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Vita sales 'acceptable' - PlayStation US boss

Sony Computer Entertainment America CEO Jack Tretton has labelled Vita sales "acceptable". (PS Vita)

xXtremeHDGamerXx  +   288d ago
I thinking maybe Sony just don't give a damn anymore or there
panning on drop a bombshell at Gamescom.
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Abash  +   288d ago
LittleBigPlanet PS Vita is releasing next month, then Assassain's Creed III: Liberation and Persona 4 Golden the month after, followed by Call of Duty: Black Ops Declassified.

Sony is aware they have a strong holiday line-up for Vita, it's first holiday line-up. Yet everyone *desperately* wants to ignore this and pretend the Vita is dead
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LOGICWINS  +   288d ago
"LittleBigPlanet PS Vita is releasing next month, then Assassain's Creed III: Liberation and Persona 4 Golden the month after, followed by Call of Duty: Black Ops Declassified.

Sony is aware they have a strong holiday line-up for Vita, it's first holiday line-up. Yet everyone *desperately* wants to ignore this and pretend the Vita is dead"

Thats the problem right there. We have a port, a spinoff, a remake of a four year old game, and another spinoff....and you say thats a strong holiday line-up?
Avernus  +   288d ago
Seems a pretty strong line up imo. Sales will rise for the holidays, and hopefully continue to rise as more titles come.

I'm interested in seeing FIFA for Vita.
LOGICWINS  +   288d ago
I hope sales rise as well. Vita has tons of potential, but if Sony doesn't start giving us UNIQUE VITA EXCLUSIVE gaming experiences, Vita will never be the success that it should be.
Abash  +   288d ago
Oh come on Logic, cant you do better than that? First of all, you look completely ignorant saying that LBP PS Vita is a port. It's a brand new LittleBigPlanet game, with all new levels and features.

Next its quite funny how you say "spin-off" as if it's a bad thing, when we're talking about a *handheld* here. I for one am happy that the Vita is getting Liberation and Black Ops Declassified as exclusives, I would not be interested in Vita ports of games I can play on my consoles. These are all new experiences made for Vita, and fans of LBP, AC, and CoD will be getting a Vita to get these new installments.

And lastly, a "remake of a four year old game"? It's a remake of Persona freaking 4, one of the best JRPGs of all time with new content! Thats enough for Persona fans to get excited
BitbyDeath  +   288d ago
@Logic, i disagree, Vita just needs games that sell/appeal. 3DS owners are fine with Mario and Kingdom Hearts games just like how Sony are fine with Monster Hunter and other JRPG's.

No handhelds are going for unique experiences, they go for what works and what the fans want.
Soldierone  +   288d ago
Wait....a console "port" to a HANDHELD is all of a sudden a bad thing when it comes to Vita? Wasn't that what we all, even Sony was touting via PS2 to PSP, wanted for a while? Years ago if you told me I'd be playing CONSOLE PORTS in my hand, I'd laugh and walk away dreaming.....

And whats wrong with a spin off? You just complained about a "port" and now a "spin-off" isn't good enough either....what the hell do you want then? A "spin-off" with its own story and gameplay, its basically an original game just running in the same world of an established franchise.....

There is no winning with Vita haters....just buy one and enjoy it, or don't.
morganfell  +   288d ago
Yes apparently Black Ops is a port...not.

Logic doesn't know a damn thing about the game. But that doesn't matter to him nor is information his purpose.

Even Treyarch isn't aware of what's going on meaning they are either liars or more likely it is being developed by a Sony studio. Treyarch would have to at least be aware in order to provide assets for a port. Verdict - not a port and Logic is trolling as usual. Stealth trolling - in this case acting hopeful up front and then sliding the bad news in on the back end - is the real goal. This type of posting is so tiresome, so transparent, that even I am through laughing about it.

Logic, like so many others desperately want Sony to fail. He says he hopes sales rise but watch what he says the first time his negative comments are refuted. Back to his usual self talking about Sony doom and gloom. That's the key to spotting such posters. They'll say "I hope" or "They could" but they won't actually back their target up in a hard debate. They never provide anything positive about their target. Hoping someone does well is the same as saying they aren't doing well now. That is the impression it gives and that suits their needs of providing the negative picture.

Objectivity isn't their goal. Does that sound like a gamer to you? These people are so easy to spot its ridiculous.
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LOGICWINS  +   288d ago
"Logic, like so many others desperately want Sony to fail"

Oh yes! I made a criticism about Vita...CLEARLY I want Sony to fail for my own mysterious personal gain. With that type of deductive reasoning, its a wonder why you only have one bubble.

facepalm/
insomnium2  +   288d ago
@logic

It's quite clear to anyone who was on this site in 2005-2009 why Morgan has only one bubble. This site was a x360 fanboy circlejerk heaven. Anything "bad" (truth) about x360 and your bubbles flew out the window.

This site was almost normal/neutral in 2009-2011 but now it's going pro x360 again it seems. People like you with 5 bubbles proves that.

Ontopic: COD as a 15-25 million seller across all platforms on Vita is JUST a spinoff? Really? COD on Vita might be the best thing for Sony regarding Vita sales right now.
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LOGICWINS  +   288d ago
"This site was almost normal/neutral in 2009-2011 but now it's going pro x360 again it seems. People like you with 5 bubbles proves that."

So now I'm pro-360? LMAO too funny. U know what, I'll play your game. Since I'm sooo pro-360, show me all my pro-360 comments in the past week...heck, the last month.

People with your black and white mentality are fascinating. I criticize Vita...so by your logic, I MUST be pro-360 lol.
insomnium2  +   288d ago
@logic

I'm way too lazy to start about passive agressiveness with you. You are not fooling anyone though.
GameOn  +   287d ago
"It's quite clear to anyone who was on this site in 2005-2009 why Morgan has only one bubble."

Says the guy who joined in 2010.

I was actually here back then and it wasn't as one sided a people seem to let off.
DigitalRaptor  +   287d ago
It really shows how little you know for a person who claims to follow logic. In fact, logic should suggest that you know nothing about these "spinoffs" to backup your claim, but alas...

A port. Persona 4, right? Let's pretend that the 3DS had none of those. Yeah, thought so.

LittleBigPlanet Vita is much, much more than a "remake of a four year old game" and if you actually followed news about it, seen the dev diaries, read previews you would be aware that it is its own game, and may be the ultimate defining portable game that the Vita has been waiting for. http://www.thesixthaxis.com... But alas... you might as well say the same for LittleBigPlanet 2. That was a remake of a 3 year old game, or maybe it was a sequel. Can't be too sure.

AC3 Liberation has its own lead character and storyline that ties into Connor's story. If anything, that's quite an exciting prospect. Looks like a f***ing good spin off.

CoD Declassified - Firstly, since when did you know anything about this game? Second, since when were people picking up CoD for the single player. This could do great things to pick up Vita's success, even if the franchise had turned to trash.

And aside from these games, it wouldn't be smart to ignore the games like Dokuro, Guacamelee, BioShock (original title), Soul Sacrifice, Super Monkey Ball, New Little King's Story, Warrior's Lair, Dragon's Crown, Sound Shapes, Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time, and "that smash bros clone". I know a few of them are also coming to PS3, but doesn't invalidate for those who are into portable gaming. So as you can see, a good mix of ports, existing franchise entries, and original titles. Not to mention, that is clearly only the start, with gamescom and TGS coming up for the announcement of more.

Try harder to live up to your name mate.
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BrutallyBlunt  +   287d ago
Why are the forums so embarassing? A topic about how Vita sales are ok, not bad and not great, turns into yet another clash. Instead of focusing on how Vita can do better we hear the constant excuses versus how Vita is doomed.

Is it impossible for members to give both pros and cons instead of always being on one side of the fence?

Example, pros:
1.Best handheld device ever made for gaming
2.Some great titles
3.Awesome launch of titles

cons:
1.Still rather expensive plus the need for proprietary memory cards that increase the price
2.Not a good steady flow of titles
3.Could use more marketing

So ask yourself, what kind of member here on N4G are you? One that will mainly focus on the pros, one that always focuses on the negatives or one who can see things from both perspectives?
Outside_ofthe_Box  +   287d ago
How is a spin-off a BAD thing!!!???

That is exactly what the Vita needs right now; Spin-offs from POPULAR franchises.

So if R* were to make a GTA spin-off for the Vita you wouldn't want it!? Come on now!

If the Vita had a Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts spin-off, I'd be all over the system!

Ports however aren't a reason to buy the system. Ports are only good after you have bought the system as that's when the PS3-PSV connectivity is of significance to you.

Spin-offs are the "UNIQUE VITA EXCLUSIVE gaming experiences" the Vita needs right now. LBP Vita, ACIII:Liberation, and BO:Declassified are spin-offs (not ports) of WELL KNOWN franchises that will attract fans of their respective franchises to buy a Vita. New unique Vita exclusive IPs should come after the Vita has a solid amount of owners. So yeah, the Vita does have a strong holiday line-up this year.
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Phil32  +   288d ago
"Next its quite funny how you say "spin-off" as if it's a bad thing, when we're talking about a *handheld* here."

@Abash This part of your statement stood out to me. Everything else was fine. Nintendo puts full fledged numbered sequels on their handhelds including Mario Kart 7 and New Super Mario Bros. 2. Sony and third-parties are still treating the portable space like the redheaded stepchild by providing spinoffs for the most part. That is the difference between Nintendo's 3DS and Sony's Vita right now in terms of game support.
yesmynameissumo  +   288d ago
And Street Fighter 4. And Rayman Origins. And Zelda. And Lego Batman 2. And Star Fox 64. And Sonic Generations. And on and on. It's not like the 3DS isn't/hasn't done they same thing. Only recently did a influx of 3rd party, non console ports appear. And that was due to the price drop and sales boost.
Machioto  +   288d ago
@xXtreme Sony is here for the long run for vita,so while it's slow yo start it could pick up in the future.
fei-hung  +   287d ago
We do not know what Sony's plans are and we do not know what they have up their sleeves.

The whole company is being restructured and there are many things going on we probably wont hear off or see until a few years down the line probably.

The problem is, many gaming sites do not have the intelligence to look at the dots which have been placed before the lines get connected:

1) PS VITA - handheld with many capabilities and much potential due to the tech, specs and dual analogue sticks.

2) Gaikai - streaming service which works on anything from PC's to web browsers

3) COD - the highest selling FPS series this gen that annoying brats like my nephew and other gamers love

4) Apps - growing number of apps allow the device to do more than just game

5) PS Mobile - for ios and android style games (being very important as mobile gaming giants are starting to hit hurdles as their share prices and profits drop).

Take all the above into consideration along with the the PS4 being made to possible work better with the VITA and what you have is a product which will probably start making a noise this xmas season and hit its stride when Gaikai, more apps and PS Mobile kicks off.

The VITA was not designed with just the year 2011/12 in mind, it was developed for years to come.
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Soldierone  +   288d ago
I don't understand all the Vita hate. Then I realize there really isn't a lot of games coming out as of late, and a lot of kids have internet access and the ability to create blogs.....
Unexpecta  +   288d ago
Lol what? There IS a lot of games coming out for the PSVita by the end of this year.

"and a lot of kids have internet access and the ability to create blogs." I have no clue of what you're talking about.
Soldierone  +   288d ago
Again, I don't understand all the Vita hate. AKA People are stupid for complaining about the vita and calling it doomed because there are no games CURRENTLY releasing.....

I know there are games COMING thats why I don't understand the haters. "Kids with blogs" are just people getting shots in while they can.
dkp23  +   288d ago
Should of stopped with that pspgo which didnt do so well either, should of known not to do a Vita.

Phones/tablets are the new choice for handheld devices.
MySwordIsHeavenly  +   288d ago
I don't think it's about "what's popular". They may be a company, but they seem more concerned with bringing us a quality product with quality games...
Soldierone  +   288d ago
Getting a phone/tablet instead of a Vita is like telling people to go buy a Netbook instead of a laptop because "it does the same thing" and forget to tell them "but not nearly at the same level AT ALL"
portal_2  +   287d ago
Gaming on a smartphone is simply horrible. Sony have said they are all about gamers, hence not hundreds of thousands of shovelware, causual touchscreen messes.
taquito  +   288d ago
sony needs to announce the ps4 soon, very soon!

Show off some uncharted and killzone ps4 gameplay in 1080p with 8x aa running @60 frames

that will get the hype train roaring!

they cannot afford to give nintendo the reign of the only next gen system on the field
Protagonist  +   287d ago
What does that have to do with PSVITA sales?
Phil32  +   288d ago
@yesmynameissumo

I don't see how any of those are spinoffs which is what I mentioned specifically. I never even uttered the word "port." Please read my comment again. Thanks.
Godchild1020  +   288d ago
I can't wait for the Holiday to kick off. Ragnarock Odyssey, LBPV, Spy Hunter, Silent Hill and street Fighter X Tekken.

That just half of it. PSASBR, Smart As, Sly cooper, NFSMW, ASL. As a person that's always on the go, the fall/Holiday line up for the Vita looks great.

A hand full of these titles will help the Vita sell and since they plan on making bundles with these games and I don't see why not.
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Unexpecta  +   288d ago
Yeah some heavy weight contenders are dropping on the PSVita. It confuses me when people say the PSVita is not doing "well" or doesn't have "any" games. Big games like Ragnarok Odyssey, AC Liberation and Little Big Planet alone will create a surge in popularity for the PSV and other games will follow.
DiRtY  +   288d ago
It is selling less than the PS3 in its worst days with a 600 USD pricetag. How can this be acceptable? I am not making this up. PS Vita sold 48k in the last five weeks in the US according to NPD, that is less than the PS3 managed to get in its 6 years on the market.
YoungPlex  +   288d ago
I know he was cringing when he said that... 2million Vita's is unacceptable, and the faster Sony admits this the faster they could recover from such devastating sales! We all know that Sony reports combined sales of both the PSP and Vita, as well as both PS3 and PS2, when reporting their losses to investors. I just recently found out that they gave out something like 50-100k Vita's (maybe more), to a bunch of employees at gamestop and are counting each of those units as sales.

Nintendo was in a similar situation around the same time it was released and tried to dance around saying it was a sufficient amount of units, but realized that they could only fool themselves for so long before investors started pulling out! They came up with a strategy and executed it with perfection; as of June 2012, they're profiting off of every 3DS/3DS XL they sell.

I realize that Sony is already taking a loss on Vita but really hope they stop acting like everything is fine, when indeed it's not! But hey, if 2 million Vita's are good enough for Sony and they say it's acceptable, then good for them! I don't agree one bit...
IRetrouk  +   288d ago
Sony actually make a profit from each vita sold, sales will pick up once the more mainstream titles hit. By the way everyone should play gravity rush/daze, one of the most original games I have played in a very long time, it also helps that it's a gorgeous looking game.
YoungPlex  +   288d ago
I have played the demo and toyed around with the retail version of Gravity Rush. I must say that it almost made me run and re-buy a Vita but I'm sticking to my guns until it gets a much more robust library of games; I mean come on, its the same price as a console with not nearly enough software. I'm all for Vita succeeding but will only support it when Sony starts taking their handheld market a bit more seriously... What I mean by that, well you get the picture look at E3 all about wonder book not enough Vita.

Oh and from what I've read, Sony is NOT making a profit and taking a loss off of each Vita. If I'm wrong then Sony is truly playing with fire and needs a price drop asap!
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IRetrouk  +   287d ago
Over 50 games in less than 6 months, that's not robust enough? And e3 was more about ps3 as a whole than vita or wonderbook, although they had a big showing for vita on the floor, as for the profit thing all you have to do is google it, plenty of interviews stating that the vita is profitable from day 1
tehpees3  +   288d ago
Well if you are really expecting those kinds of sales figures by the end of March, I don't think this is acceptable at all.

@ YoungPlex

What are you talking about? Nintendo admitted from the very start 3DS was doing poorly. And it was still outselling Vita's figures on a lifetime sales basis.

http://www.edge-online.com/...
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YoungPlex  +   288d ago
Look man, Nintendo did not admit anything was wrong the first four or five months and were singing the same song at a point, stating that the 3DS was getting confused with the original DS and that sales would pick up once people knew the difference. Well that of course wasn't the case, a bunch of triple A titles and a price-drop made that happen, not people figuring out it wasn't just a DS with 3D!

I have a 3DS and Wii along with every other console except Vita, because I want there to be a more robust library, so I have nothing to gain by stating the facts! I prefer my 3DS over a Vita at this point and don't need you to say that I don't know what I'm talking about, when in fact it's you who doesn't!
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Wintersun616  +   288d ago
With Ragnarok Odyssey, LBPV, AC:L, CoD:Declassified and many other games on the horizon in the near future, I believe the Vita sales will pick up.
kingofe3  +   288d ago
And how many of those are system sellers? Assassin's Creed and Call of Duty? I worried that Assassin's Creed will have trouble selling since it's releasing the same day as the original game. Also, we haven't seen anything about Call of Duty yet (Gamescom), which is more worrying.
Wintersun616  +   288d ago
It's not only about individual games that sell a lot of systems, it's even more about broadening your library of games to the point when there are several games that appeal to a lot of different kinds of gamers.

For me personally, LBPV & AC:L are system sellers, also I want to pick up PSASBR on the Vita because it seems like a game I would prefer to pick up and play in short bursts rather than play for longer periods.
akiraburn  +   287d ago
Well said sir. I'm personally just waiting for Vita to get a small price drop, then I'll snag one and a bunch of titles. Off topic, but Wintersun is amazing. I can't wait for "Time I" to come out. Its easily my most anticipated album in years. I'll definitely be trying to see them when they make it to North America for their upcoming tour.
Shok  +   288d ago
The PSP has been outselling it for a bunch of weeks.

That definitely not acceptable.
Blankman85  +   288d ago
Acceptable and yet they lowered their projected sales by 4 million. . .-__- who are you trying to kid SONY?
Protagonist  +   287d ago
Even though we got great games coming for the PSVITA, It saddens me to see how SONY is supporting/marketing the PSVITA. They kept assuring us they would not make the same mistakes as they did with the PSP.

When the PSP got released, they shifted their focus on the PS3 and neglected the PSP. This year rather than focusing 100% on the PSVITA on E3, they showed 15m of wonderbook!

Whoever makes the decisions for Playstation clearly has no Idea on how to market the PSVITA.
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TheDivine  +   287d ago
It will sell once it gets either

1) Hacked (everyone i know got a psp because it had cfw. i want ps2 games on it and most the good psp games either dont work on vita or arent on the store)

2) Big games like a new MGS, FF, and Monster Hunter (psp sold because of crisis core, peace walker, and monster hunter).

3) A bunch of games over a year along with a price of 199 or less (preferably 179 or so with included memory).

One or more of those happen it will be fine. If it sells at 250 plus no memory or included games with nothing but sony games which have better ps3 versions and some 3rp party ports it will never get the 3rd party support it needs to survive.

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