Eurogamer.com ''Sony Liverpool was working on two PlayStation 4 launch titles, Eurogamer has been told by a reliable source.''
This is absolutely gut-wrenching news. Please save these projects Sony! :(
I agree. I'd have thought Sony would have axed other studios before chopping their Liverpool team, but maybe sales of Wipeout HD weren't good enough to justify their continued existence?
What other studios? I cant think of a single one worth chopping. I love liverppol because of their amazong games as psygnosis. But lately they just mostly made wipeout and that wasnt enough to pay the bills. However they are still with Sony, but perhaps they'll be integrated into other talented dev teams at Sony. There really isnt even one bad team. Sony always hores proven veteran game developement teams who have usually been around since the snes days till now.
it's kind of simple... they bring out good games. we really need to support.. tell your friends... their friends.. and their friends. damn i'm gonna miss wipeout.. was hoping to see a destruction derby this gen too. sad day.
The sad fact is that Sony probably saw other projects that needed those resources more. It sucks when anyone losses a job especially in the game industry where jobs seem to be few and far between. But Sony has to get their roster of games right when it comes to return on investment. They gotta make money. Sad day for WipEout fans though, I feel bad for you guys.
Out of all the things why would Sony cancel the developer making PS4 games?
Because the studio cost more to run than it was bringing in. The WipEout & Motorstorm franchises have been struggling in sales (WipEOut since 2006, Motorstorm since 2009). That's 6 years of iffy operations coming from the studio. The only reason Sony kept them open this long is because of the history they have as well as their games constant high review scores, but without the sales to match you're left with nothing else to do, but shut down. Not to mention the racing genre is almost as overcrowded as the FPS. It's sad, but this is why sales matter to some degree. If a developer isn't making money it's going to be shut down. We could have just missed a new Syphon Filter for PS4, and have no one to blame, but ourselves. If the closure is true then hopefully they'll spread the team among it's other developers so they keep their jobs.
"We could have just missed a new Syphon Filter for PS4, and have no one to blame, but ourselves." Umm, no. Why should we be to blame for their poor sales? Do you think people should buy games that don't interest them just to make a corporation profits? I buy games I like, if a game dev makes games that people don't like, that's on them not us. This news does suck, I hope they all find jobs soon, but don't try to spin this to put it on the consumers.
@DarkTower805 No people shouldn't buy games that don't interest them. However, said people should not act surprised when news like this occurs, and say how much they'll miss the developers and how much they miss their games and wanted to play those and be upset that they won't be developing any more games for the future if they didn't support their current games.
This is where making money as a company rolls in. Many people have said "keep putting out exclusive games" or "the gaming division is making money" (which is no longer true). Sony is now financially in such bad shape, it'll start showing up in the things gamers will see. This decision can ONLY be about money. Now maybe people will start seeing how bad of a shape Sony is in. This is only the beginning.
It may be the beginning... of the end...OF Sony's restructuring. Perhaps "dumping" this studio is one of the things needed for the Games division to stay profitable, or to set them back on that path. After this, perhaps they will begin their rebound. The next several months will need to be watched with scrutiny to see exactly were the scales will tip.
Dude even microsoft (with its hundreds of billions of dollars) shuts down teams if their not bringing in more money. It doesnt mean that it spells doom when Sony does it. Relax big boy.
No one said the games were cancelled, they will probably give them to their other studios to finish the work.
Im sure others are developing for ps 4 also, if Sony is able to spare one team that was already working on ps4 games too.
No one knows yet those projects arent safe and soon to be worked elsewhere by part , if not all of the same staff anyway But it's still sad and worrisome
Splinter cell like game for ps4? Noooooooooo!
....But isn't Splinter cell MP anyway?
not always it depends on what mood UBI is in
WipEout for PS4. Can't imagine how it will look o_O cryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
lol Probably the same but in 1080p and 60FPS. It's the Splinter Cell style game for PS4 that gets me. Would love a game to play like the old Splinter Cell games.
Wipeout HD on PS3 already ran at 1080p and 60fps. The team at Sony Liverpool could do wonderful things with the PS3 hardware.
It's not full hd . It uses dynamic frame buffer that allows the game to change resolutions on the fly when needed . Right now there is nothing a constant 1080p @ 60 fps on consoles saves a few psn xbla and "easy" 2d stuff .
I always felt Wipeout HD was one of the best looking games on PS3. Mainly because of the (sort of) 1080p and 60fps. It's just so sharp and fluid compared to the majority of console games, and the art style is amazing. I really hope that their PS4 work will see the light of day somehow.
now i'm boycotting future Sony machines if there is no WipEout.
Wow that makes me sad, I am a really big fan of the work that studio has done for many years now. Best of luck to them, as someone facing unemployment myself at the moment for similar reasons I know exactly how they feel.
Wait Eurogamer? :L Anyways, I could see WipEout as a great way to show the PS4's graphical fidelity. Why is it that when good studios go down, there are awesome games to be made :C
Sony must really be desperate to save money if they are closing a studio who actually realases great games
Sony and especially kaz hirai understood that keeping some studios open just for the sake of having a massive portfollio won,t maximize profitability. In order to release more funds for advertising and PR endeavour, sony needs to prioritize wich projects will most likely be commercially successful. and Gamescom shown us just that. wonderbook is a perfect example of that.
Sony must be in big trouble, or they are cancelling and consolidating for next gen. When they closed down Zipper, those guys were also working on that new innovative shooter, can't remember the name of it.
I called it. http://bit.ly/SmegPJ With all theses studio closures and the finacial issues the company is in Sony really isn't going to rely on that many exclusives next gen.
how many studios they have closed this generation and how many they have added this very same generation to the playstation family? heck i could even see this as potential Quantic Dream acquisition, i wouldnt be surprised if that happens before sony launches the ps4.
So the only PS3 games SCEE are making are the LBP an KZ. It seem that a lot of project from Europe get cancelled (8 Days and The Gateway) while SCEA and SCEJ get the green light Edit Oops forgot Motorstrom
+bubs for you MaideninBlack This is the stuff many on this site need to hear. Hopefully it helps people understand many things that will change about Sony when it comes to the next system. Most will probable have a fit when Sony goes in many directions all similar to what MS has done this gen (for the need of money). With the biggest one being an xbox live like approach to the online system (no more fully free to play all online games). Less exclusives better marketing. Revamping the Playstation name as a whole. Tried and true things are out the door for Sony when it comes to the next console. Gone are the days of being on top in market share and profits..... Sony is just struggling to survive.
struggling to survive? ah!ah!ah All sony needs to do his close few studios, bring their tv line back to the trinitron glory.(quality,affordable) sony pictures needs to pump more and better movies. sony xperia Is performing amazingly well against iphone and samsung. Vita will do better once the holiday season comes.
All of the things you listed require lots of money... that Sony may not have. Which I think is edward's point. If they could do those things then they would be instead. I don't know if the extant of their troubles is as far as he thinks it is, but with so many studio closures and years of losses here lately it is easy to see how one could think this way.
They are restructuring, of course they are gonna start trimming the fat, people are forgetting that Sony has purchased more company's this gen than they have closed, and that they have closed less than another competitor, infact how come we didn't see the Same amount of stories when studios were closed and companies were buying themselves free? Point is Sony can't be in that bad of a position to blow 300 odd million on a company, also with Sony's assets they will be fine, how many bad gens did Nintendo have? Did they go under? Like it or not Sony isn't going anywhere, they will continue to pump out exclusives on all of their platforms, including future hardware, they will also make sure the ps4 will be another powerfull machine worth the money, just look at the vita for evidence of what they want to do, you fan say what you want about it, but the thing is powerfull and choked full of features.
Sadly the jump to HD has taken its toll on many studios this generation. I feel bad for the people losing their jobs more than anything but I hope their work will not go unfinished. I also hope they are able to find other jobs quickly. They are obviously all talented people judging by the work they have done.
Why do I feel like the only person who doesn't care for Wipeout HD? What are you guys seeing in that game that I'm not?
You're not alone, it's a niche game in a niche market. I've played it and I see the quality of it, but it's not for me. If you're not Forza, GT or NFS you're going to struggle, and that's what happened. Besides, I think Sony wants to push more people to GT and their LBP Cart/MNR series.
but Sony is the one console developer/publisher, who doesn't deserve to have all these studio closings, because they would actually use these studios to try to push the industry forward... Maybe that's their problem.
I agree with you Thats the sadest part about this sony has take risk after risk to give gamers what they wantand looks like it will hurt them in the end, while Ms has played it safe sitting in there protected bubble sayinf F what fans want, well giving all the studios MS own its time for them to take risk and give us gamers what we have been asking for set rare free to develope the games we want more core games and more exscluives. I always wonder who makes the decision at MSG cause they are not doing a good job.
Well i hope they all get back together and open a new studio :)
Sony should consider getting a universal studio approach akin to that of Ubisoft. Having other teams together on AAA titles is far better than getting multiple exclusives without polish. So far the only singular capable AAA studios are GG, ND and SSM.
All the endless crying and so far no one has said that these project have been cancelled. They got rid of a studio no different then when Microsoft was getting rid of there own. The projects will probably go to someone else. @ DigitalAnalog. Those are the only capable triple A studios. Really? How do you figure?
man the way things are going for sony they just might throw in the towel soon, I'm kind of beleving that in the end microsoft will be the last gaming giant. If that happens maybe they will actually give there fans games they want, I'm really not trying to sound like a fanboy or any thing but Sony has been closing studios left and right while MS have been acquiring and buliding studios, wheather or not they are going to be power houses studios remains to be seen, but knowing MS they will have the potenial but MS will hold them back. Before or right when the next gen start I bet MS makes a couple more buys some big some small, Anyways I'm not saying that I hope sony close it doors but if thing don't tighten up for them next gen will be even worser. like I been preaching for years if people grow up and stop been fanboys the industry wouldn't seem like it's headed for another crash, whos going to be the miracle developer/console this time? I serously dought it will be Nintendo/Miyamoto.
I know GOW Acension is not even out yet but i hope their will be a GOW game for next gen.
Oh well. They were a great dev team. Now Sony has finished them. Bye Sony Liverpool, or as I like to call you, Psygnosis. Btw, I loved Shadow of the Beast. Your Amiga days were your best ones. Sony ended you.
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