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How I Fell Out of Love with JRPGs: Final Fantasy X-2

A lot of ex-Final Fantasy fans cite X-2 as the game that broke their hearts and killed the franchise for them forever. This is just one gamer's perspective on how it all went wrong.

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Snookies124238d ago

It was a great game wrapped up in horrible execution and writing. That's what killed it... I mean come on... "Disasterrific?" Not even sure how to spell that it's so awful. The combat and story were pretty great, I don't think anyone can argue otherwise. If ANYONE else had been in charge of directing this game, I think it would have turned out wonderfully.

Godmars2904238d ago

And with that, you lost me.

While the initial story concept was very promising, the completed idea and its execution where horrible. especially having to play the game twice - or more because of exacting conditions - to get the "good" ending.

Snookies124238d ago

Yeah, that's what I said. :p

The execution was bad, the premise could have been great!

Pozzle4238d ago (Edited 4238d ago )

There were some interesting ideas in FFX-2 (Shuyin and Lenne had potential, seeing Spira after Sin was interesting, and the battle system was amazing) but it was definitely executed extremely poorly. And did Square have to make the whole thing so damn so girly? Hell, I'm a girl and even I found the game embarrassingly girly. Dress spheres, singing minigames, giant animal costumes, massage minigames, Yuna and Rikku saying things like "poopie" and "disasterriffic", etc. I even remember shutting my bedroom door during some scenes because I was embarrassed someone would walk in and see me playing it. I'm not even joking. :(

I get that FFX-2 was trying to show Spira had become more calm and care-free since Sin was gone, but so many things just came off as weird or downright childish.
Did Square REALLY think this was the best way to expand FFX's plot and show us what a Sin-less Spira looks like? Did Square REALLY think that turning Yuna into a clumsy ditz was the best way to expand on her as a character?

FFX-2 could have been GREAT...It could have been an amazing follow-up to FFX's epic and heart-breaking story. Square could have gone all-out and shown us how Spira's people were trying to cope after both the defeat of Sin and the destruction of their one religion. Societies might have broken down, whole towns might have been on the edge of collapse, temples might have been destroyed in anger, and certain areas might have been on the brink of civil war (Guados vs humans perhaps?). FFS! Spira had not only lost the one thing that threatened the planet; they had also lost their way of life - the one religion they all believed in. Yes, Sin was gone...but so was everything that these people knew and lived by. If Square had really tried, FFX-2 could have been GREAT. But instead we got sphere hunting and silly dress-ups. :(

Not that I didn't enjoy the game...but it could have been SO much more.

Godmars2904238d ago

Actually things should have been worse after Sin. Given that the religious government was not only secretly supporting, but made up of the unsent. Also the energy which had made up Sin was still around, meaning that if the spell infrastructure was still in place it could have been remade. With the process utterly devastating Spira's living population.

X-2 should probably have been about a Summoner "Civil" war. The end of Sin and the truth about him creating two factions: one wanting to claim Spira for the living and move forward largely by sending the remaining unsent, and those attempting to maintain the old order and revive Sin as well as the Aeons. With Yuna dead center of the mess because, as the proven most powerful summoner, she's the only one who can revive. Which the bad guys try to trick her into doing by bringing back Tidus.

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FFX and FFX-2 Do Not Need a Sequel

As a complete duology, Final Fantasy X and X-2 just do not need a sequel. These games provided us with satisfying conclusions to the characters' journeys and meaningfully wrapped up their arcs. And after the terrible way -Will- presented its narrative, feeling more like an attempt to capitalize on the previous game's success than a well-crafted and meaningful sequel, that's all the more reason to just let FFX be what it already is. Any further attempts to force a sequel will only diminish the legacy and impact of Final Fantasy X and X-2.

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Snookies12323d ago (Edited 323d ago )

If they do another one, I'd really like to see more of a focus on the connection to FF VII. Since it was confirmed that they take place in the same world. Let's just keep the pop star element out of it for the next one... I really enjoyed X-2 as a game, but man that decision for Yuna and Rikku's character direction wasn't the right choice.

shinoff2183322d ago

The connection to 7 would be dope af. I can even begin to think how'd they do it. I mean storywise and stuff I know about the Shinra stuff and everything. I'd be down with a 10 3

-Foxtrot321d ago (Edited 321d ago )

Nope

https://www.finaland.com/?r...

It wasn't supposed to be taken seriously

"This story is a bit of a joke. When we created FFX-2, we wanted to create something, a totally new world. Except that when I created it, I realized that it looked a lot like FFVII ... But without realizing it. Afterwards, when it was officially said in Ultimania, it took a completely gigantic proportion when it was just an anecdote"

Thank God anyway

It's better when each FF is a different Universe

Snookies12321d ago (Edited 321d ago )

Except, it is canonically connected in the VII Remake. There's a Shinra character in X-2, who is actually shown in a picture on the wall in the Shinra HQ in Remake. Meaning at the very least, X and VII share the same world in the Remake version.

CrimsonWing69321d ago

@Snookies12

I thought they said that was just a joke:

―It’s a sequel to VII?!!
Kitase: “No, that was halfway a joke. However, in FFVII’s ending, Holy was supposed to settle things, then it’s suddenly ‘500 years later,’ and there’s been nothing like a sequel for it. There’s room to fill in that gap. There’s room for imagination. Since Nojima-san and Toriyama-san have worked together since then, talk that it could be possible with those staff members built up for a moment.”

―So, how did talk of it as a sequel to VII come up?
Nojima: “I felt that VII and X had a relatively connected feeling, that VII has an essence there.”

―Ehh, so VII and X are connected?
Nojima: “No, there isn’t much to it. For example, what happens when people die is fundamentally the same in my mind. I wrote both stories following the same idea. At times, other thoughts pop up, though. Pyreflies are green here and there, and other colors besides.”

https://thelifestream.net/c...

I think they were just having fun and making a gag out of it.

Name Last Name321d ago

@Snookies12 those are just easter eggs

-Foxtrot321d ago

@Snookies12

Easter eggs man nothing more

Like I said it's better for them to have their own Universe then being connected

I mean think about it...FFVII and FFX are completely different outside of those small little things, the worlds are like Night and Day

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Flawlessmic323d ago

Nope but I sure would love a remake of ffx, my fav ff game along with 9.

JokerBoy129322d ago

Oh man, never thought I'd see someone with the same favorites as me lol. We're supposedly getting a remake of 9 at some point. I'm hoping we get something new from the FFX universe.

shinoff2183322d ago

I cannot wait for the remake of 9. It's got me pumped and it's not even official. Ff9 is damn near perfect imo

Abnor_Mal321d ago (Edited 321d ago )

I just saw a video about a rumor that Sony may have secured the rights for FF9 exclusivity for some possible remake.

https://youtu.be/7P8fsQkFN3...

Skip ahead to the 2:30 mark

Okay didn’t see others already said it

gold_drake323d ago

technically, they already do. in form of a novel and audio thing.

but .. i dunno. ive always wanted a prequel with the three guys.

not sure what else there is to tell about Spira.

shinoff2183322d ago

Sorry for the spoiler if true

Is it true if you complete x2 100 percent tides comes back in some way. I never 100 percented it.

Name Last Name321d ago

Yes, the Fayth ask Yuna if she wants to see him and they dream him up again.

shinoff2183321d ago

Thanks. That pretty much what I read.

dumahim322d ago

Is this article 22 years too late?

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20 Years Ago, Final Fantasy Broke Its Biggest Rule — and It Paid Off Wildly

The franchise had been built around each game being an entirely original and unique experience. But that all changed in 2003.

BrainSyphoned397d ago

I remember X2 as the game that birthed the idea in Square that FF13 parts 1-3 and the disastrous FF 13 Versus....I mean FF15 were great ideas. Hooray for continuations paying off wildly to the point of almost not existing.

Harkins1721397d ago

And it still sold 10 million copies. Wasn't that disastrous.

kingnick397d ago

The attempt to make side stories to mainline FF games was another lazy idea by SE to maximise profits while expending fewer resources.

FFX-2 was a good game and I liked the combat system it didn't have the replayability of prior mainline titles. The comedic nature of the characters and story meant I didn't feel as invested in the game world.

ManMarmalade397d ago (Edited 397d ago )

The problem with 13 was actually that it was ported to the 360. Tons of ideas and content had to be scrapped to make room for the game on the 360 which required 3 discs, while the PS3 required only one disc. The battle system had things missing that were in the original trailers too. I tried to like the game when it came out, but I was disappointed and stopped playing around halfway through.

-Foxtrot397d ago

The dress sphere mechanic was fantastic I thought

FallenAngel1984397d ago

FFX-2 was my first game in the series

FallenAngel1984397d ago

I love that game. Beating it multiple times is a blast

sadraiden397d ago

Is N4G trying to astro-turf themselves against all of the current SE hate? Seems like there's a lot of "SE GOOD" posts today in the wake of the Symbiogenesis noise.

Godmars290397d ago

I remember it as middling at best. The first FF I didn't finish.

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Final Fantasy X series shipments and digital sales top 20.8 million

Total worldwide shipments and digital sales for the Final Fantasy X series, which includes Final Fantasy X and Final Fantasy X-2, have surpassed 20.8 million units as of September 2021.

In October 2013, Square Enix announced that the series had sold over 14 million copies. Since this was before the initial release of Final Fantasy X | X-2 HD Remaster, it can be assumed that the remastered collection makes up the additional 6.8 million units.

phoenixwing638d ago

It's so cheap on steam I'm not surprised

Melankolis638d ago

Heh, it's even 30% cheaper than FF VIII Remastered

Flawlessmic638d ago

Remake pleaseeeeee!

Keep the game exactly the same just give me next gen graphics!!