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“Wii U Has Less CPU Power – And It’s A Challenge”

Dynasty Warriors chief Akihiro Suzuki has confirmed claims that the Wii U has lower CPU power than the PS3 and Xbox360, and admitted that this poses a real challenge for developers.

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Hatsune-Miku1466d ago (Edited 1466d ago )

That's just ridiculous. The anonymous source did say that and was telling the truth despite a lot of other developers talking about how powerful the system is. I foresee trouble with the Wii you and the CPU creating a bottleneck. It's not more powerful than the xbox and ps3 fundamentally. It won't be able to do things like in killzone where there are mass amounts of squad mates aiding you and such. Or like in lair where over a thousand enemies are on screen. I think even the ps vita is better than the Wii u.

The Wii u is a disappointment. This is suppose to last until 2019 when people will be able to travel in petrol powered automobile. I don't think so

mike1up1466d ago (Edited 1466d ago )

*yawn*

After the title, there's actually an interview. Shocking, isn't it?

"However, the developer also went on to praise the capability of the Wii U from a visual standpoint, claiming it has a clear edge over existing consoles in that department."

“From a visual standpoint, based on the performance of the Wii U, we knew the game had the capability of having much better graphics than games on PS3 and Xbox 360,” he added. “Make no mistake, from a visual standpoint, it is able to produce better graphics.”

Hatsune-Miku1466d ago

I can't wait for the Cinderella ball to see all the spinning fanatics will do. It can do better things graphically but the CPU is rubbish

mike1up1466d ago

Sorry, trolls aren't invited to the Cinderella ball.

LX-General-Kaos1466d ago (Edited 1466d ago )

good job sir mr_mike

voted for intelligent

kabala1466d ago

If I'm not mistaking theTurbographx 16 had a 8bit cpu but a 16bit graphic processor and it had awesome.games like Blazing lazers & Bonk to name a few. Hell the SNES cpu was much slower than the Genesis and we all know the games it produced. So the WiiU will be fine.

DivineAssault 1465d ago (Edited 1465d ago )

So a few character models on the screen that will look minimally btr than current gen justifies the lack of polygon count it can handle per frame? Yes maybe they can have shinier objects here n there but the CPU being weaker means that future ports will suffer & i HIGHLY doubt that wii u will have lead development for multiplat games.. Even if it ever happens to outshine current gen, nx gen is right behind this wii u bro.. If it struggles to do things on 6-7 yr old systems, what do u think will happen when the big guns are brought out? I know nintendo will take the time with 1st party to make em run, play, & look great.. However another round of mario kart, mario land, & starfox looking better is something fans want, not the whole gaming community.. 3rd party games are critical to a consoles success & they way things are going, nintendo will b the only ones selling anything on their consoles & that can spell SEGA.. & Kabala ^^^ what happened to turbo graphics 16? Wheres its franchises?

krazykombatant1465d ago

Hahaha all of these replies from you are class bubble up!

specialguest1465d ago

b-b-but da blast-processing?!?

classic commercial haha:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

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shodan741466d ago

While the CPU power is undoubtedly a disadvantage, the Wii U can produce stronger visuals, and is obviously quite innovative from a gameplay standpoint and the way it approaches gaming as a whole - just as the Wii was.

Kingnichendrix1466d ago

Yeah it really is innovative, you can now play games in a different room when the console is in the other with a tablet controller It is mind boggling really the innovation and the massive advances nintendo made from gamecube, to wii to wiiu

Christopher1465d ago

So we go with a focus on graphics > capability?

I'm not sold on the Wii U, but if that's all it's going to bring to the table as far as processing power, that's not selling me on the idea.

ritsuka6661466d ago

I feel sorry for this DEV. I feel even more sorry for those that actually believe him though.

Kingnichendrix1466d ago

And they have finally joined the stage with sony in terms of hate they get

r211466d ago

Dude, stop hating. Also, you're gonna loose your bubbles. You've got three left before you join the one bub club :L

DeadlyFire1466d ago (Edited 1466d ago )

Well if you look at the CPU. Standard 4 core Power7 runs at 100W + the GPU which is anywhere from 20-45W.

Nintendo wanted low power usage so they gutted the CPU to make it run at a low wattage. I don't even think PS3/X360 CPUs run at that low Wattage to keep whole system under 75 watts. When I saw WiiU only runs at 75W it made me worry a bit, but graphically it should be full powered GPU. So it shouldn't be to bad on it. Power of the CPU should not really be to far behind PS3/X360 if true.

WiiUalpha1466d ago

The better the chip the less power it uses. Smaller dyes mean less power too. A chip today can do more with 75watts than a chip 9 years ago could do with 125watts.

DeadlyFire1466d ago

That's what I am trying to say. :P Power7 is definitely more efficient than Cell/X360 CPU. Even if it has less Gflops/Wattage the insides are likely faster improved design.

WiiUalpha1466d ago

Sorry but that isnt what it looks like. You say they gutted the CPU, but that isnt the case. It doesnt need to be gutted to be superior power wise.
a 36nm chip can do more than a 45nm chip but it uses less power. DDR3 RAM can do more than DDR2 RAM but it uses less power to do so.

Running on 75watts is nothing to worry about when compared to chips designed in 2004-2005.

stuntman_mike1466d ago (Edited 1466d ago )

i think the Graphics chip is based on the E6760 that runs at 35W.

the graphic chip seems very capable especially compared to whats on PS3 and X360.

http://www.techpowerup.com/...

DeadlyFire1465d ago (Edited 1465d ago )

Possibly Stuntman. One thing to note though is that any GPU could be a GPGPU from AMD. Since they all support OpenCL. If you take E6760 and compare it to AMD 6750M. Its roughly the same part. So we know where the base for the E6760 comes from essentially. 4.8 Gigapixels is rather small transition up from PS3/X360's 4.4. Very similar to a PSVita/PS3 comparison. As PSVita supports 4.0 Gigapixels with its GPU. What does Gigapixels have to do with Graphics? Well it makes a difference believe it or not.

I personally was hoping for something a little stronger around 800-1000 Gflop range. I mean sure E6760 can do a little more than 4850 with graphics, but that is only due to the fact that graphics have progressed naturally over the years. Comparing it to PS3 or X360 GPUs we only see a small gain over them if E6760 is true. Now even with a low-end 7000 series Mobile GPU though they could have a higher Gigapixel, Gflops, and Gtextile rate that would be decent at a lower TDP.

I wouldn't count out the possibility that Nintendo went with a mid-range 7000 series Mobile GPU converted to an embedded GPU. I am thinking something with 9-10.x Gigapixel rate, in the 20s Textile rate, and 600-1000 Gigaflops. All while having under 40 TDP. Which puts the GPU in range to match AMD 4850 exactly with slightly more or less power depending. I believe personally going with AMD E6760 is too low, but that is just me and its specs are less than what a typical AMD 4850 GPU and Mobile GPU would produce.

I believe GPGPU based off AMD 7750M is the worst case scenario that would make any sense that Nintendo would aim to produce. Which is only a slight bump from E6760, but has much higher specs and a lower TDP.

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YoungPlex1466d ago

“From a visual standpoint, based on the performance of the Wii U, we knew the game had the capability of having much better graphics than games on PS3 and Xbox 360,” he added. “Make no mistake, from a visual standpoint, it is able to produce better graphics.”

Graphically the Wii U will out-class these current consoles! Once developers learn how to utilize the extra RAM and GPGPU Power, the Wii U will start to show it's true colors. Keep holding onto ridiculous misconceptions about the Wii U is bottle-necked, the only thing that is bottle-necked is PS3 RAM, which doesn't even allow cross-game chat!

DivineAssault 1465d ago

Wii U doesnt have cross game chat either & its 6 years NEWER! Everything coming from everywhere has been negative about this console.. Clinging on to a few plusses & ignoring the minuses.. Did u even mention he said "a lot of enemies on screen, the PERFORMANCE is affected"??? So now nintendo fans are automatically graphics whores??? Gameplay is key remember? i guess the wii u really is a wii in HD.. Same limitations with better graphics & a single touch gamepad with 3-5 hour battery life.. A cheap pro controller w virtually no rumble, no dvd or blu ray media, handicapped network, handicapped 3rd party M rated software, & last gen multiplayer wii mote support.. But hey, the graphics will look btr than wii

rpd1231466d ago (Edited 1466d ago )

I hate to break it to you, but the majority of cars in existence are petrol powered. Gas and petrol are the same thing. Dumbass.

ChickeyCantor1466d ago

" It won't be able to do things like in killzone where there are mass amounts of squad mates aiding you and such. Or like in lair where over a thousand enemies are on screen. I think even the ps vita is better than the Wii u. "

Again, you're pretending to know anything about hardware or how you can utilize it.

WE GET IT. You don't like the Wii-U. You want it to fail. Go cry more, but not here.

FFS dude.

neogeo1466d ago TrollingShow
nintendojunkie281465d ago

"I think even the ps vita is better than the Wii u"

You should be ashamed of yourself.

NewZealander1465d ago

Hatsune-Miku

you have got to be the most negative person i have seen on this site, why so much hate?

and i don't know why you seem to think you know everything about a console that you had no part in creating, maybe you should just do what most normal people do and play it for yourself when its released, how can you form such opinions without even trying the thing?

we all know wii U wont be true next gen, but who cares, thats not what gaming is all about, i love great graphics, but weather wii U is inferior or superior makes no difference to me, wii U is simply what the wii should have been in the first place, and im looking forward to seeing what it can do without comparing it to other consoles.

finally a real HD zelda game? im sold!
the thought of finally playing a real HD mario kart game against my friends is awesome, ive been waiting for that for ages!

like it or not nintendo offers things that the other companies dont care about, like family friendly games, just good old fun casual games, im over every game being a dude with a gun that shoots shit.

SilentNegotiator1465d ago

I hope you realize that you just gave WiiU fanboys an excuse to completely side-step the issue presented by the article. The responses to your comment, the first of the page, will probably extend down the entirety of the first page.

If you're going to troll, at least say something that won't derail the article that already has a negative thing to say about the thing you're trolling against.

NoFanboyRequired1465d ago

Lol at you saying the vita is more powerful than the wiiU.

My 3rd gen intel i7 is more powerful than the vita alone. No doubt about that. Pretty insane how my i7 can run gotham city impostors maxed out with more than 60pfps on my toshiba laptop.

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mike1up1466d ago (Edited 1466d ago )

"The full interview with Suzuki is over at the Eurogamer site now."

The same Eurogamer that blatantly misquoted SEGA's statements about the WiiU? Well, that explains the title.

FinalomegaS1466d ago

It's either japanese devs arent quoted properly or translated correctly.

At some point it' going to look like no one really knows this systems true capability.

Or maybe they know how to use more than 80% of the current gens cpu power and only 20% of the wiiu.

Or the current gens cpu are more powerful than wiiu

TheLyonKing1466d ago

Am kinda bored with all these wii U articles,

Wii U doesn't have enough CPu, wii U is more powerful than 360 etc etc

I have pre ordered the console and I will see for myself it is not my problem if developers don't like a challenge anymore. PS3 has these kinds of things where they were "struggling" but people got to grips with it and now it is impressive. Give the Wii U a chance I would say that not even 1% on N4G are developers so it is no skin of your nose.

GenericNameHere1466d ago

Less CPU or not, we surely won't be getting anything groundbreaking from this developer, especially of Dynasty Warriors fame.

madjedi1465d ago

It doesn't matter if it's the dw devs or rockstar devs, if it is a true statement then it is a true statement.