima productions doing the story and platinum games the gameplay ( correct me if I'm wrong ). So if that's the case it definitely is canon. Just not solid snake canon. I'm loving the look of rising, looking forward to it more than ground zeroes...if only because it'll be out much sooner!
The best part is, even if you're ripping this guy a new one - it IS very Metal Gear. It features a Metal Gear to battle against. The new trailer shown at TGS shows Raiden fighting a Metal Gear. OMG indeed.
Dude it's canon they've already said it's canon. Metal Gear is the universe and Metal Gear Solid is a part of that universe and so is Metal Gear Rising. Two different games, all part of the same story. If you don't like it then you can either deal with it or stop playing the games.
Don't know too much about the MG games, only completed Snake eater. But having watched the new trailer last night I don't think it looks very metal gear at all...
The reason its called metal gear is brand recognition just look at other games that do this. -Bioshock infinite -LBP karting -Resident evil operation raccoon city Among others. Not saying the game ont be good but the reason it carries the name metal gear is solely for selling the product.
I loved every metal gear game ive played except for MGS2 guns of the patriots because you have to be that whiny raiden character for over half the game. Raiden sucks, cyborg ninja or not hes prob still whiny.
Oh hell no you didn't. Raiden was [email protected]$$ in MGS4..!
Perhaps, but i was refering to mgs2 not 4. And he was a whiny bastard in 2.
I for one loved mgs 2 , it's part of the story , i love mgs 3 and 4 , i didnt play mgs 1 (dont have money) i don't know if you can call me a fan or not but i am really really excited for this game , i always wanted a game that let me control the sword , i even think they steal many ideas from my head XD , even when i start a new trailer i say i wish this could happen to make the game more connected and it happen in the trailer >.< .. i loved it more when i saw the original version that got cancelled but i will get over it..
This game is not a Metal Gear, deal with it
I can't wait how they are gonna explain Raiden leaving Rose to go and fight shit again Those 'stealth' elements they showed the last trailer doesn't mean the game is near being Metal Gear like. If we are gonna use stealth that loosely than Uncharted 3 is a stealth game. Its an action game, and until its out we won't know if its good or not. (the story looks cheesy from the trailers though)
the only Metal Gear thing about this game is Raiden and even then it seems like he went through a personality change or something. The story and presentation are more Vanquish over the top anime than anything else. If you think this game looks very Metal Gear then you know crap about Metal Gear. But this is IGN, the ones that gave a 10 and an editor's choice award to MGS4 and then made a PS3 recommendation article and didn't include it because Greg Miller say that the game's crap. Can you believe it?
I've just finished playing through the series in chronological order and I think it looks pretty metal gear...the bosses, enemies, big metal gear at the end of that trailer :P
I'm going to say it again..Raiden is the man.
Funny thing is. If it wasn't metal gear people would be all over it. Which is stupid because there's 2 confirmed solid games comin so you people need to just stop your pointless whining.
Ign is one of biggest attention whore sites in gaming....enuff said.
Ok, so I suppose Torchwood is not canon because even tho it's a spin off, it's not related to Doctor Who.....Gawd, no wonder so many people are noobs. If you saw the E3 trailer, at the beginning, it shows Raiden from a child to who he is in MGR....do you guys know what canon means? or has your mind been screwed so much by focusing on Zelda's timeline?
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