Submitted by Rearden 899d ago | article

And the award for the dumbest anti Wii U statement goes to…

Idiot columnist says gamers shouldn't pre-order the WiiU because its games cost $60... (Industry, Nintendo, Wii U)

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remanutd55  +   899d ago
well hopefully that doesnt mean ps4 games will cost $69.99 or $79.99, thats gonna be too much.
XB1_PS4  +   899d ago
I can't see the games going up to $79.99. That's way too much. Just think of that price mark as a coffin for consoles. I don't think half as many people would pay $80, as they would $60. I mean, I would only be able to buy like one damn game every month. That sucks.
LOGICWINS  +   899d ago
ONLY one game a month? You say that like it's a bad thing. Stats show that most console gamers only buy three games at launch per year.

COD, Madden, and some other shooter.
XB1_PS4  +   899d ago
@LOGICWINS I'm used to buying a couple games a month sometimes, and I may be in the upper end of the purchase amounts. Lol, but I wouldn't spend $160 - $240 a month on games.
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LOGICWINS  +   899d ago
Yeah, I don't see how the industry would justify a $70-$80 standard for PS4/720 games (Sony especially, considering how value conscious they are), unless gamers were guaranteed every future piece of DLC that would be released for the game.
Reverent  +   899d ago
sofresh, I'm disagreeing with you because you're richer than me, and I only get like 2-3 new games a year. So go away mean rich man.

Kidding (didn't really give you a disagree lol) but still... Crazy rich people with their crazy cars and their crazy giant house cats and what not...
ApolloTheBoss  +   899d ago
Can I have your job?
Gaming101  +   899d ago
He's not rich, he just has different priorities than you ^^^

That being, play videogames day in and day out, and spend all your money on them.
neogeo  +   899d ago
I agree with one him a little bit. I hate paying $60 for games. I never got used to it not ever!

If you remember the only reason why games where $50 back in the 80"s and 90"s was because you got to play "arcade" games at home and did not need to use quarters. The price made sense because people like me dropped over $200 on arcades like street fighter.

Today the reason for the high price is TEH games cost billions to make!!, but some big budget games suck are end nearly as fast as a movie. Would you pay $60 to watch a movie? Now games like Fallout and zelda are well worth the money because the massive amount of greatness is worth it. I'm talking about junk like Spider man. GTFO or charge $15
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XB1_PS4  +   899d ago
@Gaming101 Haha you're right. All I do is make music for rappers.. Lol, and then with the royalty checks I spend it on games. I'm not RICH, but I get by. :)
specialguest  +   898d ago
$79.99 for a game could happen again
If you remember gaming during the 90s, there were games that cost up to $80, and people bought them anyway. Here are a few expensive games from the 90s: http://www.1up.com/news/90s...

Look at SF2's price. With today's inflation added, paying $74.99 back in the 90s was like paying $121 today. The cost of developing a game in the 90s are no where near today's cost, yet these developers/publishers got away with it anyway.
ZeekQuattro  +   898d ago
There was a time I couldn't see a home console being over $400. Sony said otherwise. Games are no different. Heck if you buy DLC for certain games and add up the cost you are already paying over $79.99
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zeeshan  +   898d ago
I agree with NeoGeo 100%! Well said!
Knushwood Butt  +   898d ago
I think the Vita has more than one game released per month, but it has no games...
azshorty2003  +   898d ago
I know I would be waiting till prices dropped to buy a game as oppose to right away.
sourav93  +   898d ago
I buy 1 game a month...sometimes even once every 2 months...
solidt12  +   898d ago
At that price I would only buy 4 full price games a year and wait for deals on all the others.
gaffyh  +   898d ago
@WiiUDaily - It's not cool calling out a rival games journalist, makes you look unprofessional. He's entitled to his opinion, so it's not good to defame him, just because you don't agree. You could have gone about this is a better way, rather than calling him out directly and calling him an idiot.
extermin8or  +   898d ago
you say that by the iphone 5 32gb and 64gb have a starting price of £66 a month here in the uk so I've no idea what they have in the usa but it must be similar- and £46 for the 16gb which I reckon would easilly be filled up so a video game for 80 quid suddenly doesn't sound so unreasonable; as long as the increase in quality/content is worth the extra money...
Knight_Crawler  +   898d ago
Yeah but what if developers took the time to pack each game with insane amonut of content for free.

Something like Halo but with triple the content.

That would justify the $79.99.
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Bobertt  +   898d ago
Nes games cost $45-$70 depending on the title and people bought it back then. The games now are way better so im sure people will buy it. They will just be pickier on which games they buy or buy used games more.
Dac2u  +   898d ago
I remember buying Double Dragon 2 with my birthday money and it ended up costing me $74 after tax. Not that I want to spend that type of money again, but that's what some games cost back then and people paid it.
steve30x  +   898d ago
People couldnt believe it when the price of PS3 and Xbox 360 games were €60+ when the concoles came came out first after the PS2 and Xbox games were around €40 each. I know I will get disagrees but I can see the next Xbox and PS4 games being more expensive because they will be more expensive to develop.
MmaFan-Qc  +   898d ago
i already pay my 360/ps3/pc games 70$(well, its 59$ but with the taxes it end up being 69$)

anyway i wont get the wiiu until 6-7months after the release, the wii had barely a couples games even after 6 years. ....so i will let nintendo pull their head out of their own ass for a while and see if it worth it after a couples months.
darthv72  +   898d ago
nobody ever said this was a cheap hobby.
omi25p  +   898d ago
Well last year i bought

Saints Row the Third: £40 (XBOX 360)
Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim: £40 (XBOX 360)
Uncharted 3: Drakes Deception: £40 (PS3)
Battlefield 3: £40 (XBOX 360)
Batman: Arkham City Collectors: £65(XBOX 360)
Rage: £40 (XBOX 360)
Gears of War 3 Epic Edition: £100 (XBOX 360)
L.A Noire: £40 (XBOX 360)
Portal 2: £40 (XBOX 360)
Mortal Kombat: £40 (XBOX 360)
Dead Space 2: £40 (XBOX 360)
Assassins Creed: Revelations: £40 (XBOX 360)
BulletStorm : £50 (XBOX 360)
Dragon Age 2: £40 (XBOX 360)
F3AR: £40 (XBOX 360)
Crysis 2: £40 (XBOX 360)
Killzone 3: £40 (PS3)
Infamous 2 : £40 (PS3)
Dues Ex: Human Revolution: £40 (XBOX 360)
Dead Island: £40 (XBOX 360)
Fifa 12: £40 (XBOX 360)
Forza 4: £40 (XBOX 360)
Halo Combat Evolved Anniversary: £35 (XBOX 360)

So i spent £1010 On Retail releases ALONE + Around £200 worth of downloadable Content AND a 250gb Xbox 360s which i think was £245

So overall i spent £1455 just on entertainment.
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THESONYPS3  +   898d ago
Games in Australia range from $69-$110. Meaning some months you spend hundreds of dollars worth. Some people love to use the OzGameShop though as it is cheaper.
geddesmond  +   898d ago
Nintendo fans are way too sensitive
steve30x  +   898d ago
Not just nintendo fans. N4G is full of oversensitive fans. To prove my point watch how many disagrees I will get for this comment
steve30x  +   897d ago
LMAO That backfired on me
doogiebear  +   898d ago
Why is this worthy news. Doesn't the "N" in N4G mean news? Millions of idiots give stupid comments. Why is this one so special?
geddesmond  +   898d ago
Lol I just read his article and I agree with him on a lot of things. 95% of the hardcore titles for Wii U are ported versions of games already on PS360 or coming before Wii U launches. Yeah they'll run a bit better and have most of the DLC on disk but we've all seen screens of the Wii U versions and they DON'T look much better.

Then his price point is bang on. Why should these ported games cost the same on Wii U as they did when they launched on PS360. Star Ocean 4 and Bioshock both cost 10 euros cheaper when they launched on PS3 and they looked a bit better than the 360 version too. So why should ported Wii U games be any different?
StraightPath  +   898d ago
I get all games rented from lovefilm for all my platforms. Dnt need to worry bout cost since only £10 per month I save alot and play all games all year.
ALLWRONG  +   898d ago
Why would 720/PS4 games cost more than Wii U games?
PopRocks359  +   899d ago
Wait... so this guy believes an HD console should not be purchased because the games are $10 more expensive?

Where the hell has he been for the past generation exactly?
HammadTheBeast  +   898d ago
I bet this guy pays $150 for the CoD Hardened editions for its state of the art graphics lol.
shackdaddy  +   899d ago
Oh-ho-ho Michael Pachter has some competition :P
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LOGICWINS  +   899d ago
Pachter actually makes money for what he spews. All this kid gained was humiliation.
HammadTheBeast  +   898d ago
He supposedly works for CNET and the LA Times, and is hired specifically for making sensationalist Nintendo headlines.
majiebeast  +   899d ago
I think prices of games should be determined by the length,budget and quality of the game. Games like vanquish with 4 hours campaigns should never cost more then 40$ while games like uncharted 2 and Gears 2 deserve to have that 60$ price tag.
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dark-hollow  +   899d ago
That's how it should be but the problem is who determine the value of the game?

some developers put a lot of hardwork on some short titles and others simply are full of themselves and way overvalue their game.
HammadTheBeast  +   898d ago
turgore  +   899d ago
but if gears 2 would be 60 bucks then what would skyrim cost ? 200?
TekoIie  +   899d ago
Gears has MP. It could rival an RPG on time value as can many games with MP could.

Also let's not forget the issues skyrims having : /
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360ICE  +   898d ago
Wouldn't that make good games expensive and bad games cheap? That sucks.
And who would judge quality?
And should really budget be a factor? Doesn't that reward or mitigate wasting money?
And what about online play? What does that count for in terms of length?

These are but a few of the many brain twisters you have to solve, before we scrap supply and demand.
icewater85  +   898d ago
Vanquish is not a 4 hour game and it is worth $60.
Kaneda  +   898d ago
media storage too.. Uncharted is using blu-ray and Gears 2 on DVD. DVD is dirt cheap...
DivineAssault  +   899d ago
I can see AC3 & all the other newer games but what i dont see is how nintendo land or mario bros u justifies a $60 price tag.. LBP on vita has deeper mechanics & btr graphics for $40..
AO1JMM  +   899d ago
Vita is a handheld and handheld games are on average less than console games.
DivineAssault  +   899d ago
maybe but vita games can be up to $50 & handheld games are becoming just as expensive to develop for as consoles.. My point is the effort & creativity is what u pay for.. They couldve charged $40 for mario bros & nintendo land shouldve been free.. I bet it took no longer than a yr n some change to make both
ronin4life  +   899d ago
Several NL games have full "lengthy" campaigns in single and multiplayer. It is a full featured game, though wether it is "$60" worth will have to wait for reviews with deeper detail.

And nsmbU wouldn't be considered unworthy of full price by anyone... if nsmb2 and sm3dl hadn't just come out. That's just a matter if perception and situation...
YoungPlex  +   898d ago
LMAO! "handheld games are becoming just as expensive to develop for as consoles"

1.8 million to make RE Revelations, approximately $60 million for RE:6. If you think that this is anywhere near console prices then go back to school, and stop trying to justify why Sony charges you so much for a handheld title!
extermin8or  +   898d ago
um developing for the ancient 3ds woul be cheaper as its parts arent all that new and all in all just like the original ds plus the 3d aspect..,.
SandWitch  +   898d ago
I have no idea why Nintendo charges 60 bucks for Mario Bros Wii U... It costs 10 million at most. While PS3/X360 games on average costs 20-30 millions to make.
stragomccloud  +   898d ago
One of the 3D Marios, I think $60 is justified. One of the 2D Marios... maybe. Nintendo land? No. Just no. I know it'll provide a lot of gameplay hours, but a $60 game it is not.
YoungPlex  +   898d ago
Seeing as Uncharted: Golden Abyss uses Havok Physics and Havok Animation, helping Sony's Bend Studio reach higher levels of fidelity and interactivity for the PS Vita system and RE:Revelations uses an advanced version of the MT Framework, an exclusive seventh generation game engine built to be used with "all of the Capcom next-generation games" on the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 (and later on the Wii and the Nintendo 3DS); it's easy to think that both of these titles would cost an arm and a leg to develop.

Sadly this isn't the case, as both of these engines were already made and easily optimized to take advantage of both pieces of hardware. Thus making it possible for both titles to be developed in little than under a year, delivering both console level experiences. Development cost for both are a mere fraction of what it would cost in making a console title.

Both titles could've cost $20 at most, but opted to use 4gig cards, which bumped up cost and the msrp. That is why they're expensive, not really due to development cost alone!

"um developing for the ancient 3ds woul be cheaper as its parts arent all that new and all in all just like the original ds plus the 3d aspect..,."

Keep dreaming! Revelations was a magnificent game and did a great job showcasing what is possible on the 3DS! But if you feel that Uncharted cost anymore to develop for, and that it was worth the $49.99 price tag anymore than Revelations $39.99, simply due to development cost, then your highly misinformed...

I love how Sony fans bash Nintendo, knowing damn well that more than half of them own some piece of current Nintendo hardware.
gamernova  +   899d ago
I just can't break the association of Nintendo products and kids. If a gamer could only choose one console (720, 4, U) I doubt anyone in the right mind would pick the wii U.
shackdaddy  +   899d ago
I would pick the wiiu...

Anyone who associates games with maturity isn't really that mature themselves...
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killerhog  +   899d ago
Some people don't want censored games, being told not to curse, and majority of the games kids friendly (easy and casual).
Reverent  +   899d ago
@killerhog, tell that to games like Mario and Zelda. Very kid friendly, but I'd bet my life on it that most fans of them are in their 30's at least. Just goes to show that mature gamers really don't give a crap whether their games have cussing or gore. They just want a Fun* game.
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axisofweevils  +   899d ago

People forget that Nintendo allowed games like House Of The Dead: Overkill on the Wii - even though it was violent, had a disgusting ending (no spoilers here) and had the most swearing in any game ever at the time of release.
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attilayavuzer  +   898d ago
Alright lets be honest here, the reason most Zelda fans are in their 30s isn't because they're just "fun" games. It's all a matter of reliving childhood nostalgia. If Skyward Sword was a new IP from last year it'd have a different demographic of players.

Not a dig on the series at all though, great games...just...I mean, come on...we're not fooling anybody here
stragomccloud  +   898d ago
Or almost in their 30's. ;)

By the way. regarding Zelda games being kid friendly, I think that only really applies to content, because I've tried to get kids to play Zelda games, and they often find them too difficult.
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gamernova  +   897d ago
Not maturity I am talking about because I still enjoy the classic Donkey Kong games as well as Mario games. I am simply speaking about an association to prevalence in a certain age group.
ShaunCameron  +   899d ago
I would pick the WiiU over both just like I picked the Wii over both the360 and PS3.

<I just can't break the association of Nintendo products and kids.>

Just like I can't break the association of Sony/Microsoft consoles and insecure "gamers".
jessupj  +   898d ago
I would just die if I missed out on Bioshock, or RDR, of GTA4/5.... I could go on.

There's only a handful of decent games on the wii I'm missing.

I just can't comprehend what you said really.
NeoTribe  +   898d ago
Nothin wrong with buying a wii and all but your missing out on sooooo many good games and exclusives. Like dude above me said, wii only has so many good games. Zelda being there powerhouse.
stragomccloud  +   898d ago
You're absolutely right.
However, for Wii only owners there are a lot of games that players have played, that they too could "just die."

It's true that a Wii only owner would miss out on a lot of multi plats, and many will argue against this slews of PS3 exclusives(the reason I also own PS3), but when it comes to exclusives, Nintendo really has most. I could name a lot, but I hate when people do that, so I'll only name Red Steel 2, and Fragile Dreams. Amazing games. No matter what system one has, there are a lot of good games. However with the Wii, I think someone has access to an extremely diverse library. In fact I almost have as many games as my PS3/360 games combined.
MasterCratosKong66  +   897d ago
I don`t know about that. I mean I love my titles with PS and Xbox but the thought of missing out on a New Super Smash (even though not announced we know it`s coming) with the possibility of good online multiplayer makes me die a little on the inside. But I guess it is up to you to decide if I am in my right mind or not...
ShaunCameron  +   899d ago
He's probably not old enough to remember the 8 and 16-bit eras when video games costed anywhere between $50 and $75. That would be $62.50 in average price.

Boycott the WiiU because its games will cost $60? LOL. I wonder if he'll be saying the same thing when games for the next Sony/Microsoft console might cost him $70-80.
FinalomegaS  +   899d ago
I was going to bring that up.

Back then the canadian currency vs usd was bad and including taxes. I remember paying 105$ cnd for mega man 3 up here.

It could be worst he just doesnt remember the dark times.
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FlairSomewhere  +   899d ago
Chrono Trigger.
Case and point.
It's still hella expensive.

Also, anyone tried beating Super Ghouls 'N Ghosts, lately?
That game is a monster.
monkey nuts  +   898d ago
I still fire up super ghosts and goblins (uk) from time to time. The ice castle is where I die, its always a blast getting there lol. Top game though, timeless quality to it. Gold armour, magic shield and laser daggers for the win.
Phoenix76  +   898d ago
Hell!!! i remeber those days :D like buying Desert Strike for my Mega Drive at £40(uk) dont think they are asking to much really. This guy is a Plank!
d3nworth1  +   899d ago
If your talking about a port of 2 year old games then maybe they should be cheaper but not if theyre ports of recent games plus the extra content then no the price is justified. We have been paying $60 for games for 7 years why complain now?
chrisarsenalsavart  +   899d ago
You can,t seriously ask people to boycott a product because of its price.
killerhog  +   899d ago
Thats what you get for selling a kids friendly console and games for 39.99 and now 59.99. Good luck getting casuals to drop dough on those games. Casuals barely bought anything outside fitness for 39.99. My sister rather of bought Xbox 360 games to play on her bf console then buy wii games. Now they want 59.99 lol good luck is all I have to say.
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FlairSomewhere  +   899d ago
Do you not go shopping much ?
Ninty games have been sitting high and mighty at $49.99, lest they be on clearance for $29.98 or $29.99.

Nintendo does not set the pricing for any 3rd party titles.
Third parties can charger whatever they wish. Especially with the eShop.
Do you see Microsoft NOT charging $59.99 for Halo 4, a flagship series?
Oh, and (insert monthly fee for online play).
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Hicken  +   899d ago
Yeah, you can. Whether or not people will follow you, on the other hand, is a different matter entirely.
HeavenlySnipes  +   899d ago
This was definitely newsworthy.

10/10 article will read again.

FredEffinChopin  +   898d ago
Seriously, I guess every instance of a random moron saying something stupid qualifies as news now. I used to roll my eyes when people cared about random celebrities running their mouths, but I guess it doesn't even take any kind of public interest in your name for people to care about you saying something dumb now.

Time to get to work and scour those message boards for more hard-hitting news. Not to mention youtube.
And the award for the dumbest reply to this article goes to...Don'tbeLame for:

"Sure WiiU is not considered to be a hardcore gaming device like the ps3/360, then Nintendo can stop being such posers showing PS3/360 ports of hardcore titles. Wii was a tremendous success thanks to the price and Nintendo was able to penetrate the back then niche casual gaming audience. WiiU at 299$ is definitely priced well over other hardcore games devices, and it doesn’t make sense honestly. Let alone the price of games for the WiiU, but the machine itself is priced beyond the current gen system’s prices. And please don’t you dare call it a true next gen system, albeit it belongs to the 8th gen, but boy it sure doesn’t give the right to call it a true next gen console when it comes to immersion and innovation!"
nintendojunkie28  +   899d ago
Ok..one of the articles this guy has written is...

"Why Nintendo Should Sell (And Why Sony Should Buy It)"

...that's all I need to know
cyclindk  +   899d ago
It won't happen, but games REALLY need to be priced based on their content, length, development investment as well as the consumer's Desire to Purchase Threshold, or DPT as I have just now coined the term, i.e. there is likely an upper limit to how much the average game is willing to and able to pay that retailers cannot cross with hopes of moving any respectable number of units.

Why should shi@ games cost as much as triple A games?

Oh, and screw the convenience markup for downloadable/digital options as with the PSN. It costs THEM less to sell their products digitally. Why Steam games can be priced so low.
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HalfNerdHalfAmazing  +   899d ago
trollers & trollets you can go on YouTube and say how much you hate Nintendo, you could go on these gaming sites and comment how out dated is the Wii u but what ya need to realize is Nintendo ain't going no where
nintendojunkie28  +   898d ago
Damn skippy!
ZeekQuattro  +   898d ago
Tool bag for sure. lol
MattS  +   898d ago
I'm not sure a publication that writes "shit slinger" in reference to someone is in any position to criticise the quality of another publication.

Why the hell do games journalists get away with completely unethical reporting and opinion writing?
FredEffinChopin  +   898d ago
They all serve each other when they do nonsense like this. A random blogger decided to write an editorial. Another random blogger writes a story about it, and just like that news is fabricated out of thin air. Now we know that people say dumb things.

This just in: The Jets will be playing football this year.
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wlchrbandit  +   898d ago
Not gonna lie, I giggled when the writer of the article used the word "innovation" when describing the Wii U.
DarthJay  +   898d ago
What is more offensive to me is that an article like this exists. 100% unprofessional and embarrassing. I happen to agree that the premise of the person's statement is poor, but is this fanboy site that sensitive that they have to lambaste some random guy for his opinion?

And then it somehow got approved?

Stoppokingme  +   898d ago
Ah the internet, the place where any tool with his two cents worth can become a journo. Most game 'journalists' nowadays are either fanboys, haters, or whack job bloggers, and they draw attention away from the truly decent writers.

I hope the Wii-U does well. People who want a console to fail are malignant pricks, there are guys and girls out there who bust their guts trying to develop things like the Wii-U, and there are people out there who wanna see their work crash and burn.

I'd love to be next to one of these haters while they write yelling "YOUR ARTICLE SUCKS! YOU'RE FULL OF CRAP! NO ONE WANTS TO READ THAT!"

And see if they like it.
monkey nuts  +   898d ago
Some people just want to watch the world burn.
MilkMan  +   898d ago
and who the f@ck is this guy?
Obviously hes got and anti-Nintendo agenda.

Anyway, thanks for making me hate this dude even more than Bobby K.
WiiUalpha  +   898d ago
Companies will always get hate from followers of their rivals. Nintendo is the first the launch their 8th gen machine and it seems to have caught the interest of a lot of gamers. This has fans of other consoles feeling threatened and they need to alsh out in anger and frustration.

Sony and MS will get the same kind of hate when they announce their consoles. Especially when they are shown to not be the powerhouses some fanboys are making them out to be.
PirateThom  +   898d ago
Actually, my annoyance is how for a lot Nintendo fans it's all about power now, even though they were, all of last gen, "power doesn't matter, it's all about fun" even though the Wii U is comparable to devices 5 or 6 years old and being able to run 1080p, 60fps while older consoles can't is not something to be impressed by.

They lost the casual crowd to Microsoft and are now trying to appeal to a hardcore crowd by going for "POWER" and making 1080p a selling point.

Frankly, I think the console is pretty decent, but it's also about 4 years too late.
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stuntman_mike  +   898d ago
I usually buy my games second hand only certain games i buy new.
listenkids  +   898d ago
This article is shit, the original article is shit. Fanboys of all kinds, kindly fuck off, you're giving me cancer.
mamotte  +   898d ago
Wait, so this guy doesnt know that PC games are a little cheaper and look better that their console counterparts? What we'll he do when he discover it?
CShadow  +   898d ago
Making the games for this systems specifics and program 3 control styles may be some work. Unfair to other systems if it was cheaper.
MadMen  +   898d ago
Wii U out of the gate a success, hardcore wise of course, all system are adopted by the hardcore out of the gate, even the ones that end in 3rd place.

Wii U in comparison to the Wii, not a chance in terms of sales.
Robotronfiend  +   898d ago
I'm guessing he never had a Neo Geo.
Instigator  +   898d ago
I didn't know I've been paying 80-100 dollars for discs and cartridges filled with graphics this whole time.
Moerdigan  +   898d ago
why are they so quick to dismiss him?
he has some points.

Nintendo first party games in the longest time were 50 bucks but they tend to be very slow to knock prices down on the first party games. not nearly as soon 3rd party games, some high profile games that drop to half price withing 6 months even.

With WiiU, now they are 60 and may be 60 bucks long after release date. The somewhat fair tradeoff is no longer there for the customer.
Abdou23  +   898d ago
Actually i'm with him 100%. The guy who is criticising him is an idiot nintendo fanboy.
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