Sony’s ineptitude, Microsoft’s love of timed exclusives and Sony’s ineptitude again have completely pissed us off. - PSLS
Thus far the Vita has been horribly under utlized. The launch was meh, and the past 5 months have been like the past few years for the PSP -- next to nothing. When is Sony going to learn that SOFTWARE sells hardware. People aren't just going to buy it because it's awesome and plays youtube videos. I agree with Seb about the exclusives, though I also agree with Cam that sometimes the smaller titles need the publishing support that exclusivity brings to be able to publish the game at all. The DLC exclusives are stupid though.
people are stupid really. it didn't launch around the holidays, so, the sales aren't going to sky rocket just yet, and because it didn't launch around the holidays, you WONT see too much marketing for it UNTIL THEN, and guess what else we have to wait for until the holidays? yep you guessed it, GAMES, tho we did see a good amount followed by a dry couple months. people bitch and complain w/o using their brain, like i have to use it for them or something most of the time.... sales are at 2. something million, it's a $280-$340 handheld in the middle of a recession with not to many games or too much marketing, i think sony will come close to their 10million by march 2013. if you people think they should spend money on marketing for it NOW, please, never pursue business or marketing, you have no idea what's what.
So according to you people who thought it'd have sold more by now are stupid. Sony thought it would sell more by now and had to cut projections...
yes. and i guess i wasn't here when sony announced their monthly expectation, i only know of the "10m by the end of the fiscal year" prediction from them. everywhere i look on the internet Sony are ok with how the vita is doing now, it's certainly not exceptional, but for the reasons i stated above, it is doing what it should.
Vita haz no gaemz! deal with it, people don't buy the thing because there is no big games for it, IF Sony cared about the Vita not dying (lol) they could have secured Monster Hunter in Japan and some big franchise excluise to help in the rest of the world at least...
@PoSTeDUP as much as I love my vita sony did just have to cut their projected sales for the vita; which does imply it's under preforming, you are right we are only 5 months in but the issue they have and I have is not the vita's current performance but how it could be doing better and would be had sony done some simple things differently; we don't need more adverts we needed adverts that explained to people who don't sit on here what the vita was and why you should get one, Nintendo and Microsoft understand this about their products why do sony instead do silly adverts like the Live Action one for Europe.... As they said more games aren't needed but a few of the launch titles should have been released in subsequent months although for me I'm not too fussed about software and think it's doing rather well in this area and it's sony with all their 1st party support I'm sure they wont do another psp and leave us with few exclusives.... right sony?
Sony did like Uncharted GA, Unit 13, Resistance, Little Deviants, Motorstorm RC, Mod Nation Racers, Gravity Rush, MLB'12, Everybody's Golf, WipeOut, Escape Plan. And also in developement LBP, Sly 4, PS All Stars, Soul Sacrifice. WTF else do you want? More than dozen Sony's games in half a year for Vita. No PSP ever had that much love from Sony. And also there's Dokuro, MGS HD, Katamari, Rayman, some fightings, a whole bunch of downloadable games. Project Diva f, Persona 4, Assasin's Creed, Ys Celestia Sea of Trees to come. What more software are you talking about? Don't be ignorant - there's a whole lot of software out there and in developement for Vita. Gamers just turn a blind eye to PS Vita's software.
Sony's piss poor decisions never cease to amaze me.
Pretty much why they aint first place this gen
They are first in bringing original ips and more exclusives though in my book.
^^The PC actually has more original IPs and exclusives than any other gaming platform on the market.
@acharlez: Once crappy culture takes over in the company, it is next to impossible to get rid of it. It would be just like cockroaches that freaken survives every thing. If you look at the PS Vita, it almost exactly mirrors PSP, PSP Go, and PS3 release! Thought Sony learned a lesson? Think again!
Sony did like Uncharted GA, Unit 13, Resistance, Little Deviants, Motorstorm RC, Mod Nation Racers, Gravity Rush, MLB'12, Everybody's Golf, WipeOut, Escape Plan. And also in developement LBP, Sly 4, PS All Stars, Soul Sacrifice. WTF else do you want? More than dozen Sony's games in half a year for Vita. No PSP ever had that much love from Sony. Sony learned a lesson. And you just an ignorant hater.
@Ult iMate: Nobody is denying Sony is releasing "some" games for the PS Vita. I'm talking about real support not just internally, but also externally from third parties. You get them by reaching out to them and enticing them to produce content. Also, the games on PS Vita from first party is mostly just PS3 rehashes. People need a reason to own a PS Vita. Otherwise, they just play the superior version on PS3.
@nukeitall Oh please tell me about you playing PS3 in the bus or on the train/plane/line/elswhere outside/lying on the sofa in another room, and while in the WC ofcourse. That is the biggest reason for PSV - I don't need to stop playing big core games in exchange for shallow timekillers, when the PS3 is not available for me. Also downloadable games from PSN suits portable gaming perfectly. And there's also 3rd party support, you are just been ignorant again. "Dokuro, MGS HD, Katamari, Rayman, some fightings, a whole bunch of downloadable games. Project Diva f, Persona 4, Assasin's Creed, Oddworld, Ys Celestia Sea of Trees to come." And some more good and nice games that are just not to my taste. Make some research.
@ Ult iMate I am currently playing some free RPG's on my Samsung Galaxy s3 which are really quite enjoyable. I don't see why if I am playing free entertaining games on my phone I would need to pay $250+tax + cost of games when I am playing some FREE enjoyable games on my phone while, like you say, just riding a bus or train or basically in transit from point A to point B to ensure I am not bored to death because I am not at home to play on my PS3. I understand your point and agree that if you want to play that caliber of games while in between destinations but at the cost of the PSV and games might be a bit too high in ratio to the amount of time you will actually be using it while in transit. I just recently spent 1 week in Jamaica and at night when the wife was watching TV, I would use my phone to play some games. If I had a kid, I can see where the PSV would make more sense then a phone since I wouldn't let my kid use my phone and would need their own portable gaming system. However, Since price and the games library are important, I would probably invest into a 3DS for my kid. As of right now, I just see the PSV a luxury product if you have the money. Just like the PS3 was when it was first launched before it got a price cut. When the price comes down for the PSV, I can see it hitting mass market and be more attractive to customers. I wish I had one, I really want one, but I just can't justify the price in relation to what it's offering me right now at this very moment.
@Ult iMate: "Dokuro, MGS HD, Katamari, Rayman, some fightings, a whole bunch of downloadable games. Project Diva f, Persona 4, Assasin's Creed, Oddworld, Ys Celestia Sea of Trees to come." and none of those games are really worth playing as evident by their sales. None of those games makes it worth owning a $250 handheld. In fact, I would sooner buy a 3DS. Let's face it, PS Vita is second fiddle and only get's small side games from 1st party or 3rd party. As it stands, I just use my smart phone instead of a handheld. On long trips I would just bring my tablet instead. Both plays games, read books and do a lot more than a handheld. Most likely both have a bigger screen too!
@nukeitall >>and none of those games are really worth playing as evident by their sales. The old sales argument. Oh, right. Great games are not worth playing just because they are not on Nintendo's platform so they can sell more. You will be playing Mickey Mouse on 3DS, but not Dokuro. You will be playing Resident Evil, but no Gravity Rush, Uncharted or Unit13. You will be playing reharshed ports of Mohun, MGS and Zelda, but not ports of Sly, MGS HD or Oddworld. Just admit it - at least be honest to yourself - you are playing platforms and sales but not games, you are desperately denying great games on PSV for no reason. The sales are just poor excuse of yours. If hypothetically Dokuro, Uncharted, Gravity Rush or any other game would be on 3DS they would magically apeal to you or any other whiners out there in an instant. Just imagine this. That's the problem with Vita - the hypocricy of whiners. @Lvl_up_gamer >>However, Since price and the games library are important, I would probably invest into a 3DS for my kid. You are just been ignorant to PSV games. That is all. Go make some research. I'm tired posting lists. You guys just don't wanna see. You are simply turning the blind eye. You don't want to buy PSV for the only reason it's not Nintendo. What can I do about that? For now you can hit the disagree button, but that wouldn't change the truth.
@Ult iMate: The fact of the matter is that you are too busy protecting your favorite company this entire conversation that you can't see or comprehend anything else. Nintendo has done a wonderful supporting their handheld lately with a proper plan with the type of games people like to see on it for their kids. The device is well targeted. "you are playing platforms and sales but not games" PS Vita has completely missed the boat and that is why nobody is buying it. Yes, buying a product is the strongest vouch of confidence and interest a consumer can give. I wouldn't buy it at a lousy $300 (handheld + memory card) to play those games on it. I would sooner pay half of that and enjoy a 3DS that has far more games. So yes, sales are related to content and value! It is NOT about what you want, but what the general public wants!!! AND I think the public has spoken.
Nothing but another stupid rant.A mostly unintelligible rant just like the ones people went on with the PS3. The constant crying about the VITA is getting tiresome. Sony is making more games for it and we have seen many of those games. Crying about it isn't going to make it happen any faster.Sony gave us a ton of games at launch better then the crappy launch Nintendo gave us with the 3DS, where their best game was a remake of a game we haven't played in decades, and as usual Sony people just tossed it back in their face and demanded more. The VITA just needs people who appreciate what they are getting with it. Disagree with me all you like Sony people complain more then anyone else not because more things are being done to them it's just that they complain the most. @ doctorstrange what's the difference if you have them now or you have them later? What difference does it make if they are available now or they are spread out? They gave you a lot of them at launch and they are available now. So how would spreading them out be better? It would just be more complaining about how few games we got.
Not giving us as many games at launch and spreading it out so there isn't a drought would have been better.
How? There would be less games and genres to choose from. I've still got a fair few games to finish on my vita...plus there's a backlog of games I need to finish on the Ps3 AND all the full titles from ps+. Now we have sound shapes and lbp next month,those both look like massive time sinks. Games you can get lost in for hours making cool stuff.
"Not giving us as many games at launch and spreading it out so there isn't a drought would have been better." having a lot of games to chose from right off of the bat is worse than being limited to a slightly increasing small amount of games? i-i don't understand bro.
He's right in terms of stopping people complaining and the media. If they'd drip fed a smaller selection of games too slowly build up the library people would have had the illusion of more releases; hell as Vita owners we might have even ended up buying more software, personally I quite like how they've done it :P if the likes of Warriors Lair hadn't been delyaed it's have been even better :(
Vita advertising (and PlayStation advertising in general) is the most confusing to me. It's really bad, everyone says it's really bad and low sales show it's really bad. But Sony seems to have not gotten the memo... It's a real shame, because overall they have the best games.
Sony logic's: Hey lets build this bad a$$ device with the most advance hardware and spend millions on R&D and when were are done we can go play with those awesome paper clips on Kaz desk.
i dunno how you guys have difficulties finding games for your vita ... there are plenty to choose from and a very nice support from psp library so far ... the console is barely 6 months old in some countries ...what are you guys expecting ????
@Redempteur They said absolutely nothing about not having any games. They said that Sony should wrench their heads from their asses and get a good ad campaign going.
The advertising had a brief period a couple of years ago for the ps3 where it seemed to know what it was doing Kevin Butler in the usa and just decent adverts here. Then it went downhill again; the live action EU trailers are fine for people who already know about the thing but here's the thing uslot that new didn't need convincing it's all the people that don't really know.... We even said this on the EU PS Blog when they debuted the trailer there and still they made a further 3 before starting to even mention more info in a similar trailer I saw before the Dark Knight Rises the other day; sony seem to use CINEMA advertising alot which is a good thing tbf
*looks at clicking on editorial* *looks down* *continues to play Sound Shapes*
But not a system seller
...And being an awesome game isnt enough??? Thats the problem with the Vita, people whine about no games then when games release complain that it not system sellers, when it gets a system seller a new complaint will rear it ugly head. Its been the same thing all gen, with people/media hating on Sony... All the while giving others a pass All Sony needs to do is advertise the damn thing, that would help the Cita alot
Well this same post does bash MS, so it's not giving them a free past. The post is about poor sales, so the question of system sellerness is clearly relevant. The Vita needs to sell well to make publishers money, so they make more games on it, so then we can be happy. And yes, they need to advertise it already.