GC writes, "PS3 was off to a rocky start. The incredibly high loss on each system was devastating, as was the billions in R&D costs. The launch line-up was lackluster and the $600 “get a second job” price was ludicrous. SONY endured through the billions in losses thanks to initial PS3 madness and has managed to take the brand back to profitability, but in the state their in now they need to of learned from their mistakes. The PS4 needs to be success. We have a few ideas regarding how".
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Sony needs a competitive price. $299/399 would be preferable.
They also would benefit greatly from either coming out before Microsoft OR coming out a couple months right after MS.
Keep the online free. That will still serve as a huge reason for people to choose the PS4. Keep PS+ as the premium option for free games and extra services but keep online gaming and cross game chat and a party system ALL FREE.
Other than that we need those network features we were missing on the ps3: cross game chat and a unified party system.
We know their hardware will be great and reliable.
We know the games will be there. Look at all the great games coming out on the PS3 lately and soon to come.
I'm also pretty sure the PS4 will have a new media standard in 4K Blu Ray discs capable of playing 4K movies. The games, for the most part, won't be 4K. Most will be 1080p and 720p. There might be some PSN titles like Stardust HD that do 4K but Uncharted 4 won't be 4K. New Blu Ray discs means even more storage capacity for games and media on the disc. They might finally start selling games and movies together on one disc as an option (e.g. Transformers movie and coinciding game).
We also know that Gaikai will play a big part on the PS4. Cloud steaming of games could eliminate the need for a PS5 anytime soon, possibly allowing for an even longer console cycle.
PS Home is a tricky one. They might axe it due to its niche appeal but they might keep adding to it and make it even more robust with more free games and social experiences.
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Free online DOES NOT necessarily equal a poor service. Look at Steam on the PC and pretty much every PC online game. Plus, the PS3 is really only lacking cross game chat and a unified party system. Is that really worth paying for?
Edit: That's not a slant against the Dualshock, it's an amazing controller, one of the best designed ever, but I just prefer the Xbox controller, fits better in my hands and I like the triggers more, the bad D-Pad doesn't bother me.
It would be beautiful!
-Humble price
-Humble hardware for devs to work with
-Before Xbox 3
-Strong launch line of old IPs and new
-Good slogan (PSFour + Lots of Four Sequels-- K4, UC4, GoW4, Jak 4, etc)
-Branded, overhauled PSN for free/Gaikai/Home (I think Home is too far in to quit now, and that Gaikai/new hardware will bring out a better potential
-Official, alternate controller for those uncomfortable with Dualshock to really win over the fans that just have trouble
EDIT. I prefer SONY brand only for one reason its Gran Turismo series and other titles only Sony have, so in my case I will buy PS4 anyway, no matter what. I trust them!
In my honest opinion Sony took way too much from us than what they really gave us this gen. A lot of fans try to deny it but they all know it's true. Thank god for the games, but even recently the sequels to half of these games were a disappointment.
I really hope Sony does have a plan for next gen because I have lost faith in them. I used to love ps to the point of collecting every trophy. Now if I bother to turn on my ps, it's for corny ass mw3 for just quick action, or scrolling through the boring xmb looking at my friends list. I'm just tired of MS and Sony...I think I might not even be a gamer next gen the way this is shaping for me.
Does this really matter to you on a gaming system? I dont need either to enjoy gaming. Just good damn games is what matters to me.
And for your closing comment, It seems your not actually a gamer "this gen".......
The PS3 is still Amazing and minus the blurry crap visuals GT6 better be coming to PS3!! Same with another Killzone and more Metal Gear Games!
GT6 as a PS4 launch title would be ideal and would be an amazing launch game.
Just release one GT game per console and give out free updates and more track packs and cars as DLC.
1. exclusive aaa games (uncharted, lbp, infamous, metal gear solid 4, heavy rain, god of war, journey, the last of us ect..
2. reliable hardware
3. free online
4. bluray (maybe 500 gigs( ps4)
5. crossplay.
Free online = Poor service - FACT
EDIT: Online Console service.
You do realise PC has always been free and is the best online service available?
Pc online gaming is free, and it has been a fantastic service for me so far...
**Remember, one does not simply has a better online service just because they paid for it**
Because at the end of each day, and pay period your only giving the company your paying money to, the right to charge you use your OWN BANDWIDTH, and the other 50% of your purchased games that have a multiplayer option... Think about it...
sure, if you consider hardware sales to be the defining factor, but even then the wii would be the victor. the reality is that the quality of the gaming experience (i frankly don't care about the ability to chat with people while playing a different game or creating a party) has been vastly superior (in my opinion) on the PS3.
so in that respect, i believe sony came out on top.
also, free online =/= poor service. PSN is just fine, i've had zero problems with their service. free online means not having to pay an extra $60 just to play half of the game you already paid $60 for...
Kinect, viva pinata, the game where players can tickle a tiger, a racing game that requires no effort to play, 3 ip's compared to 10 ip's from both nin and sony, RROD(which caused gamers to buy multiple xbox's, so that people can boast about sales figures), lacking HDMI for about 3 years since launch until system revision, doesnt support HD-Dvd's, and its media format is DVD-9 which doesnt have the option to increase storage capacity like regular dvd's, proprietary components; harddrive, memory card, etc., giant non-rechargeable battery looking power supply, scratches its own disk when reoriented, can't copy music, pictures, videos, etc. to various storage devices, doesnt support 1080p, its best selling game wasnt system compatible and went through a series of updates, and it was an exclusive title to that system, and its new exclusive title is a continuation of 1 of the 3 mentioned worth talking about ips, i'll make it 4(counting Alann Wake)....
The list goes on, but why bother....
And MS (Xbox), won this generation how?....
And oh the PS3 was out selling it since launch apparently...
This gen was solid from the start and is finishing even stronger. But the BS about "winners" or "losers" becomes completely moot once those systems reach 10s of millions of units sold. And as hardware figures go, SONY and MS pale in comparison what Nintendo does. So, sales do not make a solid argument that sales equal quality (see Apple).
AAA Games and Exclusives have been argued to death with the PS3 crowds yelling about the plethora of exclusives and MS crowds screaming that their exclusives have better quality.
Reddead claims that the Free Online for PSN is a poor service and that it is a FACT. Which brings me to the worst part about this generation: fanboys spreading lies about the other system. Online gameplay differs in one aspect between the Xbox and PS: cross game chat. (Note: just talking about online play and NOTHING ELSE). I have heard so many lies about the Xbox and so many lies about the PS3 that if they were all to be believed both systems would have been so bad that neither would ever have been able to play games let alone be connected to a television without blowing up entire city blocks.
Enough with the BS. No one really believes it. You sound like democrats and republicans arguing about which of their guys is better. The only difference is that if you put a room full of PS3s or Xbox360s in a room by themselves they could govern the USA better than the current crop of idiots.
Some of you need to drop this childlike mentality towards the gaming business.
Ps4 will have cross chat.....GAME OVER:)
Hell,they've beaten them worldwide.
Blu Ray is an amazing perk!!
As long as MS doesn't jump on the bandwagon like they always do.
If Sony can go head to head with MS on the USA advertisement front,they'll have no prob taking back the crown:)
Seems to me like doing the latter would put you in a good position to do the former.
but it would be nice to shut certain fanboys up on N4G and other sites,and put sony back at forefront of gaming where they're meant to be on all levels.
They can do it.
Come on KAZ baby!
What is the true definition of winning anyway?
Gamers want affordable gaming first and foremost.
All Sony needs is Lightning Speed to succeed as a gaming company. Get its games and services out there as soon as possible.
Damn it Sony, Get rid of the bureaucracy!
Heh, gamers dont care what game it is as long as they are affordable.
Then you insert quality in it & you hook the gamer to keep coming back for more.
If the games have graphics like Uncharted 3 & The Last of Us on PS3 it can last a few more years. This will make games faster to produce but still looking good.
The Wii is proof of this strategy.
If you are an underdog Lightning Speed at affordable price is crucial.
Not implying the PS3 isn't successful. But things that Sony needs to do to have a strong start and beyond the PS4's life cycle.
2. killer launch titles (UC4,KZ4,GOW4,Demon's Souls 2, MGS5,GT6, InFamous 3, etc. then more new ips
3. overhaul xmb, make it faster, or change it completely IMO
4. official alternative to the dualshock (i personally think the ds3 is perfect except for L2,R2) for the 360 fps/cod fragheads that play shooters 24/7
5. KEEP BASIC ONLINE FREE, but KEEP PS PLUS as well -make it more and more attractive w/free games etc, add cross game chat, party chat, 1 click invites, allow games to update AND install in the background
6. Make the system easier to develop for
7. Make Agent and The Last Guardian ps4 launch titles
8. Go back to the ol ps2 commercial days of just showing off the new game instead of an actor
9. get a new advertising dept
10. make getting a platinum trophy something like an avatar or free stuff in the store
PS+ might need a break until things get moving or they'll have to start offering something else in the interim like PS3 games or free movies/music...
Just thinkin out loud, good points though
i also would like them to ditch fps games and stick with games like gow and uncharted and make a hell of a lot of new games like that. also kill reggie and the president of nintendo and buy it out.
I wouldnt be surprised if they used HD-DVD's, make the hardware even more un-bearable and sell it for $600.
the ps3 controller is damn near perfect. amazing for fighting and action games for its precision. Good for shooters and all other games.
just because the 360 controller is prefered for shooters doesn't mean its that versatile.
eitherway this article is silly. people choose what console wins. to me ps3 won, 360 2nd place and wii last.
while others say wii is first although it has the worst software and least good set of games out
I play FIFA, Madden, Fight Night and the 360 pad is better for these games also in my opinion.
No I'm not a 360 or PS3 fanboy I own both consoles and both have the upsides and downsides but overall the 360 pad is better for the games I play (sports and shooters)PS3 pad is better for StreetFighter though
The Wii U isn't even next gen, its a current gen port machine. M$ has shown loyal hardcore gamers they don't give a shit about them, Sony is the only one left offering true next gen experiences for the hardcore by the bucket load.
and that made Sony Billions in sales of Players and licences as well as ancillary sales of HD Tv's.
I really don't know why everyone on the internet has to act like they have been off their meds for about a week?
(please refer to every other comment to what I typed on how to properly reply to someone)
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Sony made the push to have it the "defacto" source of physical HD media because of their Movie studios. Because it had a better security, Sony managed to sway the top tier movie studio's to make it their primary means of movie viewing over HD-DVD. Sony also wanted it in their PS3's as it would be the "Trojan horse" to get blu-ray players in the homes of consumers. It was a win win for sony to help sell MORE PS3's due to it having blu-ray for their 1st party movies on blu-ray.
It has NOTHING to do with licensee fees attained by other companies or corporations to use blu-ray or make blu-ray players. Sony makes very little off of those. Sony's big gain is that blu-ray is the primary means of physical HD movie's which Sony's PS3 has a stock blu-ray player.
Bottom line - Sony was trying to capture the living room by being the one-stop-shop for entertainment with the PS3. However at that time, digital distribution and streaming wasn't a consideration.
"Thanks to prior development of many groups, including, most notably, Professor Isamu Akasaki's group, Shuji Nakamura at Nichia Corporation and Sony Corporation in Anan (Tokushima-ken, Japan) made a series of inventions and developed commercially viable blue and violet semiconductor lasers."
Make no mistake though, Sony was the one that pushed it harder and farther than any other company. Blu-ray had PS3 to help Blu-ray win the format war, PS3 did not have Blu-ray to help PS3 win the console war.
Yeah it cost Sony, but they are looking ahead and physical disk will be around for a lot longer and Blu-ray will be that disk so that in the end, it will make them money.
The inclusion of blu-ray caused delays to the PS3 launch in Europe and increased the price of the console due to the initial high cost of the blu-ray drive. Pluses and minuses for its inclusion.
Great Price, Best out of box/day 1 built console (60gig PS3 is better built than ANY 360 past/present), and awesome hardwear... then they'll be set!
Games and Free Online I think they won't have a problem with carrying over! which already has been a huge driving force for Sony!
P.S. = I've ALWAYS actually liked how Sony has pushed NON gaming features with their consoles as well, they lead that pack with this almost every generation!
Yea like the ability to add Linux to OUR consoles...... oh wait a minute
To say this 6 years later after everything has happened is even more laughable. To this day the 360 has sold more than the PS3. As of today, Sony as a company/devision isn't as healthy as they were prior to 2006. MS in that aspect is and that is all that matters with the companies at the end of the day what their efforts resulted in profit for the company. As far as we go as consumers I just enjoy the games on the platforms I choose to play on.
Finally someone notices that! Sony has some amazing montages at events such as E3 and Gamescom, but they never released them as trailers or ads. Besides, Kevin Butler should return as well, that dude was brilliant.
you honestly think Sony is going to try to sell a 600+ console?
You don't win races by leading the first few laps, and when mid 2013 comes around Sony will be leading.