GenGAME writes: "In case you thought the initial outrage against the announcement that Bayonetta 2 would be a Wii U exclusive was a fluke, a particularly mean-spirited gamer decided to set up a “boycott” campaign. How cute."
This whole thing is stupid. I'm glad Nintendo is causing some tremors. It means they're looking to be a competitor in the hardcore market this time around and I'm excited.
The question is, if bayonetta 2 was set to release on the next Xbox and or the ps4, would those "fans" have a problem too with shelling hundred of dollars to play the game on a new system?
But then you would have to because then we would be right into next gen, you wouldn't have a choice because all three consoles would be out on the market leaving the old three behind. It would then be an adapt or loose out situation but when they could of took their time and found another punlisher to release it on all three consoles, including the Wii U thats what I'm more p***ed off at...I mean fair enough if Bayonetta was on all three consoles including the Wii and it sold more on the Wii then the PS3/360 but that never happened.
the problem here with them is not shelling out cash to buy a new system the problem is shelling out cash to buy a NEW NINTENDO SYSTEM they got it in their heads that: 1. nintendo stole bayonetta 2 from ps360 2. they bribed platnium games into keeping it exclusive funny thing is that they hate nintendo because their recent consoles tend to not get ENOUGH mature rated content but they also hate nintendo because its GETTING mature rated content
"But then you would have to because then we would be right into next gen, you wouldn't have a choice because all three consoles would be out on the market leaving the old three behind" So let me get this straight, if bayo 2 released on next gen consoles, people "have" to buy them if they want to play the game, and they basically have no choice. so doesn't the same thing apply here? you want bayonetta 2, you "HAVE" to buy a Wii u.
@Carl_Shocker Who cares? Resident Evil was not really huge on Nintendo consoles until Resident Evil 4 on the Gamecube. Sega's Sonic games were briefly exclusive to the Gamecube as well. The point is no one would be complaining even if this was set to release on PS4 and 720 as oppose to PS3 and 360 which is not even a good argument. It's just hypocrisy.
Nintendo is being smart alright, hearing the announcement about Bayonetta 2 being WiiU exclusive almost made me consider buying one, the keyword being almost though. As the only 2 games I really wanna play are Bayonetta 2 and ZombiU. I'll be holding off until some more games pique my interest.
It's Bayonetta...Jesus people calm down. OMG Nintendo has B2! Boycott! I'm a high school herp derper! I'm so cool! I only play on "x" system and all my frineds say this is BS! Get over it. It's a game. Grow up, get a job and support your habit. Douche bags.
must say that i wont buy a new system or set one as a goal until i see the two others and as usual i am buying only one system to save money and focus on it btw ps4 is having a slight advantage due to the ps3's awesomeness i must get my money worth out that system and that can be different for each person but bayonetta 2 isnt something i would buy a system for i will need at least 6 games as big as bayonetta a year to be satisfied plus the system's technical performance and cool features are important too so no multi systems release they lose but i dont think so since nintendo are paying them plus the first part was really terrible on the ps3 it was bad technical wise
Hmmm.... Never bought it; It didn't look that good to me. Was it that good that you have people crying about it? I could see that for Gears or Halo, but not Bayonetta. At any rate, if Nintendo thinks they can do great things for it, then let them and good luck: because if I'm not mistaken, it didn't do so hot on 360, which is why it went to PS3, which is why part 2 got canned in the first place; so if Nintendo can make it work, congrats in advance.
Funny thing is this is Early WiiU exclusive. Just wait until they reveal others someday. haha. I personally have never seen Nintendo reach out to publish any third party title for its system and I am happy that they are finally stepping in and grabbing attention. Bayonetta 2 is only one game, and they need to reach farther and wider to get the attention of other fans. I can see every multiplatform title scaled for the WiiU by fall 2013. What kind of exclusives could exist? There are still many independant titles on the PC and other platforms that could exist on the WiiU.
Except those are systems from the same company of which they are fans of. Don't dance around that. You have to become a Nintendo fan to play Bayonetta 2. And "shockingly", after the Wii generation, people don't want to.
You're completely missing the point. Most "fans" already have every intention of buying a next gen Xbox/PS4, so they'd be "shelling hundreds of dollars" anyway. No serious gamer spends money on a Wii, and so if fans want to play it they have no choice but to buy hardware they'll probably use once and then put down. As nobody in their right mind would do such a thing (the boycott is just to tell Nintendo that they're not fools), fans are not going to be able to play the game, and hence are justifiably angry. I'm not a fan myself, and only ever play on PC, but I can empathise with PS3/X360 players here.
Okay let me get this straight. Originally Bayonetta 2 was canceled.The fans were mad and rightfully so.Im guessing nintendo gave PG the funds and resources to get bayonetta 2 back up and running but at a cost of it being exclusive.I think the fans should be mad,unless they were planning on getting a wII U anyway. I dont think the fans are mad because its on the WII but more so that its only on the WII. Their anger is justified imo. I can imagine if sega canceled Yakuza 5 and Nintendo did this I would be beyond pissed.I would miss out on yakuza 5.Because im not getting a wii for one game. Atleast at that price. Its not Nintendo fault.Its just how things panned out.
they should at least make part 1 for the wiiu, and stop jumping around on consoles to make everyone buy a new console.
People need to stop whining. Competition is a part of life, and Nintendo desperately needs an exclusive to compete with the 360 and PS3 with their enormous install bases. Don't forget the Wii U is starting out with 0 units and will need software to push the hardware. If they were smart they would do a remake of Wii Sports and call it Wii Sports HD or something, casual gamers will eat that up in droves. I'm glad they aren't pairing the game down for PS3 and 360, the game was in development hell and Nintendo rescued it. If the game sells well it will likely end up as an upgraded version on the next Playstation and whatever Msoft is cooking up. So stop whining you crybabies, your old console is a fossil by now and can't handle what the dev team is trying to accomplish, so buy the next Playstation or Xbox or quit your whining.
its stupid alright the main reason bayonetta 2 was cancelled in the first place WAS BECAUSE IT DIDNT GET ENOUGH SUPPORT now they are trying to give it less sales i can already forsee many upcoming reviews get very low user review scores too
Because all Nintendo published content gets low review scores right? Keep trying though, you're close! Lol I'm sure the same thing was said about Capcom when they completely ressurrected the RE franchise on the GC. No one was buying it anymore on PS2, so Capcom took it to a new audience and RE4 was born. Easily one of the greatest games to come from that generation and put newfound interest in an old franchise.
@Ck1x If you actually took the effort to read his comment... he said USERS would rate it low.. not critcs EX: Mass Effect 3, Modern Warfare 3, Diablo 3 Look at the user scores on metacritc... thats what he is talking about
@ Live2Play: I wouldn't worry about it because it's like the whole going back into time to stop something conundrum (seeing that the reason for going back into time will not exist, therefore erasing your reason for going back into time, which causes the problem to happen again): How can they boycott a game on a console they won't buy? They can't without actually BUYING one or the other, which means that they lose.
I guess SEGA wants to be like EA; having a heart-attack every time a brand new IP doesn't sell a billion copies. They probably would have sold a million per system (WiiU, Ps3, Xbox) if they had kept their heads. Sticking it onto a system that is the successor to the ultra-casual Wii (destroyer of success of most "mature" games SEGA put on it) that will have a brand new tiny userbase....not going to improve on sales.
"the main reason bayonetta 2 was cancelled in the first place WAS BECAUSE IT DIDNT GET ENOUGH SUPPORT " WRONG...do people on N4G do any research before they post a comment? By March 31, 2010, Bayonetta sold 1.35 million units worldwide which was one year after release which was not too shabby for a new IP - other games have sold worst and have received sequals. The reason why Boyonetta 2 was almost cancelled is becuase SEGA is not a big studio anymore and they needed to see 4 Boyo sell 4 times what it did in one year. Ninty on the other had can make a profit by just breaking even becuase they are also selling Nintendo Wii U units every time Bayo 2 sells.
I would've been excited too if Nintendo was releasing a next-gen system. But since I already have a PS3, I'll pass...
Indeed.. which will last 1-2 years until the nextbox/PS4 hit the market and make its games look terrible(factually speaking).
@Pockyking If there was a way for me to spam the bubble+ button I would. well said.
Well said. I can agree with you PockyKing. Although, I was a bit disappointed to know I'd have to buy a new console just to play Bayonetta 2, but I'm not going to extremes that they are. That's just asinine. Personally, I'm not looking to pick up a Wii U (for now) unless later they start to have more games that are just must haves for me. By that time I'd get Bayonetta 2 at a lower price and maybe the console itself will have a deal that I like. (Off Topic) Now I don't know about the rest of you, but the moment they show a Pokemon game that's a large-scale RPG (maybe even open-world), online mode, allows us to make decisions to join different groups (Team Rocket, Magma, etc.) for side-missions or some system that lets us be our own gym leader (and even if we win, we could give them badges for all the challengers effort or by their performance) and all that...I'm buying one with no hesitation, but that's just me lol.
people do realize that if it wasn't for nintendo there wouldn't be bayonetta? sega canned it its not the biggest exclusive but if you are planning on getting the wii-u like me than its a game you can play. Its not like Mass effect series missing a game on xbox360 or ps3. Its a good game known for combat so stop hating moving forward i wouldn't be surprised to see ms,nintendo and sony all fund some 3rd party titles if a publisher is having issues funding it
It seems that the pitch forks and fire had to be brought out at some point. Just about every Megaton has resulted in angry fans of competing platforms to take it to the streets to form a rebellion. According to many of my online n4g citizens, Bayonetta has a low fanbase, with barely any units sold. So anything thrown together by emotionally hurt citizens likely wont sport very many freedom fighters for the cause. On the other hand like I said in past articles. The Bayonetta fanbase on competing hardware might cut itself down. But this industry leading hack and slash adventure franchise will find a nice warm loving new home on the Nintendo Wii U entertainment system. Given a second chance to impress a new fanbase that will accept this franchise with open arms. Time will carry on, and the emotional will learn to accept this revival for what it is. Just as the FF13, and Metal Gear Rising Kaos that took place before it. Rated E for Everyone
According to Sega, Bayonetta had 1.35m lifetime sales by the end of FY2011. I wouldn't say that's "barely any units sold," but you're right in saying that the fanbase is hardly large enough for the negative minority to mean anything.
I am not personally saying that is a low number. This is just what I am told by all of the citizens on this ever so friendly site saying that Bayonetta 2 wont make a difference for the Nintendo Wii U entertainment system. 1.35 million is a fine number of units sold in my honest opinion. Especially in a market dominated by a specific genre. I hope it reaches those numbers again under the Nintendo umbrella. Judging by the amount of complaining, and emotional torment I have seen recently. You would think that Bayonetta had a COD like install base of people ready to fight the system. Rated E For Everyone
I think on top of that being a launch title for the system will help spur it's sales. It could find a nice home with Nintendo. Quite honestly I haven't seen articles calling for a Boyonetta sequel for any system, so to come out now all pissed off about being exclusive is pretty silly. The game on the ps360 had a lukewarm reception at best, and it was one of those games that quickly left most gamers minds. If it were something like Heavenly Sword which seems to have a rather vocal sequel calling, then maybe I could see why people would be upset. But if this were the case, and Nintendo were the only company to want to publish said game, is it really Nintendos or the developers fault for going where the investment is.
Just like all other Megaton announcements this one will blow over quickly. I agree with you that next to nobody has even mentioned anything about Bayonetta for a good long time. On this site especially I have heard nothing but negative speak about it, as it is constantly compared to another certain hack and slash available on the market. To hear all of the complaining over a game that "nobody purchased" or "wont change the tides for Nintendo" is foolish. Why be upset over a game that "wont make a difference"? Rated E For Everyone
Yeah that's right, punish what amounts to an act of effort meant to reward gamers. Sure, Nintendo might be taking advantage of the situation, but more to the point they're taking the chance while trying to rebuild themselves up to what they were in the NES/SNES era. Hopefully after learning from most of their mistakes.
How is Nintendo taken advantge of the situation. SEGA did not want anything to do with the game anymore and no one else stepped up to save it so Nintendo saw where 1.5 million gamers who bought the first game would atleast want a chance to play part 2. Sure its not on your system of liking but atleast you have the option to play it than to not play it at all.
Wait, PLAY something the right way, by NOT playing it? What is this I don't even..........
Let me add to that logic: http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Not even Socrates would have been able to make sense of this.
N4G log1c, son. Welcome to the interwebs.
The sad thing is, the boycott still involves actually playing it.
I buying a Wii U and buying this game day 1 but what if P* tried to do a kick starter for this game? I am sure alot of fans would have contributed. Another option was to approach soneone like UBI or Konami instead of a first party publisher. I do not know the full story but if they only went to Ninty becuase the Wii U launch and its going to be huge sales and they did not even approach other 3 party publishers then thats a kick to the fans head.
This is a PRIME example of Blind-Nintendo-Hate. If you hate Nintendo so much that you would try to destroy the company that makes your favorite game- you have to be full of illogical-Hate. This is Fanboyism gone Worst. (I know that when Silicon Knights left Nintendo, most people still supported SK. )
Who cares about this one person's selfish opinion? If you want to play the game that Nintendo revived, play it. If not, don't and let those who will enjoy it to enjoy it. Sheesh.
I find this all o so funny.So many crying little kids...Mommy i need a sippy cup. Face it people the game was dead before nintendo picked it up.Time to move on,think of it as out of pampers into pullups.
I'm surprised so many people don't get this. If Nintendo hadn't picked it up, there would be no Bayonetta 2 at all. So why are people complaining? Sure, B2 might be appearing on a console they don't want. But isn't that better than the game not existing AT ALL?
Yeah because Kickstarter doesn't exist... oh WAIT.....
Except the game was canned, so clearly there was no intention to use Kickstarter to revive it (and why would a company use Kickstarter when they now have the big N backing their game?) So why are people complaining? Without Nintendo's intervention, the game wouldn't exist AT ALL. Funny how so many people are more angry over the fact the game is being made (even if it is for a console they don't want) than they were when the game was originally cancelled alltogether. Just be glad a sequel is even being made. There are plenty of worthy games/series that don't even get that.
All over a sequel to a non AAA game. I mean, Bayonetta was a good game but all this rage over a sequel to it? lol
This is platniums square/ff7 moment. If done right this could be there castlevania, metroid, Zelda for them. With some experimenting with that controller a few rounds of zombiu. If they do good nintendo may even pay them to update the engines being used on the wiiu. Then bring on vanquish!!!! That is all I want! Wait vanquish with treasure and grasshopper and retro would rock! LoL. I'm buying this sequel along with ninja gaiden and devils third. It all should be fun.
These people are retarted. They don't seem to realise that if it wernt for nintendo there WOULDN'T be a sequel to there beloved little game. Game wasn't good anyways, who's gives a damn.
Oh, the irony...
Why do people like this make the people who are "maturely" p***ed off (...what, of course it's a thing) look bad....honestly. As I keep saying if they took their time looking for a publisher who would release it on all platforms like Konami, after many bussiness meetings and negotiations over weeks/months then it would of worked out better for everyone, if they did EVERYTHING they could and Nintendo was really a last resort then fair enough...I mean we wouldn't of minded if the game was delayed for another year while they sort publishing stuff out, hell it wasn't even officialy announced so it's not like we were counting the days untill it's release. I'm scared that it's going to do poorly on the Wii U for being only on that one platform leading Platinum to stop continuing the Bayonetta franchise for good because they don't want to make another game which isn't going to sell. You know what they should of done...try to make this into a spin off featuring Jeanne when Nintendo picked it up.
Nintendo is the biggest most successful game company at the moment. They may be the only ones actually capable of making this. Microsoft appears to be sitting on their hands unless it is CoD related, Sony are shutting down studios left and right, and every other publisher are busy with their own in house work. The only realistic options money wise are Capcom, EA, Activison, Valve(are they even publishers?) and Nintendo. Add to this Nintendo and Platinums relations, and this makes the most sense. This isn't coming out of nowhere, as Madworld was a big Wii exclusive and the Wonderful 101 is also a WiiU game published by Nintendo.
There was also Okami Wii(Platinum games came from the merging of Clover and another studio, remember?), then there was also Infinite Space for the DS.
Studios clOse all of the time because of stubburness like this. There is a certain point where people don't eat....
Cool. An other "article" about the vocal minority. How about writing an article about how the rest of us don't really care.
I don't know... I kind of like it. It just proves my point that more and more folks that call themselves "gamers" are really nothing more than hateful dogmatic fanboys.
Lol do you think this gives us a peek into how next gen will be? More whiners, more "hateful dogmatic fanboys" (i liked that :P), and less actual gamers?
I don't understand why the issue reached this levels. After all Bayonetta was a very niche game (around two million units across the two systems). Where all the fuss is coming from? And this boycott thing is stupid. I'm not interested in the WiiU so I won't buy it, Bayonetta 2 or not, end of the problem.
The fuss is magnified by those who are upset based ONLY on the platform involved. Remember the Monster Hunter 4 3ds bruhaha? VERY few people in America, especially n4g before this major series was "Robbed" from Sony by Nintendo.
It reached this level because people like to hate on new things or make others feel bad for whatever reason. Boyonetta had pretty good gameplay, but like you said it was niche in everything else. Quite honestly a boycott is just stupid...because if these people weren't going to buy the Wii U anyways then they wouldn't have bought the game either. If they were going to buy the Wii U, and they were fans of Boyonetta, then why should they boycott it. Just failed logic if you ask me. What this is is a subversive way to try and boycott the Wii U, not Boyonetta, because quite frankly it's likely the game would have received the same or worse reception than the first one.
Right way to boycott is playing God Of War which owned it in sales and is a more superior game. Silly Otaku's trix are for people who get owned.
This is absolutely crazy. This is not a megaton announcement, last time I checked bayonetta was a descent game ( not a great game). If this were GTA, CoD, Mass effect, or batman I would understand. The truth is people just like to complain. The Ps360 has metal gear rising rising and DMC coming out in the next few months, truth be told those games would have probably cannibalized the sales of bayonetta.
Because any video game related boycott has ever worked before. Morons, the lot of them.
Aren't the people who are mad the people who don't plan on buying a Wii U, thus can't play it anyway? That's like if I boycotted birth control pills. It doesn't DO anything.
I know, It's like a guy with no feet boycotting shoes.
This is taking it a bit too far. There's nothing wrong with being passionate about your hobby but to do something like this? Makes all of us gamers look bad
Am with you , not cause i care but am not buying a Wii U till maybe year 3. so i got your back.
nintendo OWNS this game now, boycotting won't help. it wouldnt have existed at all if they didn't publish it, so stop crying.
They own publishing rights not IP rights.
For now... who knows what the future brings.