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Beyond Two Souls Should Only Be Played “Once And Don’t Replay It”, according to David Cage

David Cage, creator of Quantic Dream’s Heavy Rain, has stressed that Quantic Dream’s next project, Beyond: Two Souls, is all about the choices made by the player and that multiple playthroughs will defeat the meaning and the consequence of the initial overall decision process.

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Snookies121343d ago

Well, I think it should be played once and saved for a very long time before going back through. Heavy Rain seemed like a one and done type deal as well, but after beating it a long while back I recently bought it again to play through.

BiggCMan1343d ago

Ha, not for me it wasn't. I beat Heavy Rain about 6 full times inside 2 weeks to see how different it could be. Got platinum trophy in those 2 weeks as well. I haven't been that glued to a game since MGS4.

Blackpool1343d ago

lmao, he got disagrees just for saying that.

SAE1343d ago

i love heavy rain , let's see if they will disagree on that fact >,< ...

knowyourstuff1343d ago

lol @ above ^

If you live always caring if people can anonymously troll the internet and disagree with you, you won't get much done.

vickers5001343d ago (Edited 1343d ago )

@BlackPool, IDeath489

Many people here at n4g look at the comments section as a conversation. When someone says "I love Heavy Rain", the people that click the disagree button on you aren't saying "no you don't", they're basically saying "Well, personally, I don't". People disagreeing with his comment are basically saying "I didn't beat it that many times".

The fact that you and many others STILL haven't figured this out yet makes me sad for some of you.

SAE1343d ago (Edited 1343d ago )

Then they shouldn't disagree , because the comment says i that refer to the writer , so it is a fact that you can't disagree on it XD

disagree is for saying something wrong or bad , no need to disagree for something like that even if it's a conversation , just say your opinion like saying i didn't enjoy heavy rain , it's more like hating me because i like a game , it's not a wrong thing to disagree on it .

the Agree and Disagree thing shouldn't be used all the time .
well , that's how i see it , maybe im wrong .....

Here is an example : imagine yourself in a restaurant , you said to the cooker to make you a cheese burger suddenly he scream at you " i Disagree!!' just because he doesn't like it , you see what i'm saying lol ...

Campy da Camper1343d ago

People think the disagree button means something that it is not. I take it as, if I don't agree with the statement AS IT APPLIES TO MY LIFE, then I click it.

In this case, I wasn't nearly as glued to HR as I was to MGS4 and I only played it once, not 6 times. So, when I read your statement I disagreed. For me, there is no Heavy Rain plat, I only played it once and MGS4 held my attention MUCH greater than Heavy Rain.

I was not saying that you are wrong about your statement as it applies to your life but rather it is simply untrue in mine.

Army_of_Darkness1343d ago

I just disagreed cause I didn't do what you did;-) lol!

ArronC071343d ago

I use disagree in order to wind up the writer of the post. I think most people would agree with me if they're honest, of course now I've said that most people will disagree with me in order to make a point, but now that I've said that most people will agree with me in order to not make me right- rinse and repeat.

mananimal1343d ago

@ BiggCMan & Blackpool

Just goes to show you how "insane" & narcisstic the average person is, if your opinion doesnt agree with them, its viewed as a negative, hence all the "Disagree's", cause someone is different in there approach or taste to playing a VIDEOGAME, lol. gee whiz people.

But yes I generally agree with the idea, this type of game would be 1 & done, at least for a long while, like some stated already...but thats just me, not someone else, NOR is there a RIGHT or WRONG choice here, just different, nothing WRONG with that.

vickers5001343d ago (Edited 1343d ago )

"just say your opinion like saying i didn't enjoy heavy rain"

There's no need, that's what the disagree button is for. It's kind of a waste of a comment/time to type that out, rather than simply click on a button.

So instead of getting upset over something so insignificant, which might not even be what you think it is, just think to yourself, "Hmm, not ALL of them might be trolling me, some might just be treating this as a conversation and chiming in their opinion with a click of a button instead of a wasted comment", a comment which, on this site, will direct tons of unwanted and hateful replies towards them.

You ever see those comments in articles that say "well personally, I don't like this game"? Ever tend to notice how the replies go? They NEVER get the "I disagree with you, but I respect your opinion of not liking this game". No, the comments are always more along the lines of "then why the hell are you commenting on this?/why are you here then".

Can you really blame someone for choosing the anonymity and simplicity of choosing to click a button rather than type out comment which is just going to paint a target on them?

b163o11343d ago

People writing paragraphs on a disagree button...

x5exotic1343d ago

@Blackpool

It's called a disagree button, not a fuck you button...when people disagree, it means they...disagree.

So don't get butthurt

pixelsword1342d ago

I'm just glad I have the opportunity to play Beyond: Two Souls. :D

EVILDEAD3601342d ago (Edited 1342d ago )

If they are crafting the game anywhere like they have Indigo Prophecy and Heavy Rain then I completely understand where he's coming from.

These games are meant to be experienced once..but some people will replay to see the choices.

Even with one time, they are definately great experiences.

I beat Heavy Rain and thought I'd do it over and over, but just ended up reading about the other choices as it essentially was the same.

It'll be interesting to see if Beyond even gets a release date for 2013. It's more likely going to be pushed into first quarter 2014 as to not compete with a Fall/Holiday release of 'Last of Us'.

Evil

Sony3601342d ago

The agree/disagree buttons should just be removed. They're abused and not used for what they're meant to be.

Dee_911342d ago (Edited 1342d ago )

@vickers obviously your use for the agreee/disagre buttons are just that,yours.Theres nothing to "get".Its not put anywhere on this site in print what the agree/disagree button is actually meant for.
I for one think your reasoning for disagreeing and agreeing is dumb tbh.Im not gonna disagree with someone personal experience because theres nothing to disagree with.A personal experience isnt an opinion as your trying to make it seem.I dont agree with personal experiences either but thats just me , I can understand why some would.I never disagree without leaving an explanation.Hence this response

OT
I dont think he is saying it has no replay value.But that your decision should be final.But ofcourse us being gamers we will play it over and over.

FACTUAL evidence1342d ago

well if Cage said this, then that shows the replay value in this title..

vickers5001342d ago (Edited 1342d ago )

"@vickers obviously your use for the agreee/disagre buttons are just that,yours.Theres nothing to "get".Its not put anywhere on this site in print what the agree/disagree button is actually meant for."

Just mine? What about the 31 people who agreed with my comment, along with those few who outright stated that they agreed with what I said? Obviously the way I use the disagree button isn't "just mine", it's many other peoples use as well. And no, it's not put on this site what its actually meant for, but you shouldn't assume that every type of comment like that that gets disagrees is simply a troll disagree.

Some people just simply take whatever they read and apply it to themselves, and click agree/disagree accordingly. It would be stupid to assume all or most of disagrees to those types of comments are simply just troll comments, I mean I know there are a lot of trolls out there, but there aren't THAT many.

@b63o1

Lol, yeah, I know it's pretty sad, but I just find it really annoying when people get so butthurt and insecure when someone disagrees with their comment. As x5exotic put it so well, it's a disagree button, not a fuck you button.

I shouldn't have even needed to explain that, most people should already know this stuff.

TheLastGuardian1342d ago

I got the platinum trophy in 4 days. I was absolutely hooked on Heavy Rain. I feel like replaying it soon. I'm really looking forward to Beyond: Two Souls.

BrutallyBlunt1342d ago

$60 is a lot to ask for from gamers who may finish the game in less than 20 hours and be done with it. Especially when the gaming industry whines about the used game market and the rental market.

I like the fact David Cage tries to offer something different but he needs to be careful and not and try and create what was considered an entertainment medium now as art and a one time experience.

BattleAxe1342d ago

Trophy:

BLING!....."I Told You Not To Play This Twice"

Dee_911342d ago (Edited 1342d ago )

@vickers500
okay so you can show me where exactly its written in the rules that thats how the agree/disagree system works right? because that was my point if you missed it.
But you cant because thats NOT how it works.You can make up what ever reason but there is no real reason.So like I said theres nothing to "get",people use it how they will use it because there are no rules regarding how to use it.

Bringing up the amount of agrees you got is completely beyond the point.And the fact that you didnt mention all of the disagrees you got makes mentioning your agrees even that much more pointless.I dont care if people agree with you but its not a fact therefor its not something people should "get" over time like you implied we should.

Where did I mention the only people who disagree are trolls?Did I even mention trolls? Like I said people will have there own reasons to disagree because there is no rules on what its for and therefor a pointless feature in my opinion until they either explain what the function is really for or make you have to reply in order to disagree.

I dont get "butthurt" over a disagree because in my opinion its a pointless feature.The thing that annoys me about the system is how much everyone cares about it.How in every article the pro ps3 comments gets millions of agrees and then someone bring up how sony biased this site is.It shouldnt be like that.Either give it rules or remove it.

Getowned1342d ago

Why do we even need an agree and disagree system, it's kind of silly. If you disagree with someone state why and provided evidence. This agree and disagree system only encourage trolling and is really not needed. I would actually like to see it removed someday. A reply to a comment is a much more powerful way of agreeing/disagreeing with someone. on N4G i've found agrees and disagree are really abused and mean nothing, it will only bother you if you let it.

MysticStrummer1342d ago

@vickers - Sure, not all disagrees here are trolling, but it's a safe bet that many of them are. Go ahead and state a fact, not an opinion, and see what happens here. You can post a fact with links for references and still get disagrees.

Disagree with an opinion all you want ( BF>CoD ), but disagreeing with someone's personal experience ( I loved Heavy Rain ) or a concrete fact ( Fallout 3 sold x copies ) is just stupid, not a "conversation".

vickers5001342d ago

"@vickers500
okay so you can show me where exactly its written in the rules that thats how the agree/disagree system works right? because that was my point if you missed it."

You must not have expressed yourself clearly enough, because that's not what I got from your comment

"So like I said theres nothing to "get",people use it how they will use it because there are no rules regarding how to use it."

People should "get" both possible reasons for someone disagreeing with them, instead of instantly thinking "troll". They should (if they aren't morons) consider the many different reasons for the disagrees they get, instead of just jumping to the "whoever is disagreeing with me is just a troll".

"Bringing up the amount of agrees you got is completely beyond the point."

The point of me bringing up the amount of agrees I got was to prove to you that I am not the only one who sees the disagree system in that way, so when you said "it's just yours", you are wrong. It's not everyones, but it's not just mine, so techincally, AS I STATED IT (as in SOME people see it that way) it IS a fact.

"Like I said people will have there own reasons to disagree because there is no rules on what its for and therefor a pointless feature in my opinion"

You're right, it is a pointless feature. My whole point in this, everything I've said in my comments so far boils down to "chill the fuck out, not every single disagree you get is meant to fuck with you". That's it. That's the simplest version of what I'm trying to say. If you don't get butthurt over a disagree then good for you, you're not the person I'm speaking to. I'm speaking to the people who, at the first sight of a few disagrees, automatically assume that it's a troll.

@MysticStrummer
I never said "none of them" are troll disagrees, some definitely are, I just think people massively overestimate the amount of troll disagrees they're actually getting. Lets say you state a fact, something like (idk if this is true or not) "PS3 sold 5 million units last year". Now if that comment gets disagrees (provided it's true), then yeah, I'll agree that any disagrees it gets are simply trolls.

But if it's a comment like "I loved Heavy Rain" then people look at that comment differently, and use the disagree button as their way of saying "I don't". There's nothing stupid about it. It's just a way of perceiving a comment on the internet. Whenever you are having a conversation with someone, you take whatever they say and apply it to yourself and form a sentence to tell back to them. That's simply what people do with the disagree button here on n4g, rather than write out a hate inducing waste of time comment.

Revolver_X_1342d ago

What a completely off topic wall of text.
@Vickers lets equate the agree/disagree button to real life. I say I love Heavy Rain to someone, and you standing next to me chimes in and says, I disagree. However you mean it, its an A$$hole comment. Its you adding in your unwanted 2 cents. In essence even the way you meant it is a form of trolling.

@Dmarc Dilusional comments like that makes you a completely uncredible fanboy. Oh N4G is crawling with Sony fanboys, but when you criticise Sony you get a million disagrees. I've seen quite the contrary in the past few weeks. Its a two way street here. Everyone points the finger at everyone else. Quit trollin, N4G sux like it always has.

Dmarc11342d ago

@Revolver_X_ your reading comprehension skills must be piss poor.

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joab7771343d ago

Can u sell it for the price of a blue ray then? Because I don't like spending $60 on something I play once. Or we set up a site and pass it around. Even the best movies I wouldn't pay $60 for. I am still psyched about this and believe this type of game is needed right now, but don't tell us it should only b played once. Keep it to yourself. Especially since it's untrue. We were supposed to play heavy rain once and let the story just play itself out.

If this is really the case and u really want everyone to enjoy the story, do not release trophies or guides until 1-2 weeks after it releases. Yeah, it may effect initial sales but it will still sell the same. But, it will allow people to enjoy it the way it's supposed to. I know this because when I saw the trophies for heavy rain, I knew I couldn't just play it, I had to play it a very particular way.

Hellsvacancy1343d ago

I know right, its like hes telling people to rent or borrow his game, way to go Dave

I shall buy it, and play it many times

HeavenlySnipes1343d ago

How many times did you play the GOW games? Single player only but well worth $60. Maybe after a playthrough you'll be satisfied with how you had the game turn out for you

Brosy1342d ago

The developer obviously wants people to rent his game instead of buy it, is how it sounds to me.

Anon19741343d ago

I hate multiple endings. Cheapens the experience for me. I like to have one, well thought out, complete story told from beginning to end and that's it. For me, multiple endings dilutes the impact that a single, strong ending would achieve. I feel the same way about multiple endings on movies I buy. Extra scenes, I'm all in, but alt scenes, alt endings - just takes away from the experience.

nukeitall1343d ago

I can kind of see that, but I loved it in ME. If there are multiple endings, it better damn well be because I made significant different choices.

Otherwise as you say, it cheapens the experience!

DeadlyFire1343d ago

He is challenging us to not play it more than once. Is it that damn good? He thinks so. I wanna see.

TCG_Returns1343d ago (Edited 1343d ago )

What Cage meant, as he said the same thing with Heavy Rain, was not play the game once and never play again.But play through the story once,full through, without going back to old saves to change something you regret doing.

Typical N4G readers.Glance at the headline and make stupid assumptions.Such braindead idiots.

Irishguy951343d ago

Well, thanks Dave, i'll rent it

Jazz41081343d ago (Edited 1343d ago )

If i want to goto the movies I will pay 10.00 instead of 60.00. When i play a game at home I dont want to watch cutscenes that our longer than the game. I am all for a good story in a game but with this game its about death and what happens. The simple answer is no one alive knows and that includes Cage and watching a bunch of cutscenes on his opinion of death or chasing a little balloon carrying kid around a mall and frantically yelling his name is not my idea of gaming but some people like it. I just prefer to pay alot less and watch a movie then play/watch Cages works of fiction. This is my opinion.

colonel1791343d ago

To only be played once and don't replay it....

Gold Trophy: Unlock all endings

fermcr1342d ago

"Beyond Two Souls Should Only Be Played “Once And Don’t Replay It”, according to David Cage"

Then they should allow players to win all trophies with one playthrough... otherwise there are players that are going to replay it to have all trophies.

showtimefolks1342d ago

Just like heavy rain play once leave it alone than about a year later play it again or maybe okay t 3 times within 2-3 weeks to get every ending and trophies

In a game where your choices have consequences people will most likely play it multiple times just to see how different it could be with different choices

Kin23g1342d ago (Edited 1342d ago )

I'll try to, David. But I doubt I'll be able to keep myself from replaying it again.

Haha1231342d ago

So basically rent the game

FragMnTagM1342d ago

So games are starting to be movies now?

That goes against every reason why I game to play it only once.

That is why I will spend 60 dollars for one title. Content that is worth it, that lasts for a long time.

jwatt1342d ago

I think if they make it where you can see who agrees and disagree with you when you scroll over it, that would change every thing

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rodiabloalmeida1343d ago

It's like that movies where there is a killer but you don't know who is it at the beginning, and when the movie ends, you discover who is the killer. It's not a bad thing. I'm sure it will be an awesome experience to play with. David Cage and all his team are very good storytellers.

KingOptimusOrigin1111343d ago (Edited 1343d ago )

I'm going to play it again because I know its going to be epic.

Xof1343d ago

I only played through Heavy Rain maybe 1.5 times. That .5 was just using the chapter-select to see how player choice effected the story. It usually didn't.

BitbyDeath1343d ago

I'm afraid i can't do that Dave

RXL1343d ago

epic...

doubt many kids will get the reference tho lol..

bubbles up!

AusRogo1343d ago

Hahaha that actually made my day on n4g!

Qrphe1343d ago

OMG, this was a great reponse lol

NastyLeftHook01343d ago

Yeah me neither, im a total nut when it comes to getting all of the story together.

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