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Submitted by Sensu 762d ago | news

PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale delayed due to bad balancing and more

PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale, Sony's upcoming brawler game, got delayed a few days ago. No exact reason for this delay was given, but the GamesCom proved to be the outcome! Here's why it got delayed... (Gamescom 2012, PS Vita, PS3, Sony, SuperBot Entertainment)

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Whitefeather  +   762d ago
I would have written it as to improve balancing and more but whatever.
Sensu  +   762d ago
Good point. Should've done that instead...
greenpowerz  +   762d ago
Not good balancing then?
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tdogg06051991  +   762d ago
They could of meant that
Sometimes these translations come out in Engrish
Durffen  +   761d ago
Of course you would have, fanboy.
princejb134  +   762d ago
i love when games are balanced
Tvensky  +   761d ago
It depends on a game.. If its a simulation type game.. then it needs to be as real as possible, balancing would spoil the game.

But yes, games like "All-Stars Battle Royale" strongly needs good balancing!
toxic-inferno  +   761d ago
True, but then with these games, it's always important to have some characters which are easier to use than others. Some characters have to be more technically challenging to play as, and therefore harder to win with.
ghostman123  +   762d ago
So the delay was to a) fix the network connectivity and get the online mode working well and b) better balance out the characters so one isn't super overpowered and the other is super lame?

That sounds like the two main problems I had with Super Smash Bros Brawl. Terrible online that takes forever to get a game and very poor balance. I'm happy they delayed it to fix those things, just means a better game. Besides, it's only an extra month, unlike most game delays which are much longer. Bioshock Infinite got a 5 month delay from it's original date.
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princejb134  +   762d ago
im happy they delayed it also so they can work out the balancing issues
but i also did wish i could get my hands on it now
i currently have nothing to play=[
NBT91  +   762d ago
Trust me, there is not much to do on there, six characters and even less stages as of now...
But they updated it today, so by the time it goes public there may be even more content! =)
MySwordIsHeavenly  +   762d ago
Even with six characters, it's a total BLAST to play! I just wish we could get some local multi-player going. :/
StrawberryDiesel420  +   761d ago
How could you have nothing to play?? There are so many games on PS3 that I bet you haven't played. Between PSN games and retail releases, there's always something to play.
princejb134  +   760d ago
@strawberry

yea theres a few but i prefer getting a game that i could play online that will the 60 dollar price tag is worth it for its replay ability
-Alpha  +   762d ago
The game is delayed because, as I understood it, SB wanted to implement some of the feedback from the private beta testers gave.

This article is ludicrously worded, to say that the balance is bad is misleading and paints a wrong impression. I don't know if it's because of the translation, but it comes off all wrong
NBT91  +   762d ago
Yeah, the balance issues were not a problem for me personally.
The problems were that, some of the supers fail to activate at times, or cause all other characters to permanently freeze (level 3 supers occasionally give out bugs)

Freezing at end of rounds occasionally, not being able to play with friends, no lobbies, just play with randomers and you have to find new players every game....

Granted its a beta, but with only like.... Three months is it to release? It is not entirely great. Even if they are only testing the networking itself, it needs work.
Sono421  +   761d ago
The online in Brawl yes I agree with, but the characters needing to be more balanced? Definitely not.
ChunkyLover53  +   762d ago
Well better to be delayed then shipped broken.
CanadianTurtle  +   762d ago
Ya, its better to not get the angry Nintendo fanboys to be crazier than they already are about this game.
Sgt_Slaughter  +   762d ago
The only ones who are mad are the Xbox 360 fans who won't ever have a 4-player mash-up fighting game because they would only have like 6 characters.

Anyway, I hope I can get the Vita before the release date because this looks so much fun.
Nexgensensation  +   762d ago
@Sgt_Slaughter
actually thats all they need! M$ just need to draft a couple 3rd party characters
ZeroWil  +   761d ago
Why does everyone think 360 fans want a 4-player fighting game? I personally don't want one, especially since I could just play the SSB games. >_>
rezzah  +   762d ago
Makes me think of games shipped with a day one patch.
juaburg  +   762d ago
Ice cream, anyone? Nom nom nom
Devinchi33  +   762d ago
Good. This was one of my main concerns with this game. I feel like it's really hard to give one character move cancelling combo goodness (Dante) while most other characters lack that, and still be able to keep balance. Show us what you can do.
NeoTribe  +   762d ago
Good. Hope they perfect it. Lots of other good games to hold us off imo until its ready.
ado908  +   762d ago
As long as the game is in high quality take all the time you need
Nexgensensation  +   762d ago
So your telling me...
we have gamers on n4g who's playing the beta overlooking this issue?

and no one here said anything about it?

why is this issue now news when this issue should have been reported?

who is really playing the beta?
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MySwordIsHeavenly  +   762d ago
I'm in the beta. The reason people aren't mentioning it is that they don't see it. There is a huge debate in the beta forums for this. Some people say the balancing is fine. Others say Kratos or Parappa are overpowered.

I have played a good twenty hours of the beta, so far. I have not noticed any balancing issues, but there are veteran fighting game fans in the beta who do recognize it.

It doesn't matter how much Superbot fixes this. Gamers will say it's unbalanced, regardless.
Outside_ofthe_Box  +   762d ago
You can never perfectly balance a game. Perfection is impossible to achieve, but you can always attempt to get close. There are always going to be characters that are better than the others.

Actually you can make a game perfectly balanced, but it would require all the characters to play exactly the same, but where's the fun in that?
Nexgensensation  +   761d ago
@MySwordIsHeavenly
so tell me this. who here on n4g played this beta longer than you?

@Outside_ofthe_Box  
that makes wonder... have you tried ever in your life to perfect some sort of skill?
MySwordIsHeavenly  +   760d ago
I'm not sure. I don't talk to people on N4G...outside of N4G. That would be weird. O_o

I don't actually know what you're getting at by saying that though. It seems negative, but you need to specify what you mean.
Hicken  +   761d ago
Way to try and be negative. Instead of looking at it for what it is- SuperBot responding to tester input and adjusting the game accordingly- you want to look at it as some sort of sign that people are "overlooking" the issue? It's "news" because it's been revealed that they delayed the game to address the problem. You know what that means?

It means it was reported, genius.

Also, it has been said that Parappa, at least, is a bit too powerful.
Swiggins  +   762d ago
Kratos needs a HEAVY nerf, dude hits like a truck from across the map, and his specials are damn near rediculous.

Besides that I didn't see anything particularly gamebreaking...
ProjectDeputy  +   761d ago
haha
oh cmon m8 its fcking kratos he is suposed to rape ppl hahaha
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iWishTifaWasReal  +   761d ago
use the delay time to get:

-CRASH
-Spyro
-Tomba
-Musashi
-Bomberman
-Pacman (i know not a playstation icon but just imagine it)
-Old Snake
-Any character from Final Fantasy
-Any character from Resident Evil series
-Ezio or the new guy from AC3 (the new guy is prolly the best pick for promoting the game)

and Nissan GT-R from Gran Turismo *im kidding
Dark_Overlord  +   761d ago
"and Nissan GT-R from Gran Turismo *im kidding"

Could be possible, did you ever play Fighters Megamix on the Saturn? They had the Daytona car as a fighter :D
pixelsword  +   761d ago
I remember that!

Seeing a car do a Sagat uppercut would make my day.

"Carppercut!"
Relientk77  +   761d ago
Brave Fencer Musashi
Spyro
Crash

would love to see them in the game
showtimefolks  +   761d ago
So they hired the guy who did a lot of work for capcom with their fighting franchises and all of the sudden the game gets delayed. But I rather wat an extra month so at least they can ship a better package

Let's get one thing straight getting 100% balanced in a fighting game is impossible. Some fans playing beta are saying everything is good others are saying it needs better balancing so at least SB games are listening to their testers and fans and improving the game

About how long is this game been in development? Because it was announced this year and coming out this year. Most of the times with Sony 1st party games once announced its usually 1-2 years before release. I just hope Sony isn't rushing it just for a fall launch. This game could be a big hit if done right
Reggonoy  +   761d ago
Did anyone watch the latest Invisible Walls? They absolutely tore the game apart.

They start discussing it at the 13 min 45 sec mark.

"I think it's a game so crappy that only a fanboy could love it."

"I think it's really bad..."

http://www.gametrailers.com...

IGN will score the game quite high because Greg Miller and Colin Moriarty absolutely love Playstation. But every other site will likely score this game in the 6's or 7's. I wouldn't be surprised if either EDGE or Eurogamer scores it even lower.
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MySwordIsHeavenly  +   760d ago
These idiots have NO idea what they're talking about. The guy from Capcom is just another employee that they hired. They've been hiring since they opened. Almost every person in the team has experience with fighting games; most of them coming from Namco or Capcom fighting developers.

Why would you EVER listen to those idiots?
capcock  +   761d ago
balance and pace is much more important than the number of characters.
Drainage  +   761d ago
you cant test the balance of a game without putting in PROS in the game. Putting a bunch of little kiddy PS + members will just give them false info "too hard, character sucks" "i lost so the other character is Overpowered!" etc
NIRVANArazor  +   761d ago
thats why its not just for PS+ members
MySwordIsHeavenly  +   760d ago
The first beta was invite-only for gamers who have won championships in fighting games.

Now, the beta is invite-only for PlayStation owners who have given honest, helpful feedback on other betas and who play fighting games the most.

You were saying...
ChronoJoe  +   761d ago
Sweet. I'm glad they're considering this games quality.

Starhawk should have been delayed. Twisted Metal should have been delayed. They weren't, and they released broken / unbalanced.

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