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Submitted by nukeitall 601d ago | opinion piece

You’re Being Lied To: Windows 8 Isn’t Bad for Gaming

Windows 8 is a threat to computer gaming. It's a "catastrophe," if you listen to Gabe Newell at Valve, or heads at a bunch of other major gaming companies. But the thing is, even though everyone in video games is yelling about Windows 8, they're not actually yelling about, well, gaming.

So what's actually going on here? (Activision Blizzard Inc., Dev, Industry, Valve)

TopDudeMan  +   601d ago
I honestly don't think valve have anything to worry about from microsoft in the gaming market. And I don't think windows 8 is good or bad for gaming per se, but I did hear it was bad.
Amazingmrbrock  +   600d ago
"But gaming on Windows? Uh oh. That's looks a lot more like the Microsoft that's been (mostly) kicking Sony and Nintendo's asses up and down the block for the better part of a decade."

Lol what. Microsoft hasn't kicked nintendos but anywhere ever. The nintendo has sold half again as many wii's as microsoft sod xbox's this generation (90 some million to 60 some million). Not to mention that nintendo spends a fraction of what microsoft does on advertising.
nukeitall  +   600d ago
Actually, you are wrong!
During the previous generation, the GameCube sold less than 22 million worldwide while the original Xbox sold 24 million.
NYC_Gamer  +   601d ago
I'm sticking with my Win 7 unless MS offers me some type of discount
magitronic82  +   601d ago
They are offering a discount Windows 8 will be a $40 dollar upgrade from XP, Vista or Windows 7

http://windowsteamblog.com/...
tachy0n  +   601d ago
or just stay with windows 7 and wait for service pack 2......
nukeitall  +   600d ago
or just upgrade for the better Windows experience. Windows 8 despite a few quirks is by far better experience. It's a steal at $40 upgrade.
Mounce  +   600d ago
Windows 7 has been getting more efficient and is better than Vista, is decent or maybe equally as great or better than XP in most ways....

Why would I need to go 8? Why does anyone need to switch to 8? I don't understand your lack of reasoning, Nukeitall especially, 'Why not'? A STEAL for $40?.... How is it a steal when you could just fucking stick with 7, not have any negative impacts, and not using $40?! rofl.

There's no real reason to switch to 8 that'd improve your experience and if anything, 8 would start off with more hiccups and issues from it being new. I'd rather use an already ironed out Windows OS and not hop the wagon for irrational reasons of just "I has W8, jealous?" benefactors. Unless I NEED Windows 8 to do things that most gamers would shit bricks for(Windows Live Gaming? LOLNOPE) The only thing that'd entice Gamers to switch, is if there is statistical proof that it makes most modern games run better and it'd offer a great FPS improvement.
nukeitall  +   600d ago
@Mounce:

Have you used Windows 8?

Saying it does not improve experience indicates you have not properly tried Windows 8 or at all!

The immediate improvement is a significant performance boost. Faster bootup time, faster shut down time, and far more lightweight all around. Windows 8 performance wise runs circle around Windows 7. That alone justifies the $40 for the upgrade. People buy RAM or SSD to improve speed, why not upgrade an OS?

Windows 8 also now has online syncing with your account so you can move between computers and it will keep your settings all the way to your tablet and hopefully your phone. There is more advanced backup, far better start menu search and so much more.

"I'd rather use an already ironed out Windows OS and not hop the wagon for irrational reasons of just "I has W8, jealous?"

Irrational is to comment on something you don't know about as if you do!

"Unless I NEED Windows 8 to do things that most gamers would shit bricks for(Windows Live Gaming? LOLNOPE) The only thing that'd entice Gamers to switch, is if there is statistical proof that it makes most modern games run better and it'd offer a great FPS improvement."

We will have to see, it isn't clear what strategy MS is doing with Xbox Live on Windows. It wouldn\t surprise me if there is a significant improvement in performance due to how lightweight Windows 8 is.

The changes might not be for you, but it certainly is worth upgrading to many others of us.
FriedGoat  +   601d ago
Nice try Bill Gates.
Erudito87  +   601d ago
windows 8 is more closed off than any other win os the metro interface is horrible as its splits the whole experience(the start button now brings that up when you have something open in the metro its seperate from the main os all of this probably requires alot more resources too) im giving win 8 a miss raze the world explained it the best
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ARBitrator  +   601d ago
Stop being such a whiner, it's really isn't that big of a deal. You use the start button to select programs that you want to run and that's it. You can place the programs that you want to run on the new start screen and get the same result.

Some people are such drama queens. If they weren't, then that would just stay with windows 7 if they didn't like windows 8 and not have to tell the whole damn planet about it.
Erudito87  +   600d ago
me and others are entitled to our opinions just as you are. W8 looks cumbersome to use and so im going to say it when some BS article suggests that people are over reacting.

(i found a good comment on gizmodo which sums up everything well)
if you actually listened all the way through Gabe's interview on the subject, ran the Win 8 preview for yourself (with and without Metro), read Mark's response, and then read Starsmore's reply where he sums it all up, and you still don't understand where MS is going with this and why it is a problem.....

I am not sure what to say. Let me try one more way of putting it for you...

They are trying to narrow the entrance into the OS, from both directions. Whether you are a developer or whether you are a user, MS is clearly taking their OS in a direction that looks very much like a certain competitor's OS. If they are successful, the nextt version...Windows 9...won't allow Metro to be optional. Maybe they will even make it that way withing Windows 8, using a "security update" as an excuse. So let's say you are Sony, and you want to make a game for PC. Microsoft has a vested interest in you not being able to sell your game on PC. If Sony has to go through Microsoft to get into the OS, where does that leave them?

Do you understand the problem now Kyle? I am betting not. So let's try a smaller example.

Rockstar decides to make a new game. The game is going to be huge, everyone knows it. They decide to go with a first week launch exclusive on PS3 because Sony offers them some development/marketing money. When it comes time to release the game on XBOX and PC, MS decides to charge them more then what would be normal. Maybe MS decides not to allow the game in the Marketplace at all. Now that huge game just became a single platform game. Should Microsoft be able to wield that much control? Do you really believe that they wouldn't do it if they could despite everything we have seen during this generation of consoles?

You go ahead and keep responding with naive bullshit like "you can turn Metro off". My suggestion would be to go back to writing such informative articles like "Kate Upton takes an iPhone to a Galaxy Party". That appears to be much more in your wheelhouse.

Sorry to be such a dick about it, but this kind of writing isn't just ignorant, it is irresponsible. There isn't anything good about this for gaming, nor it is good for encouraging a competitive business market in the gaming industry.
Bzone24  +   600d ago
***"me and others are entitled to our opinions just as you are. W8 looks cumbersome to use and so im going to say it when some BS article suggests that people are over reacting."***

You are entitled to your opinion, but looking at this comment you haven't even tried Windows 8. Looks cumbersome? Why don't you try it so you can at least say it is cumbersome or even that you were wrong in judging something before trying it out.

***"They are trying to narrow the entrance into the OS, from both directions. Whether you are a developer or whether you are a user, MS is clearly taking their OS in a direction that looks very much like a certain competitor's OS. If they are successful, the nextt version...Windows 9...won't allow Metro to be optional. Maybe they will even make it that way withing Windows 8, using a "security update" as an excuse. So let's say you are Sony, and you want to make a game for PC. Microsoft has a vested interest in you not being able to sell your game on PC. If Sony has to go through Microsoft to get into the OS, where does that leave them?"***

Why does Microsoft have a vested interest in Sony not selling a game on the PC? The more games and programs made for PCs the more copies of Windows are sold. One would think they have a vested interest in Sony or any other quality gamemaker selling games on a Windows PC.

***"Rockstar decides to make a new game. The game is going to be huge, everyone knows it. They decide to go with a first week launch exclusive on PS3 because Sony offers them some development/marketing money. When it comes time to release the game on XBOX and PC, MS decides to charge them more then what would be normal. Maybe MS decides not to allow the game in the Marketplace at all. Now that huge game just became a single platform game. Should Microsoft be able to wield that much control? Do you really believe that they wouldn't do it if they could despite everything we have seen during this generation of consoles?"***

Even if for some reason Microsoft blocks Rockstar from selling the game in the Marketplace, how does that stop Rockstar from selling the game for PCs. You do know that games still install from disc or downloading right? I have Windows 8 right now and games install just the same as they did with Windows 7. You look to be getting worked up over nothing.
ARBitrator  +   600d ago
@Bzone24 - I totally agree, Eruduto87 obviously haven't even used windows 8. Yet he'll feels that he should have a valid opinion on how it works. Using his own logic, I'd have to say he's the type of guy that would give a product a 1 out of 10 rating because his UPS shipment was delayed due to weather and he didn't get to play it on release day...lol
simonrope  +   601d ago
Just like when they said Windows 7 wasnt good for gaming, look at it now.
whiteyjuice  +   601d ago
"Metro" is flaming dumpster fire. Everything that used to be easy now requires two or more additional steps.
Windows 8 = Windows Vista.
ARBitrator  +   601d ago
There is nothing further from the truth, how are there additional steps. On the metro screen you see that app/program you wanted and you click or tap it. In the old start menu, you had to click start, scroll to find what you are looking for, and then click it. How is metro any more difficult.

If an app/program is not on the start screen, you right click it and select pin to start screen or taskbar... pretty much the same as pinning something to the startmenu or taskbar in windows 7.

Stop trolling.
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tachy0n  +   601d ago
windows vista is not bad at all with service pack 2 installed....
AO1JMM  +   600d ago
You do NOT have to use the Metro UI.
S-T-F-U  +   601d ago
I tried Windows 8, hated the fact they have got rid of the start button only to replace it with this 'metro' interface. I shall be sticking with Windows 7 for the foreseeable future...
S-T-F-U  +   601d ago
I'm sorry to those who disagree. I'll go out tomorrow and purchase a touch screen monitor so I am able to use Windows 8 to it's full potential. It doesn't really matter that there isn't a start menu, I'm just being silly...
hellvaguy  +   601d ago
Want windows 8 to play my xbox live account on my laptop.
gamernova  +   601d ago
I knew this already. I used windows 8 and all my games worked fine.
CyberCam  +   601d ago
WOW it's hilarious to see these M$ fanatics fiercely defending an OS as if their life depended on it. Why do individuals with absolutely no association to the company, fight tooth & nail for an inanimate object. The ironic thing is they will never change the minds of the critics that criticize the OS... LOL! Who cares...

Personally, I don't trust M$ as far as I throw them... I've watched M$'s history over the years and they've been trying to monopolize many markets over the years. Lucky for consumers, they haven't succeeded, if they did, we would all be in a world of limited choices & stagnate technologies.
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JBSleek  +   601d ago
That's a rather strange way of looking at it. Why are people a fan of anything? Because people invested time and effort into a platform.

I think saying MS was trying to monopolize the market is a little stretch I would say more like dominate it, and competition doesn't necessarily breed innovation look at the Wireless sector of ATT,Verizon,Sprint,T-Mobile still raping people even though there are four of them.
CyberCam  +   600d ago
So because people have invested time & into a platform, they NEED to defend it from people that disagree with the it... many times to point of overly aggressive confrontation including childish naming calling???

It's not a strange way of looking at it... it's a logical way of looking at it. Why waste your energy on aggressive confrontation? It's a wonder why there are so many wars in the world.

Dominating a market & attempting to directly/indirectly push out the competition is not trying monopolize a market?

Those 4 companies have a monopoly over the US market, there have been other start ups that have tried penetrating their market and giving customers better value, have been thwarted.

Also if you follow the money, you'd know that many of those companies are owned by the same parent company higher up the pyramid hierarchy of companies. They only have the illusion of competing with each other.
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JBSleek  +   600d ago
That pyramid really only applies to TV stations and the food business not so much in the technology business as all of them are either based in separate countries or a vast competitors yet I understand what you are saying.
CyberCam  +   600d ago
LOL! That pyramid applies right across the board my friend... there are no boundaries when it comes to money & power! It climbs all the way up to mega corps like Haliburton & Blackwater (defense contractors), sometimes the connection is up to 10 companies deep.

The super elite rich that control the world, hide the trails very well from the average people. I find myself very fortunate to have been informed of these matters by a few on the inside.

I'm not going to banter back & forth with you any longer. You believe anything you like, and if it helps, I will say you win the debate.

I do however feel empathy for my fellow man, the majority have no clue what the 1% have in store for the 99%. While the everyday people worldwide argue, fight & kill each other, those in control sit back laughing at us and plan our demise. All I can say is God help us all!
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JBSleek  +   600d ago
Sounds rather conspiracy theory for my taste.
CyberCam  +   599d ago
Until you wake up one day and find that these crazy conspiracy theorist's nutty rants have come true! Open your eyes and look at the world around you, that you live in, the world is getting worse & worse and it's not going to get any better!

I will leave you with two quotes that I hold in highest regard... I will challenge you to find out who the authors are... Cheers!

"There is a principle which is a bar against all information,
which is a proof against all argument, and
which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance --
that principle is condemnation before investigation."

and

"The only certain barrier to truth, is the presumption we already have it!"
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SolidSystem  +   600d ago
The Win8 interface is designed for tabets. you right click and instead of getting the menu near the mouse, the menu for what you can do after right clicking appears at the bottom.

this is not a OS for the desktop.

Also for anyone saying "use the desktop app" it sucks for multitasking. everything running in that app is just seen as the desktop app, making it hard to switch between your windows on the desktop.
capcock  +   600d ago
I don't like the metro/new interface + windows 7 is perfect to me so I feel no need to upgrade whatsoever

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