Yes it is true, from sonys offical numbers the ps3 is at 10.5 million ps3. The link shows the numbers as well as ps2 and psp with many other sony products.
i'd think most people are concerned with how many consoles were bought by consumers not sold to retailers.
"*Beginning from Q1FY07, the method of reporting hardware and software unit sales has been changed from production shipments to recorded sales."
They lowered expectations from 11 million to 9.5 million.
Edit: had a closer look at the numbers. its a collective of 5 quarters. Two are production shipments, 3 are recorded sales. not really a good way to collect data.
so they shipped 4.9 million around xmas? Not bad really wish we had q4 data....
maybe its 10.5 life time. and 9.5 for 2007 (fiscal year ending in march)
its 10.5 mil lifetime sales. They expect to ship 9.5 mil units in the fiscal year which began April 1st 2k7 and ends on March 31th 2k8.
I just went to vgchartz.com and it still has the PS3 at only 9.75 million. If I'm correct, thats nearly a million off, which is 10%. This is Sony's website, so I'd say the numbers are pretty reliable. So much for vgchartz being reliable...
There is pretty much no way in the world VGChartz or any other site can accurately predict the sales of consoles/software.
Chuck prepares for the upcoming flamewar to start.
edit: if this is true than M$ better watch out
they better watch out, they better watch out Santa Claus is coming to town...oops wrong thread.
I would like to know, how much they sold in each teritory
non stop fud pounding since e3 last year. Still a few things to iron out but dismiss the ps brand at your own peril
I dont mean to correct you but Sony has been copping FUD and bad media for about 3 years, not just since E3. I can remember all the fanboys saying it wouldn't even survive its own launch, and tossers like Gabe Newel saying they should just start again and drop their hardware like M$ does. BAH. Armchair experts. Hows that humble pie taste now?
sony has been crushing the fud since e3
But the chart shows their performance across all platforms in an easy-to-view format, as well as other Sony products. Pretty awesome stuff. The attach rate for software is pretty high -> 6.5 Games per console.
and will only get higher after this year that has some killer games
I calculated the ratio to be 5.2 games per console. We're talking PS3 here right?
i have 17 games for my ps3 so those numbers are way off lol:)
does anyone her own the Frag fx? i have the dualshock 3 and i love it but i want the frag fx.... can anyone tell me what they think of it.... thanks
I just did an average of hardware vs. software on the chart. Sucks that I can't check though since the link doesn't work for me now. Oh well, lower attach rate is better. [No I'm not going to explain why; I've done that too many times already]
F the attach rate , devs be happy no matter when they hit the million...
10.5 million sold???? are you serious. If so, VGChartz is off by a million??? Not bad, for vgchartz's unofficial data. Wow kinda unexpected.
BTW vgchartz. Haven't seen a report, yet, but according to their frontpage ( http://www.vgchartz.com/ ), which shows US HW numbers already, the PS3 is still ahead globally this week - without the Japanese (DMC4!) numbers, yet. This is a novelty.
My god! you're f**king right. That's more important then this. Good notice. if its correct.
I reckon Vg charts is closer then this person's calculations. He/she is adding 2 q of production shipments and 3 q's of recorded sales. That is going to give you a total of 2q productions shipments and 3 q recorded sales, not a total sell through 10.5 million.
:o It beating 360 without japan numbers + the fact PS3 will have a huge boost this week from disgea 3 + DMC4, ps3 could outsell 360 by about 60-70K alone in japan this week
Good stuff Sony. Keep the Ps3 fanboys happy lol.
10.5 million sold in one year and 16.8 million sold for 360 in two years. Wow.
Never really thought about it that way, imagine if they sell the same amount in another year... damn I'm glad i didn't fall for the 360 hype.
The ps3 is on the rise....and for those of you that thought the ps3 was the next dreamcast..HA!
The PS3 is the gathering storm. Blu ray winning and must have games are converging in 08.
Dont say that you will loose all your bubbles.
ALL CUZ OF ME. w/o me, Sony wouldn't be at 10.5 million, they'll be at 10.4999999 million.
that's actually kind of funny...bubbles for you....
You only bought 0.1 PS3s? Are you sharing it with ten friends or something?
it's the insternet. i didn't even try counting the #'s of 9's. but it's .1 PS3 not PS3s
from 05 to 06 novemeber the 360 sold about 9 million+ consoles world wide.. and from 06 to 3rd quarter 07 the firts year of PS3 they sold 10.49 million consoles if you add it all together.. here let me do it for you all just incase you can't add. ^^ FY06 3rd Q FY06 4TH Q FY06 total 1.66 + 1.91 = 3.57 million Note that the end of fiscal year 06 for Sony is march 31st 07 so at that point Sony had sold 3.57 million PS3s world wide... wit only Resistances and Motorstorm on sale at $600 bucks a pop. Now FY06 Total FY07 1st Q FY07 2nd Q Total console 3.57 + ( 0.71 + 1.31 = 2.02) = 5.59 mill Now for the fun Part... quarter 3 of FY07 saw the release of rachet, HS, warhawk, Lair, Folklore Eye of judgement, need for speed, Rockband, uncharted, GT5 in japan, COD4, Guitar hero 3, Mario galaxy Halo, Bioshock , PGR4, Halo3 and Assassins creed, Mass effect, and UT3 and xbxo 360 price cut and a new model at 499 and respectiveprice cuts on PS3s worldwide for both models... quater 3 Sony Managed and nice 4.90 million consoles worldwide add that to the end of quarter 2 tally of consoles sold since launch of 06 and you get 10.49 million sold as of date. FY06 3rd Q-FY07 2nd Q FY07 3rd q Total from launch 5.59 + 4.90 = 10.49 million Just so you dont dispute quick copy and past from Sony them self "*Beginning from Q1FY07, the method of reporting hardware and software unit sales has been changed from production shipments to recorded sales." ............................. ............................... ........... Thats pretty Good and just below the lower sales expectations because they thought they weren't gonna make it. ^^ they are on track to hit it's original fiscal year end 07 forcast of 11 million PS3 sold world wide with alittle over.. it should be looking like 11.3/11.4 million on March 31st 08... we'll see for sure but this actually proves how off VGcharts is actually. ^^
You said ...
from 05 to 06 novemeber the 360 sold about 9 million+ consoles world wide.. and from 06 to 3rd quarter 07 the firts year of PS3 they sold 10.49 million consoles
For the PS3 number you included December 07, but for the 360 you didn't include December 06. Nothing wrong with a good comparison, but make the data over the equivalent time period for a more accurate comparison. Microsoft's numbers (according to them, just as this was according to Sony) was 10.4 for the equivalent period:
i didn't exactly omit it though what i said was 05-06 november... the 360 was released in 3rd quarter 05. i just didn't specify since in 05 the 360 was the only next gen console on the market. but thanks for correcting me on the total sales on the 360's first year, i was really under the impression that they sold only 9+ million 10.4 is impressive. Thanks again foir the information...
No problem. These number games from MS/Sony are always entertaining.
Confused why I got a disagree from someone. Every post I put these days puts the back-up data from an external source (ie it isn't an opinion), and yet I get a disagree. It wasn't as if I said the PS3 sold less than the 360 over the first 13 months of life ... I showed it was the opposite according to manufacturers numbers.
disagrees are the norm here on N4G... and Fankids dont like the truth at all.. but dont let taht get to you, they will continue.. and thanks again for the clearification. i hate have wriong information
Don't forget that when the 360 was launched it had no next-gen competition. When the PS3 was launched it had mediocre games except for Resistance and with a high price tag. It also have major competition with the Wii and the 360, but it still outsold 360 in 2007 despite the release of mega hitters such as Bioshock, Mass Effect, and Halo 3.
Don't forget people avoid Xbox 360 because of it's hardware problems. That's half the reason why people don't want to buy one.
the people that bought multiple xbox's cuz of RROD
The PS brand alone sells regardless of how haters feel about it.
Only problem was he shouldnt have said it , but what the flip if your confident mind as well said it . actually i wasnt annoy at the comment . i was cheering him on .
Wow, its that 3rd quarter that did it. Thats why everyone has been taken by surprise so much by the turnaround. But still, its to be expected cos thats when everyone wants to spend up big, and I guess we've seen what it is they want to spend up on. Oh yeah, 54M games already. I thought people only bought PS3 for BR movies. Wonder how many they sold.
With the contrast of sold v/s shipped, it's pretty obvious sony has flooded it's retail channels with ps3's. I expect 2008 ps3 shipped numbers will be alot less when compared to 2007 numbers.
You never give up do you? It's SOLD not SHIPPED.
Getting all worried. The PS3 outsold the 360 last year without any big games, that's the sad thing. 360 had Halo, Mass Effect and Bioshock. So after all that trash talk about the PS3 selling like crap, it turns out it was selling more than the 360. Haters OWNED!
So why would Sony change their forecast to have sold 9.5million by March? This is most likely sold off to retailers, as the above gentlemen suggests, so lets assume that it is. And Sony predict they'll sell 9.5million by next month, so exactly how many do they have sold now? Around 9million? EDIT: Read below
I don't get it either, but in their financial report it states: "* Beginning with Q1 FY07, the method of reporting hardware and software unit sales has been changed from production shipments to recorded sales." All I know is VGchartz better start fixing some numbers.
Something is definitely off. These numbers don't seem to match up well given what they said. The guidance from Sept 07 ... http://www.gamespot.com/new... ... was for 11 million which is only .5 million from what they are reporting here (and only 3 months world wide to get it), yet they lowered their guidance.
Talvish, these are lifetime sales (10.5 million). Their 11 million forecast was for fiscal year 2007 (Q407-Q408 // March 07-March 08) They wanted to sell 11 million in that window, currently they have 8.83 million sold, so 9.5 million seems more doable than 11 million by March 08.
Yup, you are right rofldings and agreed. That does seem more doable.
"* Beginning with Q1 FY07, the method of reporting hardware and software unit sales has been changed from production shipments to recorded sales." Sales is "sales to RETAIL", not sales to customers. And yes, 9.5 Million in the financial year, and the 10.5 Million now are since launch. Before Sony counted Factory output = shipped (to warehouses) Now Sony counts sold (to retailers, not to customers, Sony has no way to count sales to customers, neither has Microsoft or any manufacturer unless he only sells directly to customers) There is no mixup, as Sony did not mix the counting, they changed the whole system, hence their "sold to retail" numbers now are accurate from day 1. They just do not publish shipment numbers anymore.
Meus the 11 million was for the fiscal year of 07 which is from march of 07 until march of 08.... Ohh lumbo by the way all game companies can track actual customer sales and they do... You know those serial numbers on console boxes? yea those are used for tracking purposes because if someone steals a ps3 and tries to "return" it to sony for money or something they can track whether that console was purchased, this method of tracking is far more accurate then sold to retailer...
The 9.5 million is for the period between March 2007 to March 2008. So 9.5 Million since Mar. 2007, not Nov. 2006. There is probably around 10 million customers that have a PS3 in hand. The site I won't say the name has it around 9.75 mil. Usually they report PS3 numbers in the minimum acceptable range, just from my experience as a member there.
i could take lets say 500k for the 06 shipment not as accurate, but most of those are already sold being 20/60gigs so these numbers look to be pretty accurate. I think MS needs a second revision on what is actually going on in their xbox division. No wonder they charging people for online they cant keep an increasing or steady pace of consoles sold. Edit: I think price is reason why ps3 is not selling a little closer to wii numbers. The sales of ps2s proves it that people getting what they can afford. Maybe next fall hit nxt price drop 100 dollars then ps3s will hit that zone. Also yea Sony wanted to sell 11mllion units in the 07-08 march range, not total units if you look at numbers they are at 9 about so i guess they didnt see themselves selling another 2 million consoles in 2months. They probably will hit the 11million mark when mgs gta or killzone comes out which ever hits first.
As long as they can keep up the growth, we'll seem some nice software down the road. Playstation rides again! :D
but the thing is 10.5 million with no games and a bad launch.
imagine with mgs4, ff13,ff13versus,gt5, etc.
I expect Sony to sell alot more in 2008.
Should'nt have said that, saying "X**ts on the site in gamer zone is like saying N***er in a crowd of African americans. (by the way I'm 25 percent black).
I'm not bashing n4g.com but it's true,. You'll probably get banned.
no worry man, the mod will catch up to him
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Sorry...it was too funny to resist.
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the extra 10% is because the myth is true!!!!
I agree, if they sold 10 million with no games, imagine 2008.
even against all the negativity....
THE FUD DIDN'T WORK.
the fanboys slowed ps3.but you couldn't stop ps3.sony is at 10 million.
against the remarks of"first to ten million wins","ps3 has no games","ps3 is too expensive","our system is just as powerful",i thought rumble was last gen",third party games run better on our system,"our service is better","we have the perfect storm".....
sony still sells 10 million systems.....WITH COMPETITION.and at a HIGH PRICE.
do you know what this means?
9 more years and sony could be sitting at 100 million or more for a THIRD TIME.ps1-102 million/ps2-125+million......
1 year=10 million.
9 years=90 million or more.
add it up.the bombs that sony are dropping and will be dropping are subtle.
*you want to continue to buy ps2?sure.why not.
*want to link it to your psp?it's nice,but you don't have to.
*you want to change the hard drive?sure.we support you.here's how to do it.
*you want to turn it into a computer?who cares.
*do you want to fold at home?it won't break.trust us.we built it to last.
*do you buy movies or games?it's cool.
*want to make games for that other system third parties?hey,we understand.making next gen games can be expensive.
all the while sony was chugging along in that MAG LEV train not worrying about a thing.but do you know what was on that train being shipped?
nukes.lots of them.and they will be dropping very soon.don't use up too much tissue.fanboys are going to need plenty soon...........
megaton.........bombs have been dropped..............
couldnt have said it better myself.... bubbles for you.
Better then I expected honestly. There putting up good numbers and this year is going to be fantastic as well. Both 360 and PS3 is going to have an interesting year.
I just noticed the source of this information ... Oh well do people even care?
A price drop before MGS4, GT Prologue and GTA4= another big sale jump and then the big guns coming out around Christmas with another slight price drop= PS3's year.