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Skyrim is a phenomenon - and Hines wants Dishonored to be too

MCV asks Bethesda’s PR and marketing VP asks if the smash hit RPG has changed the publisher’s ambitions. Bethesda's PR and marketing VP Peter Hines is also cautions that the jump to new consoles will come at a cost, and that existing technology has plenty of life left in it.

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dirigiblebill1387d ago

"Bethesda exec unconvinced by PS3"

Fixed.

Marked1387d ago

"Bethesda exec unconvinced by all competition"

Now its fixed!

These turds hardly make a stable PC version...let alone live up to the standards set by their competition.

Hatsune-Miku1387d ago

They are stuck in the past. Their games on the pc are comparable to the console ports with barely any improvements. They are rubbish

Blastoise1387d ago (Edited 1387d ago )

True dat. Glad to see someone acknowledging that it's not just the PS3 version that's not up to standards.

SirBradders1386d ago

@winter47th i would but work 50+ hours a week you have any quick guides follow.

tehpees31386d ago (Edited 1386d ago )

This is the point I've made. People think support for 360 and PS3 will just carry over from companies without question but it won't.

A lot of companies will hold games back until they see sales for the systems grow. In which case they will make multiplats for PS3, 360 and Wii U still.

Or to put it in other terms: they won't leave "current gen" systems until they are sure "true next gen" systems have a big enough install base to justify the risk of development.

Until then expect 720 and PS4 to share multiplats with the others.

AsheXII1386d ago

If by standards you mean linear experiences with restrictive gameplay an cinematic action then yes Bethesda doesn't live up to standards.

Elwenil1386d ago

Nah, it's not this gen of consoles that is holding Bethesda back, it's Bethesda that's holding Bethesda back.

srcBFMVBMTH1386d ago

@AsheXII

Rockstar > Bethesda

In every possible way.

CmonBeReal1386d ago SpamShow
MaxXAttaxX1386d ago (Edited 1386d ago )

That's a design choice that's been around for years, you ass.

Skyrim could have benefited from cinematic action or at least a few cutscenes to try and make it seem like some events and other things I do in the game matter.

It doesn't even live up to standards when it comes to character animations and simplistic clunky combat, glitches, game breaking bugs, or even including you in the story instead of being a glorified errand boy, etc.

Irishguy951386d ago

It is better than other games for exploring. Other than that every single thing, if you break them down into what the are, they are very meh. Combat, presentation(including animation, graphics/draw distance)...and well..that's it isn't it? Combat is dreadful. I also LOVE the way they took out any sort of unique traits of each race. Woo. Streamlining Ftw

ALLWRONG1386d ago

Bethesda games all work for me

inveni01386d ago

I do appreciate the difficulty of creating a game with the depth and weaving narrative attributed to Bethesda's craft. BUT most of the bugs their games face are not related to this depth. It's related to poor programming expertise. Yes, my primary character on Skyrim was ruined because of a quest glitch. But just as frustrating is the horrible engine design that, while beautiful, is broken in nearly every sense.

The current-gen consoles aren't holding us back...devs like Bethesda are.

MysticStrummer1386d ago (Edited 1386d ago )

@AsheXII - Given their quality control problems, perhaps Bethesda should try making a more linear experience with restrictive gameplay and cinematic action. They might have better luck with that, and they don't come close to Rockstar for an open world experience anyway.

Elwenil1386d ago (Edited 1386d ago )

Ok, so what the hell happened to the title of this thread? This is a complete 180° from what it was when posted. The description of the article is also completely different.

snipes1011386d ago

Lol at all the imbeciles that don't realize that Bethesda is only PUBLISHING Dishonored. Arkane studios is developing it.

All this discussion about Bethesda's development practices has nothing to do with Dishonored. Good lord, people. Sorry for throwing around insults but sometimes people can just be so quick to to bash something.

Campy da Camper1386d ago

What pisses me off is I want to love Bethesda. I give them more chances than I did my alcoholic ex-wife. After the greatness of Oblivion, I jumped all over Fallout 3. Crash, crash, crash.

Then New Vegas: I was 5 minutes into the game and the old man's head was spinning like the Wheel of Fortune. Get outside...crash, crash, crash.

Went to midnight release of Skyrim. Crash, crash, crash. Broken quests. Horrible combat. Redundant caves bosses. Game breaking bugs...

It just pisses me off. I love open world WRPG but their shit is so damn glitchy that it just ruins it. I am seriously debating NOT getting Fallout 4.

With game like Infamous 1 & 2 and Demon's/Dark Souls I am about to just write them off.

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fermcr1387d ago

With all the trouble they are having with Skyrim's DLC on the PS3, they don't think these consoles are holding them back ? .... hummm

kneon1387d ago

Because they know it's their poor programming skills that are holding them back. Bethesda games are routinely among the buggiest games released every year.

Blankman851387d ago

Even SONY is struggling with Skyrim's dlc though. Just puttin' it out there.

Hellsvacancy1387d ago

Exactly, its Skyrims fault (Bethseda)

koston36471386d ago

but who made Skyrim, and the DLC that is out for it.......

koston36471386d ago

@Ndivhu but who made Skyrim, and the DLC that is out for it.......

jmac531386d ago

@koston3647
Well who made the ass backwards PS3 architecture that has caused developers problems from the start.

torchic1386d ago (Edited 1386d ago )

@jmac

that excuse doesn't fly 6 YEARS after release date.

no no no

humbleopinion1386d ago

I think they know the consoles are not holding them back because they unlike other companies they didn't compromise their vision just so that it will work 100% identical on consoles and PC. Skyrim maxed out on the PC with their new texture pack makes the consoles version look and feel almost like a Wii game - the difference is huge. The consoles also didn't stop them from releasing their editing tools and building a modding community on Steam.

The DLC issue on the PS3 also didn't hold them back from releasing it on the PC and X360: if they were dumping all the other version just because they stretched out the memory or whatever on the PS3 version - then we would have been able to say that consoles are holding them back.

@torchic:
Why doesn't this excuse still hold? Did Sony at any point dump the old design and fix the PS3 architecture, or is it virtually the same architecture as it always was?

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TheHater1387d ago

They can't get their games working correctly on the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and PC. The PC community had to release a "mod/patch" just to get the game running correctly on the PC.

topekomsi1386d ago

Too bad consoles can't get the same.

Pushagree1387d ago (Edited 1387d ago )

I really don't see how he can say that. I figured an ambitious developer like bethesda would want more technical umph to make they type of games that they want to make. The games they make now of of such a large scope that they are diffiucult to run on consoles as it is. They way I see it, the current gen is holding them back.

Ducky1387d ago

The person making the comment does PR and Marketing, not actual game development.

As far as they're concerned, they're content with the current-gen dragging on for the reasons stated in the article.

ZoyosJD1386d ago

Winner: Me

Just finished Dark Souls (again).

chukamachine1386d ago

Currently playing Dark Souls on PC.

After install, the game looks awful. Even if you switch to 1080p rez, it's the internal rez. 1024x720p.

But after searching is finding the rez fix, it also fixes the framerate for me as well.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

The difference is amazing while playing.

Blastoise1386d ago

Dark Souls ftw. SL & Console?

Christopher1386d ago

Talk about the most ignorant comment you can make when they can't get their game to work on a current gen console.

CarlosX3601386d ago

How can you be unconvinced by PS3? PS3 has a lot of horsepower left. It's Xbox 360 that is holding a lot of developers back. Ever wonder why content is being cut out from the final version of the game?

hennessey861386d ago

multiple discs are not a problem

Godmars2901386d ago

More to do with the current Elder Scrolls issues on the system.

andibandit1386d ago

I agree the ps3 is a supercomputer and still give modern pc`s a run for their money. Programmers just need to learn how to program

Brosy1386d ago

@carlos
The 360 outperforms the PS3 in the vast majority of multiplats. The 360 isnt holding the PS3 back. Thats a dumb assumption. PS3 is 6 year old tech, games arent going to magically start performing better for the PS3. The PS3 as well as the 360 are tapped out of more power. Thats why we need a new gen of consoles.

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geddesmond1386d ago

They can't get 1 game to work properly on the PS3 and he says existing technology has plenty of life left SMH. Just be honest. He doesn't want the next gen because of costs only.

tommygunzII1386d ago

Why does it always smell like cheese in here?

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KentBlake1387d ago

...says the company that can't even make a DLC work properly on a current-gen console.

Sarcasm1387d ago

Not just DLC, pretty much all their past titles on PS3 either run like crap or don't run at all.

topekomsi1386d ago

They could fvck up a wet dream.

GrahamGolden1386d ago

not true
oblivion best console version was for the ps3

u can watch the reviews on gaming video sites
the xbox version had poor frame rate and was buggu as hell.

so its clear thats it bugthesda fault...they cant launch a proper game...u always have to wait for like a year so they release a "complete edition" with everything fixed.

and they making an mmo ?
hahaha lol good luck and good patience to all those who gonna play this bug paradise game

Dark_king1386d ago

@GrahamGolden
Yea but even that version had issues with bugs.Getting stuck as a vampire for the rest of the game was a pain.

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Baka-akaB1387d ago (Edited 1387d ago )

Funny , i could swear you were blaming the issues of your last game on current hardware

NYC_Gamer1387d ago

Bethesda shouldn't speak on hardware until they could build an engine that actually works