"The addition of this new model just shows that Sony is running out of ways to compete with Nintendo and Microsoft." | Explosion.com
It not suppose to...
but realistically that is what sony is hoping it will do. It isnt uncommon for one company to try and prolong their product in the wake of something new coming out. It is just their way of trying to steal the thunder while at the same time remaining relevant.
I think they kind of gave up, they can't do Anything, there is nothing MS or Sony can do to avoid people buying the U, price-cuts would have helped, but that didn't happen from Sony's part, nothing is known from MS either, but even then, U Black model preorders are @ full just in days and I'm sure White model stock will be limited, everything will be sold out when it's released
That's what Sony told you? And here we were all thinking they were cutting costs.
As long as the Wii U is playing games that are on and look the same as PS3/360 versions, both MS and Sony can compete.
Would think they'd try a bit harder if it were going up against the Wii by reducing the price. I think this is just more a case of evolution.
"The addition of this new model just shows that Sony is running out of ways to compete with Nintendo and Microsoft.". That is what this shows? Really? What about continuing to give us great games. That isn't that a way to compete? If not then I think gaming is in more trouble then I thought it was.
I.. I just... I don't... I give up. Some people just can't use their brains can they? A new form factor to reduce costs and revitalise the brand before the latest wave of games are released this autumn/winter, and so this person says that it's because they're "running out of ways to compete".. These amateurs should give up and go back to school.
Oh, it gets better! Here's the extended quote: "The addition of this new model just shows that Sony is running out of ways to compete with Nintendo and Microsoft. While the next generation XBOX is already in development and the Wii U is slated for release this holiday season, all they can do is wave around a brand new model that has the exact same capabilities as their older Slim version." So, according to the author, this holiday season people will buy the Wii U because it's new hardware. Microsoft gets included on the same boat, because they are working on a new system, despite nothing being announced at this point. As for Sony, they won't sell PS3s because it's old hardware, and since they haven't announced the PS4, surely they can't be working on it. I'm not making this stuff up, it's that dumb! And here I thought Sony and Microsoft were in similar situations when compared to Nintendo. How silly of me... Apparently it's Microsoft and Nintendo that are in similar situations when compared to Sony./s
The 'last wave of games' is most certainly not this Winter. The PS3 will see a steady stream of games throughout all of 2013 and into 2014. And 2014 will probably see an equally strong line-up, we just don't know what it is because many of those games haven't been announced yet. Stop assuming the generation is over just because other people keep saying it is. Look at the games. The PS3 is still going strong and will continue to go strong for quite a while yet.
Xof, I said "latest" not "last". I agree with everything you said, but you need to read what I said more carefully.
*facepalm*..... Stupid article....
True. It wasn't meant to combat the Wii U, anyone can see that. It may steal some customers from the Wii U, and generate more income for Sony, but the PS4 is what they are betting on. This generation is almost over, so when the ps4 comes out this newer, cheaper console will be the only one available to buy. Which is a smart move, as they are cheaper to make and ship due to their size and weight. More money = More exclusive games. Well, at least with Sony...
indeed. =p http://youtu.be/xWnJyKQACXA...
replace ps3 in the title with wiiU and replace wiiU with ps4 = fixed..
PS3/360/Wii will outsell WiiU this holiday season.
3 consoles VS. 1... REALLY?!?!?!?
To be honest, I'm kinda skeptical about Wii U. Sure it's great and all...but...meh.
I think he was saying that ALL those system would outsell the Wii U, not all of them combined.
Stupid read. How is that running out of idea's. Costs less to make. Give console a fresh look. It's smaller. Different loader. But still plays great games and many more to come. For all mario lovers, there is WII U.
You can't compare a new model to a new console...
well the wii u is current gen and i dont care what the nintendo fangirls say about it...it is CURRENT GEN. so yes i can compare a ps3 or a xbox 360 with the wii u because they are all CURRENT GEN
Oh shit, this guy knows the specs! Care to share'em? =P
Well ALOT of Devs have stated that the Wii U is not Next Gen it's Nintendo's entry into current gen. But people are blind and will belive what ever they want. But if you do the research the facts are there.
All I have to say is my 40GB fat that I got about 4 years ago just got red light, and I was looking forward to the rumor about a revision releasing soon, becoming a fact. So here we are with a confirmation, with no price cut....I thought that was the main purpose of revisions?? This model could've done some damage to WiiU sales in my opinion if it had a price cut. My reason why, is because the games releasing around the WiiU launch directly attract a majority of that fanbase. Battle Royale, LBKarting, etc etc. I don't understand sony sometimes man.....it's like almost everytime they get something good going there's something they do or don't do, that basically makes it underwhelming. I do appreciate all the AAA exclusives they provide but they have to step it up in other aspects of this market because while software play a large part, it's not the only part....smh.
then get a current slot-loading high quality model while the supplies last, $250; or get the new 500GB with Assassin's 3 for $300
"This model could've done some damage to WiiU sales in my opinion if it had a price cut. My reason why, is because the games releasing around the WiiU launch directly attract a majority of that fanbase. Battle Royale, LBKarting, etc etc." Wii U isn't out yet, so there is no need for Sony to rush to throw everything they have at Nintendo right now. There's still two months to go. Last year on Black Friday, Sony had a 160GB PS3 with LBP2 and Ratchet & Clank: All 4 One for $200. Odds are, with Nintendo releasing the Wii U just a week before Black Friday, they won't be doing any bundle deals this year. The Wii U has a good chance of selling out regardless of what Sony, or MS for that matter, choose to do. Sony will likely be selling the 250GB new PS3 with a few games (likely with LBP Karting or AllStars as one of the games) for $200. That will likely be Sony's response, and it will come when it's most important. It's not about slowing down Nintendo. They will likely easily sell through available stock. That's when Sony sticks a great bundle out there to capitalize on shoppers who either couldn't get a Wii U or are willing to consider a cheaper alternative.
Game consoles from Sony and MS suck real bad this gen. I have had 4 360's and 2 PS3's die on me including a slim version and I still have my NES,SNES,N64,GAME CUBE and Wii and they are all still working lets hope the Wii U is built like a brick too. MS and Sony should feel bad for selling me a product that has a life cycle of 6 years max.
It can probably take away some sales. It has an already established library. It's also coming out with an Assassins Creed bundle and Uncharted 3 if I remember correctly. Though they should have had one for $200 in my opinion.
I personally am not a fan of the new ps3, but if it cuts production cost and save a studio or 2 in the process. Sony is gushing, no hemorrhaging money hand over fist, hopefully the ps3 will help get them closer to the black. Sony: cut the tv dept, your killing yourself.
of course it can't compete because its more expensive than the regular slim.
Technically, they're competing due to the obvious fact that they're both in the home console market.
woo video games and the unrelenting nauseating luke warm vomit smelling presence of choice. why cant we just have it all.
there is nothing that the current systems can do to really combat what the wiiu is bringing to the gaming world right now
They're all bringing gaming experiences, some that are only available on their respective platforms. I'd call that a good way to combat what the competition is bringing to the game world.
Nintendo is releasing the first next gen console, of course its going to be the hot thing. I think Sony and Microsoft will actually do okay this holiday, mostly because some people aren't going to be able to find a Wii U and will have to settle for Xbox 360 or PS3 instead. Bundles and deals on Black Friday should help the other two as well, but its just foolish to think six+ year old hardware is going to compete with something new.
Why not? Didnt the PS2 outsold the 360 for a few month after the 360 was released?
No, the Xbox 360 sold around 3 million units in the first 90 days. If you didn't pre-order one, you couldn't find one until deep in 2006.
Really? http://arstechnica.com/unca... Dont know if the PS2 outsold the 360 in Europe on that period of time but i think its safe to say that it did in Japan.
@Chunky dude the 360 barely sold 3 millions units its first half year on the market. Didnt start really selling until Gears Of War dropped
Appart from the big nintendo fans , most core gamer won,t go crazy for wiiu at launch due to the fact that 90% of the launch games offering is already available on ps3/360 or comig out at the same time. I am not saying i won,t get it eventually but not right now and not for that price.
Speak for yourself. There are a lot of GAMING fans that will be looking to get their hands on it. Gaming isn't about splitting people into groups ("core" vs "casual") its about being entertained and/or being competitive but gaming is nothing that should be taken extremely seriously unless your getting paid for it, these are toys afterall. Plus Parents will be looking to pick this thing up as well. Its not about 'core gamers' cause the bulk of sales come from people who aren't on sites like this, don't read gaming mags, don't watch gaming vids....those are the people that will make up the majority of sales. You think the PS3/360 install base is 70% core? Your dreaming or don't know what a casual gamer is or the power they have in business.
I personally would never settle for a ps3 now that I have owned one as the 360 by far blows the mess that ps3 is and has been with all its tacked on crap, menu after sub menu, did you forget to turn on full rgb, damn another firmware update, what another manual install that only partially installs part of the game so it can keep up with the 360, underwhelming multiplats most all of this gen, high entry price, no cross game chat, trerrible web browser, and i could go on but I say a pleasant thank but No thank you to another ps3.
Since when do you compare the Wii to PS3 anyway. i think a better comparison would be Wii U vs X 360 because PS3 is blu-ray and of course Wii U and X360 are not. But nintendo cannot even get away from the mine craft style gameplay. Specaiilly when Madden NFL 13 looks like Madden 04 on the PS2.
The WiiU runs on blu-ray discs. Get with it.
the PS3 Have over 137 Exclusives
How many are developed by SCEA?
this is why sony cant compete with nitendo. the wiiu is the same price as an old last gen console (ie ps3) who will 'cop' a rehashed ps3 over a brand spanking new/cutting edge wiiu? sony have lost their minds. the super slim looks cheap and tacky with that corrugated card look
The Wii U is nothing more than a modified Wii with the same graphics and handheld tv controller. Nintendo has not even put an HDMI port on their console yet not to mention not even a fiber optic cable for sound. Thus PS3 and X360 has both. Nintendo is still living in the Tube TV days. You can pop Madden 04 in the PS2 and get the same graphics the Wii U or Wii is offering.
Nice try but the WiiU has an HDMI port and comes with a high-speed HDMI cable. If you didn't know this, HDMI carries the digital audio channels as well so there's no need for a seperate optical cable or coaxial cable port on this system. For those that don't have A/V receivers capable of processing both image and sound data through HDMI. The WiiU has the standard Multi-out port, to which the same audio cables from the Wii can be used. Or they may even release a multi-out port version with a coaxial cable end, to carry the digital audio signal for those that don't have updated receivers.
Wow. I stand corrected on the HDMI port. But your right about it does carry digital audio channels. But the Fiber optic is made just for the audio not audio and video so you get better sound. Ck1x thanks for pointing this out. hopefully the wii u produces the quality that HDMI provides. But we will see
" the wiiu is the same price as an old last gen console (ie ps3) who will 'cop' a rehashed ps3 over a brand spanking new/cutting edge wiiu? " Maybe people that want more than 10-20 games to choose from. Especially if those games can be gotten cheaper on ps3/360. Realise just because you nintendo guys are pissing your pants, being over excited about the wii u, doesn't the rest of us have to as well. Cutting edge lmao, first pc's can be cutting edge and that gets $$$ and is rendered inferior in a relatively short time. 2nd the wii u, is more powerful than the ps3/360, but also 7 yrs newer. That is a seriously pathetic bragging point. Lastly the full details about the wii u, are still not fully revealed, so you have fun hyping up a console surrounded by ? marks. Just because it is the newest console doesn't always mean it is the best one, especially to people that aren't nintendo fanboys. Hardware is worthless without the software to run on it. Your screaming about the console, what your dumbass should be talking about is the games. Either launch or post launch lineup. That is what will convince people to buy the wii u, not because it's newer and more powerful. And yet nintendo guys are always accusing ps3/360 gamers of putting too much emphasis on graphics.
go back to mario rainbows and keep it shut nintendo fangirl...enjoy your casual console..let the core gamers do the talk here kkthxbb
Seriously dumb comment. Learn your history Nintendo saved this whole industry in the early eighties. What's more hard core than that you sally.
@aj Yeah another fool stuck in the past. " Learn your history Nintendo saved this whole industry in the early eighties." And the reason we should bow down and praise them for this is what exactly. It was 20+ yrs ago, move on already, the rest of the industry has and left nintendo behind, struggling to catch up to modern gaming. You pro nintendo guys, need to realise alot of us are old gamers that started gaming on nes or prior. So alot of us know our gaming history, some of us just aren't big on nintendo. The definition of hardcore can change wildly from person to person.
Bet money that those "core" gamers you speak of actually know how to appreciate a good game on any console while they toss your shit on whatever game you pick up
@ThePCz ur such a fangirl, the wii-u is priced near current gen because it is current gen. its what the Xbox was to the ps2, a little better tech wise but not enough to be next gen, so why does the wii-u get to be considered next gen? oh yeah because of being a faaaangirl. seriously, ur nintendo kids act like u dont care about power or graphics but then when you finally get HD 6 years after you should have been had it you guys start praising the power. lol so sad
lol you will be eating large portions of humble pie when sony come out with ps4 and completely rip off nintendos concept. you will be forced to eat even more humble pie when you grow up and realise next gen does not have to be defined by how many polygons are on a screen with x number of filters. its about the experience. but if you want to get technical about it, wiiu humiliates ps3 on the spec sheet. so, hope that clears that up.
lol, Yummy PIE! funny thing is Madam. the wii-u destroys ps3 spec wise.....yet doesnt show it. and since when did next gen now be considered about specs? its ALWAYS for the passed 25+ years been a Spec boost. just because nintendo failed to make a boost means that the rules change????? Naaaaah, be seriously girly
At least it doesn't look like a huge bread bin anymore.
now it looks like a toasted sandwich maker
People realize this is more then trying to compete with Nintendo right? This lowers Sony's production costs in materials, thus giving them a larger profit margin. And they are getting this out before the holiday season. Seems like a smart move to me.
Hey Captain obvious, cant compete with the Wii U huh, good thing it wasn't made for that reason.. Now to the real subject in comparison to the Wii, the Wii U will be a major flop... In other stories California is still burning.
The wii u is just a slight bit powerful than the ps3 & Xbox 360 when the ps4 & the next box is released then we'll see which machine is more powerful & better.
My vita can combat & defeat wii u.. Sales aint there but the software & features beat it by far
As it should. The Vita is a dedicated handheld device, the Wii u gamepad is only a controller. There isn't much comparison there besides they have buttons and a screen. Its obvious the Vita can do more than a controller can on its own, shoot the 3DS can do more than a controller as well. The question is can the Vita act as a standalone controller efficiently for asymmetric gameplay with the PS3. And I think it can however I think the Wii u will be a better value because your getting all that out the box.
I think the sales aren't there because the software & features are lacking. Hopefully things will change soon... my Vita could use more love.
power wise, wii u has it by about 2x, yet theres no software that proves it now or anytime soon.. PS3 has the advantage of a huge software lineup & guaranteed FULL 3rd party support.. No hoping & wishing for multiplat games there, plus trophies, plus online game chatting, plus blu ray, plus established network, etc