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5 things PS4 needs to win next gen

GC writes, "PS3 was off to a rocky start. The incredibly high loss on each system was devastating, as was the billions in R&D costs. The launch line-up was lackluster and the $600 “get a second job” price was ludicrous. SONY endured through the billions in losses thanks to initial PS3 madness and has managed to take the brand back to profitability, but in the state their in now they need to of learned from their mistakes. The PS4 needs to be success. We have a few ideas regarding how".

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Jackhass1422d ago

I have a feeling Sony is going to have a nice rebound next generation.

blumatt1422d ago (Edited 1422d ago )

Sony needs a competitive price. $299/399 would be preferable.
They also would benefit greatly from either coming out before Microsoft OR coming out a couple months right after MS.

Keep the online free. That will still serve as a huge reason for people to choose the PS4. Keep PS+ as the premium option for free games and extra services but keep online gaming and cross game chat and a party system ALL FREE.

Other than that we need those network features we were missing on the ps3: cross game chat and a unified party system.

We know their hardware will be great and reliable.

We know the games will be there. Look at all the great games coming out on the PS3 lately and soon to come.

I'm also pretty sure the PS4 will have a new media standard in 4K Blu Ray discs capable of playing 4K movies. The games, for the most part, won't be 4K. Most will be 1080p and 720p. There might be some PSN titles like Stardust HD that do 4K but Uncharted 4 won't be 4K. New Blu Ray discs means even more storage capacity for games and media on the disc. They might finally start selling games and movies together on one disc as an option (e.g. Transformers movie and coinciding game).

We also know that Gaikai will play a big part on the PS4. Cloud steaming of games could eliminate the need for a PS5 anytime soon, possibly allowing for an even longer console cycle.

PS Home is a tricky one. They might axe it due to its niche appeal but they might keep adding to it and make it even more robust with more free games and social experiences.

@reddeaddan. (below)

Free online DOES NOT necessarily equal a poor service. Look at Steam on the PC and pretty much every PC online game. Plus, the PS3 is really only lacking cross game chat and a unified party system. Is that really worth paying for?

Swiggins1422d ago (Edited 1422d ago )

If the PS4 does all of that, then the only reason for me to keep using Xbox will be a couple of games and the controller....and I could always get a modded controller for the PS4 that's shaped like an Xbox Controller

Edit: That's not a slant against the Dualshock, it's an amazing controller, one of the best designed ever, but I just prefer the Xbox controller, fits better in my hands and I like the triggers more, the bad D-Pad doesn't bother me.

It would be beautiful!

-Alpha1422d ago

Yup,

-Humble price
-Humble hardware for devs to work with
-Before Xbox 3
-Strong launch line of old IPs and new
-Good slogan (PSFour + Lots of Four Sequels-- K4, UC4, GoW4, Jak 4, etc)
-Branded, overhauled PSN for free/Gaikai/Home (I think Home is too far in to quit now, and that Gaikai/new hardware will bring out a better potential
-Official, alternate controller for those uncomfortable with Dualshock to really win over the fans that just have trouble

BitbyDeath1422d ago

Don't forget Motorstorm4 XD

THESONYPS31422d ago

Dont forget with Gaikai the PSVita will be pretty ultimate, as we have built the PS4 to take advantage of the PSVita with an expirence the PS3 couldn't match. Also backwards compatability through psstore etc.

SolidStoner1421d ago (Edited 1421d ago )

All I want is a not cheap, but best system on marked possible, It could cost 600$, but it should be damn good with at least 7 year guarantee (to be supported with games). It has to be better then PC (not better then "THE" best PC, but average best home PC) if PS4 is that Im buying it anyway, cost is the last thing I care (I dont have much money if you think Im rich or something, Im not!). If I want cheap gaming or something I could buy X-box, no need to rage, Im not saying that its a bad or cheap console, its very good for its price, and I like any console as long as they have good games on them!

EDIT. I prefer SONY brand only for one reason its Gran Turismo series and other titles only Sony have, so in my case I will buy PS4 anyway, no matter what. I trust them!

b163o11421d ago (Edited 1421d ago )

One feature I would like to see, the ability to download off PSN while I'm playing online. It might seem illegitimate, but it'll be a plus to me.

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FACTUAL evidence1422d ago (Edited 1422d ago )

I would say it needs basic online features of a 360 to even stand a chance for next gen. I will not give Sony my money and wait a decade for a decent feature. almost 7 years in and we don't have voice messaging, nor 1 button notifications? I'm not playing the waiting game next year with sony....I made this mistake once, not doing it again.

In my honest opinion Sony took way too much from us than what they really gave us this gen. A lot of fans try to deny it but they all know it's true. Thank god for the games, but even recently the sequels to half of these games were a disappointment.

I really hope Sony does have a plan for next gen because I have lost faith in them. I used to love ps to the point of collecting every trophy. Now if I bother to turn on my ps, it's for corny ass mw3 for just quick action, or scrolling through the boring xmb looking at my friends list. I'm just tired of MS and Sony...I think I might not even be a gamer next gen the way this is shaping for me.

Rhythmattic1422d ago (Edited 1422d ago )

"I will not give Sony my money and wait a decade for a decent feature. almost 7 years in and we don't have voice messaging, nor 1 button notifications? "

Does this really matter to you on a gaming system? I dont need either to enjoy gaming. Just good damn games is what matters to me.

And for your closing comment, It seems your not actually a gamer "this gen".......

Seraphemz1422d ago

Voice messaging??? How about a "basic" feature like WEB BROWSING...?? The 360 rocked that right out of the box huh?

extermin8or1422d ago

wtf because voice messaging is the be all and end all of whether a device is any good.....

50Terabytespersec1422d ago

If they release GT6 on PS4 then I will surely not buy another Sony product again. why? cause then what? GT 7 on the PS5 lets be real this is BS..

The PS3 is still Amazing and minus the blurry crap visuals GT6 better be coming to PS3!! Same with another Killzone and more Metal Gear Games!

calis1422d ago

There is no reason to think GT7 will be a PS5 game.

blumatt1422d ago

I'd rather they take their time with GT games than try to make three of them on one console like Forza. That's called over-saturation. At least there's been a lot of updates (free) to GT5 since its release.

GT6 as a PS4 launch title would be ideal and would be an amazing launch game.
Just release one GT game per console and give out free updates and more track packs and cars as DLC.

Gwyn-Lord-Of-Cinder1422d ago

im pulling 4 them . i use to be all about xbox untill i saw how much support sony had to the hardcore gamers . they really do desrerve to lead the way this genaration.

andibandit1422d ago (Edited 1422d ago )

Sony seriously needs to shift a couple of gears up this coming generation. Microsoft has already realized that the hardcore gaming market is too small and are now gunning for apple in the battle for the living room. Nintendo struck gold with the casual market and are trying more of the same. Im am a bit worried that sony will get left behind with a smaller hardcore userbase and all the developers will focus on whatever console has the biggest userbase, and ps4 will get a slew of ported games like we did half thru this gen.

WeskerChildReborned1421d ago

Hopefully, i can't wait to see what next gen will look like.

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NastyLeftHook01422d ago

the same 5 things sony did to win this one.

1. exclusive aaa games (uncharted, lbp, infamous, metal gear solid 4, heavy rain, god of war, journey, the last of us ect..

2. reliable hardware

3. free online

4. bluray (maybe 500 gigs( ps4)

5. crossplay.

ReDDeaDDan1422d ago (Edited 1422d ago )

But they didn't win this one. They came dead last.

Free online = Poor service - FACT

EDIT: Online Console service.

BitbyDeath1422d ago

'Free online = Poor service - FACT'

You do realise PC has always been free and is the best online service available?

one2thr1422d ago

@Red
Pc online gaming is free, and it has been a fantastic service for me so far...

**Remember, one does not simply has a better online service just because they paid for it**

Because at the end of each day, and pay period your only giving the company your paying money to, the right to charge you use your OWN BANDWIDTH, and the other 50% of your purchased games that have a multiplayer option... Think about it...

NastyLeftHook01422d ago

im talking from a gamers perspective.

ziggurcat1422d ago

@ reddeaddan:

sure, if you consider hardware sales to be the defining factor, but even then the wii would be the victor. the reality is that the quality of the gaming experience (i frankly don't care about the ability to chat with people while playing a different game or creating a party) has been vastly superior (in my opinion) on the PS3.

so in that respect, i believe sony came out on top.

also, free online =/= poor service. PSN is just fine, i've had zero problems with their service. free online means not having to pay an extra $60 just to play half of the game you already paid $60 for...

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CommonSenseGamer1422d ago

The big winner this generation, like it or not, has to be MS for establishing themselves as a real player in the console gaming market. In terms of market share Sony is this generations biggest loser.

youndamie1422d ago

LOL real player? by abandoning their hard core gamer market?. At the start of the generation I would agree, but as of now Sony is the clear leader.

one2thr1422d ago (Edited 1422d ago )

@Common
Kinect, viva pinata, the game where players can tickle a tiger, a racing game that requires no effort to play, 3 ip's compared to 10 ip's from both nin and sony, RROD(which caused gamers to buy multiple xbox's, so that people can boast about sales figures), lacking HDMI for about 3 years since launch until system revision, doesnt support HD-Dvd's, and its media format is DVD-9 which doesnt have the option to increase storage capacity like regular dvd's, proprietary components; harddrive, memory card, etc., giant non-rechargeable battery looking power supply, scratches its own disk when reoriented, can't copy music, pictures, videos, etc. to various storage devices, doesnt support 1080p, its best selling game wasnt system compatible and went through a series of updates, and it was an exclusive title to that system, and its new exclusive title is a continuation of 1 of the 3 mentioned worth talking about ips, i'll make it 4(counting Alann Wake)....

The list goes on, but why bother....

And MS (Xbox), won this generation how?....

And oh the PS3 was out selling it since launch apparently...

tommygunzII1421d ago (Edited 1421d ago )

In terms of gaming, Xbox customers are the biggest losers lately.

thorstein1422d ago

As everyone knows there were no "winners." Nintendo, Microsoft and SONY all released enormously successful platforms. If you compare sales to the PS2, well, no console has come close to that behemoth.

This gen was solid from the start and is finishing even stronger. But the BS about "winners" or "losers" becomes completely moot once those systems reach 10s of millions of units sold. And as hardware figures go, SONY and MS pale in comparison what Nintendo does. So, sales do not make a solid argument that sales equal quality (see Apple).

AAA Games and Exclusives have been argued to death with the PS3 crowds yelling about the plethora of exclusives and MS crowds screaming that their exclusives have better quality.

Reddead claims that the Free Online for PSN is a poor service and that it is a FACT. Which brings me to the worst part about this generation: fanboys spreading lies about the other system. Online gameplay differs in one aspect between the Xbox and PS: cross game chat. (Note: just talking about online play and NOTHING ELSE). I have heard so many lies about the Xbox and so many lies about the PS3 that if they were all to be believed both systems would have been so bad that neither would ever have been able to play games let alone be connected to a television without blowing up entire city blocks.

Enough with the BS. No one really believes it. You sound like democrats and republicans arguing about which of their guys is better. The only difference is that if you put a room full of PS3s or Xbox360s in a room by themselves they could govern the USA better than the current crop of idiots.

Malice-Flare1422d ago

the important #6 - a big marketing budget with a competent marketing dept...

Treian1422d ago

Sony has never been focused on winning. They have been focused on delivering quality games and entertainment...

JellyJelly1422d ago (Edited 1422d ago )

Yes. Multinational corporations like Sony love losing money. Are you really that gullible? They went into the console business because they saw a market window. Sony took a large market share with the PS1 & PS2 that they have lost most of to MS and Nintendo this gen. Judging by the Vita they aren't doing anything to change their strategy for the better.

Some of you need to drop this childlike mentality towards the gaming business.

wishingW3L1421d ago (Edited 1421d ago )

if they keep delivering then gamers will naturally flock to their systems. Don't you think this is a better business plan for us and for them if it works? Gamers aren't stupid, they will chose the system with the better games. Or at least this is what I think....

Treian1421d ago

hey I am just quoting what one of the sony higher ups said. don't hate.

Blu Ray31422d ago (Edited 1422d ago )

Sony needs to invest in ADVERTISING in the USA to outsell the new MS console.
Ps4 will have cross chat.....GAME OVER:)
Hell,they've beaten them worldwide.
Blu Ray is an amazing perk!!
As long as MS doesn't jump on the bandwagon like they always do.
If Sony can go head to head with MS on the USA advertisement front,they'll have no prob taking back the crown:)

CommonSenseGamer1422d ago

So, is the getting the crown back important or not? The post above yours would suggest its not important to Sony.

Hicken1418d ago

What makes you think they can't do both? Blu Ray3 mentions things that shouldn't at all hinder what blahblah346 quoted. Can they not "get the crown back" by "focusing on delivering quality games and entertainment?"

Seems to me like doing the latter would put you in a good position to do the former.