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Why PlayStation 3 gamers have a right to complain about Bethesda.

Recently there has been an uproar on the internet from PS3 users about the 2nd class treatment they have been receiving from Bethesda Software, the creators of the Elder Scrolls series. The problem is two parts. First is the constant performance issues plaguing the PS3 version in comparison to the other versions, but also there is uncertainty as to whether PS3 gamers will see the two released DLC packs, Dawnguard and Hearthfire or not; which both currently are available on the Xbox 360

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wishingW3L1409d ago (Edited 1409d ago )

everybody has the right to complain and be disappointed when all of a sudden a multiplat game which you liked goes exclusive to certain platform. Now the problem is when people start with the death threats and all that other immature stuff... Sooner or later you'll be forced to accept reality one way or the other and move on. You either buy the console to play the game or you don't.

decrypt1409d ago (Edited 1409d ago )

Sony designed the PS3 with simple to play corridor games in mind. They never realised that this gen would bring complex open world games. Hence the PS3 tends to struggle at it.

Not that 360 does a whole lot better, its just that out door games like Skyrim run best on PC. Hell even when they dont the modding community takes care of it, better than the devs can lol.

I would think Sony is to blame for poor design and arrogance in not asking any devs for their opinion when developing the PS3. Its why Sony is making the next Playstation more PC like.

@strongman

None of those games you mentioned have an inventory of thousands of items, that can be moved around the world. The game needs to register those items in the memory, when the next time you are back they are still there. Hence none of those games are comparable to a game like Skyrim, try harder.

No point blaming bethesda when Sony has admitted PS3 has its limitations, Sony cant implement cross game chat or a good browser due to those limitations for crying out loud lol. Its about time people stop picking on Bethesda.

StrongMan1409d ago

GTA4, Red Dead Redemption, Infamous, Infamous 2, Just Cause 2, Assassin's Creed, Assassin's Creed 2, Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood, Assassin's Creed: Revelations are all open world games that all play great on PS3. Why can't Bugthesda do the same?

Imalwaysright1409d ago (Edited 1409d ago )

@ StrongMan You should add Oblivion to that list! 4J Studios did a better job with Bethesda's own engine than bethesda themselves. Either Bethesda doesnt know how to code or they just dont care!

Red_Orange_Juice1409d ago

I expect more from studio named developer of the year, its all on Bethesda

t0mmyb0y1409d ago

I think it's more they never game the time to learn the PS3 properly and instead of trying they just said no. Kind of like a little baby.

chrisarsenalsavart1409d ago

And yet 360 cannot do a game like uncharted,infamous2 or gow3, gt5.!!!Etc

extermin8or1409d ago

wtf are you on? oblivion was a launch title in the eu, infamous was in development when ps3 was 1st announced, R* have been making an exclusive game for ps3 (what it will be who knows, will it be AGENT or another one now?)and Assassins Creed started life as a ps3 exclusive... yet only the recent bethesda games have issues beacuase of their shitty engine and some of the same issues have reared their heads on other platfroms just not as widespread; mainly pc's with slightly lower amounts of RAM-no other developer has this issue however so it's bethesda's fault not sony's or the ps3s...

ronin4life1409d ago (Edited 1409d ago )

Perhaps, but Bethesda is still a crappy dev. Even the Xbox and pc versions of most of their games are riddled with bugs...

@Chris
they DO have equitable experiences though...

SuperLupe1409d ago

Like somebody pointed out in another thread Sony THEMSELVES are having a hard time getting it to work on PS3 because they CAN NOT ADD RAM http://gamingbolt.com/skyri...

The PS3 can't handle it ... it may sound incredible but thats just the cold hard truth ... the system doesn't have enough RAM.

Now please come and tell how is this Bethseda's fault if even Sony themselves haven't fund teh solution ??

I need some twisted N4G logic to explain this to please otherwise I won't get an answer, so go ahead N4Gers !

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FXGAMESKILLEEN1409d ago

umm I think your talking about Platinum Games

chukamachine1409d ago

Bethesda

Can't code for shit.

Skyrim is a bargin bin game anyway, like most rpg's.

199935681409d ago

It's not a bargain bin game on the 360, the console that the game runs perfectly on.

HarryMasonHerpderp1409d ago

It doesn't "run perfectly" on the 360 though.
Why do people keep saying that?
I have a few friends that play it on the 360 and they have problems with freezing, framerate and random bugs too.

The best platform to get a copy of Skyrim was the PC and that's because all of the modders fixed the game and updated the graphics.

Seriously screw Bethesda.

and screw the gaming media for all of the 10/10 scores they gave the game especially to the PS3 version because they fooled the gamers into buying this bug ridden game.

dragonyght1409d ago

Lol i don't think this guy ever had skyrim on the 360

Imalwaysright1409d ago

LMAO the game is broken mess on all platforms it was released in. Who are you trying to fool?

nukeitall1409d ago

I believe the problem lies with Sony:

"Skyrim: Bethesda collaborating with Sony to get Dawnguard working on PS3"

http://gamingbolt.com/skyri...

Even Sony could NOT get it to work! Works everywhere else though....

Thatguyinthesuit1408d ago

though this is a late reply let me just point out that your comment would have had more truth to it had you focused on Sony's development of the PS3 and not that article.

It's not that Sony couldn't get it to work themselves since I doubt they put enough workforce on the project to make the term "they couldn't make it work" acceptable in context.

If they can get a talented 1st party dev team to help with it and it still doesn't improve then you can say that Sony can't get it to work. Otherwise it's still Bethesda who can't get it to work.

nukeitall1408d ago

@Thatguyinthesuit:

"If they can get a talented 1st party dev team to help with it and it still doesn't improve then you can say that Sony can't get it to work. Otherwise it's still Bethesda who can't get it to work."

Sony put resources to it and they couldn't get it to work (so far). Do you know who 1st party goes to for help?

The very same people that help Bethesda. That is how Sony shares information between their studios. There is a group of people there to help 3rd parties connect with inside knowledge and in some instances with other 1st party team members to solve "complex problems".

The bottom line is, Sony narrowly defined the architecture and made a bet that didn't pan out with the PS3 architecture.

Next generation, Sony will do a 180 degree turn and PS4 will drop Cell.

So yes, Sony couldn't get it to work so far.

Sticky__Rice1409d ago (Edited 1409d ago )

After everything thats happened with this game on the console, do you really think majority of ps3 owners even bother? It should be common sense that Bethesda doesn't really like the ps3 community. They're just extra cash to them. People should think about it and look back on the history of Bethesda this Gen.

EDIT: Disagree, It's the truth. But do you really think they released oblivion on ps3 just because they wanted to please ps3 owners?

BrutallyBlunt1409d ago

Oblivion disagrees with you.

PS3 owners have a right to complain, they just want things to work and not have the system be treated as 2nd class. However Sony needs to listen more from game developers and not have hardware that makes things more difficult.

Allsystemgamer1409d ago

Pc players say that all the time then ps3 players call them elitist snobs.

extermin8or1409d ago (Edited 1409d ago )

no it doesn't- horse armour, and the dlc released on playsatation store instead of only avaialable in GOTY edition? nope hmmm but it was on other platforms; this said i loved oblivion and had been looking forward to the same thing for skyrim but it wasn't there it got boring too fast, mainly because of the bugs and freezing etc o i cba and it wasn't really colourful enough that was the charm of oblivion it was typical fantasy world straight out of lord of the rings :p

and @Allsystemgamer: no people treat pc players as elitist knobs when they start going on about their rig that cost mor than a fucking car; and then complain few devs bother to support something 'rare' in comparision to the number of people with the average tech capabilities for that time period when the game was released....

XB1_PS41409d ago

I love Skrim, I honestly cannot believe that it's that bad on PS3. It makes me sad that you didn't experience the game that I did on the 360. I heard about a lot of bugs, but I didn't run into a SINGLE one. Which made me happy. :)

Sticky__Rice1409d ago

I bought it for Ps3 & i was hooked for the first 3 months. It was an amazing game. But they really didn't give us ps3 owners the quality assurance that they gave to the 360 & PC. Afterall.. thats the most important market to them.

dboyman1409d ago

My friend got the 360 version and was frustrated with the bugs in the game. (the 360 is not as buggy as ps3 version, but still has bugs). He also is one of the 360 owners who do not bash the ps3 and respects others choices in platforms, and feels Bethesda basically gave ps3 owners "the middle finger". He then told me he will never buy another Bethesda game, except on the pc, since he believes the mod community can do a better job with fixing the game, than Bethesda themselves.

Myself that why I waited till bought it on steam during sale and play it on the best platform for the game, the PC. Access to mods and more ram make a difference with their games.

Sony better make sure they don't gimp on Ram with PS4 (4GB or 8GB would do), as well easier to develop platform (Still would like them to be most powerful console though :))..

But Bethesda is not blameless either. As many people stated, on all platforms bethesda developed (360, ps3, pc)a lot of the games released when first come out are quite buggy, and have to be heavily patched later (least PC has mod community). they need to step up on QA for future games, and maybe a better coded engine. 4J Studios got Oblivion working well on ps3.

Still when the ps4 hits and bethesda offers to develop games for the platform, it might backfire on them in future. People who had ps3s and skyrim for ps3 plagued with bugs will remember how Bethesda essentially "abandoned" them and will avoid their future games..

Colts4201409d ago

Same here still runs great on my 360 glad I didnt buy it for my PS3.By the way 360 can handle God of War and the rest of these games people are mentioning.They are just exclusive thats all.If they were ported to 360 they would probally look better and run better 2.My PS3 collects dust thats about it.Sorry but thats the truth.

XB1_PS41409d ago

Mine does too, mostly because all of my friends have XBOX.. The only time I play the ps3 is for the exclusives and my ps+ games.

BlaqMagiq241408d ago

Yeah you keep telling yourself that

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