Criterion Games have made an official statement explaining why Burnout Paradise requires a HDD for full online play on the Xbox 360.
Glad to see they saw didn't try to keep ushing the core model where if it doesn't work, we don't do it [to the other 360 model] Maybe Microsoft will throw in a hard drive. but lawlz @ if Japan [or anywhere] buys the core model and find out they can't play Burnout.
Imagine that someone thought to put a high capacity optical disc and a standard hard drive into every sku. Just in case an ambitious developer needed one or both of them to make their ideal game come true.
@marinelife9 Good one ;)
XBOX 360 has always given gamers "the choice" on enhancing their gameplay experiences. You've had "the choice" if you wanted a high definition movie upgrade to your platform. You've had "the choice" if you want to play your games online with other users or not. You have "the choice" to download demos upon launch, or WAIT B3YOND weeks to download the very same demo that can be downloaded sooner on it's competitor platform. At no surprise, Dark Sniper reveals that XBOX owners, even with the purchase of XBOX Live, have "the choice" on wheather or not he/she wants to play Burnout Paradise by upgrading or not upgrading to an overpriced hard drive. For those who enjoy the online experience and is forced to purchase a hard drive, please note that for the price of a 20GB XBOX hard drive, you can get at least 150 gigs of space to place in your PLAYSTATION® 3 hard drive. Last but not least, all PLAYSTATION® 3 owners regardless of the SKU, are able to enjoy a rich, detailed and superior online service of Burnout Paradise on PLAYSTATION® 3. $niper
You have to factor in the price of the PofS3 as well, that you get no Achievements, No Rumble with the Sixaxis Controller, no custom music and no messaging of friends. Sooo, not really a good experience, so I take it back, keep the Xbox 360 FTW!!! $niper
LOL. I as wondering why I could see your comment as i had him on ignore. Good one, i see the better version has more bubbles and better sense :D
Yea but more disagrees than the original Sniper
for about $60 cheaper I just upgraded my PS3 to a 250GB HDD.
Microsoft please get rid of the core or make it in very limited numbers. As can be seen the harddrive is becoming more important in game development.
that would be futile. MS cant shaft all the exsiting customers, that would be wrong.
Well dev's are starting to shaft them already.
What if someone wants a cheap 360 to do system link? Im getting a core to go in the other room, to link to my current 360, but dont want to spend $400. Core is the way to go if you want two 360's
if i remember correctly they dropped the entire xbox 1 userbase like last weeks diarrhea ... we're talking about MS here
@spandexxxking Sony did it by releasing several different SKU's and price drops. They effed me over by offering first a 60 GB, then a (slightly gimped) 80 GB console for the same price of my one-year-old 20 GB one. So if they can do it, why can't Microsoft? You seem to forget how the electronics industry works: everything becomes outdated within a six month timeframe.
@Yamamato Does your gripe have ANYTHING to do with gameplay? Any Sony game can play IN IT'S ENTIRETY on any PS3 model, regardless of what model or how early you bought it. I have a core 360. If I want to make use of those online features on my Xbox, I can't. Not without buying a HD (which I so far haven't because, (1) if I do get a HD, 20Gb just is not big enough and (2) the next step up is 120Gb, which is WAY too expensive for me right now). I really wish that MS would have either stayed away from the whole propriety thing, given us more options to choose from (100Gb between our only two options is WAY too much dead space), or better yet given us at least a little bit of HD space as standard from the get go. But I'm not gonna cry too much over it 'cause I got a PS3 too (^o^)b
Agreed.. MS get your head out your @ss and end this Core business or cheapen your accessories..dammit
there are tonns of used 20gb HDD for dales at game stops and such, afterall, what r u going to do with your old 20gig after you upgrade. Game retailers should offer you 10 bucks trade in value and then re-sell them for $20, or something to that effect.
iv been many places to by my mate one, still no luck
when i changed my ps3 hdd from 60 to 250. i am using my old hdd in an exturnal enclosure. price 10 15 dollars. and a portable 60 gig hdd.
x360 requires propriety hard drive..$99...but don't qoute me on that, cause I'm not really sure...
Quote him on that... ...cuz it's true.
"We opened a dialogue with Microsoft to attempt to discover a possible solution and all possible technical options were investigated to retain the seamless freedom of Burnout without requiring the HDD. Unfortunately a solution was not available and we decided together that it would be in the best interests of the Burnout community if we require the HDD for full online play." Nice going... I wonder now if this can be applied to any developer now... where they'll make games that require the HDD for data caching or whatever and just leave the poor Core owners SOL. But in any event, kudos to them.
I'm glad Dev's are using the damn HDD for caching. Maybe it'll knock off a few decibels of noise off the worlds loudest dvd drive. I'm sorry, but I paid for an elite, and I expect the dev's to utilize my 120g, seeing how M$ won't let me fill it up with anything else but they're sh*t. If Mass Effect did that, then maybe it would've been a more enjoyable experience, god I got so tired of the textures constantly loading up when I'm playing the game. A quarter of the ending cut-scene was nuthing but shapes, and smeared textures....
There's no excuses,Microshaft f'ed up big time,it's no surprise either;)
Who said a next gen console needs a HDD?! oh thats right... Criterion do.
HAve to agree on this one...the 360 is already starting to show why it was able to get out of the gate early. Because it's a gimped machine. IT might have been able to pull things off until now but games are getting bigger and more complex and the 360 just can't handle it.
it was only a matter of time. an HDD is needed and a blu-ray disk will look like a necessity and a year's time. good thing some companies think of the long run.
I am surprised that all 360s didn't come with a HDD from the start. Microsoft should have followed on from what they had with the original xbox. Mass storage is very important, especially in this day an age.
Who r u and what did you do to Zuhk?
I agree. By doing so they effectively split their market in half. Bad move on their end.
using PS3 as the lead development platform.
thats soo true,
Does this really even matter? I can't believe any serious online gamer has a 360 with no hard drive.