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Submitted by MasonicGamer 846d ago | rumor

Has The PS4 Just Been Shown?

MasonicGamer.com: Reports are in from attendees of this evening’s Metal Gear Solid 25th anniversary event in Japan. The highlight was a new MGS game and that game was Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes. Could we have seen the PS4 in action?

Reports state that

“Just saw stuff we can’t tweet about? Will give impressions later.” & “Demo of “Metal Gear Solid Ground Zeroes”, started w cutscene (all realtime), went into gameplay, open world, night, raining, base. AMAZING”

We reached out to the some of the attendes to find out what was seen..... (Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes, Next-Gen)

Update Gamespot has said: "The demo itself was running on a PC and was played using an Xbox 360 controller. Nothing was spared in terms of detailing and fidelity, from the lighting and shadows during Snake's sneaking bits to the vehicles and character models in motion during the heavy rain. So far the game and its engine was designed with the PS3 and Xbox 360 in mind, but Kojima stated that the engine itself will cater itself for next gen consoles."
http://www.gamespot.com/met...
http://n4g.com/news/1070485...

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wwm0nkey  +   846d ago
From what I understand they showed it on a current gen PC and the target platforms are the current gen systems (PS3/360)
MasonicGamer  +   846d ago
The demo was shown on PC but could this have been a PS4 dev Kit?
TrevorPhillips  +   846d ago
Could've been and not only that, it was running on "Fox Engine".
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jaosobno  +   846d ago
@wwm0nkey

Actually, demo was running on a high end PC and no platforms were mentioned:

http://www.vg247.com/2012/0...

And if the game looks anything like that first released pic, this gen can't pull that off.
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NewMonday  +   846d ago
Konami will demo the high end version for now, they know by the time of release the new consoles will be out, but they will still have a lower version out for PS3 and 360.

the same strategy Ubi are using with marketing Watch Dogs, i think other publishers will do the same, release games on the new consoles and the old.
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thrashermario  +   846d ago
EWW a freemason, STAHP trying to take over the world and enslaving humanity, STAHP!!!!!!!
SynGamer  +   846d ago
Current-gen PCs are WAY better than the PS3 and 360. We're talking almost 7 years in terms of specs evolving. A "current-gen" PC would pretty much destroy the PS3/360 and could easily be close to what the new consoles will have.
aiBreeze  +   846d ago
Wow there is one person (who disagreed) living in denial. Wanna see the difference between current gen consoles and PC? Go compare battlefield 3.
THESONYPS3  +   846d ago
@aiBreeze Crysis one looks better than Battlefield 3, Crysis 3 will blow BF3 away.
JAM_brz  +   846d ago
Rumors suggests that the "PS4/Xbox720" don´t will be as powefull as the current PC we already have today.
But maybe Konami is cheating us and running the new MGS in a PS4. Who knows.
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Raf1k1  +   846d ago
I would love for this to come out on PC. Think of how awesome it would look. Since they were using current gen PC instead of a console it could be they have a PC version in the works with PC specific features.

I'm hoping that's the case but if it isn't I'll be more than happy to get it on PS3.
decrypt  +   846d ago
"A "current-gen" PC would pretty much destroy the PS3/360 and could easily be close to what the new consoles will have."

I think current gen PCs would easily destroy next gen consoles. Reasons are simple, i dont think next gen consoles will be a huge leap.

1. Cost constraints- Both the console makers have learnt their lesson, they know console gamers dont care about graphics, hence investing too much into powerful hardware is a waste of resources and only leads to selling hardware at a loss.

2. Even if they want to pack powerful hardware, they cant. Heat and power requirements on new hardware is significantly higher then what it used to be few years back. They would some how need to defy physics if they are to put a high powered GPU into the contrained box of a console. Also people should consider looking at the kind of PSUs that go into PC to powerup the same graphics cards. The plastic PSUs within consoles would never be able to supply enough power power up a beastly GPU of today.

Console makers would have to significantly increase the sizes of their boxes inorder to improve airflow and accomodate much larger PSUs if they are to increase power significantly. Other wise they will just be looking for RRODs and YLOD to happen.
Dms2012  +   846d ago
Why would anyone disagree with that? It's not even your opinion, its simply a fact. It's like saying that a Nokia phone I had back in 2005 is as good as my Galaxy S Blaze.
Brosy  +   846d ago
@decrypt
Where do you get that console gamers dont care about graphics? Im a console gamer and I care about graphics. What I dont care about is the hassle it takes to be a PC gamer. But I like good graphics just like anyone else. It doesnt take a console as much to have good quality graphics as it does a PC. So the console makers shouldnt have any trouble producing next-gen graphics. You should go watch the Unreal Engine 4 demo, and the newest Star Wars 1313 videos, they look freakin amazing.
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T900  +   846d ago
@cmonbreal

"I agree brosy. I have a PC that can run most current gen PC games just not at their highest settings, and this pc cost me almost 3,000 when i first purchased it a few years back."

This is simply a lie or you got scammed big time. A 700usd PC from 3-4 years back can still play most games out today in 1080p. You can check tomshardware.com they have 500usd builds that play most games out today in 1080p. So i dont see how you could have spent 3000usd and still not able to play maxed out.

Making claims of having to update every year are simply false. You seem more like the people who try to give PC gaming a bad name in regards to costs and upgrades. A properly made PC can easily last 4-5 years with no upgrades and still out play consoles in every game.
one2thr  +   846d ago
@T900
Everything on Pc can be done at 1080p but that doesnt necessarily mean that it'll look good.

Like Fallout New Vegas, I can play it at 1080p(or higher rez) an it still looks like rubbish compared to lets say Heavy Rain which is at 720p.

Whats the sense of bragging about resolutions when some games look like crap?

Games worth playing at 1080:
BF3
Blacklight retribution
LA Noir
GTA4
ARMA
Arkham City
And many more, but not all games played at 1080p look good
Kidmyst  +   846d ago
@T900 he probably bought Alienware, highly overpriced gaming PC's from them can easily cost way more than they should.

But I agree with T900, I build gaming PC's once every 4-5 years and built one for BF3, I go with the best I can afford so all I need to upgrade is the Graphics cards. CPU, Mobo and Ram all at stock setting now but can also be overclocked in case the 4-5 year marks push the PC. But with a Quadcore, 8GB of RAM (can run up to 16GB), Overclockers Mobo,SSD HDD's and a huge power supply. I'm set for a while all for around $1,500 with modding my own case and custom painted it too.
Never buying a PC again, will always build.
hellvaguy  +   846d ago
"current-gen PC would pretty much destroy the PS3/360"

Problem with this statement is that for all the power of pc's, the vast majority of software doesnt maximize its potential because its such a fragmented audience. Adiitionally, windows is a pretty big resource hog too.
Maddens Raiders  +   846d ago
Who cares? If you want to play crappy 3rd party games, a paltry offering of console exclusives, or PC only games get a PC or MS product. If you want to play 1st party Sony exclusives you get a PlayStation. Simple.
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_-EDMIX-_  +   846d ago
Whats even funnier is a "current gen" PC is technically by now a next gen console in terms of tech.
tee_bag242  +   846d ago
Decrypt is on the money with his comment.
The PSU is a dead give away as to what sort of GPU its going to have.
If you want to find out more, find out what PSU its going to have.
Kopite_2020  +   846d ago
I also heard this
DeadlyFire  +   846d ago
I don't see this coming to current gen. Target my ass. Its like Star Wars 1313, and Watch Dogs. I question the game Remember Me as well. They are both Next-gen games, but they have to say they are current gen until the NDA for next gen platforms is gone!

I don't see how PS4 should be the main relevance. It could easily be on Xbox 3 or WiiU hardware as well. Developers can only show their new games on PC hardware because the next gen tech isn't here to show it off.
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wwm0nkey  +   846d ago
Well FOX Engine already runs on PS3 and 360 so if this is running on FOX Engine (which it is) then it can easily come to those platforms.

However I would like for them to hold off until the PS4/720 hit.
DeadlyFire  +   846d ago
I guess I should rephrase that to I don't see this Just coming to this gen. PS3/X360 will get a port of it from newer hardware down to them.

If it was using High end PC to demo the engine. They likely plan for next gen launch of it as well as even Cloud.
MostJadedGamer  +   846d ago
I don't think the PS4 will make it out til 2014. I don't see it coming next year. Though its obvious the 720 will be out next year.
_-EDMIX-_  +   846d ago
? Despite Sony stating they wanted to be first or at least no a year away from MS system?

Buddy, PS4 i can assure you will be announced in 2013 and probably released then too.
RevXM  +   845d ago
@ _-EDMIX-_

Lately they have said that the ps4 will release when the technology can perform a significant leap so the experience will be significantly different.
"The right time to talk about new advances in hardware is when you can demonstrate a significant leap on the current experience, and something that is going to be attractive."
- Andrew House

“We've never been first. We've never been cheapest. It's about being the best”
- Jack Tretton -

With the ps3 being a beast and the vita being a beast, also with these two recent quotes as a good indication that Ps4 wont dissapoint anyone in terms of power and features Id say that ps4 will possibly be the last one out but we will have to wait and see.
TrevorPhillips  +   846d ago
Could be a next gen game, it'll be sweet to see it on the PS4 and 720 though =]
TheLyonKing  +   846d ago
If its a solid title is that not ps4/3 exclusive or is it confirmed for both ms and Sony platform?
wwm0nkey  +   846d ago
No Kojima wants the series to be multi-platform which is why the Fox Engine was being developed as a multi-platform engine in the first place.

Also Sony do not own the copyright to Metal Gear Solid or else there is no way we would have gotten the HD collection on the 360.
TheLyonKing  +   846d ago
@wwm0nkey thanks for the info, didn't know. At least someone gave an answer instead of just disagree.
LOL_WUT  +   846d ago
@ TheLyonKing Well, since the guy demoed the game on PC with a 360 controller then you can pretty much assume its coming out for the Xbox also.
DeadlyFire  +   846d ago
Well Fox engine is multiplatform.
yewles1  +   846d ago
They said it was a PC set to current gen spec.
0pie  +   846d ago
stupid article... dont even click on the link, dont waste your time.
Red_Orange_Juice  +   846d ago
LMAO, how this got approved
Batzi  +   846d ago
!
Fox Engine in its state now is ready for current gen consoles and that was the aim in the first place.
BitbyDeath  +   846d ago
Is strange they'd make an entire new engine for just one game considering they'd have to do it all over again for their nextgen one
Batzi  +   846d ago
ah no. Konami confirmed that they are going to modify the engine for next-gen during the development of the game.
lategamer  +   846d ago
The engine may be scalable like Frostbite 2. We really don't have much information on the engine.
Buljo  +   846d ago
Metal Gear Solid 4 rings a bell? They built an engine solely for that game and unfortunately abandoned it afterwards.
Nicaragua  +   846d ago
Has something which was not shown just been shown - seriously ???

talk about scraping the barrel
AdmiralSnake  +   846d ago
One of these articles already popped up ? OMG, you people don't waste time LMAO.
units  +   846d ago
What a bull shit article
TheKayle  +   846d ago
well fox engine is a scalable engine and for sure they dont wanna lose a year of developing to put it out at the end of a lifecycle.....i didnt expect they could say "yeah it running on xbox 720 or ps4"...they just couldnt ..ms and sony would kill them

so on a pc is more easy....u cant never know what theres inside......and nowday current gen high end pc....mean next gen consoles....or something like that...

i dont expect this game out for ps3 xbox 360...and also coz if xbox cant support all the data of mgs4 ..for sure cant msg5...this is an important franchise and im it will come out close to the next gen release
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yewles1  +   846d ago
Here's a 'possible' clue to ponder on...

"Balestra later Tweeted that his staff had talked production and showed off some of their tools to Kojima."

http://andriasang.com/con1v...
abzdine  +   846d ago
Sony power !
vulcanproject  +   846d ago
You mean PC power? lol
abzdine  +   846d ago
yes Sony Vaio as well if you like ;)
Knight_Crawler  +   846d ago
A Sony vaio laptop can not run Crises 2 on full settings lol.
Adolph Fitler  +   846d ago
Anyone who actually believed Sony would reveal anything behind closed doors on PS4 is kidding themselves.
PS4 will be revealed at a special Sony Playstation event, without doubt.....and when stuff is ready to be shown that will impress, believe you me, they won't be doing it behind closed doors to a selected audience, they will want the WHOLE WORLD to see, as a direct return fire to Wii-U & to possibly beat MS out of the gate.
I don't think Sony nor MS want to screw up what may be there best Xmas ever, especially if price drops happen before hand as rumoured, so they will market hell out of what they already have on offer & wait till maybe early January for a reveal. I think MS will get the jump on Sony again too, but I think that is in Sony's plan, & instead of leaving a 18month grace period for MS to get the sales advantages, they will do it more like the PS1 & Saturn, which launched like within a week of each other here in Australia. That would be the 3rd smartest sales move for Sony, the 2nd being to release as far ahead of MS's new console as possible, the 1st would be to release 1st out of all 3 & surprise attack Nintendo with a PS4 that hits market before Wii-U or around the same time.
pinwheelherman  +   846d ago
We've been hearing for a while that the next-gen PlayStation may drop the custom chips used in precious Sony consoles and move to a more standard configuration of PC parts. Therefore, there's a chance that even if this PC is not an official development kit, it might be based on planned PS4 specs.

That picture is beyond the capabilities of current-gen consoles, and it would be foolish of Konami to hype everyone up with such impressive visuals only to scale them back before release. Talk about a let-down.

We have to imagine that major companies are already working on PS4 and Xbox 720 games, as we're expecting announcements within the next 6-8 months and they need games to showcase. Obviously Konami can't wheel out a box with the words "PS4" stamped on the side, but I'd be surprised if they weren't already developing for it, or at least for PCs based on approximate specifications.
wishingW3L  +   846d ago
that picture is not even real time man... And PS4 may use PC parts but the software is not the same. Just compare a Mac to a Windows PC, both can share the same specs but performance is like night and day.
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DigitalAnalog  +   846d ago
Didn't they something about making an exclusive game for the PS3 Vita cross-play.
It may not be metal gear but a utilization of the engine. I believe the next metal gear may be pushed to next-gen. It's a far better strategy considering Watch Dogs, Star Wars 1313 and other possible titles may pick up the brand new fanbase when the next-gen console releases.
ALLWRONG  +   846d ago
no
NonApplicable  +   846d ago
I'm going to take a wild guess and say it hasn't.
TheFinalEpisode  +   846d ago
Might be current gen... I've noticed that every main MGS game is one of the best or the best looking game for the platform they're in(MGS1-PS1,MGS3-PS2, Peace Walker-PSP and MGS4 is still one of the best looking current-gen console games even though it came out back in 2008). I'm just saying Kojima and his team are a very talented team ahead of a lot of devs today...
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PersonMan  +   846d ago
I dunno man. I don't see how MGS4 is anything special. There are way better games this gen than MGS4.
waltyftm  +   846d ago
Disagree, nothing comes close.
TheFinalEpisode  +   846d ago
For me the graphics are just well done, they are the most realistic graphics out there in terms of character models.

I recently re-played MGS4 when the new patch came out and I was still impressed with the graphics. Maybe it's just a preference thing.
jay2  +   846d ago
Why WOULD you show CURRENT gen console games on a PC these days? they're always run on Dev kits. New consoles start life (and some continue) in computer towers.
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claud3  +   846d ago
Nope, no ps4 appearance. Since the ps4 is only in early stage of production
mechlord  +   846d ago
common sense people...there is no way that a game studio would work their ass off to put out a new engine this late in the cycle, unless they were beta testing it on real games... lotta demos looking way better than Sony 1st parties, that should tell us something. the simple fact that it ran on a current specs pc is a dead giveaway that we re talking about ps4 and the gang
Convas  +   846d ago
Talk about grasping at straws ...
greenpowerz  +   846d ago
That's Pro Sony media for you. I'm telling you this fanbase is like some radical religious fundamentalist group.

Having to update this article must of been embarrassing.
TheKayle  +   846d ago
i totally agree with mechlord

from ign

"The demo itself was running on a PC and was played using an Xbox 360 controller. Nothing was spared in terms of detailing and fidelity, from the lighting and shadows during Snake's sneaking bits to the vehicles and character models in motion during the heavy rain. So far the game and its engine was designed with the PS3 and Xbox 360 in mind, but Kojima stated that the engine itself will cater itself for next gen consoles.

No release date has been announced for this upcoming entry in the Metal Gear series. "

trust in me or there was inside a dev kit of the 720 or was an high end pc....but for sure it will next gen

also for no release date ..in a important event for mgs serie like this....should let u think about

and i add..also crytek engine was build iwth xbox in mind...and also unreal....ecc ecc ecc but all of them will be next..gen....multiplat engines can do this.....specifical engines cant...(see god of war engine coz he use a lots of effect direcly implemented by the cell and not multitask and not gpu engine oriented ..)
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Braid  +   846d ago
I can actually understand the confusion. Console gamers see a game running on a high-end PC, and it impresses the hell out of them. Not knowing it's actually running on PC, they just go out and start shouting "brace yourselves, the next-gen is coming!"

It's quite normal actually, as they usually choose to overlook the fact that there is a HUGE gap between the current-gen consoles and high-end PCs, and most of them are not even aware that 90% of the games are sub-hd on consoles, not even 720p in native resolution. When they see a game running on 1080p with extreme details, they just can't see it running on a current-gen console, the only reasonable argument they can come up with is a "next gen console" at that point.

That's actually true though, as the next-gen consoles will basically be high-end PCs that can render 1080p games at high detail. But let it known: there are actually PCs out there, you know, gaming machines other than consoles, that can do wonders if you have the right components. That being said, we don't know the platforms yet. The game may NEVER be released on PC, as most of the developers choose the PCs to showcase their games and then they release a game which looks nothing like what they show. I still remember the first MGS4 footage looking a lot better than actual in-game graphics, and if it's going for a current-gen release, some details may be lost in optimization. (On a side note: the same goes for the Watch Dogs, if it's going to be released on PS3/360, we just need to forget about what they showed us.)

Let's just wait for PAX or TGS before making assumptions, they'll probably show us the same demo somewhere in the near future.
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cedaridge  +   846d ago
I feel we are getting closer to the next gen consoles. Time to start saving for the ps4 and xbox 720.
Punch-o  +   846d ago
I really don't care if it's exclusive or not. But lets not forget the original MGS4 Footage was also done on PC.

http://youtu.be/Jcfx3wkYUXw
Batzi  +   845d ago
That was real-time on PS3 man and Kojima proved it.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Straightupbeastly  +   846d ago
With more focus on xbox360 look they even used the controller . Early dlc?
mechlord  +   845d ago
ill translate the disagrees u got for you: MS did the drivers for their console available on pc because they do both consoles and pc; sony and ninty never bothered because they dont do pc. what you could infer from that is not xbox preference but possibly console versions...which is a dumb assumption to make because its not an assumption.
Dreamer09  +   846d ago
Ahh running on PC :D
So that means the actual Playstation version will look worse?
BigStef71  +   846d ago
Keep dreaming!!! The PlayStation console will be the lead platform for this game
Dreamer09  +   846d ago
You keep dreaming. You've already contradicted yourself. It's being built on PC. It was shown running on PC Tech. You still think the PS3.5 will be generations ahead. But the PC will already be 5 to 7 years ahead when it's released. Consoles will always be behind. You get what you pay for...... Lmao!
BigStef71  +   846d ago
How did I contradict myself? I know it was running on a pc but that could be the ps4 dev kit for all we know. Obviously Sony wouldn't flat out let konami and kojima productions say what system it was for cuz they want to show it at a sony press event. Till when announced what system it is then it's all speculation. Also I would take paying for a console once and having it for 10 years with great games any day than have to buy a new pc every two years for thousands of dollars just so I can run a game at ultra settings.
Batzi  +   845d ago
Fox Engine was created so that no version will look better than the other. They clearly stated it was running on a PC with "current-gen" specs meaning that the PC it was running on was limited to what the PS3/360 can accomplish. All versions of the game should be identical.
BigStef71  +   845d ago
Yea well pc current gen specs are a lot more powerful than the ps3 and 360 specs. I'm still going with the playstation console as the lead. U guys can argue all u want but all of Kojimas mgs games have been started from the ground up on playstation. What makes u think it will not be the same for this game?

Whatever the outcome is 360 owners can look forward to having to change the disc 5 or more times. If mgs4 wasn't even possible on 360 how the hell would this game be if the new one is gonna be a bigger game overall and be open world
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josephayal  +   846d ago
I THINK The PS4 is like a NASA Super High End PC, just like curiosity
Ingram  +   846d ago
Why do you always have to say the dumbest things dude?
Jazz4108  +   846d ago
With Konami never doing something without a meaning I believe its obvious by showing this on pc with a 360 controller that the pc and 360 or 720 and of course sony will have this game.
DivineAssault  +   846d ago
I love the fact that devs are putting pressure on MS & Sony to get rolling with the nx gen tech.. These tech demos being shown are a taste of whats to come on nx gen consoles.. Sure PC will always be mightier if the money is spent to keep it up but games being developed will be optimized for home console builds to reach the mass market.. Hopefully theyre shown nx E3 & released @ the end of that year or spring of the next.. I want PS4 already!
sharkraiden0  +   846d ago
DAMNIT another bigboss game? even peace walker prequel what is this!?...
Kratos_Thy_God  +   846d ago
seriously wtf. Kojima should consider remaking mgs1 for ps4.
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