Bethesda hasn't yet decided whether it will support Wii U, the publisher's PR and marketing VP Pete Hines has suggested, adding that the advent of a new generation "comes at a price".
That man has very good points.
@WrAiTh Sp3cTr3 What? Really? On topic: These guys cant even get the PS3 version of Skyrim working on a console that released over 5 years ago let alone work on a console yet to come.
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The Ps3 has nothing to do with the risk of bringing their resources to a console that hasn't been released yet. If you read the article you would see his points. But let me guess you're a multiconsole owner who "wisely" bought the PS3 version of their game lol. Don't address me in ignorant comments please. I was wondering why you were ignored....
He has a point though wraith, I own both the 360 and ps3, I got skyrim for the ps3 simply because I prefer the controller, the game was a mess, no excuses should be made for developers that release faulty products, should I be made to have an inferior version because of my choice in which console I buy my games on? Did I not pay the same amount of money? They can't even get dlc to work, and the whole myth of every 3rd party game being better on 360 is a little old now, we all know the ps3 can go toe to toe with the 360 when programmed properly, don't make excuses for lazy devs.
The article wasn't about getting a certain system do all the thing created in the game . but it was about a point of view from a Publisher PR rep view.
I was thinking the same thing lol. the only cosole they know how work properly is a 360. God forbide when next gen truly arrives.
GriverSoul said "These guys cant even get the PS3 version of Skyrim working." Really? That's news to me. So what the hell have I been playing since Christmas, and having a helluva time doing it? I could of swore it was Skyrim on my PS3.
This is what is going to hold nintendo back. They are making the same mistakes that kept the 3rd party from developing on thier consoles. The modern 21st century console needs to be state of the art so that devs can make the games that they want to. Bethesda can't make groundbreaking HD open world games on grandpa's computer chips. Epic can't maximize unreal engine 3 on it either. It's time to listen to Epic and move forward, not backward.
Epic says that because that have an "engine" to sell. With each generation, an Unreal Engine gets a new version. If the consoles dont renovate, the engine is the same and they dont sell the new and improved version of it. With each game sold with an Unreal engine, a profit is made but not as big as buying a new version of it.
If you actually read the article you'll see he isn't convinced enough will buy Durango and Orbis to justify the cost of development. They aren't jumping on board with anybody until the hardware is set in stone and the install bases are there. THIS INCLUDES PS4 and 720.
I would not be quick to blame Publisher or 3rd party developers , most of Nintendo's issue w/ 3rd parties they created.
Bethesda can't even handle the ps3. Fallout 3 and Vegas are damn near broken as is Skyrim. They have a lot of nerve. lmao And yes I know they are the publisher shame on them anyway.
speak for yourself i've played both Fallout 3 & New Vegas on PS3 and never had any problems.
Not sure about New Vegas, but i have the Platinum on Fallout 3 and never had a single problem with it.
You are the one speaking for yourself . Cool for you if you play it fine ... but those games were notoriously full of issues of issues even acknowledged by Bethesda
i didn't say they weren't jackass, how about i say it in words you could possibly understand. i basically said don't assume that everyone is experiencing the same problems as other people when they aren't. i've seen plenty of people on here besides me that have played the said games with no issues at all. am i saying its good that bethesda has been lazy developing those games on the ps3. No im not, so get your panties out a twist. EDIT @waltyftm thank you for proving my point, zeon said fallout 3 was broken. you haven't had a problem with it and neither have i.
Haha, yeah, it seems Bethesda can only work on shitty, easy to develope for consoles (360) it's thier loss, i'm getting a Wii-U and PS4, fuck Micro$oft and Bethesda.. Edit: i know i sound like a Sony/Nintendo fanboy, but i don't give a damn..
Fanboy? I don't think so. Microsoft lost all of their 1st party developers. Sony and Nintendo both have huge 1st party support. I don't see the point in the next Xbox. Microsoft needs to figure out something because Halo and timed exclusive DLC isn't going to cut it next gen. I'm sure PSN will be on par with XBL next gen. OT: Even though Bethesda games are buggy on PS3 I generally enjoy them. And I think they will support Wii-u eventually.
what? new vegas was better on ps3.
Well i'm not sold on bethesda , so a "fair trade off"
Bethesda can't even get off of Microsoft's lap. Did anyone think Bethesda was gonna embrace Nintendo in the first place? Sorry Bethesda, your games are not needed on the Nintendo platform to be relevant. That's not even an insult, it's the truth, and says alot about your company. Just wish Bethesda weren't MS fanboys.
Oh no, how will Nintendo fans cope without terribly overrated and shamefully broken games like Skyrim?
People will need to live with great games from Nintendo, Ubisoft, THQ, Activision, EA, Capcom, great indie games and etc. I have no idea how people will survive without playing buggy and glitchy games.
Medicore devs, nothing lost and boring create a character games are the worst.
Bethesda games aren't even that good plus they come packed with so many bugs/glitches
The man speaks truth in regards to jumping on the "next-gen" band wagon. However, hes approach to the Wii U is on a business level. Its a waiting game. How many people will buy, are the numbers there. The fact that the Wii U's specs are similar to the PS3 and or Xbox 360 can only be its benefit, since it will be a comfortable place for developers to make games. Look at all the great stuff coming out now. Towards the end of this cycle. If the Wii U fails to deliver the kinds of experiences we want and expect it will not be Nintendo's failure alone (although they will have to share in the responsibility), developers and publishers have NO excuse, all the tools have been provided for them. They have all they need. What they are limited by is their imaginations. The one argument that would hold water is if the Wii U is a colossal failure, which I will pull a Patcher here and predict, it will NOT be.
Usually you as a developer can also ensure a market by contributing your games to a platform ( of course it's all business and money ) Playing the waiting game won't do you any good. The games will shape the appeal. So if you're not providing and then say "See there is no market for it" you can't really complain.
maybe I didn't understand properly, but if a console fails we can hold 3rd party devs accountable? lolwut
That's not what I meant. All I'm saying is that if they want a market that buys their games. They need to provide the games first. The "waiting game" doesn't mean anything even when the install base grows. Just because there is an installbase doesn't mean these people are interested in your games. The earlier you establish your franchise on a new console the higher the chance you dictate what kind of gamers buy said console. It comes down to software. If you aren't providing your type of games. People have no reason to look at said console for these type of games. It's a double edged thingy or something.
Man, are some of you guys serious? Nintendo wants third party support. They came out and said they want the hardcore gamer back. Getting the major western developers on board is crucial for Nintendo if they want to lure third party buyers onto the Wii U. Especially since western developers are so dominant this gen. Developers like Bethesda passing over the Wii U isn't good thing for what Nintendo is trying to accomplish.
True Nintendo does need big third party developers, but no matter what Nintendo did third parties where going to be skeptical. The WiiU can be the best console ever, but traditionally Nintendo first party games do well on the Nintendo platforms and everyone else is a distant second. So regardless, they where going to have to prove that third parties can and will do well on their platform. However, if all I have to look forward on the WiiU is a Bethesda port then they can just keep that shit to themselves. Just look at how badly Bethesda is screwing over ps3 folk right now. I don't accept the crap that it is too hard to develop for the ps3 and thats why they can't fix their fucking game. Bottom line is that ps3 folk paid these assholes $60 for a game that works and Bethesda gave them a broken game and a bunch of excuses. If they want to pull the "ps3 is to hard to develop for card" then they should charge less for ps3 version of the game.
@Wildstyles, Please quote anywhere in the article where they say they are skipping over Wii U entirely. Failing to comprehend English isnt a good thing. They are waiting til the install base is there for their games. ONe 3rd party wants to wait and see and you turn that into they are passing it over and some how Nintendo cant get any western developers...
lol I wonder what is bugging them??
I've noticed someone mentioned the platinum version of Fallout 3. I talked about the PS3 version. Sheesh I know the xbox version has less glitches.
they should not stir away from the Wii U cause the Wii U opens up other possibilities for gameplay that can change how the core gamer and the average gamer of this time interact with the gaming experience. having a game from Bethesda on the Wii U could help them sell their games that they make due to the popularity of the Nintendo fan and i may not have any games that i have played from Bethesda but if they did develop a game, i would love to be open to try it. so i say all that to say this, Bethesda or any developer should not stir away but try to get on board they never know. oh yea and by the way the Wii U is not a next gen console its a current gen console in a next gen environment that opens doors to new ways to play.
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