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Submitted by gulevski 314d ago | opinion piece

Why the Wii U Will Crash and Burn

"With the Wii U launching this holiday season, and only a few months leading up to it for news to be revealed, there are some huge flaws already visible in Nintendo’s marketing strategy. We still don’t know the price, there is very little consumer attention outside of gaming circles, and the console does not live up to ‘next-gen’ expectations. The Wii U only has two things to rely on—its loyal fanbase, and the hope that its dual-screen gimmick will be as successful for consoles as it was for the Nintendo DS. " (Nintendo, Wii U)

Shok  +   314d ago | Intelligent
"Even taking all of this into account, the console itself has very bad specs compared to current consoles."

Oh Lord, was this article written by a N4G member? Lol.

And it's crazy how some people actually have personal vendettas against pieces of plastic (consoles). This goes for all fanboys.
iamnsuperman  +   314d ago
I am not sure what specs she is talking about considering they haven't exactly released them as far as I know

It wont crash and burn but I do wonder about Nintendo's marketing strategy. No price or specs and its august all ready.

I personally see the success of the Wii U being in the hands of Sony and Microsoft. If both (or either one) of them release similar controllers the Wii could potentially be a massive success. The reasoning behind this is then third parties are then forced to think more creatively about making touch based controls into games as it can be developed from the beginning and not just added for one consoles. I see third parties just making use of the touch screen for menus especially if Sony and Microsoft release next console without this feature.

Price and marketing is a big point in its success as well as what Sony and Microsoft will do (considering Sony is looking like it thinks the next generation will be cloud based)
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sikbeta  +   314d ago
@Shok

A N4G member... like... you? :O

O-T

Using Pachter rule here, whenever someone says Wii-U will fail, stay cool, the exact opposite will happen, it's not like they weren't wrong before lol
darthv72  +   314d ago
"CRASH AND BURN"
do they mean the old 3do racing game from years ago? that was a good game and i wouldnt mind seeing a next gen (or current) update to it.

Come to think of it, total eclipse wasnt half bad either.
quantae06  +   314d ago
Damn, it is August already lol. Time is flying.
Morrigan-Aensland  +   314d ago
People didn't know the specs of the Wii and was touting how its 4 times as powerful as a Xbox 1 when Nintendo already demoed games which looks similar to ps2 games. I remember Nintendo reps were saying its powerful.

I also remember when the 3ds was going to be released and devs ans people were saying its very powerful, even as powerful as a Xbox 360 . People were even talking about how it supports unreal 3 engine.

Judging by Nintendos past record and the games shown for the Wii u , a person can conclude that its basically as powerful as a Xbox 360. Nintendo fans get so offended to hear something that is most likely true and based off of logic. I'm surprised that I haven't seen the most common line by NES fans, " power doesn't matter", and " all the consoles that wins the generation are always the weakest". I love consoles as long as they are proper with tech for its time. I would love if the Wii u was powerful but we all know its not but people's views are swatted down because they speak about it.
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kingofe3  +   314d ago
I can never take any of your post seriously, this is just the beginning of the Wii U. Remember what PS3 and Xbox 360 games first looked like when they were first revealed? Looked like high-end PS2 games. Look at what we have now with games like The Last of Us. If you are basing a console's power by how it looks now, then you are destined to be wrong by how they look in the future.
Digimortal  +   314d ago
This is what people are forgetting. You never see what a system can truly do when it first launches. Common Logic.
Salamander  +   314d ago
Umm.. wouldnt you love consoles for their games? why you are always missing the fundamentals of gaming, is beyond me.

I would say we heard alot of things about upcoming consoles which werent true. I have no disillusions that the WiiU is gonna be a beast. But I seriously doubt its as weak as the XBox 360.
StraightedgeSES  +   314d ago
@Morrigan-Aensland You must really have some unrealistic expectations for the ps4.
yabhero  +   314d ago
"Judging by Nintendos past record and the games shown for the Wii U , a person can conclude that its basically as powerful as a Xbox 360"
That is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.
+1 for excellent trolling
Rockoman16  +   314d ago
OMG you always know everything!!!!! :O!!!
rpd123  +   314d ago
They don't use that line because they're hypocrites and use the graphics as an argument for why the Wii U is better.

I'm impartial and love all three, but Christ there are a lot of fanboys here.
GribbleGrunger  +   314d ago
You see, this is what I mean. This is just hatred. Let's see how many 'The 720 will crash and burn' articles we get shall we. I'm a Sony fan so the Wiiu doesn't interest me, but for crying out loud, I don't hate the console. That headline can only pander to brain cell deficient young teens
TheMasterShake  +   314d ago
yet you defend it with every whim like a blind fanboy, oh the irony.
Salamander  +   314d ago
I defend it, am i fanboy? i havent owned a nintendo console in years, am i fanboy? i own a PS3, am i a fanboy?

Nowdont quote me on this but of the times ive read Shoks comments, he seems to me like he has genuine interest in this console. And his comments dont seem fanboyish and i havent read that he bashes other consoles.

Pull your head in turtle head.
JaggedCarpet  +   314d ago
Shok, a fanboy? He's anything but. You don't see him running around Sony or Microsoft articles spouting hatred and nonsense. He also doesn't have unrealistic expectations about the Wii U. He defends it because there's so much misinformation and trolling here that he's just trying to correct it.

Yes, he has a personal preference, but that doesn't make.him a fanboy.
Shok  +   314d ago
I WAS going to actually respond to you but....

Salamander and Jagged put it nicely, so nothing on my part needs to be said.

Good day to you sir.
Shnazzyone  +   314d ago
I'm assuming that one disagree is from the n4g member that wrote the article. I mean it's not like gamers are currently starving for next gen hardware or anything. So by being the first console to market it will likely have good success at launch and will probably get better as the 3rd party games are consistently better on wii U until the other companies drop their hardware.
lizard81288  +   314d ago
Specs
Despite people always talking about bad specs, it seems the console with the worse specs always "wins", which is odd, aside from PSX vs N64

For example, the PS2 won that gen, despite having poor specs and the weakest of the 3, IIRC
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hellztourguide420  +   314d ago
Ya i know. Its the 3ds all over again. Yet nobody is writing gloom and doom for the Vita...go figure.
Wizziokid  +   314d ago
"the console itself has very bad specs compared to current consoles"

Awwww damn this guy knows the final specs, can you please share?? It will put all this speculation to rest.

These articles make me want the Wii U to succeed at shut everyone who writes them up, don't judge the success of a console before it's released, do we need another history lesson with the Wii? weakest console this gen however outsold the 'better' consoles. I'm not even a Wii gamer but this sort of thing is what's killing the game industry, closed minded fanboys
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Jadedz  +   314d ago
Everyone's entitled to their own opinions
No matter how outlandish they may seem.
GribbleGrunger   314d ago | Personal attack | show | Replies(1)
ReDDeaDDan  +   314d ago
Great article. I must agree with the author, that the lack of alleged spec and gimmicky control scheme really could signal dooms day for the Wii U.
sandman224  +   314d ago
I don't see wii u crashing or burning. Nice try with this article. If anything should worry us about the wii u, it's going to be there online service. As long as its a smooth experiance they wont have a problem.
showtimefolks  +   314d ago
Many of the developers have said wii u is on par or maybe a little better than current console and IMO that's huge improvements when considering we talking abut Nintendo lol. I thought they would stay in SD age forever.

For wii u to be true success 3rd Artie's have to be in board, consider this the last Nn console to have great 3rd party support was snes. Wii failed at that while succeeding at selling fitness,family games plus N 1st party exclusives. And don't tell me how many publishers are on board thing is we will not know till the system is it for a year or 2. Nintendo needs to support the 3rd parties and make them feel comfortable

Either case I don't think wii u will sell as well as original wii did but there is no way it will be a failure. But when ps4 and xbox720 releases it's over for wii u because both of them will kick some major as. MS leaked documents spoke for 6 GB ram so Nintendo has a head start but what if the day wii u launches both MS and any cut the price $50-100 bucks than what?

And for the 1st year all it will get are ports of games already out and you have to understand it will take some time for devs to truly take advantage of the specs just like every system that launches first time and are games that are good but their sequels or 2nd tries are where the system actually shines
kingofe3  +   314d ago
Please, Nintendo has done this before with the Wii, DS, and 3DS. This is not the first time they have not revealed specs for a console months before it's release. Some people just need to be patient.
Digimortal  +   314d ago
I stopped reading stupid stuff like this when i found out that Journalists have been getting paid to give good scores for games that are not even remotely close to being good. Also, this is just another article to generate hits and nothing more. What this person is complaining about in this article is pretty much the same thing i read almost everyday from other non creditable sites. Yet to give my two cents on the matter. Do i think the Wii U will crash and Burn. Oh hell no, there marketing strategy is awesome, by doing a Wii U experience tour around NA is the best way to Market the Wii U. Gives people a chance to finally see for themselves and experience what the System is all about without having to watch videos on youtube, Read articles about it, ect. Allowing more free base gamers and existing Wii Owners to understand that it is a next gen system. Yet Nintendo has made this clear as a bell ever since last E3. People just don't know how to pay attention, As for the casual aspect on that matter. I'm not worried about the casual figuring out if the Wii U is a Next Gen console or not. Casual gamers are a lot more smarter then you think, i would even go as far as to say that most of them are smarter then most Core gamers out there.
maniac76  +   314d ago
Lol @ title. Nin will suceed along side next gen ffs.
Summons75  +   314d ago
Should change the title to "Why people with a negative outlook on life will crash and burn". Seriously, the WiiU looks promising though the new controller idea maybe strange to us. 3rd party devs have said nothing but praise for it, the launch games looks very strong. Dose it have a chance of being a failure? Sure, but seeing as kids and families love nintendo and judging on how well the Wii sold, makes things look good for this. wait till it comes out to see what the public has to say about the WiiU before condemning it.
mcstorm  +   314d ago
Im looking forward to the WiiU. I don't think Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo have given us a bad console in any of the gens they have been in. They all have + and - sides but in terms of games all 3 have given us games to remember this includes home and handheld consoles.
SlapHappyJesus  +   314d ago
And then the console releases and does extremely well again. Not that I am expecting the Wii U to be another Wii in terms of sales, but I am not worried about it moving units.

Really though, Nintendo has a large and dedicated fanbase. People will always come for their exclusives, considering the console itself is worth its cost.

They are now going to be offering a full-fledged online component that will probably be free.

They seem to be getting along with most large publishing companies, meaning that the system should be well supported in terms of third party support.

Let's say, and nothing has really been confirmed one way or the other. But let's say that the system is indeed not as powerful as the new xbox or playstation. Well, from what we've seen, it will be pushing the best that this generation has to offer, while running native 1080p and with many games running at sixty frames. And this is only launch content. Like all console tech, there is much room for improvement once people learn more about the tech. For a large portion of the console crowd, people who really shouldn't be speaking of graphics in the first place, this is more than enough. The fact that their games will display well on their large HD televisions is all they want.
a_adji  +   314d ago
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The title alone is dumb and the fact that Nintendo are selling like crazy makes it even dumber. it's like someone being bullied and when everyone stops there is one idiot that carries on and then looks stupid. This person is stupid. get a real job because journalism and games is not for you. if we allow idiots like this to carry on what will become of the gaming industry? we need to protect it with diversity and wish all the companies well and support them and stop this shhhhhhit
ThePsychoGamer  +   314d ago
While I don't agree with the reason stated in the article, I know A WiiU won't be in my living room for a long time do to issues like region locking. That the only issue I see with the WiiU, but it's a deal breaker.

Break the locks
Baka-akaB  +   314d ago
True enough , hell still why i dont have a 3ds , since i'm gonna be forced to import one , it's going to take far longer .
Death_Grin48  +   314d ago
You're like a broken record with your region lock argument. Get over it. It's not that big of a deal.

Nobody is taking you seriously, especially with your "Break the locks" gimmick.
beerkeg  +   314d ago
You have an apt name ThePsychoGamer.

The definition of insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

That's how I feel about your posts, the same crap over and over again, like you think it's going to change anything.

No one from Nintendo is reading your comments, you won't make a difference.

So how about posting about something other than Nintendos region locking, because what you're doing just makes people think you're a bit of a weirdo.
ThePsychoGamer  +   314d ago
I'm getting the result I want with these posts, the first step to solving a problem is knowing there's a problem. Through my post people of this site have become more aware of the region locking and why it is a big flaw. quite a few have even joined me in our great fight for the rights of gamers. They may not be spreading the word like I am, but non the less they are helping fight this noble battle to free gamers from the shackles of region locking.

Sure there have been blind fanboys that instead of fighting for a better system have tried to fool themselves and others into thinking that region locking is not a big issue, but they will not stop me from fighting for there rights.

Break the locks.
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a_adji  +   314d ago
errrrrrrr correct me if I am wrong but the 360 is region locked and ps3 is the only one open, also it was the first and only home console since cd to be region free so what the rasssssss fcuk are you on about.
DylnCox  +   314d ago
Going on past Nintendo consoles, I can tell your right now they're not making leaping bounds to top Microsoft/Sony with the Wii-U. It's going to be better than the Wii, but doubtfully better than 360/PS3...

Nintendo has been making consoles for 35 years (1977)... longer than Sony and Microsoft, combined..
They are just clueless as to what they're doing wrong.
yabhero  +   314d ago
It's not expensive or complicated to create a console 3-4x the power of 360/PS3. It'd cost about 250 to make. Seriously, if you could build a PC 5x PS3 and 360 for under 400 dollars why can't Nintendo?
DylnCox  +   312d ago
I never said they "can't" - but from past consoles they released, they haven't.
yabhero  +   312d ago
They'e made it kind of obvious there are going a different way with this one...
also, they'll go with what's easiest... asking AMD to bring back a line of old discountinued crapppy CPUs and GPUs would be harder than just getting a cheap new stronger one
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wiiulee  +   314d ago
try harder....yes nintendo has been making system for 35 years and without nintendo sony and microsoft systems wouldnt exist...so they are doing what they do right....wii won this generation of console war, ds killed the psp...3ds is leading the vita....wiiu is coming out with innovation and the best lineup or core and mainstream game from any nintendo system for a long time....success is awaiting the wiiu...but haters will hate....
Jihaad_cpt  +   311d ago
Um Sony is an older company than Nintendo. Sony would have existed with or without Nintendo. Are you just mentally slow?
wiiulee  +   314d ago
lol...and the wiiu will be better then the wii but not better then the xbox360 and ps3...according to all sources ac3 and fifa13 looks better on the wiiu then both of the competitors..think about what that means....those are 7th generation games on the xbox360 and ps3 so developers know how to work those systems by now to get the last drop out of them...yet a game thats not even a first generation game for the wiiu looks better and developers havent even figure out the system yet as EA pointed out.
Shnazzyone  +   314d ago
Isn't it weird...
How before 3ds came out there were tons of articles calling it a failure before and after launch then it did really well. Meanwhile there were next to no articles about vita being an imminent failure and there a lack of one even though it's done much worse then 3ds did at launch. So strange.
Ck1x  +   314d ago
These WiiU hate articles are just making the system even more popular by all the word of mouth going on. People still honestly believe that WiiU is just on par with PS3, when there are AC3 screens that clearly prove otherwise. Oh well, I know I'll have my system this holiday gunning down Zombies in ZombiU :)
Digimortal  +   314d ago
Plus didn't Ubisoft come out and confirm that AC3 will be running in 1080p native and 60FPS? Interesting, seeing how 360/PS3 is 720/30FPS. Yup The Wii U is less powerful the PS360. Gimme a break people. Wake the hell up. This is not what gaming is about. Does is honestly matter if a game runs in full 1080p native? or has better graphics over the other console? or having the game run in 60 or 30 FPS? For god sakes people come on now. Gaming is about having fun. You don't need that tech heavy crap. Why do you think Indie developers are doing so damn well and creating games that aren't even that good in graphics department? Minecraft is a perfect example that graphics don't mean jack S*** in this industry anymore. If you want the best out of your games, you would do in a proper manner. Get a damn PC and stfu about it already. Man i sometimes wish i was back in the Bit war days. Less Idiots back then.
cchum  +   314d ago
What the hell with all the negative articles lately...this, vita, Uncharted 3. I have no interest in the wiiU, but this is getting out of hand....again...for the 17th time
DivineAssault  +   314d ago
If wii u has the right price & support, it will not die.. $300 compared to nx gen wont be so bad but considering u need to buy an external HDD, its more like $350+... Who knows what will happen but if good games keep coming to it & its the cheapest it might be fine.. Look @ PS2.. Weaker than both gamecube & xbox yet dominated every household..
a_adji  +   314d ago
What like the PS3? no matter what we say or others these companies will make money. end off. we are looking at whos is best and they are just getting paid. stop being so sad.
PopRocks359  +   314d ago
Sony didn't make any money off the PS3 until much, much later when the tech became cheaper and more efficient. Back then, they were losing close to $400 on each one made because they were initially so expensive.

Their money was made from software sales, period.
DivineAssault  +   314d ago
like PS3? what did anything i say up there have to do with PS3? NOTHING like PS3.. Its unfortunately in last place right now & its not the cheapest..
GhostHero333  +   314d ago
The reason 90% of the people who are on these articles are here to complain not to leave positive notes.
jboy  +   314d ago
Wii u will ROCK

"Eat it Fanboys"
Bonerrr   314d ago | Immature | show
YoungPlex  +   314d ago
This is journalism at its worst! I don't know what specs he's talking about and even if he knew the specs for the Wii U, next-gen specs are yet to be reviled; so how can he make an accurate assumption?!?! Another thing to factor, in this totally subjective article, is price for all three. Even if next-gen blows the Wii U out the water it won't come at a cheap price, but hey what do I know... I've just been a gamer for over 23 years. Same song and dance!
beerkeg  +   314d ago
I'm not going to give this a click. Sensationalist articles are really getting annoying now. Surely there must be better ways to get hits for your site?
twilight_link  +   314d ago
“Anyone who’s tried to read or write while watching TV knows that it’s difficult to split your attention between two things, unless one of them is less pressing.”

this is problem only in case of some mental disorder, or low to average IQ otherwise its absolutely irrelevant.
tiffac008  +   314d ago
I guess since the 3DS proved them wrong and they are getting tired of the Vita. Everyone is staring to take aim at the Wii U now. Can't we give these consoles a year or so before we judge them with all these doom and gloom articles?
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Zhipp  +   314d ago
This is a highly intelligent article. I say this because of the non-inflammatory title, total lack of conjecture of any kind, and clear impartiality of the author.
Excellent work, Miss Sara Swanson, I will most definitely be reading more of your stories in the future.

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