Kotaku: The man behind vehicular shooter Twisted Metal, David Jaffe, recently fired back with with a nigh perfect response to Shigeru Miyamoto's question "Why would you make that? Why would you put a gun on a car?"
It just goes to show logic doesn't pay in Nintendo world. In Nintendo world they can do no wrong. In Nintendo world Miyamoto is God in the flesh. In reality, he's a Hitler. Miyamoto is a damn liar and he's gotten away with rape and murder for years and years in the videogame industry. He's had his way with every good idea from every good developer and no one ever questions if he had inspiration in doing the **** he does. Pikmen is a glorified Lemmings... Sorry, folks. Mario Galaxy... Like it, love it or hate it... Had much inspiration from R&C. Animal Crossing was the sims for kids. I can go on and on and on some more. He is not as talented or as ingenuous as you people like to think and anyone who thinks he never played R&C is a damn fool. More so cause just 2 years prior I have a picture of him playing Jak 3 at E-3, while Jason Rubins sits idle watching him play. You mean to tell me he's heard of Jak, Crash and Spyro but not R&C... ? Please.
Awesome post, ill give you a bubble.
Kohler: Apparently when Miyamoto first went to Retro Studios, they were making a car combat game, he said, "Why would you make that? Why would you put a gun on a car?" And they stopped development on the game. So maybe you should answer that question. Why would you put a gun on a car? Jaffe: You know, honestly, I've been too busy recently trying to figure out why the f~ck go-karts shoot banana peels. I'm not gonna lie, that's some major pwnage handed by Jaffe to Miyamoto. Even though I enjoy both their games. :)
I give you the post of the month on that one, that was great.
@gamesblow. you're quite braindead. here's a cookie.
super mario world 2: yoshis island already did the galaxy concept. R&C ? Sonic adventures 2 is more realistic
dude, great post!!! i totally agree with u
My favorite developer ever just made history again. I personally dont like him cursing too much but like he said, that's just the way he was brought up. I mean he could try to change but hey, thats up to the man. This is what I feared might happen if Nintendo wins this generation. I don't care who, Microsoft or Sony, Please do something to take back your lead Recently Miyamoto has been somewhat downplaying the other developers such as Insomniac by saying that he has never heard of Ratchet and Clank ?!?! Was he serious ? I mean come on now...
I actually remember that becuase Insomniac had already made a game where you walk around planets, I thought that was disrespectful.
inspired by rachet-n-clank's spherical world. like miyamoto somehow copied them. but if you want to get technical, this was done before with sonic. so miyamoto wasn't insulting imsomniac by saying he never heard of rachet n clank (hey, i didn't even hear about fallout until fallout3 got announced for 360/ps3) imsomniac set themselves up for a smackdown on that one.
I disagree. Inspiration is not the same as copying them. What Insomniac actually said was that they would be honored if SMG was inspired by their games. The notion that Miyamoto didn't know what R&C was is ridiculous. R&C is one of the franchises that helped PS2 lay the smackdown on GC last gen. Quite simply Miyamoto lied to make R&C seem insignificant. I can respect the man's achievements in gaming but character-wise he's just petty.
Wait, there is a picture of Miyamoto playing Jak and Daxter but he has never heard of R&C - his claim. The guy is a liar. He is so smug and self righteous he can't admit some round eye inspired him...to run that omne character into the ground. If someone lacks creativity it is Miyamoto.
I would like to see a new Mature IP from Miyamoto that does not have to do with one of his trademark icons.
You've got that right man.
yes they've made great games for years but its time they tried something new. all the really good games are either Mario or Zelda. i'm tired of both those franchises. i don't wanna play another Mario game for the rest of my life, no matter how good it is. as time passes and we get older, some things just don't appeal to me the way they used to. Nintendo games is one of those things.
decApitator, you're right, MS or Sony win i don't care, just not Nintendo, with Miyamoto already insulting Insomniac. Insomniac will be better than they ever will be, i don't care what other people say. Good job Jaffe. Tell him off. Make a video of Kratos owning Mario or something.
Keep waiting because i'm pretty sure you won't see one anytime soon. Why break from your breadwinners?
Why would put a gun on a car? Why would you put a plumber in space?
LMAO , I would give a bub if I could but I already have.
Those black holes need unclogging.
Thats just wrong.
lol. very logical question. bubbles for you my friend.
Haha, you made my day.
Yo bubbles man. Screw Miyamoto. He prob can't make a great game without a plumber in it. This year is 360's and ps3's year.
I don't see eye to eye with Jaffe in terms of game designs, but he does what he loves and creates what he envisions which is a very respectable quality. However I admit, the comment about the banana peel, and this response to the Nintendo fans up in arms over that comment is quite spectacular and it's true. I thought it was funny and for not a moment did I get the impression he was backhanding Miyamoto or the Mario Kart series.
I LOVE Jaffe! He always speaks his mind and is right probably 100% of the time. He reminds me of Patton Oswalt during that video. Hilarious.
Nah, not even close; but it's Jaffe an we love him... well a lot of us do anyways.. I think :P
It's good when people can defend themselves against the hordes of senseless internet fankids.
PWNED!!!!!!!!!!!! NIce one AZures.
weird i read kotaku and most of them supported Jeff. Those nintendo fanboys that got annoyed about it need to swim in winter altantic ocean just to cool themselves off man. Seriously It's not something to get annoy with.
Miyamoto is a retard that I have no respect for.
I gotta disagree with you. The landscape of videogames today was set by nintendo and the game Miyamoto created. While his design is getting rather old his place in videogame history should never be taken for granted.
I respect him as a video game developer, but as a person, he comes off as a schmuck. He always seems to downplay the success of others as if it's nothing compared to what he's done. Which in the opinion of some, is deserved. Maybe in reality he's a good guy, but he just seems to come off as a hypocrite.
I respect Miyamoto very much and think he's a legend but sometimes he acts like an ass, and he's always so arrogant. Saying we never copy we always invent is a huge insult to allot of other talented people in the industry cause maybe you don't copy but you get inspired by other games, want proof "Wii Fit" is hugely inspired by "Eye Toy Kinetic" some exercises are even identical and guess what Sony has a picture of Mayamoto playing it in E3 2005. And no Miyamoto you didn't nail 2 players mood in SMG, it sucks the 2nd player gets board to death. Al in all I respect his games and visions and always will.
Every time I see Jaffe the more I like him he's what the gaming industry should be.
this dude has 'tude, man and i dig the stuff he's made. twisted metal is great and i can't wait for it to make the leap to this generation. miyamoto is cool too, but that does'nt make him right all the time.
The F*ck does this 2 minute video take FOREVER to frickin download, Jesus H!!!
agreed- heres a bubble for you
Its one of those you have to pause and let marinate for a couple minutes then it should play smoothly.
Haha, I thought his response to the "gun on cars" remark was funny. Good video.
Ah! He's one of those crazy people on youtube I can't stand Does anyone care about Jaffe anymore? "He" made a good game like what 3 years ago
When's the last time you made a good game?
At least Jaffe's not some arrogant prick pretending he doesn't know what Ratchet & Clank is. "What is that a PC game?" - Miyamoto I've lost respect for the old man.
when is the last time Miyamoto made a new IP?
The industry needs more guys like this.
hey he had a wii controller and a 360 one, wheres the ps3 pad...!! lol
It's assumed he has 16 PS3's.
the only reason Jaffe made the amazing God of War on PS2 was because he was paid to. If he had a choice, he would have chosen xbox. and now all the PS3rd fanboys can see that Jaffe is a diehard Wii60 fan, and doesn't even have a PS3 controller in his gaming room LOLOOOLLLOLlOOL
sometimes i wonder if people have a sense of humor anymore, i think its been replaced with cod4 online you can only have one or the other: so which is it a sense of humor or cod4 online lol.
are you 6 year old?? go home and cry to your mom
Keep it real again.
I love the man and all, its just that at not one point do i see him giving respect to certain developers, such as questioning the existence of Ratchet and Clank or how he said "Why put guns on cars"...its just that he has to understand not everybody wants to make a game about a plumber saving the same princess for the last 20 years or so. Many developers respect Miyamoto, but i dont think it goes the other way around that much.
jaffe pwns so does his games!
As much as I once respected Miyamoto...that was just uncalled for. Jaffe made a joke and Miyamoto took it too far. I'm with Jaffe and Ted Price and Hideki Itsuno...and all the other great new developers. At least they're being original...
This niggas thuged out!
Jaffe seems to have this inate nack for pwning. I think it's cause he doesn't really try to do it but cause of his personality he jsut ends up pwning guys all the time. He did it like 2 or 3 times to 1UP last year. It was beautiful.
Indeed, Its easy for em to pwn devs that always develop for such a young age range. Jaffe develops for a more Mature audience and he matches personality wise to those who would like his games.Because he makes games he would like, Good Man.
I love Jaffe and Miyamoto! but miyamoto just GOTPWNED!!!!!!!!
why two disagrees? did Miyamoto-san just NOT GETPWNED? Because, I have extensive PWNING experience enough to know when someone just GOTPWNED. and Miyamoto just GOTPWNED, and HARD. But that doesn't mean he's any less the god of all that is gaming. He is god, and Jaffe is his son Jesus.
You scare me. Not.
i noticed he had a WII and a 360.. wheres the PS3? where is the PS3.. (weird cause twisted metal has always been on the PS) and i had no trouble with video loads.. i dunno what was up when the people above me watched it but i guess at 12am its a lil less crowded on the net :-)
Its assumed he has several PS remotes laying around, some fans from the initial insanity were saying its just because Jaffe hates Nintendo and probably Xbox and they called him a few Sony names.
at how someone could take offense to his quote. i mean, Miyamoto is in fact, *LIMITING his developers by asking "why would you put a gun on a car?" when he should have been asking "why *WOULDN'T YOU put a gun on a car?" the truth of the matter is that you put a gun on a car because it's a *FUN GAMEPLAY MECHANIC. the truth of the matter is that you make a Go-Kart use banana peels as a weapon because it's a *FUN GAMEPLAY MECHANIC. when you have the grandfather of video games questioning gameplay mechanics that are, in truth *FUN, then you have a problem. yes, Miyamoto *DEFINED gaming from the mid 80's to the mid 90's, but *KEN KUTARAGI defined gaming from the mid 90's to the present day. Miyamoto is the grandfather of video games, but Kutaragi is the father of *MODERN VIDEO GAMES. looking at the way the market *COMPLETELY CHANGED after the launch of the original Playstation in 1995, it's hard to argue that Kutaragi's box shaped the way people (and in particular the mass market and mainstream), view video games. people started taking gaming *SERIOUSLY after the PS1 hit. before that, during the 80's and 90's, it was viewed as mostly a kids hobby. now you have celebrities bragging about how many X Box games they have. during the "Nintendo era" of gaming, did you hear that type of thing? *NO. i grew up with Nintendo. i grew up with Miyamoto games, but to hold this guy at an untouchable standard is simply foolish. numerous developers have shaped the industry in significant ways, and often, in ways greater than Miyamoto. i mean, i love the guy, but he's the man who's games have starred the same Italian plumber for 20+ years! Jaffe's comment *WAS funny, and it wasn't meant as a dig at Miyamoto, but simply a witty comeback to a foolish question, really. "why put a gun on a car?" please. because it's fun. just because Miyamoto is the one asking the foolish question doesn't make it any less foolish.
But Miyamoto is certainly no fool, either. He's Nintendo's man, and Atari would've destroyed the video game industry if it weren't for Nintendo. It's just preference. Miyamoto may make an extensive amount of Mario games aimed towards a general audience, but he has plenty of non-Mario games under his belt that have stood the test of time, such as the Zelda series, F-Zero series, Star Fox series, Wave Race, and is credited on other great games, such as Eternal Darkness. Without Miyamoto, I don't think Nintendo would've had the success they've had. And without that success, who knows where the video game industry would be right now. In that regard, I have the utmost respect for Miyamoto, a man who stays true to himself and his vision. On the flip side, I love Jaffe. He just has a different vision. I love his outspoken persona. He tells it like it is and is fun to listen to. If people don't like it, tough. He has the balls to stick up for himself, which is rare in the industry. Not without consequences, anyway. The problem with the internet, and pretty much the world, is that everyone's quick to give their opinion, but they don't want to respect anyone else's. Nobody has anything intelligent to say these days. YouTube comments, and much of this site, are testimony to that. How many of us can sit in front of a webcam and flame fanboys? I know I can't. But Jaffe can.
I agree with you %100, I was actually thinking for a while now to write in my log about the 2 legends and how they completed the work on video games 'til it reached the point we see now. For some reason I just remembered Miyamoto after the "Haze" trailer on the last E3 talking about how he dosen't like drugs in video games. I paused for a minuet and said to my self "Then why the hell are you feeding it to your plummer (Mario)in every game (Mushrooms and unidentified stars)" lol.
Funny how riled up people got over this little joke. Jaffe is great to listen to
I find his insulting of him hypocritical. The reason that Miyamoto made such remarks about putting weapons on guns is because of the way he was raised (much like how he raised around cursing). He was raised in a very protective family and wasn't subjugated to the same lifestyle we were and wouldn't never even conceive an idea like that. I'm sure all of us are desensitized to specific things that others aren't, he had a very vivid imagination and would rather see things in a more childish and family friendly way. But at the same time... he did make a game about a drug addicted plumber killing nazis. I guess I just wanted Jaffe to be the bigger man and say something about difference of opinions make for different and varied games. Some people like realism and seeing things go boom, others like funny noises and banana peels. Still funny what he said though.