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Submitted by edsmith1990 1074d ago | opinion piece

How The Kinect Killed Immersion

In a new weekly blog for IBTimes UK, Ed Smith looks at how the Xbox Kinect is spoiling immersive games. (Arcade, Casual games, Culture, Dev, Fable: The Journey, Industry, Kinect, Next-Gen, Tech, Xbox 360)

JAM_brz  +   1074d ago
Kinect became my dust collector. Unfortunately.
EVILDEAD360  +   1074d ago
Kinect didnt come CLOSE to killing immersion ...the opposite is true
This won't hold true for EVERY Kinect experience, but immersion is exactly what Kinect brought to motion controls.

Of the 3 it's the most immersive system there is..

He uses Kinect sports in the pic, but thats a PERFECT example. It's not just me, it's everyone I've witnessed play the game.

The bowling game alone is the most immersive bowling out there.

Before Kinect we were pushing 'a' or 'x' button rapidly to run with a charater. With Track and field you actually run.

Your Fitness Evolved is the most immersive fitness game there is. It actually puts you in the game. Play the block game alone and you will see how immersive it is.

But the sequel literally has you running down Times Square in NYC or major cities around the world.

Watch kids play Kinectimals and you will see that it's the most immersive kid game right now..and that was a launch game.

Same goes with Dance Central..playing without a controller in those experiences is far more immersive than with.

Even IOS games like 'Fruit Ninja' where you use your full body instead of your finger.

Again, it won't work on every occasion, but to pretend it killed immersion is FAR from trhe truth.

Evil
Lvl_up_gamer  +   1074d ago
I don't understand why you have so many disagrees. You are absolutely right. How can you be "more" immersed in a game sitting on a couch pressing buttons then actually up off the couch physically jumping, ducking and running.

Steal Battalion: Heavy Armor had me moving my arms around inside a tank to pull down the scope, change ammo type, change gears and interact with my team mates by shaking their hands and catching apples.

Those that disagreed with you I don't think understand the term being "immersed".

I guess people will just hate on Kinect even when their argument makes no logical sense at all.
JAM_brz  +   1074d ago
The point its that you don´t have a immersion because the controls never respond like they should.

The idea was great, but except from Dance Central, the Kinect take too long to recognize our moves and not always do that correctly. Worth a try? Maybe for the inovation and curiosity. Just for that.
EVILDEAD360  +   1074d ago
'The point its that you don´t have a immersion because the controls never respond like they should'

Speak for youself.It's laughable pretending Kinect 'never' respond to controls when I own one and KNOW nothing on the market comes CLOSE to responding to what your body in game like Kinect does.

I've had over a dozen parties at my place where Adults AND Kids play for fun and competitively and that the response of Kinect to their actions os what amazes them the most.

Whats even funnier is Kinect is so easy to calibrate down to the person playing and the size of the envronment, even if you did have issues with controls.

People pretended that Kinect had horrible controls prior to launch and when it got in the hands of consumes word of mouth at what it actually does with games is why it's a success.

If the detractors claims that Kinect never has responsive controls were accurate at all, then Kinect would have flopped even bigger that Tony Hawk Ride which the word of mouth WAS accurate.

You saying saying Dane Central is the only game that recognizes moves clearly shows your ignorance of the games on Kinect. You don't actually control an avatar or anyone in Dance Central. It's literally the Guitar Hero of Dance Games. But games like Kinect Sports which require action work amazingly well, with the second game even recognizing your fingers.

Yup, there are bad games for Kinect, just as there are bad games for EVERY single system whether that have motion controls or not.

So once again to the point of th article, Kinect doesnt even come close to killing immersion.

Evil
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JAM_brz  +   1074d ago
So I´m ignorant now? Very good make a discussion with you. Man, if you don´t agree with my opinion, ok! You have the right to do that. But don´t insult someone just because it don´t have the same opinion as you.

I think Kinect it´s bad, I THINK. Like Joy Ride, where you can just let go the car ride and it do the track all alone. I expect more of Kinect, some hardcore games, more interaction. Not just customize weapons in Tom Clancy´s, not just say "nitro" in Most Wanted, I already have a Headset to do that If I wanted.

Kinect is for kids. But wasn´t that Microsoft said before launch the device. Microsft said that "Kinect will aim for all ages".

For me, was waste of money.

But of course, the top line of the article was too strong. But Kinect wasn´t even close from what I expected.

PS: and where Kinect Sports 2 recognize fingers? Did I miss that? Until now, I thought Kinect hadn´t the capability of do that.
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EVILDEAD360  +   1074d ago
'So I´m ignorant now? Very good make a discussion with you. Man, if you don´t agree with my opinion, ok! You have the right to do that. But don´t insult someone just because it don´t have the same opinion as you'

LOL @ you pretending I'm insulting you.I said you showed your ignorance of Kinect games.

Definition of ignorant

'Lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular: "ignorant of astronomy".'

You lack awareness of Kinect games as proven by your statement, and even afterward you ask 'PS: and where Kinect Sports 2 recognize fingers? Did I miss that? Until now, I thought Kinect hadn´t the capability of do that.'

Who cares if you hate Kinect, you can throw it in the garbage. that is your opinion of it.

I gave my opinion on the topic, you are now changing it by claiming that Kinect is only a device for kids when even you say Kinect is a device for all ages.

But again do to ignorance of the games you use Joyride 'a launch game clearly aimed at kids', But you can use Kinect in Forza 4 as well.

Then you use a Ghost Recon and the voice capabilities of Need for Speed to make your point?

None of those are even full-on Kinect games.

Maybe in your opinion Kinect isnt 'aimed' at all ages. There is a huge difference between Kinectimals and Dance Central which is played in some 21 & over dance clubs.

Again I made my point on the subject..nuff said

Evil
deletingthis34675334  +   1074d ago
Which is why I didn't buy one...
FaSCoRP  +   1074d ago
As any other stuff, it depends mostly with the lazyness of the developers, or not. Some games are even a pain to control in the menu itself (Decca Sports), some really work (as mentioned here) but usual think about not precision, just a bit of fun without too much expectations. When you are playing with Kinect you already know that it won't be a 1:1 experience
3-4-5  +   1074d ago
They are doing it all wrong.

You can't be immersed in a game when you are staring at a screen. It automatically takes you out of it because you can see a screen, therefore you don't actually feel like you are there.

You need to actually be in the game to be immersed and we are at least 10 years away from having games that include this, but are actually GOOD.
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SOULJER  +   1074d ago
I still use my kinect. It works great for a door stopper.Serious,no joke.
Npugz7  +   1073d ago
My first choice of console is the xbox and I'm gonna have to say that kinect is crap and I hope that's not microsofts major focus with the 720.
hellvaguy  +   1073d ago
Just because xbox is your console of choice is the xbox, doesnt make you the spokes person for opinions regarding motion controls.

Dont really understand, why people dont grasp the concept that companies dont have to big specialized into one area such as FPS games. It really is ok to have some diversity such as family games, motion controls, online, etc. One doesnt hurt the other as much as some "doom and gloom" gamers claim they do.

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