OXM UK: Developers shouldn't "push those buttons", says creative director.
You can understand some games getting canceled, but these awesome looking games still baffle us to this very day.
"Tommy saving the planet from an army of aliens after they abducted him and his entire bar, with the game ending on the promise that Tommy would be back, but that promise was never fulfilled"
The thing is with the original Prey 2 that Tommy wasn't even the main character, they replaced him with some generic looking space bounty hunter. It was a refreshing change to see an awesome Native American character with ancestral like powers fight aliens yet they ditched him. It was only after an outcry they showed much later in a new preview that Tommy was in the game as an NPC.
I'd have prefered a real sequel with Tommy as the main character, literally picking right up from the originals ending.
As for Eight Days...Sony really needs to pick this up
If Amy Hennig was still at ND, I'd have loved to see her tackle it after what she did with Uncharted.
I thought that was awesome too, and honestly i wish people werent so damn critical about cultural variety in games. I feel like people try to ruin devs lives if even one detail is off about their culture in a game and so everyone is too scared to try anymore
One of the lead engine programmers for Prey 2 at Human Head was my programming instructor when i was taking game design. This game was in limbo at the time and we asked once and only once about this game, the misery in his eyes when he told us "this is the 1st and only time ill ask you to never ask me about that game" was something ill never forget😅 he used a couple assets through the curriculum for teaching purposes but nothing very tangible. Just a function here, a 3d prop there. Such a shame. Years later i saw him at a magic tournament, we caught up and he still thinks about that game and how it's "practically done" probably sitting on a drive somewhere
Practically done? Jeez that fking blows because that looked much more interesting then what bethsada made. Don't get me wrong I enjoyed the one bethsada made.
Lmno looked interesting.
I'd knock titanfall and fez off the list. Add something else. Scarface 2 man only if would've been awesome. Prey 2 should be higher to. Either way not a bad list. Out of 20 there's only 2 I'd hate on.
That gen got a lot of games canned right before the finish line. Cipher Complex, Battlefront 3, legacy of kain dead sun just to name a few
One that's not on the list is Killing Day, I remember seeing the trailer in 2005 and being impressed at the time. Being Ubisoft you know it would have been a AAAA game too, lol
2 Days to Vegas and The Getaway 3 are two other games that seemed promising but never came out.
Sometimes even promising titles never see the light of day. These are five of the most ambitious games that shouldn't have been canceled.
Kojima wouldn't have started his own studio if Silent Hills didn't get cancelled so even if it stung at first, I'm fine with it.
i remember being so excited for patriots for years, only to have them release that siege trash. i hate how multiplayer games, pvp in particular, have ruined so many potentially good games.
Gotta wonder why Starcraft: Ghost literally became a ghost.
One of the titles we missed covering. But our guess? Uneasiness between Platinum and Microsoft.
Platinum said they actually deserve a lot of the blame. Realistically both parties made mistakes. Platinum bit off more than they could chew at the time, and MS didn't quite understand how to just sit back and let the devs work their magic.
Hopefully the two can come together and try again because the game sounded really good.
If it was a single player game I think it would have had a better chance of coming out . Ms wanted it to be online co-op . Dragon games aren’t easy to make and making it co-op is even harder and to me that was the major factor of why it failed
Not sure where people are getting their info that MS 'wanted' it to be co-op. From it's first teaser it was shown to have some type of co-op feature. It was probably pitched to MS as a multiplayer co-op game and Kamiya has gone on record saying he bit off a bit more than he could chew. You can definitely see elements on what they wanted to do with Scalebound in Bayonetta 3.
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@gangsta_red:
Largely because the game existed before MS wanted it. Another is that more if not all Xbox titles have been online coop. Lastly, in in-game continuity, it made no sense to have customized versions of the same character popping up for boss fights. At least, as a hyped feature of the game, I've never heard explanation for it.
Regardless of what a dev, who wants to do business with MS so likely isn't going to badmouth them, says. Of course they're going to share blame in what a client wanted, even if that one thing was the exact thing making the project "more than he could chew".
@godmars
"Largely because the game existed before MS wanted it."
Where are you getting this info from, because the story I've read is that Kamiya had the idea for a while and always wanted to make it but ultimately went with Bayonetta. He then pitched the idea to MS and then started to develop it. There may have been ideas for features from in other games that may have found there way to Scalbound, but Scalebound was not created beforehand.
"Another is that more if not all Xbox titles have been online coop."
That may be true for most MS games but that still doesn't mean it was mandated by MS for Platinum to do. And even if it was, Platinum agreed to do it, there wasn't a surprise by MS that they needed to add multiplayer halfway through development. That is not how third party development works, both parties agree through signed contracts beforehand what's expected with milestone deliverables.
"..it made no sense to have customized versions of the same character popping up for boss fights."
Not sure what you're not understanding, but there were customized versions of different players coming to help for boss fight. Maybe there was a mechanic to have characters equip different gear, the same type of features that is pretty standard found in multiple games of its type.
"Of course they're going to share blame in what a client wanted, even if that one thing was the exact thing making the project "more than he could chew"."
Kamiyah has never held back his opinions, he's been extremely outspoken in the past. Enough years has gone by for him to have told even a fraction of what you think might have happened and still not him or anyone from Platinum, from recent employees to any ex employee has said anything of what you are claiming.
Please shut up. You don't see anyone complaining about violence in movies or TV, yet they cry about games. Even though games have a rating system and consoles can lock kids out from playing the mature rated games that their idiotic, illiterate parents weren't supposed to buy them.
Lucas Arts needs to shut up now , the game looks promising , but so far got nothing different going on beside sthe star wars license .
Heck we dont even know if the game is any good
Well if you think people's games are too violent, feel free to set an example and stick a few Jar Jars in your games and go see how well that works for you.
Why is it that when directors make brutally violent movies it's considered an artistic vision but when games do it, it's just gratuitous violence?
Lucas arts,
Come back to me when you actually make an egaging game series with a character who isnt the biggest phaggot in the galaxy, with actual depth to the gameplay, actual interactions with characters and the environment etc etc.
Until then you have unimpressed me with your theatrical George Lucas showcase graphic whore masturbation material, 1313 looks far to much like a game trying very very hard to be a film.
Get some credibility before you start bashing other studios.
Since we cant be psychopaths in real life, these games give us the escapism we need.
If it was just mature and no gore, screw this star wars game. Dont want my most powerful weapon in the game to knock enemies out for 24 hours.
Not so much a " creative director," are you?