IGN: As the first guys to get our hands on the new PlayStation 3 Super Slim, we naturally decided to unbox it so you guys can see what you're getting.
WTF is up on the cable? How is Sony not giving HDMI with this unit? And the top loading aspect would be problematic in my current setup, wish they could have kept the front loading bay but oh well. The size does make it attractive for sure...but I think my slim will keep its spot.
It looks good but i'm keeping my slim as well. Not sure what the point of a 3rd whole new redesign is? I think the biggest factor was trying to come out with a sub-$200 system and from what i read the 12GB flash drive system is still over $200 and only available in Europe. Why only there? It's almost as though they knew the Wii U was coming so they decided to come out with a new model and have a line-up of games to counter it such as LBP Kart Racing, Playstation Battle Royal, and a new Ratchet and Clank game. Plus these; http://www.arabicgamers.com...
...it looks cheap and 'plastic'. Absolutely HATE the top-loader instead of the cool 'loading bay', especially when you look at the speed at which it shoots open when it's lying down. That won't last long. HDMI should be standard by now, I think everyone can agree on that. Seriously NOT happy with this, considering I'll have to buy one of them in December when I move to Hong Kong :( The 'Phat' is still the best design. So slick and sexy. Especially the white model.
@ Yi-Long Totally agree. My launch Phat has had no issues and it fits perfectly in my set up. I see no reason to "downgrade" to this model even though I do like the ultra slim appeal. I would have thought this would have been cheaper then the slim....not too often a company releases a downgraded system with removed features and still charges the same price as their current model...
Take a look at the "ethernet cable" at about 39 seconds in. Is it an HDMI or a USB? It's sure as $h!t not an ethernet cable. The guy next to him looks like he's going to burst out laughing. Great stuff IGN. It's good to see somethings don't change even when reality shows otherwise.
Man, those shop'd pics really make the console looks better than what it actually is, White one looks nice though. The problem here is not the shape of the console, it's the Fact that is more expensive than the current Slim PS3, for real WTH!?
The main benifit of this purchase would be Power savings. no one mentioned that.
@LostDjinn You're right, that is not an ethernet cable. Looks more like the standard USB charger that comes for the DualShock controller, unless Sony is getting rid of USB cords to charge our controllers with... that is definitely not a ethernet cable.
agreed. It's a usb. I would doubt sony perfected recharging by simply setting the controller on the top of the unit. I wouldnt put it past them though, that could be a feature for the ps4. lol As for the lack of hdmi cable. Yeah they arent expensive but they arent standard either. We know pretty much 98% of consumer TV's have RCA. But 98% of consumers dont have HDTV.
Well im quite mad.I wanted either a price drop or backward compatibility (or both) and we get neither... Well more than likely they will drop the price holiday seasons. I do like the new design tho.
I am assuming for profit. What does lighter shipping weight and smaller dimensions mean for companies and charge the almost the same as when the items were bigger and heavier?
Its funny that people keep asking a question that is so obvious to answer. "Why is the a smaller PS3 still the same price?" Sony wants to make profit from their hardware, and with the redesign they are using less and cheaper materials. They are also using less packaging with smaller boxes and such. If you look at how well the PS3 is selling every month, they obviously don't see the need to drop the price quite yet, and I don't blame them. The PS3 is currently the top selling home console, and has been the top selling console for the last 3 years, and I don't see why that would change in the near future. WiiU might sell well for the first 4 months, but once the rumors of the XBOX 720 and the PS4 start swirling around, the WiiU craze will be long gone.
What the hell with the tray, even the ps1 tray was better built into the system...
yeah im happy with my current slim, the design looks so cheep, im not sure what sony were thinking but they had a great design with the current slim that still managed to have great features like the front loading disc drive, this new version is not attractive in any way. and bringing back the old groove design from the ps2 days looks dated and ugly.
I'm guessing that their reasoning behind using very cheaply made parts, yet still keeping the exact same price as the previous PS3 Slim, is because they lost so much money on the PS3 and are trying to regain some of it back with a higher profit margin. That's the only logical thing I can think of as their reasoning behind the PS3 Super Slim.
@ Auto Current slim uses 200W. Super slim uses 190W. So there are some power consumption savings and less heat generated but they aren't significant.
Yeah I don't see the point here. Yeah fair enough it helps Sony make more profits but for us gamers, it doesn't really add anything like the 360 Slim did. Anyway, its not that big a deal. I don't really mind the looks that much but I've got a working PS3 so a redesign doesn't really benefit me.
Agree on the cable bit. Although I can get a "gold" plated HDMI 1.4 cable at my local Dollarama for $2, that argument just warrants the question: "If its so cheap, why can't they include one?". edit: @GamerElite hence the "" ;)
a "gold" plated HDMI 1.4 cable at my local Dollarama for $2. I doubt it's actually gold plated. Just a cheap knock off.
@ GamerElite, Exactly!!! But if you look at this version of the PS3 you'll see that Sony tried to cut as much cost on manufacturing it as possible. Just look at how ugly it is and that top tray design. I feel like we are back in the 90's when I look at this system. So the whole point was to save as much money on each unit as possible for Sony and this is the result.
@SandwichHammock, Probably because HDMI is not standard yet. Many people still use RCA cables and have non HD tvs, especially kids rooms where alot of these will end up. I just upgraded my sons tv from a tube to a flatscreen hdtv this past Christmas myself.
I think I know why they can't include one even though they're cheap. Companies like to make it seem HDMI is expensive and the more expensive, the better. Including one without raising the price would question the true price of an HDMI. And then Monster would get mad with their 10x overpriced cables. if you thought this was tl;dr They want you to buy one so they don't dispute the true price of an HDMI.
@DarkTower805 It is standard. By definition. Every TV on the market has HDMI support, therefore it is standard.
The reason Sony doesn't include an HDMI cable. Is because they figure, there's a good chance you'll walk out with a nice shiny Sony branded HDMI cable. The profit margins on cables, are probably the highest in the electronic industry.
I have no idea way they do not ship with a HDMI. You would think it was a standard cable. I also find ugly. I am also surprised there is no price cut for it. I do like the disk loader edit: like have smaller memory and cut the price. Possibly bundle some with a vita to promote cross play
At least you'll get more memory. That my make up for the price. I also agree with the disc loader I think it's pretty neat. I hope US gets a white one.
To make the console smaller and cheaper they've obviously had to sacrifice a couple of things. Mainly the cosmetics. It really doesn't look as nice as the last slim console and it's a little bit louder apparently. But for £215 and a 500GB hard drive I can't see new PS3 owners complaining. But I'm happy to stick with my current slim model for the time being. And surely now retailers will drop the price of the older slims to make way for the new ones? Especially in time for Christmas. It is a bit odd that Sony aren't supplying HDMI cables, but you can pick them up for a £5 these days.
some people may not have HDtv....so they are thinking well tube tv and flat screens are able to use this cord and therefore sell the system with the cord....some parents may not no nothing about the cord differences and buy the ps3 for their kids and turns out they cant play it because they still have a tube tv....i do believe that whenever ps4 comes out they might come with the hdmi cord...but it really isnt a big deal if it doesnt come with one...if they are so cheap why not just go buy you one yourself besides complaining about it
Who's complaining? I just said it was an odd decision. Like I said, they can be picked up for next to nothing these days.
they may be sacrificing a little bit more. My friend has a SLIM and a FAT and he has told me certain games (happens more with earlier games) would lag on the slim and be fine on the fat. so it could be the way the inner workings are handled as well.
If you actually appreciate decent audio and have a headphone amp, most of those little devices need an RCA output plugged into them to come out straight from the PS3. In fact, there's an audio setup exactly for that. So if you ask "WTF is up on the cable", they're a requirement for those who have decent headphones (or any simiarly not-so-crappy audio output). Which means they're not completly useless. That said, is it really that hard to buy a $5 HDMI cable the moment you get your PS3? Just saying.
they have an optical out for better quality. Also people with decent sound systems will have a reciever and then you can do optical or HDMI which give you a better option then the standard Left and Right of a simple RCA. I think they give the RCA jack because most kids get their parents old TVs that aren't HD.
Some places in europe we get xmas presents on the evening of the 24, so imagine some kid gets this ps3 and find "oh dear theres no hdmi cable". Kid will be crying all night. And the next 2 days since the shops are closed........
@ andibandit I know your trollin, but every HDTV comes with RCA inputs. 2012 No HDMI cables lying around
that looks really ugly with them sudden grooves. top loader potentially more easier for it to get damaged. Sony dropped the ball this gen with console designs orginal ps3 was nice glossy but way to big and fat. slim ps3 looks ok but nothing amazing just bog standard design. ill be fine with mine. super slim cheap plastic ugly looking console. sony is last place in terms of design of consoles orginal xbox 360 white black look better then all three. Best looking console and design in xbox 360 s that just looks amazing and sleek. Then goes to nintendo wii the blue light looks great. too bad this this look somthing from the 80s and 90s. compare the xbox 360 s pics modern design looks amazing! even the orginal xbox 360
I agree, Microsoft changed things for the better when they introduced the Xbox 360S. I guess Sony had to do what they had to do to make it cheaper. The design is ugly, so I'd have it behind a curtain when playing games or something. Lmao.
I like the grooves but I'm skeptical of the longevity of that sliding door. I wonder how long before the springs break and you need to slide it over manually. The upside of the top loader though is that if it ever dies you'll never have a disc stuck inside and you can more easily clean the laser, should you ever need to.
I prefer the the orginal model of the 360. I love my 2009 elite model :) Not gonna lie though, i like the slim a hell of a lot better than this super slim.
@kneon the laser maybe easier to clean but also 100% more likely to get a fingerprint on it compared to old slot. Also i wonder if the disk will spin up with the door open
I agree with pretty much everything you said, minus the setup thing, because I probably don't have the same setup as you, lol. I think I'll just buy the current Slim to replace my dead fatty. Sony has sacrificed too much to make this cheaper, imo, so rather than downgrade, I'll bite the bullet, reformat my drive (didn't back it up or take the precautions I should have) and throw my 700 gig into a brand new Slim V.1. It's time to get Ready for the Last of Us and Beyond: Two Souls. That's my main reason for buying a Slim V.1
I had a fat ps3 Yrod due to the front loading motor breaking so I'm all for less moving parts.
if you do not own a ps3 by now you are probably an every once in a while casual gamer if you're considering this latest version. And considering how majority of those looking into this ps3 are of that type they probably aren't up to date with TVs. Meaning including an hdmi cable would be pointless because most of those owners probably don't have an hdmi setup.
Very disappointing and its not even cheaper
I bet they do a price drop soon for the holiday season, they have to compete with Wii U.
Who cares? HDMI cables are cheap to purchase now. Not a big deal.
Then it begs the questions: why not include it to begin with if its so cheap??? PS: it $$$ that SONY is saving but its pretty upsetting to get an HD console and not have it right out of the box.
Sony has never given hdmi with new consoles, what if you dont have and hdtv? It will work with all types of tv's if you include the regular av cables. You would be alienating some of your customers if you only included an hdmi cable. Furthermore the whole point of the superslim model is cost cutting to provide playstations to the consumer at a lower buy in cost. Why would they throw in expensive cables if they are trying to reduce costs? Think before you talk, its less embarassing. I realize at this point it is only saving them money on overhead to produce these as they are selling them for the same as the original slim, but im betting they have a price cut in like a month or so for the holidays. Bet they would rather see PS3 slims under christmas trees than WiiU's.
Yeah but... they didn't lower the price for consumers. And unless you are buying some top of the line HDMI cables...they are pretty dirt cheap these days.
Its a blu ray hd console.. I remember the days that that was all sony would talk about. What if you do have a hd tv? Sure it will work with the cables but your not exactly playing in hd or watching a movie in all its glory are you!? Did i miss something? How much is the super slim? Is it cheaper for the consumer or sony?
also their AV port is proprietary, HDMI cables are universal so that makes them way cheaper to make/buy because they are good for every new piece of AV equipment and they will sell.
If you don't have a HDMI cable in your house by now then something must be wrong with you. The main reason is probably cost. I'm worried about dust getting on the laser and disks getting scratched with that front loading bay.
This is not for people who already have one.
@Dlacy13g how is it problematic with your currnt set up?.. How much of a tight space is your ps3 in?..(you really shouldn't have game consoles tight at all) and despite thise being a top loader it slides left rather than flipping up
Its currently in a space in my entertainment center that has about 4 inches top clearance. Its got plenty of side ventilation just not much top space. It just wouldnt be ideal for me. Sure it could work but front loading would be much more practical.
Surprisingly, not everyone has an HDMI TV yet. The AV cable is a standard. It probably costs next to nothing to make.
I love my PS3, but DAMN how many times are they going to redesign this thing? What makes SLIMMER better? It's going to go the same place it would've gone even if it was a little bigger. Where are you going to put it in between 2 books?
And they missed weather or not the HDD is accessible/easy to switch out. If the 12GB allows for one.
I thought I read the 12gb will have a proprietary hdd add on that is available the day the 12gb model releases. This redesign, while I understand will increase Sony profits, is ugly as hell to me. Visually it's a step backwards imo, especially with no auto feeding disc drive. I'll be rocking my 160 gb slim until next gen.
I thought this one looks much more better than the first slim. I mean, this is just ugly as hell man... http://www.fixittechsuite.c...
Honestly who cares what it looks like if it does what its supposed to. the only things on my entertainment center is a tv a ps3 and my cable box. And not once has someone come in and said "Wow you got a nice looking playstation there, not one of those ugly slim models." When I'm playing my video games I try not to focus on how my playstation looks so i dont really see the point.
from ps blog: "owners of the 12GB model will be able to connect a 2.5 inch SATA internal hard drive with use of an official Mounting Bracket, or opt for purchase of an official PlayStation 250GB internal HDD."
I'm not sure about that ridging or the flimsiness. I'm on the fence about the design, but smaller is always better (well that's what I like to tell myself anyway)
That is NOT what she said.
Everything was fine until I bought her the MOVE. I tried to explain relativity to her but she just couldn't understand.
I hope ps4 is this small at launch. Everything that comes out these days seem to be slim.
Small at launch usually means it's going to be expensive or have outdated hardware.
And run hotter. If you are going to put powerful hardware in there then in the first gen the case will always be bigger if for no other reason than power and cooling. Personally I'd prefer if they just make it look like your typical stackable AV equipment. I don't need to it look like a game console, it's just going to sit amongst all the other home theater bits.
I myself like the design and prefer the slider to a flip top.
Yeah the sliding was pretty cool.Kinda liked it actually.I was expecting a flip top!