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Submitted by alexcosborn 1272d ago | opinion piece

Why I'm Disinterested In PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale - GameRevolution

GR: "The minute I first got wind that Sony would be bringing us a brawler in the vein of Super Smash Bros., I knew instantly that this would inevitably be a terrible decision for the company. Now don't misunderstand me, I'm not adverse to the game because it rips off Nintendo's popular brawler. I am against the concept because Sony simply can't pull it off." (PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale, PS Vita, PS3)

knifefight  +   1272d ago
"I am against the concept because Sony simply can't pull it off"
^ I feel like this is exactly what people said in like 1993 when the company announced it was going to make a game platform.
Hicken  +   1272d ago
I wonder what even makes them think that?

"... Sony's library of first-party franchises doesn't lend itself to a character mash-up brawler."

THAT'S the reason? As if SSB's characters mesh ANY better?


Somebody please tell me such a sad excuse for writing won't get approved.
Nitrowolf2  +   1272d ago
What a stupid reason indeed.
Sounds to me when he spoke of that he was also saying later that there is no unity among the characters? What does that even mean. I mean what does Zelda have anything to do with Super Mario other then the fact that they are Nintendo? That's like Kratos and Sackboy right there if you ask me.

There are plenty of PS characters, just as much as Nntendo and each of their characters have no common similarities other then the fact that they are Nintendo/Sony.

"The reason Super Smash Bros. is such a beloved game franchise has everything to do with the fact that it capitalizes on Nintendo's strengths. Sony clearly is adept in different areas, namely quality single-player experiences. So instead of copying Nintendo, Sony would have been far better off pouring their resources into a new IP, or (dare I say) better marketing for their tragically overlook exclusive titles."

Well lets see:

Beyond Two Souls
Last of Us
A bunch of new games announced at Gamescom
Last Gaurdian,
the list goes on. Sony has been doing this for a very long time
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TBM  +   1271d ago
i only knew 4-6 characters in ssbm the rest my friend had to give me the rundown on them lol.
XabiDaChosenOne  +   1271d ago
@Jellyjelly "If you actually read the article it takes up some valid concerns."
Nitrowolf2  +   1271d ago

I did read the article and even grabbed quotes.

All those "valid" concerns can be used on SSB. His main argument is that the characters don't mash well because they are completely unrelated to one another -_-
telekineticmantis  +   1271d ago
I think some of what he's saying is fair
but we don't yet have a clue to what brings these characters together, it's called all-stars... maybe that has something to do with the concept.

This game can't get slack for being a Rip Off and being too different at the same time. that's an oxymoron, choose one and continue...

But you're right Ness... Sonic... Ice Climbers?... Mario & Zelda in a game is like putting Nathan drake and Crash Bandicoot in a game, same developer, totally different designs and concepts.
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Tito08  +   1271d ago
@ Jelly- I guess you don't know who the fuck is Alex Osborn, he's like the biggest Sony hater of all, or better say, worst gaming journalists, he appears on every fucking site to talk shit about the PS brand and their games... And he happens to also be in,he likes to troll everywhere!!!!
Nimblest-Assassin  +   1271d ago
Huh... this author has a point.... I mean a god fighting a serial killer a princess and a racoon makes as much sense as an italian plumber fighting a dinosaur, a bounty hunter and an elf

Its completely ridiculous /s

I want to get into this beta, because in the end, its how fun the game is that matters in this genre
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showtimefolks  +   1272d ago
OP you just another hater hating on this game. People get over it. Right now the development team has most of the fighting game people working on this title so it can't all that bad.

and everyone i know who has played the beta has praised it. Let's see when its released till than shut up.

Nintendo fanboys so you hate darksiders because its too much like zelda too? almost every game takes some other games idea and do 2 thing either copy and paste or improve on it. Let's hope this game brings something new to the table.

every day we have to get another article on why the game will be bad. If people are hating on this game that much than there must be something sony is doing right. And i hope they announce more 3rd party characters who the heck cares whether that mesh together. Its called battle royal so anything and any goes.
alexcosborn  +   1271d ago
So unless I'm willing praise the game before its release I should shut up?

If you don't agree with my opinion that is fine, but I should be able to share my feelings on the game regardless of whether or not it is in line with yours.
Eyeco  +   1271d ago
I don't care to much for the game either but then again i can see th appeal allot of people do, allot of people are looking forward to this game, so anything I can say against the game is pretty much irrelevant.
That said I would rather Sony have remade Bushido Blade instead that game was an incredible ps1 fighter
knifefight  +   1271d ago
Sony didn't make Bushido Blade though, that was Squaresoft (now known as Square Enix).
Nimblest-Assassin  +   1271d ago
Its a really bad reason to complain about
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smashcrashbash  +   1272d ago
Come on we heard all this before.We heard the whole 'Sony can't pull it off' story. And Nintendo can pull it off simply because they are Nintendo. No matter how hard you try to convince anyone SSB characters didn't mix well either. You pretend that they do but watching Jiggly Puff and Kirby fight Snake or Samus or Ganon never fit well at all. It is as strange as Sly and Parappa fight Drake and Kratos. If you ever played SSB at all many characters were twice as big as others like King Koopa and some practically miniscule compare to others.It is just the fanboy delusion that the characters fit well together in SSB while they didn't really at all.

And don't tell me that they did. I played SSBB all the time and it never escaped me how awkward fighting Ness was with Samus and Marth. And BTW i would like to again point out that many characters in Nintendo's line up are characters not used in decades and that despite fanboy delusions several of Sony characters are well known like Parappa,Sir Dan,Spike,Heihachi and Sweet Tooth? Am I the only one who remembers that hundreds of millions of people owned PlayStations back then and that many modern gamers still remember these people and that many modern gamers haven't a clue who Marth, Ness,Pit,Ice Climbers, ROB or Mr Game and Watch are?

More people probably know who Sly,Jak and Ratchet are more then they know who Ness and Ice Climbers are. Just because Nintendo dug them from out of their basement after not using them for twenty plus years doesn't make them relevant. Sony has modern relevance on their side. Nintendo has to dig up the distant ancient past just to fill out their roster
HammadTheBeast  +   1271d ago
The thing is, if you make these type of games, the whole appeal is that the characters don't fit, yet are somehow put together to kick ass.

This kills the guys whole argument.
Xof  +   1272d ago | Well said
Great. I'd love to tell you about all the games I'm not interested in, but I'm not interested enough to bother.
scotchmouth  +   1271d ago
Ha! One of the better replies I've read here!
miyamoto  +   1271d ago
You pounded it into his head!
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smashcrashbash  +   1272d ago
And also like has been said time and time again it would be simple as mashing buttons to get a super attack IF people stood still and just let you hit them but between rolls, guard breaks, dodges and other assorted moves it is not that simple. You also have to avoid being hit or destroyed or else you will still lose in the end.People still talk as if all you have t5o do is press a few buttons and you automatically win. Do you really think that that your opponents will just allow you to do this. Also how is this so much different then SSB? Besides falls and certain weapons you couldn't knock anyone away unless you used a smash attack. So how is it any different from pushing the attack button as fast as you can to get a 100% to do a smash?
SageHonor  +   1272d ago
I think the game is gonna be good. I dont think it'll sell as well as i hope though
ThatArtGuy  +   1272d ago
I think it'll be a sleeper. Modest at first, then better as it sells and word of mouth starts happening. I think the proof will be in the pudding.
SolidDuck  +   1272d ago
I do think its a risk. Cause what ssb does, it does very well. And no matter what it will be directly compared to it. But so far it looks good and people in the beta have said good things about it. I think its going to be a blast.
HebrewHammer  +   1272d ago
I kinda see where trhe guy is coming from, but as I'm one of those selected to be in the beta, one thing is very clear to me. They can, and have "pulled it off."

I love it
MySwordIsHeavenly  +   1272d ago
They pulled it off pretty well, actually...

The beta is my favorite thing to do right now.
Nimblest-Assassin  +   1271d ago
f**k you.... no offense

I have been participating in idiotic facebook contests, for the last 2 weeks, and I still come up empty handed

I've been a PS plus member since day 1, and nothing :(
MySwordIsHeavenly  +   1271d ago
It is mostly based on your involvement in PlayStation, your record with helping developers in previous betas, and your background with fighting games.

Sorry you didn't get in, man. The closed beta extends to Plus members in September. :)
Nimblest-Assassin  +   1270d ago
Are you serious? September?

I start university in september, I have no time to play it... that means that getting in early is my only chance to really play it

Even though I get to try it on thursday, I need more time to appretiate the game F**K
MySwordIsHeavenly  +   1270d ago
Haha. I totally understand, man. I'm sorry that you only get a little bit of time with it.
Knushwood Butt  +   1272d ago
I really don't understand why anyone would go out of their way to write about something they are not interested in.

I'm not interested in opera, but I don't go writing about the fact.
alexcosborn  +   1271d ago
I initially was very interested in this title, having been a Super Smash fan and all years ago. I don't typically like fighting games, but this brawler had my interest piqued. However, after spending some time with it first hand, I have to admit that my interest in the title waned considerably. This article explains to you why.

If you don't understand why I wrote it, why did you click on the article and bother to comment?
MysticStrummer  +   1271d ago
"If you don't understand why I wrote it, why did you click on the article and bother to comment?"

Probably because worthless opinion articles like this have become all too common on N4G, and it's irritating for those who come to this site for news.
MySwordIsHeavenly  +   1271d ago
I understand why you wrote it, but I don't understand your reasoning. I have enjoyed every second of this beta.
abc1233  +   1272d ago
It just sounds to me as though he's pulling reasons out of his ass
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Treian  +   1272d ago
and why should I care? The game will sell great regardless.
alexcosborn  +   1271d ago
I hope for SuperBot's sake it does, but I'm not so confident that will be the case.
yokokoroma  +   1272d ago
"I'm not adverse to the game because it rips off Nintendo's popular brawler. I am against the concept because Sony simply can't pull it off."

This opinion piece is laughable (good thing it's your opinion, otherwise you would be ostracized for such blatant ignorance) take note of what I quoted from what you wrote. SONY can't pull off a SSB type game?? have you seen the same game, Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale, is an exact duplicate of SSB, it's gameplay mechanics are identical, with the exception of what Superbot tweaked to make the game their own. If anything, that's the problem, Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale, is too much like SSB. The premise of Playstation greats battling it out is great, but instead of going the SSB route, SONY/Superbot should've went with a beat em up type game, i.e. Gekido, basically a more fighting based game instead of a party based brawler.
jonboi24  +   1272d ago
I think PASBR actually does stands on it's own. Its like Fatal Fury 2 and Super Street Fighter 2 two iconic fighting games. Two fighting games that to some may seem similar but are two completely different fighting games. You would be surprised how much adding or tweaking gameplay mechanics can change a game, especially a fighting game.

You look at the PASBR on the surface and if you go in thinking it's exactly the same you will get dominated. You have to completely change your smash bros mind set when playing it and you will see a world of deference. In Smash the character variety aren't all varied as one would think. Most if not all character are based on one concept, get in close and smash. In smash you never get that one true specialist other than the close-up fighter. You don't get to see someone like Conolel Redec or Sackboy who's main purpose is to stay far away and zone there enemies as far away as possible. The closest smash has is Link and Samus, characters that are balanced in long and close range options. The reason it's like this for Smash is because it favors their knockout mechanics. You never spend a whole round with Link and Samus playing from a far because other than Samus fully charged shots you can't get knockouts that way. In the end what will truly differentiate the two are it's characters and how they work within each games' game mechanics. That's how all fighting games differ from each other.
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ALLWRONG  +   1271d ago
It's a SB clone
jonboi24  +   1271d ago
Nothing wrong with copying an idea and adding to it. Video game history has proven it works and that the game can stand on its own. Sonic is a Mario clone with added speed and blast processing. Castlevania Symphony of the Night one the greatest games ever is a Metroid clone. He'll even Smash Bros stole some ideas from the arcade game it was inspired by, The Outfoxies.
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dorron  +   1272d ago
Since they announced Crossbuy it's a must buy for me.
garos82  +   1272d ago
agreed in fact ive never owned a portable console before but im considering getting the vita for this one. besides i have two controllers at home plus the vita would be perfect for 3 player matches with my house mates.
jonboi24  +   1272d ago
Just once I would like to hear these journalist come up with an original argument. It's a rip-off, the characters aren't up to Nintendo's standards, it won't come close to smash, Superbot can't pull it off, and etc. Really do people actually need to here this? Every one is entitled to their own opinion but be a professional and at least wait till it's actually out. Even in its beta form it doesn't fully represents the final product. Though my two cents, all bugs and balancing issues aside the beta is sheer awesomeness.
b_one  +   1271d ago
Kill bad journalism by negative voting ;)
P_Bomb  +   1271d ago
Article's unabashedly partisan, to a fault even. The exact same "negatives" like the roster having a variety of charachters can be applied as a "discord" in SSB as well.

There's more 'capitalising on Nintendo's strengths' in SSB? Writer doesn't define what that means. You need to give examples. If anything Sony's brawler has a strength in being more contemporary with newer exclusive IPs and revolving backgrounds with even more non-playable NPCs (Buzz, Hades, Qwark etc).

Saying Sony should instead invest in creating more new IPs is puzzling to anyone who watched Gamescom and the debut of several new IPs including the Puppeteer, Tearaway, Rain, Until Dawn and presentations for Ni No Kuni, The Last of Us, and Beyond: Two Souls. Ironically, PS:AllStars is itself a new IP.

[QUOTE]Please don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that this is by any means a bad thing.[/QUOTE]

Sure you are. You admit you called it a "gaming travesty" before you had even played it. Your mind was already made up.

[QUOTE]An expansive selection of vastly different types of games is what makes Sony's platform so great; however, shoehorning them all into a fighting game is absolutely ridiculous[/QUOTE]

Except when Nintendo did the exact same thing you called it "capitalising on Nintendo's strengths."

[QUOTE] but because Sony doesn't have the overarching sense of unity among its franchises, it ultimately fails in this regard.[/QUOTE]

The overarching sense of unity is they're almost all brand name exclusive charachters (Nathan Drake, Kratos, The Helghast, Sackboy, Nariko, Ratchet, Jak, Sly, Sweet Tooth, Cole McGrath) sitting on my shelf right now with some 3rd party ones (BigDaddy, Dante, Heihachi) as well.

SSBB had R.O.B the robot (a peripheral from over 25 years ago) alongside Mr 'Genesis does what Nintendon't himself (Sonic), a Pokemon and a race car driver from F-Zero. What's the unity, other than they're all old as sin?
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Quiescent  +   1271d ago
So far the beta actually been more enjoyable and of a challenge then SSBB IMO but i respect his opinion but do not agree with him in the slightest.
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brew  +   1271d ago
Sony pulled it off quite well from what I've seen. It makes for an interesting mashup of styles , stages , and music. They made it a fun mashup for all instead of just a Mortal Kombat style game with the "reallistic" types , or just all of the all cartoony types that they could have.

When you see things like -

- Fat Princess chasing a fleeing Radec on a giant Chicken trying to KO him
- Parappa doing his thousand kick move on top of Big Daddy's head
- Drake shooting Parappa at point blank range as he falls flat to the ground in his 2D form
- Sackboy suplexing new Dante

It all just works well. They nailed the fun aspect of the mashup. This game has a certian charm to it that's all its own.

Most of Sony's characters are pretty easy to translate to the game - Kratos , Cole , Ratchet , Drake , Jak , Sly , etc ..... they are going to play and feel like we would mostly expect them to from their games. And some of the others like Sweet Tooth , Parappa , and Fat Princess .... they did a good job of capturing their essence well for a game of this type.

I'd consider the contrast of the mashup and how they translated the characters as strengths.
Morgue  +   1271d ago
Ha. After this I've officially gave up on reading " opinion " based articles.
jjb1981  +   1271d ago
This guy is a weenie face...
YodaCracker  +   1271d ago
The big difference between SSB and Battle Royale is that one is a multi-million selling successful franchise and the other will be lucky to break 1 million sales.
vividi  +   1271d ago
no argument = money argument
dboyman  +   1271d ago
I hope this game goes well, and may get it. But I wish would have done more of a grand epic crossover rpg/action rpg like Kingdom Hearts or something else with an epic story instead...
Ethereal  +   1271d ago
Hate to break it to you but they are doing it.

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