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Submitted by Aclay 314d ago | article

Game dev students give Wii U mixed marks at early demo

Arstechnica, Charlie Hall- "About 150 Club Nintendo members had received a golden ticket for each night of this four-day junket, but I was more interested in talking to the invited students from DePaul University’s Game Dev program. These were undergraduates and graduate students who had made the decision to come to a four-year, liberal arts school to study up on how to make modern games.

This wasn’t just a regular demo session for them. It was Nintendo’s chance to sell a set of up-and-coming developers on its vision for the hardware. The students' reaction was a mix of giddy optimism about the system's potential and cynical skepticism about certain aspects of Wii U development." (Wii U)

NastyLeftHook0  +   314d ago
mixed or not im sure the wii u will be fantastic, im awaiting a new zelda metroid mario and ofcourse starfox.
DEATHxTHExKIDx  +   314d ago
from what E3 looked like zelda, metroid, and star fox wont be for awhile. But mario will be there at launch.
fatstarr  +   314d ago
everyone always hates on Nintendo.
same thing they said about the 3ds
and now look at it

the critically acclaimed vita flopping
and the flop to be 3ds is successful.

just trust in Nintendo. they got this
VideoGameJimmy  +   313d ago
I think the 3DS and the Vita were both received on the same level. There are people who said the 3DS would flop and there are people who said the Vita would flop. N one hates Nintendo. Anybody who has a passion for gaming knows many of the things we have in gaming now wouldn't be here if it weren't for Nintendo.
Oh_Yeah  +   313d ago
starfox wont happen, unless nintendo paid rare for rights.
beerkeg  +   313d ago
Nintendo own the rights.
Oh_Yeah  +   313d ago
@beerkeg...it wont happen lol. there would have been a starfox for wii. rare owns some rights.
beerkeg  +   313d ago
Rare made Star Fox Adventures for Nintendo, but Nintendo own the ip. Rare just made one Starfox game for them.

I don't know why you think Rare has any control of the ip, because they don't.
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Shok  +   314d ago | Well said
“Gaming as we know it is taking a hard turn away from console games and toward mobile, Web, and other...."

Don't know why this sentiment exists. The consoles this gen have sold 229.7 million units this gen, yet console gaming is somehow dying or is losing it's touch due to phones, PHONES of all things.

Angry Birds is a nice little distraction but it can never kill off Mario, Metal Gear, Halo, etc.
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JBSleek  +   314d ago
Because it is a true sentiment because mobile gaming is a threat.

http://www.razorianfly.com/...

By no means am I saying that mobile will replace traditional as they both can survive together but the notion that mobile gaming isn't relevant or having an impact is disingenuous to your own wanting of mobile gaming not to be mentioned alongside with "core" gaming.
whatsazmario   314d ago | Spam
PopRocks359  +   314d ago
The markets are completely different. What hardware manufacturers, publishers and developers need to do is find a way to reduce the cost of development and it can remain profitable.

The whole reason the phone market is so successful is because damn near everyone has a cell phone, many of which are smart. That means they play games. Not everyone on the other hand, owns every video game console.

It's pretty much like trying to go back about sixty years and tell people of that time period that TV wasn't going to kill books. They would have thought you were crazy. Yet books continue to be made today.
AO1JMM  +   314d ago
Well said,

You my friend earn a bubble
CouldHaveYelledUiiW  +   314d ago
I agree Shok.

It's amazing how shortsighted the Experts get.
Apple has a great business model- and we all know that the cost of AAA games is getting high but to then turn around and say that smartphone gaming is the ONLY way to go is poorly calculated.

It's like they don't see the full picture. I can see why a caring teacher would push them toward Indie/Tablet/Smartphone gaming however-

For many it would be more rewarding creatively and the profits (for their work) would be more direct. They could also gain recognition more easily if their Indie title becomes a hit.

BUT this is the same argument that exist in the Film industry. Indie Films vs. Big Budget Films - And from what I see both have a place in the market. (Now if only they can get Indie Television up and running).
VanillaBear  +   314d ago
Owch...

:|
whatsazmario   314d ago | Spam
chrisarsenalsavart  +   314d ago
nintendo wiiu the most open platform?lol
nintendo is the only manufacturer who still impose region locked hardware and you think these control freaks are gonna open their Platform anytime soon?
ah!ah!ah!
mightyducksauce   314d ago | Spam
PopRocks359  +   314d ago
@charisarsenalsavart

Playstation Vita accounts were region locked and you could only have one account per Vita device. Ergo, it's region locked.
tiffac008  +   314d ago
That is incorrect, you can have multiple accounts per Vita. You just need a different memory card for each account.

Here is the guide: http://www.ign.com/wikis/ps...

Nothing against anyone but I think the proper information should be shared.
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Qrphe  +   314d ago
My copy of Gundam Seed Battle Destiny and my download of Assault Gunners strongly disagree with your statement.
PopRocks359  +   314d ago
@tiffac008

Oh right. I forgot about that. So in other words, the only way for you to have access to every region, you have to spend money and buy more than one of those overpriced memory cards. Duly noted.
tarbis  +   312d ago
@PopRocks359
Well duh, at least you can access other regions unlike Wii or Xbox you need to buy a region specific console just to play unless you hack or crack the console which prevents you from accessing online contents.
tiffac008  +   312d ago
Those memory cards will drop in price down the line. Its the nature of not only the console business but the tech business as a whole. So in the end, it won't be an issue.

But the main thing is, there is no region lock on the Vita. I just wanted to make that clear. So the people not in the know won't get the wrong information.
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PopRocks359  +   312d ago
@tarbis

Yeah, for more money to Sony first. It's crap.

@tiffac008

"Those memory cards will drop in price down the line. Its the nature of not only the console business but the tech business as a whole. So in the end, it won't be an issue."

The bottom line is they're still too expensive NOW. Meaning until that price drop happens (assuming it ever does) then I'm not really going to care, am I?

"But the main thing is, there is no region lock on the Vita. I just wanted to make that clear. So the people not in the know won't get the wrong information."

If you can't access overseas content on the one account you have, the platform may as well be region locked. Having to buy another tiny, overpriced memory card and making a new account just to buy games from different regions is a ripoff. Personally I wouldn't want it at all if that's what I have to go through as a consumer.

Dancing around that fact and try to spin the Vita as region lock free doesn't earn you any points with skeptics like myself.
tiffac008  +   312d ago
Your trying to put a region lock on the Vita when there is none. You can play other regional games on your Vita even if your PSN account is of a different region.

Your trying to put region restriction for online content and complete region lock in the same sentence. There is a difference.

You know as much as I do. Region lock prevents you in playing anything from other regions. That includes the physical media, unless you jailbreak the device.

The restriction only applies to online content with can be circumvented with another memory card. Price or not of the card, the Vita clearly does not have a region lock. Online region restriction per memory card, yes.

And now your saying you do not care if the price of the memory card goes down in the future? Then why even bother bringing that up, when your not going to accept facts?

I ain't here trying to put a rain on your parade. I'm just stating the facts and ain't spinning the truth here.

As core gamers, we are responsible in spreading the correct information without any bias. So the people that is not in the know can understand. That is all what I am doing.
Puddlejumper75  +   314d ago
At poprocks,
How dare you bring up another platform when this is about the Wii U. People cant troll when u do that.

Like Wii U gwtting ports. Its,only an issue for Wii u. When u bring facts like ps3 got them into it it kills the fun
Oh_Yeah  +   313d ago
microsoft uses region locks with the 360 too.
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AO1JMM  +   314d ago
I'll take a real gamers opinion over some students opinion
koh  +   314d ago
...Couldn't students ALSO be real gamers?
Salamander  +   314d ago
no such thing as a student real gamer, they wouldnt have time for homework.
koh  +   313d ago
You have a different definition of "real gamer" than me then. Mine is someone who REALLY plays GAMES. No specific amount of time/type of game needed.
Puddlejumper75  +   314d ago
So people were giddy about its potential but somw has skeptisism about SOME aspects of development. Not sure what the issue is here. Everyone would love an wasy job after all.
wiiulee  +   314d ago
when i read the students so called concerns....i really couldnt find one except speculation...as nintendo has been reaching to third parties and independent developers..has these students even contacted nintendo...sounded to me like angry pc and ps3 supporters....but in the end nintendo has got things right with the wiiu...i feel

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