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Why a $150 million Star Wars game is going free

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Electronic Arts shook up the video gaming field last week with a major price change: Star Wars: The Old Republic, one of the most ambitious and expensive multiplayer games ever made, would soon drop its subscription fees.

The move essentially marks the end of the traditional business model for "massively multiplayer" online games, better known as MMOs. Almost every major publisher has now given in and eliminated its monthly fees -- the genre's bread-and-butter business model for the past 15 years -- relying instead on sales of premium content or virtual items to make money.

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jc485734269d ago (Edited 4269d ago )

Square Enix needs to drop its subscription too for both Dragon Quest X and Final Fantasy XIV. I play by my own time.

ATi_Elite4269d ago

cause it's NOT worth $15 a month!

EA has already made their money back plus some from the 3 million plus sales of SWTOR and the first 3 months of 2 million gamers paying $15 a month in subscriptions.

But the Subscription base has fallen GREATLY so EA is going to the popular F2P format to keep the game relevant and making easy money.

But all this doesn't matter cause once Guild Wars 2 gets released SWTOR is DEAD!

Soldierone4269d ago

Because Pay-to-win models make a crap ton of money. Might as well make extra money with people buying the game and subscribing for a while, then go make bank and pure profit off pay-to-win fee's, I mean free-to-play models.....

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4269d ago (Edited 4269d ago )

Like LoL, Planetside & tf2? free 2 play doesn't = pay to win.. That is an internet myth. But yes pay 2 win games do exist.

Soldierone4269d ago

There was a time when DLC also meant "ADDITIONAL CONTENT" but today it feels like 90 percent of it is "the rest of the game."

Free-to-play will do the exact same thing. Facebook is already there. There will be several GOOD free-to-play games to entice people into supporting the model, and then it will eventually be pay-to-win a majority of the time.

StayStatic4268d ago (Edited 4268d ago )

"pay-to-win a majority of the time"

Get a grip you don't even know what your talking about , such ignorance , expect nothing less from someone who doesn't play or understand them.

" Pay-to-win models make a crap ton of money"

So does cod but you don't have to slap it all up front and feel ripped off by your purchase , don't like a f2p game ? no more micro transactions necessary , don't like cod ? have to spend more money trading it in , SIMPLES !

Soldierone4268d ago

Nice trolling, have nothing better to do today? Please tell me more about my ignorance since your reply failed to bring any fact to the table proving me wrong.

Dont like COD? Cool pay 60 bucks upfront and keep it, take it back and get 30 dollars back if you don't. Dont like F2P COD? Cool pay 60 dollars to get anywhere in the game, then pay another 100 bucks for micro transaction crap if you do happen to like it....Want to compete with the best? Well that'll be 5 dollars for the in-game gun, one dollar per attachment, 1 dollar per perk, 1 dollar per killstreak....oh "but you don't HAVE to pay for this stuff to play the game" yep enjoy your peon basic gun with basic perks and bare bones gameplay then, or wait a month to finally level up....

Like I said (don't worry I understand some people fail to read entire things) not ALL F2P games are bad, but to think certain greedy publishers won't exploit them to the fullest is stupid......

kesvalk4268d ago

go play Aion, completely Free to Play.

also Dota 2, Alien swarm, TF2 and PSO2

GamerToons4269d ago

It really wasn't a surprise to most gamers that follow the mmo market. Also F2P is not the same as pay to win and whoever says that doesn't know crap.

deletingthis346753344268d ago

Actually YOU are the one that doesn't know shit. In F2P MMOs you are as good as the money you spend on it. Ever seen a big behemoth character with the most overpowered weaponry and armour? Chances are he wasted thousands of cash just to build the character. Why spend 8000 hours in pointless grinding when you can just get a fifth job in real life to afford it all? Sounds like a paid to win model to me.

Soldierone4268d ago

I like how everyone defending "F2P" either lists the SAME games over and over again, and never goes outside the box, and never follows up with reasoning to defend it. Some of us are just not blind and can see where F2P WILL go, that doesn't make us idiots....

Do you honestly think developers are creating Free-to-play titles on purpose and changing their entire studio direction into them for no reason at all? They are just there to give you games for free? Its all charity because you enjoy games and their 60 dollar games are not needed? lmao no....Same with the DLC push, as I said, "look its great, we can add on to games, jump on board!" few years later "look we can't even put a full game on a disc, buy the rest on the DLC store!"

aquamala4269d ago

I like paying for content so much more than paying per month, when I pay $15 for a month of MMO I feel like I should only play that game in the month, and I just hate that, I have other games I want to play.

Puddlejumper754269d ago

I have yet to play a pay to play MMO game that didnt offer tons of free content that was added as the game went on...

WoW being a perfect example. I got more free updates/upgrades from them over the years than a lot of companies put into expansions that they charge for.

Menchi4269d ago

Ugh, good thing I didn't bother with the game. There is a distinct lack of quality wen comparing games that are "Free to Play" and monthly subscription.

Yes, it sounds great in theory, and I can see why publishers love it. But the truth is, most cases, games become less supported and content ends becoming "Pay to Win"

It suits shallow, casual, pop in and go MMOs, which, is actually the entire market right now... Can't wait for a deep, content heavy MMO to come out again.

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EA Hopes to Use Generative AI to Drive Monetization and Make Development 30% More Efficient

Today Electronic Arts CEO Andrew Wilson provided a look into his ideas for the use of generative AI in the company's development processes.

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thorstein44d ago

I wonder what the next buzz word they'll slap in front of AI to make it sound exciting next? "Generative" as if it's creating its own content. Lol.

Cacabunga43d ago

EA is already dying a painful death..

peppeaccardo43d ago

i have a better idea .. why the whole exec team doesn't get replaced by chat bots ?

just_looken43d ago

Though i agree the ai thing is already in other forms of media there have been ai translations/scripts/voice over and even full ai commercials aired on tv. Ubisoft has created a ai game creator story/vo/music except the building of the game

The new unreal engine has auto terrain creation tools

In the world of greed in which it is winning without any major blow back ai is our future.

everyone want's biden dead on the mic or a criminal instead of a woman and now we are getting ai everything because no one will stop watching/playing ai created media.

GamerRN43d ago

Maybe they should just focus on making good games?

Just a thought...

Kiryu199242d ago

Exactly EA are just pure evil. When they are beating Bank of America to be voted the worst company to work for that’s saying a lot

Good thing I don’t buy their games day one and wait for deep deep sale years after launch (the select few games I am actually interested in)

Gaming is making so much money yet the greed of these companies is never ending

CEO’s and people on board making millions yet cutting jobs to those who are actually making the products

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Knightofelemia43d ago (Edited 43d ago )

EA is still a shady shitty company even with or without the help of Skynet. All they will use AI for is new ways to milk loot boxes and come up with the same sports title with a different year on the label. They are one company I truly do hate with a passion. They single handedly ruined some great franchise with their death touch. ME, Dead Space, Alice Returns, Dante's Inferno.

Stuart575643d ago

EA layoffs followed by 'Generative AI to Drive Monetization'

I knew it. Wonder what AI salary looks like? Nothing.

ChasterMies43d ago

I having a feeling that most of the layoffs in the industry are based on the idea that AI will do the same job for less.

DarXyde42d ago

Very likely, yes.

Made worse by the fact that the execs aren't changing their compensations.

My deepest fear at this point is that we are now in the capitalism endgame.

At this point, we really should just burn AI to the ground. Executives cannot be trusted to do the right thing.
How are those people expected to support families if everything gets automated?

Barlos43d ago (Edited 43d ago )

And take away creativity, and people's jobs as we've been seeing. Got it.

No thanks. I want my games created by people, not AI.

CobraKai43d ago

Exactly. If or when games start becoming more AI than people, im done with gaming. AI and companies like EA can suck donkey d***k.

just_looken43d ago

Though i agree remember this is no ps3/360 era were we got up to 3 games in one generation from on developer like gears/halo/bioware/sony/ms

The people today are pro esg/sweet baby for the most part AAA gaming is imploding right now.

We should be stepping back re evaluate everything as a whole this year xmen 97 written/directed by a woman that is nuts and its also being made by a group reshaping bodies to be less sexual like wtf. A dam famous cartoon from the 90's is being rebuilt with millions spent to be worse in everyway.

Gaming/movies/tv shows made today are worse than what we had 7years ago ai won't change this but that ai is also being made by these groups so either way we are screwed.
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Eonjay42d ago

Don't be of afraid of women. Sexy characters in games and movies still exist. Got my Stellar Blade on preorder!!! Everything all the time doesn't need to be sexual...that's stupid, childish and dull.

Chocoburger43d ago (Edited 43d ago )

EA doesn't want to lose their title of worst gaming company ever, always trying their best to remain the champs!
What's sad is that they have so much potential to be a decent publisher.

SSX Tricky / SSX 3
Def Jam Vendetta / Fight for New York
NBA Street
NFL Steet
Mirror's Edge
Bad Company
Burnout 3 / 4 / 5

Remember when EA used to be awesome? It's all over with now. Unpolished, if not out-right broken games these days. Endless monetization and gambling in their sports games, and let's not forget wasting hours of your life trying to unlock characters or equipment using "surprise boxes!"

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EA And Sony Layoffs, Entertainment News And More Skewedcast

Gareth, Justin, and JoeyZ look at Layoff news for EA and Sony and reasons behind the downturn in the industry and more.

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EA - Continuing to evolve our business and teams

EA CEO Andrew Wilson writes: "In this time of change, we expect these decisions to impact approximately 5 percent of our workforce. I understand this will create uncertainty and be challenging for many who have worked with such dedication and passion and have made important contributions to our company. While not every team will be impacted, this is the hardest part of these changes, and we have deeply considered every option to try and limit impacts to our teams. Our primary goal is to provide team members with opportunities to find new roles and paths to transition onto other projects. Where that’s not possible, we will support and work with each colleague with the utmost attention, care, and respect. Communicating these impacts has already begun and will be largely completed by early next quarter."

LG_Fox_Brazil51d ago

All the big ones doing the same stuff. Terrible. I just hope that all these people are able to get a new job as soon as possible, God know that it is horrible to be left jobless when you have your kids or your parents depending on your financial help

Jin_Sakai51d ago (Edited 51d ago )

2024 so far.

Feb ’28 Electronic Arts (EA) 670 (5%)
Feb ’24 PlayStation 900 (8%)
Feb ’24 Vice Media Group Several hundred
Feb ’24 Buzzfeed 16%
Feb ’24 NowThis 26 (50%)
Feb ’24 Paramount Global 800 (3%)
Feb ’24 SiriusXM 160 (3%)
Feb ’24 Snapchat 10%
Jan ’24 TechCrunch 8 + subscription product
Jan ’24 U.K.’s Channel 4 200
Jan ’24 Business Insider 8%
Jan ’24 Microsoft Gaming 1,900
Jan ’24 Riot Games 530
Jan ’24 Sports Illustrated Possibly all
Jan ’24 YouTube 100
Jan ’24 Pitchfork (Conde Nast) Undisclosed
Jan ’24 Universal Music Group Hundreds
Jan ’24 Discord 17%
Jan ’24 NBC News 50-100
Jan ’24 Audible 5%
Jan ’24 Google Hundreds
Jan ’24 Amazon Hundreds
Jan ’24 Duolingo 10%
Jan ’24 VideoAmp 20%

DATA AS OF FEB. 28, 2024

outsider162451d ago

Is it possible maybe this whole ai thing is in play?

just_looken50d ago

Another long list that skips over UPS cutting 12,000 jobs those workers as we know work without ac low pay and old box trucks but that company had to cut 12k jobs do too loosing billions of dollars year 2 year.

https://edition.cnn.com/202...

The greed and lack of transparency/oversight is disgusting.

Ups are still making bang but not enough for a golden boat fleet.

Remember we all use ups at some time even stuff in our stores this is going to be a huge issue gong forward i know in my area they removed half the state ups stores northern half least population got some 3rd party running packages now from minivans.

Sonic188150d ago

When I explan this I get called a troll 🤔 like wtf

thorstein50d ago

@just_looken

UPS is a different story altogether.

They are paying the people doing the actual work/ earning the money more and eliminating management.

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CrimsonWing6951d ago (Edited 51d ago )

You do realize around this time this happens all throughout many industries (not just the game industry), right? It has to do with taxes for these major companies, like tax subsidies for downsizing. You want to know a little secret? Around May or so you’ll see a spike in hiring…

It blows my mind that people are oblivious to corporate workings.

Andrew33651d ago

So over 25 huge companies cut jobs every year like this and it only got noticed this time?

CrimsonWing6951d ago (Edited 51d ago )

@Andrew336

Yes, that’s exactly what I’m saying. Google it up if you’re uninformed of how corporations work. Only gamers seem to live in a bubble and when they see things like crunch, acquisitions, and lay-offs they act like this is the only industry it happens to and how shocked they are about it.

Welcome to the real world, kid.

thorstein50d ago (Edited 50d ago )

EA CEO Wilson's total compensation was 20 million. Let's take away 19 million (I'm sure he can survive on 1 million.... somehow).

1 million is the salary of an in the chair developer @100,000 for 10 years.

He could earn 1 million a year.

And save the jobs of 15 in the chair devs for A DECADE (plus benefits) with ONE YEAR'S compensation.

RhinoGamer8851d ago

No Executive accountability or firings I see...

just_looken50d ago

Do not worry they will take over 40mill say sorry then get hired by playstation or xbox

blackblades50d ago

I heard Japan does it better, they do layoffs like what's happening with companies in the west. The higher ups also being agreeing to to lower there own salary. These MFs like jim and Phil isnt gonna do that they want that $

Sonic188151d ago

Like I said earlier, this is happening all around the gaming industry.

Petebloodyonion51d ago

The point I feel is problematic about all of this is that focusing on Owned Ip means more sequels, remasters and more of what was selling last year.

TheColbertinator51d ago

EA is certainly among the worst,if not the worst

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