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Submitted by alexcosborn 741d ago | opinion piece

How Does The PS3/Vita Combo Stack Up Against The Wii U/GamePad?

PSLS: "This holiday season brings with it the launch of Nintendo’s new tablet-centric console, the Wii U. The system’s innovative controller aims to once again revolutionize the way we play games, much like how motion control changed industry when the Wii was first released. While Nintendo’s new console likely won’t see the same explosive launch its predecessor received several years ago, there’s no denying the fact that the Wii U GamePad opens up a range of possibilities for new gaming experiences not currently seen on other consoles." (PS Vita, PS3, Wii U)

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MultiConsoleGamer  +   741d ago
How did the Move stack up to the Wiimote?

How did the PS Eye stack up against the Kinect?
alexcosborn  +   741d ago
Touché :)
NukaCola  +   740d ago
What I find interesting is that the Wii U will have 3 controllers.

The WiiMotion+
The Tablet
and the Xbox-like Controller

I think the Wii is banking on the use of multiple controllers. Also think if Sony supports the games with Cross Buy and Cross Play interaction like Sly 4 does for example..they will show the Vita is a perfect companion for PS3 and PS4. It is about support and Sony has learned that support is a large part of it. It's two items and they wont ever be 100% since they aren't the controller and the system like Wii U, but in time the Vita will work just the way it should.

BTW Vita Controller support for PS3 is coming in a few days with v1.8 so um...we are already getting it friends.
MuleKick  +   740d ago
Imagine a $400 Super Slim / vita combo.
beerkeg  +   740d ago
@MuleKick

'Imagine a $400 Super Slim / vita combo. '

Imagine how much it wouldn't sell.
ShinMaster  +   740d ago
Technically speaking....
The Move is better than the Wiimote, without a doubt.

The PS Eye alone can't match Kinect. But the PS Eye + Move combo are better than Kinect, at least when it comes to gameplay.

Unless we're just talking about sales here.

It's pointless to compare Vita to Wii U. The Vita is a full on portable gaming console, not just a controller.
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Cross Buy and Cross Play are a smart move by Sony.
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nukeitall  +   740d ago
@ShinMaster:

But the PS Eye + Move combo are better than "Kinect, at least when it comes to gameplay."

That is not entirely true as the excellent voice control in Kinect makes certain games pure bliss, such as ME3. There are also great games like Dance Central and Kinect Sports while PS Eye + Move has no real games worth speaking of. In fact, it has no real use at all at this point!
ShinMaster  +   739d ago
@Nukeitall
You must be joking.
Voice command has been around for a while and is possible with other headsets and PS Eye. Can't believe you people ate that up.
Pure bliss? seriously lol

""Move has no real games worth speaking of""
How is that relevant to GAMEPLAY? Kinect overcomplicates simple tasks and restricts freedom of actions. Kinect games have to be oversimplified because more complex tasks that require an actual controller would be impossible.

""Great games like Dance Central and Kinect Sports""
Ha, my point exactly.
That's as far as Kinect goes. Not to mention there are equivalent games for Move among many other games: http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
Move can be implemented effectively in core games. That's the point.
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dbjj12088  +   741d ago
They were all terrible.
doctorstrange  +   741d ago
This
rpd123  +   741d ago
You speak the truth.
Pixel_Enemy  +   741d ago
Their support is what's terrible. Move is 10x more accurate than the wiimote. The fact that it had practically zero games is where it failed.

The same will happen with the Vita/PS3 combination. VERY few first party games will take advantage of linking the two together. The awesome features that the vita promised at launch will fall through the cracks and only burn the fans that bought the systems for those reasons.

I am a huge Sony fan but this is just the sad truth.
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PixL  +   740d ago
Wikipedia lists 110 Move games. I hardly find it to be "zero". Get your facts straight, then talk about truth. I never expected Move to replace DS but it has its uses.
andrewsqual  +   740d ago
Wait I ssumed the article meant cross purchasing and here is where the 3DS fails. There is no reason that any of the games that came to 3DS couldn't come to Wii either. Also on Wii U it is looking highly unlikely it will be out at Christmas if they still won't divulge any info on it.
Ben_Grimm  +   741d ago
I'm sure you could find those articles as well when they were first released.
Sev  +   741d ago
Yeah, it's all really a tough call. The Move is so much better than the Wiimote, but there is hardly any software for it.

Kinect blows the PS Eye out of the water. But they were also released years apart.

The PS3/Vita Wii U situation is a little different. The Wii U isn't even out yet, and the PS3 has this massive install base already. All PS3 owners need to do is purchase a Vita and they have a Wii U like experience. Whereas they'd have to buy the Wii U (likely much more expensive) to get similar features that what are already available on the PS3.

We'll see, though. Sony has been known to fuck up great plays before. And turning the PS3/Vita combo into a Wii U like experience could be a perfect play for them. They just need developers on board.

I can see it working well. It may even keep the Wii U from standing out since the PS3/Vita will be able to do it too. It all depends on if third-party Wii U games are designed for the PS3/Vita this way. A few PSN games aren't going to cut it. They need more support than what they've done with the Move.
BrutallyBlunt  +   741d ago
@Sev
"The Move is so much better than the Wiimote, but there is hardly any software for it."

That really is the key, support. Move doesn't have it and likely never will this generation. If it were in every system like the Wiimote that would be different but it was marketed poorly, supported poorly and came out too late.

"Kinect blows the PS Eye out of the water. But they were also released years apart."

One's a 3D camera while the other is a 2D camera. Kinect is also still very limited due to it's lag reaction time and recognition abilities.

"The PS3/Vita Wii U situation is a little different. The Wii U isn't even out yet, and the PS3 has this massive install base already. All PS3 owners need to do is purchase a Vita and they have a Wii U like experience. Whereas they'd have to buy the Wii U (likely much more expensive) to get similar features that what are already available on the PS3. "

You still won't get the same experience because the Playstation 3 does not sync. the same way with Vita as the Wii U gamepad and the Wii U will. You will also see way less support and the same scenario the Move was in.

"We'll see, though. Sony has been known to **** up great plays before. And turning the PS3/Vita combo into a Wii U like experience could be a perfect play for them. They just need developers on board."

As i said earlier, the two systems don't syncronise the same way. It's also not as easy due to two completely different hardwares.

This feature will be very limited and is likely to work much better with the Vita and the Playstation 4 combo.
killerhog  +   741d ago
I like how it's the 'WiiU experience' and not the 'playstation experience' as some of the features were done with the ps3/psp and the wiiU isn't even out yet.
iamnsuperman  +   740d ago
What the Move needs is more third party support. It would be nice to see the move compatible with Battlefield (works very well with shooters) and Sony need to encourage this by doing games like this for the move. I can see why they do not as the move hasn't sold a load (especially recently) but it is that risk that (I feel) sony should take
DA_SHREDDER  +   740d ago
Can't play Mario on a Sony platform, just like you can't play GOW on a Nintendo platform. Just do what I do and get both.
herbs  +   740d ago
The move is marginaly more accurate than a wiimote however it lacks any kind of feedback (rumble, speaker) has less buttons and is less versatile. The wiimotion+ controllers (which will apparently be standard for Wii U) are better in every way without the glowing Pom Pom on the end ;p
killerhog  +   741d ago
Yeah compare a controller that comes with the console by default and a controller that came out years later and is OPTIONAL.

How did the eyetoy and ps eye stack up with kinect you say? It does everything the kinect does years before the kinect actually came out.

Tempri
Yeah kinda like how you can save your save file from a ps1 (ps3) game to your psp and continue off of it and vise-versa? Im sure it can be the same for Sony's cloud storage. Don't count Sony out just yet. But it just seems everyone is dismissing what the ps3/psp and ps3/psvita can do so when the WiiU comes out people can yell "Sony copies" though Sony did it long before.
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JellyJelly  +   740d ago
Maybe it would make more sense to compare the Vita/PS3 to the Smart Glass/360.
t0mmyb0y  +   740d ago
I dunno the Move is the most accurate controller I've ever used :D
Getowned  +   740d ago
I don't know I would say my mouse was more accurate. Mouse and Keyboard FTW!
Axecution  +   740d ago
@Getowned

Totally agree about the mouse obviously. But the keyboard? hell no.

Left analog stick and east-to-reach pressure sensitive buttons with motion sensors blows the keyboard out of the water.
t0mmyb0y  +   740d ago
The mouse is not a 'controller' it's a mouse. Game console controller then lol. Yes the mouse is the most accurate, but it doesn't move in a 3D space.
miyamoto  +   740d ago
LOL!

Getowned just "Got Owned"
by you.
Getowned  +   739d ago
Thats obviously not what I meant, but some people just love to argue semantics. -_-

@Tommyboy
Obviously I know a mouse is not a controller XD I was sure everyone would know whay I meant and not try to argue semantics(I was wrong apparenly)

BTW, love the pic, lol Ricky, Trailer Park Boys for LIFE!..I really miss that show!
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

@Axecution
I do like the left analong stick as well, the main reason to crouch or knife but other than that I could live with out it. I guess Im just really use to the M&KB that it dosn't bother me at all.

-Back to main point-

Weather or not it is a Controller, you do use the mouse and keyboard to controll your games (so really that is a moot and arguable point)as common knowlage (I hope) M&KB will always be more functional and accurate than a gamepad or the playstation move, obviously. Move was a good idea but sony dropped the ball, I did have high hopes for the device but -sigh- just another thing in my house collecting dust.

@ axelstone

That was kind of a lame comment, can't you get more creative ? Call me names or make fun of me or what ever sure, but that was vary lame if your going to try to "call me out" per se, please come up with some thing more original than a play on words, but what ever that was probably the best you could come up with so, cheers!
t0mmyb0y  +   739d ago
Lol it's all good. I just assumed from the 90% disagrees everyone thought I was a douche :D I grew up with PC gaming. The Mouse n Keyboard are the best for FPS...however the Move works pretty good to :) I just meant games like Tumble (block stacking game) it really shows other possibilities that games can do.
P.S. TPB's 4 Life
mewhy32  +   740d ago
Well that was a very tell article. The author makes a very important point. Eventhough the ps3/vita combo is very impressive it's still just 'emulating' what the Wii-U is doing. Secondly not every ps3 owner has a vita and 'Every' Wii-U will have the small screen controller. It's a case of millions and millions of Wii-Us vs 3 or 4 million vitas. Face it. It's business and profit. Wii-U is a sure thing and the Vita/PS3 combo isn't.
k-dillinger  +   740d ago
yea in the case of kinect Microsoft spent how much to market it half a billion thats unheard of in the games industry where the eye toy what 15 million yea they bought that lil bit of success they had only to outsell move by what 2 million smdh
dale_denton  +   740d ago
you mean how did the kinnect stay up againts the ps eye?
T3mpr1x  +   741d ago
I would love to be able to use the Vita as a controller on some games, with Wii U-like capabilities. I'd save my game to the cloud, then resume it on my Vita. Sounds too good to be true, and with Sony's track record of supporting their handhelds, it might be. Then again, Cross-Buy seems so promising...
CommonSenseGamer  +   741d ago
Cross buy....honestly, you have that now with minis.
Hicken  +   740d ago
Not even remotely the same thing. Unless you're implying that PS3 AAA games are equivalent to $5 time wasters. And coming from you...

I'm not even going to get into what cross-buy is with you, because you know full well what it is. This is just more of your trolling that, somehow, goes unnoticed in every instance.
Shnazzyone  +   740d ago
Only problem, Vita's baby joysticks.
IRetrouk  +   740d ago
They come from good stock though.
Waddy101  +   740d ago
You will be able to use your PS Vita as a controller for the PS3 in the v1.80 update.
PopRocks359  +   741d ago
Well, we won't really know until both the Wii U and PS3/Vita combo are in full swing on the retail shelves at the same time.
Bossman112  +   741d ago
the issue with the ps3/vita is the ps3 is older so it cant handle these things that well in some cases and will cause lag which is not wanted in games
edonus  +   741d ago
That doesnt sound correct at all. Vita can transmit on bluetooth so it should register as fast as a controller I personally think Sony could really turn the market on its head if it started using the Vita for second screen functions with the Ps3. They would position themselves really well for next gen and between MS smartglass and vita functions they would pretty much undermine Nintendos WiiU completely.
Bossman112  +   741d ago
its just something I read... They said because the Cell Processor was old then it would cause some issues if using the Vita as a controller
Soldierone  +   741d ago
The transmission isn't the issue if you ask me. Even if the Vita does some of the rendering, it would still take power from the PS3 or Vita in order for it to sync up and work alongside each other. Constantly making sure each one is on the same page etc...

I don't think its "that" big of an issue, and would expect at least first parties to figure it out. However PS4 should make it a piece of cake.
Ju  +   741d ago
Certainly less overhead than any multilayer. Also, the Vita does not tax the system like the WiiU controller does. The WiiU must basically emulate a second machine, while the Vita can process completely independently from the console. Syncing is really not the issue. If any, assets must be available on both - either downloaded on start or some other way. And, the Vita requires its own executable to run on the hand held while for the WiiU its part to the game. For a developer an additional step, including toolchain, testing, etc. From a performance stand point I'd even rate PS3/Vita higher. Active smart client vs dump thin client.
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decimalator  +   741d ago
The Wii U still isn't as powerful as the PS3 despite being "newer".

For low-bandwidth communication between the PS3 and Vita, there is blueooth which is the same tech that the Dualshock controller uses. Bluetooth I think goes up to about 3 Mbps, and it's pretty low latency.

For higher bandwidth communication, the PS3 and Vita can communicate over a point-to-point wifi network. as long as they are within a reasonable range they can get 54 Mbps, which is enough to stream video. Think about it... you can stream HD movies easily over a 10 Mbps Internet connection. wifi has 500% that bandwidth. The Vita has plenty of processing power, as does the PS3.
Bossman112  +   741d ago
it is more powerful where on earth did you get that it was not ?
kneon  +   741d ago
The Wii U is almost certainly more powerful than the PS3, but remember that the Wii U architecture requires that the screen rendering for the controller be done on the Wii U so it's resources are split between the two screens.

With the Vita being a full handheld console it can run it's own game code and do it's own rendering. As far as the PS3 is concerned the Vita is just another controller.
alexcosborn  +   741d ago
The Vita operates completely independent of the PS3, so that's not really an issue.
3-4-5  +   741d ago | Intelligent
Wii U remote is going to be used by more dev's than the Vita.

Not everyone who has a PS3, has a Vita as well.

But everyone who buys a Wii U , will have the Wii U tablet controller.

That should be enough for that article to have never been written.

Can't believe people get paid for that.
ZeroG19  +   741d ago
Bubble my friend!
LX-General-Kaos  +   741d ago
well said
mamotte  +   741d ago
You said it all. Can anyone here imagine a game publisher making a game while saying "our game is awesome, but you'll need a PS3 and a Vita to play" Madness.
TheRacingX  +   740d ago
No, but they can say our game is awesome and if you have a Vita to connect to your PS3 it will be incredible, giving you additional features and playability. Nintendo already did it with Zelda: Windwaker on Gamecube, if you connected a GBA, it opened up new features using the GBA. If you didn't you still played a great game. Sony can do the same thing here, even more-so because where with the Wii U you have to leave the system on to play the game on the tablet controller, AND stay in range of the Wii U system, with the PS3/Vita you can jump right over to the Vita and keep playing, you don't have to be tethered to the PS3 to keep playing. Sony really needs to play that right on both fronts, yes, the Vita can be used as a PS3 controller with extra features just like the Wii U tablet, BUT unlike the Wii U tablet, your PS3 game becomes truly portable with the Vita , something you CANNOT do with the Wii U tablet controller...
GribbleGrunger  +   741d ago
But your saying that based on the assumption the Vita/PS3 combo has to equal or beat the Wiiu in sales. It doesn't have to. I'm going to be playing a Wiiu like experience before the Wiiu comes comes out and the levels I make with it will be played by thousands and thousands of others with the same DLC (LBP2)

Now, we can argue all day which is going to be the most successful, but what it actually boils down to is that the Wiiu experience can be had on the Vita/PS3 combo. We can also argue all day about people having to buy both and ignore the fact that 65 million PS3 owners only have to buy the cheaper Vita for that experience.

It's not a competition, it's just an alternative that some people might want.
3-4-5  +   741d ago
The Wii U experience can't be experience with the PS3/Vita combo.

But it's own unique experience can be had and can still be great.

One isn't better than the other...but considering you get the option standard on one and you have to buy something extra on the other makes a difference.

PS3/ Vita combo owners get their own unique gaming experience....it's def not the same though.
zgoldenlionz  +   740d ago
Id like to point out almost no developers outside Nintendo used the wiimote or motion plus for that matter in new and exciting ways. So assuming 3rd paty developers will use the new wiiu game pad because it's packaged in with every sale is a flawed idea. 99.9% of all wii games did the same gimmicky crap and added nothing to the game experience. And I'm going to bet the farm it will happen again. That doesn't mean I won't eventually pick up a wiiu to play 1st party games.
Jihaad_cpt  +   740d ago
and no one has a WiiU yet.
beerkeg  +   740d ago
I bet more people will have a Wii U than a Vita by the end of the year.
miyamoto  +   740d ago
Do know how to read an article on topic?

The article is comparing the two systems on a given premise that there is a PS3 console with a PS Vita unit on one hand and a Wii U console with a Gamepad on the other.

Then you go off saying " Not everyone who has a PS3, has a Vita as well."

How will there even be a comparison if the PS3 or Vita is absent?

Use some logic.
Don't try to twist the topic but stay on it.

PS. And those who agreed with you are the bigger
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mshope10  +   741d ago
ok ps3 can use vita as a controller. guess what not only does the wii u have the gamepad it also was confirmed a long time ago 3ds can be used like a gamepad controller so it will have the benefits of a separate processor and no glasses 3d screens.

so if people are willing to get a ps3 and vita for this type of gameplay.they should be happy getting the wii u and 3ds probably cheaper then the first two.

and sense every system will have a gamepad they know they will have those type of gameplay experiences from every game they buy.instead a couple games here and there.

but I bet here and there there will be games that use 3ds as a controller option to take the processing pressure off of wii u yinz all seemed to be worried about.plus if 3ds is the controller whatever it is using it for will be in 3d!

maybe with the circle pad pro they can let you stream wii u to 3ds XL to play wii u games in 3d without a 3d TV because the circle pad pro not only adds a second control pad it adds four shoulder buttons its the only portable with that option so it would work well.

hey just throwing ideas out there like yinz do!
hkgamer  +   741d ago
I guess it doesn't compare with the Wii U, just not in the same class/league at all.

Using as a controller
+Wii U streams videos to the controller.
-Vita/PS3 probably can only stream basic screenshots(maps/menu)
+Wii U controller has all the buttons console gamers are used to
-Vita doesn't have L&R/2&3
+WiiU controller has more functions such as gyro controls and other features that affect gameplay
-Vita only seems to have basic controls and a few touch controls

Using as a handheld
+WiiU Could switch seamlessly from tv to controller
-Vita doesn't seem to have that function yet, remote play may be able to change that
-WiiU cannot be taken out the house
+Vita can be played out the house with certain crossplay games.

These two shouldn't be compared with each other, they are made for different things, although the Vita does seem to mimic some of the WiiU's main functions.
The Vita at the moment doesn't seem to be able to control the PS3 remotely and can only work with some games. If it was able to play a movie on PS3 and then using the Vita choose another movie, video clip or playlist to change the current movie then it would be brilliant, seems easy to implement.
Vita is also a handheld gaming console so its main functions should be out of the house. If remote play is fixed and cloud saves with auto sync are available for all games then the Vita would work amazingly well with the PS3
PirateThom  +   741d ago
They actually showed PS3/Vita at GamesCom, it streams video as well, as necessary, sometimes different video from the TV.

Vita has a back touch panel, there's your L2/R2.

Watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
nevin1  +   741d ago
Does the touch screen do a good job of mimicking L2/R2?

Edit:

Just saw the video and where does he uses touchscreen for L2/R2?
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PirateThom  +   741d ago
Honestly, I don't think anything has come for it yet that would even let you test the ability to use it as a button.

The PS1 games might be the first look at it we get but, even something like designating the left/right sides to their respective button might be enough.

As for the video, that was more about the capabilities of this.
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hkgamer  +   741d ago
Well it did stream video, but these videos doesn't even have to be real time. So any lag would not even matter at all, but the WiiU is different.
Judging from concept video only(the one with baseball, or shooting the miis), the video streamed to wiiU controller is important to gameplay and any lag would probably mess up the whole point of a dual screen. Actually imagine sonic on DS taking a few seconds to jump from one screen to another.
Well, all I am saying is that the vita has yet to show real-time (not sure the right word) streaming and anything neccesary at the moment. It probably can do better in the future.

The vita does have back panel for use of the extra buttons, which would be useful for remote play or PS2/PS3 ports, but to use it as a gaming controller when I am playing my pS3, I would rather use the PS3 controller.
GribbleGrunger  +   741d ago
I just simply couldn't let this go:

Using as a controller
+Wii U streams videos to the controller.
-Vita/PS3 probably can only stream basic screenshots(maps/menu)

You can stream full games which has been proven several times, so game information and an alternative screen for the game would be easy.

+Wii U controller has all the buttons console gamers are used to
-Vita doesn't have L&R/2&3

You tap the back touch for L2/R2. The Wiiu doesn't have that. Nor does it have multitouch, or a camera or the level of gyros that the Vita has

+WiiU controller has more functions such as gyro controls and other features that affect gameplay
-Vita only seems to have basic controls and a few touch controls

You're kidding me right? Vita has more controls than any devise out there.
yabhero  +   740d ago
Hey bud. WiiU does have an HD camera. It's been used in promo and discussed. WiiU and Vita and 3DS both have 1 gyro and one accelerometer. WiiU also has a built in mic for voice chat. Also WiiU has no humanely noticeable lag. It renders to the tablet over a hundred ms before the TV displays the image. Vita and WiiU are awesome but I'm wondering why we are comparing a next gen console and it's packaged fully supported controller to a (awesome) current gen console and a handheld it can pair up with. Plus ps3+ vita is more expensive. WiiU will be 299 or 349. Only 50-100 than a Vita or Ps3... And then you'd have to buy the other.
hkgamer  +   740d ago
It does have many other controls, but to replace the DS3 and use the vita would be something that I may not be able to do.

I guess for some games it will work, but for others it definitely will not work.

It hasn't been confirmed yet but does the gyros control work with the Vita/PS3 combo as well as how the WiiU handle it? like that baseball tech demo?
miyamoto  +   740d ago
So many wrongs on many levels.

1) "-Vita/PS3 probably can only stream basic screenshots(maps/menu)"

Wrong. The PS3 can stream HD video to PS Vita & vice versa.

Video Chat while Playing MP3 while Playing a PS Vita Game simultaneously. http://www.youtube.com/watc...

2) "-Vita doesn't have L&R/2&3"

Wrong. The PS Vita has L & R buttons.

3) "+WiiU controller has more functions such as gyro controls and other features that affect gameplay"

Wrong Again. The PS Vita has Sixaxis motion sensing system (three-axis gyroscope, three-axis accelerometer), three-axis electronic compass,

4) "-Vita only seems to have basic controls and a few touch controls"

Very Wrong Again. The PS Vita has front & rear capacitive multi-touch screens capable of 10 touch points at the same time for a total of 20. How is that few?

5) "-WiiU cannot be taken out the house"
Wrong again. You can take the Wii U outside of your house and play outside if you want.

6) " Vita does seem to mimic some of the WiiU's main functions"

Wrong. Sony's Wireless Remote Play technology & concept has been since 2004 or earlier.

7) "The Vita at the moment doesn't seem to be able to control the PS3 remotely and can only work with some games."

Wrong. Vita can control PS3 remotely even if your very far way from your PS3.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

8) "Vita is also a handheld gaming console so its main functions should be out of the house."

Wrong Wrong. The PS Vita can also be used inside of the house too.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

phew!
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nerdkiller  +   741d ago
nah i dont need a sony paper weight to come with a ps3
refocusedman  +   741d ago
If the Wii U is $500 dollars at launch, then you can compare the two. The last time I checked a vita was $250 and a ps3 was $225-250. I think that Sony is gonna have a real hard time selling/stating that the ps3 is comparable to the wii U because theirs a strong possibility that nintendo will trump them in the most important factor for consumers. Price
3-4-5  +   741d ago
If you actually read anything Nintendo has stated in the past 3-4 months you would realize they have made it clear the Wii U would not be even close to $500.

They've never sold a system at that high of price.

Sony is the only company to break that barrier and look where it got them financially.

They have made it pretty clear ( the interviews are out there ) that it will be between $250-350

See this is what happens when you do a bit of research instead of throwing out random numbers that don't apply to reality at all.
refocusedman  +   740d ago
If you actually read and comprehended my comment, you would have noticed that I never stated or inferred that the Wii U would be close to $500. If you actually understood what was written the $500 price tag wasn't random at all, it's actually the purchase price of a Vita and a PS3 (250+250=500). Which is probably why I stated that nintendo will trump them in cost efficiency. As for research, before YOU throw out random facts(sony is the only company to break the $500 barrier) Neo geo and the phillips cdi both broke the $500 barrier way before the ps3 at $700 and $650 respectively. SO thanks for the comment and for your pointless research. :-)
3-4-5  +   740d ago
Yes I did comprehend.

Nintendo will trump them...by having the tablet including with the system.

Also they are giving us a Pro controller and allowing for backwards compatibility with Wii plus remotes and also with MOST Wii games.

Sony needs to get on the backwards compatible train.

That and Nintendo doesn't care about PS3...they already won that battle...they are more worried about the PS4, which could actually be a good competitor and take sales away as long as sony doesn't sell it for $600 again.
Thepcz  +   741d ago
accept no imitations!
a copy of the mona lisa will always be a copy of the mona lisa. wiiu is the real deal!

only a moron would go out and buy a 'controller' that costs over 100gbp just so they can view the map on the vita. sony need to drop the price of ps3, so adding a vita in a bundle would just hike the price up and make it unappealing.

its a rubbish idea and the market wont buy it. but the wiiu comes configured that way as standard and will be affordable.
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alexcosborn  +   741d ago
Great points.
mshope10  +   741d ago
I can't wait to see what else wii u can do so Sony can copy from that and gamecube and gba or whatever else old shit Nintendo did!
DivineAssault  +   741d ago
Its not going to be the same.. Mostly all wii u titles will use it for one & two, ps3/vita combo games will require separate development & we all know how lazy devs are.. Maybe their 1st party games will do some cool things but it wont shine until ps4 arrives.. Im sure theyre building it w vita in mind.. ppl still wont want to buy 2 separate consoles tho
specialguest  +   741d ago
We all know that the potential capabilities of the ps3/vita could be amazing, but what history has not failed to show us is that Sony sucks at supporting their products. Eyetoy, PS eye, Move, all superior products for its time frame, but severely neglected. The vita could do what the wiiu controller does(remote play) and maybe better(augmented reality) , but it's not happening anytime soon. Wasted opportunity to capitalize on a golden feature.
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ninjahunter  +   741d ago
Wait, does anything actually use the PS3/Vita combo? If not were argueing over something that doesnt even exist.
ninjahunter  +   740d ago
Ask valid question that may undermind the all mighty PS3, 5 lashings!
one2thr  +   741d ago
Combo 1: Is a console with a controller/tablet that requires the home system to stream information/games back and forth within a limited area between the two inorder for it be of any use amongst gamers and that it doesnt require a tv or display seeing that the controller has screen on it...

Combo 2: Is, two stand alone consoles that can act as one for any game(s) that allow this feature. Along with other features such as cross play, cross save, and having to "never stop playing". The handheld counterpart can also act as an actual controller to the more than likely stationary home system, and that the home system and handheld console can also stream information/games in both a limited area/space between the two OR over the internet via wi-fi in a way that turns the home console into a private cloud server for the handheld console that is registered to it via remote play and SEN formally known as PSN....

**There is still information needed about the two combos seeing that I may have NOT covered what both these combos are capable of doing... That is all
(Please excuse my poor sentence structure, and grammar issues. I typed this with a phone)
jayman1  +   740d ago
The kinect sucks its for children. The move is for kids and I wont even use it. The numchchucks wii are for kids to.They are all the same idea for kids.I think Nintendo is nuts trying to launch a whole new system people will not bite this time around.They should have just added to the wii they will pay a steep price for that decision. Vita is brand new and has a decent start. Sony needs to build on that with crossplay and some killer content and features. Im not saying the wii u is not better in fact i think it will be able to do things the Vita simply cannot do. It goes both ways though. I doubt you can make the wii control pad portable if nintendo did that its a different ballgame. I dont see any evidence to say the wii u controller is a portable gaming device.If sony uses vita to it's full potential then watch out. It will be an evolution in gaming if they succeed with this Vita crossplay console gaming idea.
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TronEOL  +   740d ago
Well if Littlebigplanet 2 is telling at all, I'm very interested in how Sony will be using PS3/Vita combo (watch the Gamescom demo for those who don't know).

Just imagine playing an FPS game on the PS3, while using the Vita to help out with Air support, or putting objectives down on the map for them. Maybe even use the Vita as a UAV or something.

Although to be honest, it's hard to see it used outside of Survival modes, or mini-games. Sure you could just use the Vita as a controller and your UI could be on the Vita, but I'd like to see more than just that.

:EDIT: I will say this: We probably won't see anything too great until the PS4 is out. Since I doubt the PS3 can connect with more than one Vita at the moment.
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TheLaughingMan  +   740d ago
Well enough to create controversy
So we are basically assuming that PS3 owners are being given a choice here.Buy a Vita for $300 or $250, and hope games are made for the cross platform play, even though the main console is 6 years old and the Vita isnt selling well with a serious lack of games......

OR

Buy a next gen console, which will most likely cost $250-$300, will come with the second screen in the box, and will have support for the Gamepad from day one. It wont have many games right away, but the games it has will all take advantage of the 2nd screen in variable extents.

So spend $250-$300 on a current portable (again assuming you own a PS3 already,if not the very least $500)....or spend the same amount of money on a brand new console !! This just screams no brainer.
wlchrbandit  +   740d ago
"You also can’t count out the fact that Nintendo possess some of the most creative and talented minds in the industry"

Ah, this explains all of Nintendo's new, groundbreaking IPs and original design choices. I honestly can't remember the last time Nintendo (re)made a Mario or Zelda game. Good on them.
jboy  +   740d ago
wiiU im afraid is the real deal not the pretender unlike the vita ps3 combo.

"Eat it Fanboys"
SegaKnuckles86  +   740d ago
Unlike the WiiU, this will have a grand total of 2 games that support it.
PiperMCFierceson  +   740d ago
i think the vitas lateness is because the want it to work for the ps4. or at least i hope so because i havet to remote play wny game or cross gameplay and i bought it first day.
Qrphe  +   740d ago
I hope many of you realize that the Vita and its functionalities were announced at the same time the Wii U was announced (if not a day earlier).
NastyLeftHook0  +   740d ago
both would be great.
NastyLeftHook0  +   740d ago
i love me some zelda with the wii u.
takohma  +   740d ago
I honestly dont think the Wii U will be as big as the Wii was. I hear hardly anyone talking about it except hardcore gaming sites. Am I the only one for thinking that? I'm not trying to be an a$$ just honestly wondering.
taquito  +   740d ago
well one is last gen, and one is current gen so,....
HalfNerdHalfAmazing  +   740d ago
I don't think they is a lot of ppl that gonna go and buy a ps3 and a vita just to get a the Wii u experience
AWBrawler  +   740d ago
I smell smoke! Here comes the flames! I'm not even going to get in it, because I spoke my mind several times already, so I'll sit back and watch the flames
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