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Submitted by LoudHawk 725d ago | opinion piece

10 Reasons Why Trophies Are Better Than Achievements

Trophies are better than achievements. Therefore you are better and cooler for earning trophies. As much as people try to deny it, once you start it’s hard to stop. You love your points. Whether it be in trophies, gamerscore, or even the 3DS achievements, every one has something keeping track of how well they’re doing. (PS3, Xbox 360)

versusALL  +   725d ago
There both the exact same thing to me.
jwk94  +   725d ago
But they're not. One is score-based and the other is level-based, representing an RPG of sorts. Both have their ups and downs. I personally prefer Trophies because of the level system as well as the Platinum. There's just something good about knowing that you can't get that trophy until you obtain the rest.
r21  +   725d ago
that and it shows how committed a gamer is to that particular game :D havent got one myself but hopefully i'll get one when with inFamous 2.
nukeitall  +   725d ago
I would like to be rewarded with a platinum, but dislike the level up system and the excessive breaking up trophies to bronze, silver, gold and platinum on PSN. It's excessive and unnecessary.

The ideal system would be the simple achievement type scoring combined with a platinum like award. Simple is good in my opinion.
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dc1  +   725d ago
@R21
InFamous 2 is a good start. I'm a gaming addict and Trophy Hunter for sure.

Have fun being pulled in :)
EVILDEAD360  +   724d ago
Fanbloggers can come up with a billion reason why they believe trophies are better it won't change how addictive and fun collecting achievements have been on the 360 since day one.

Live made the achievement system what they are today and hardcore 360 gamers cherish them with their life.

I said it for years...achievements are crack..people think its just a score but its so much more than that for gamers on Live. I love my PS3 slim but achievements are the main reason I buy 99% of multis on the 360 and buy the big exclusive ls on my PS3.

Carrying over achievements and Live accounts is a major reason why 720 will have a huge early adoption rate from the hardcore 360 heads.

But at the end of the day, neither system outdoes the other in my opinion..it's simply your preference..

Evildead
ShinMaster  +   724d ago
@EVILDEAD360
You people come up with a billion reasons as to why you think Achievements are better, but it won't change how addictive and fun collecting Trophies have been since they were implemented on the PS3.
Truth is, they're the same. They work the same exact way.
It's just Achievements. Calm down.

Trophies will also carry over to PS4 the same way they did to PS Vita. So again, it's not that special.

I personally like Trophies because of their Leveling system which is almost like a mini-game of its own, allowing for competition between friends.

Now, I'm not gonna give you some melodramatic BS about how "hardcore gamers cherish them with their lives" lol, but the truth is people care more about Trophies or Achievements depending on the system they play the most and which system most of their friends are on.
So it's down to perspective. But they're basically the same. Sorry.
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@nukeitall

Trophies are broken down into 3 distinguishing values: Bronze, Silver and Gold. That's more simple than random numbers. So I don't know what you mean by it needing to be more simple.
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jwk94  +   724d ago
EVILDead

Nobody is saying one is more addicting than the other. both are fun and engaging ways of rewarding the gamer for accomplishing otherwise menial feats. Like I already stated, both have their ups and downs, and both are nice additions to this generation of gaming. Hopefully they carry into the next generation.
Oh_Yeah  +   724d ago
jwk94, exactly. i look at trophies kinda like a mini rpg of your game history. i look at achievements as a high score of your game history kinda like on a arcade machine. i like rpgs more than any arcade game ive played.thats why i prefer trophies. you can blame pokemon, final fantasy, elder scrolls and fallout etc for me liking trophies more. leveling up is addictive, high scores? not as much imo
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daggertoes83  +   725d ago
Platinums are a gamers best friend
Oh_Yeah  +   724d ago
the only game i have a platinum in is skyrim. theres endless amounts of things to do in that game so i figured why not? open world games with alot to do i might go for it. but how do you sit there and plat linear games? must feel like a chore imo because its the same thing over and over. once i beat a game like max payne, its over with..idc about getting 100% in those.
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ThePUNisher  +   725d ago
Not giving them hits for a stupid topic but I must admit, that is one cool URL.
Tzunoy  +   725d ago
Yeah yeah remember that Microsoft is the Father of this. Need to say more?
Chug  +   725d ago
Nope, you can be quiet now.
GribbleGrunger  +   725d ago
I think you'll find that Insomniac are the father of Trophies. Just for reference sake, they were called: 'skill points'. Click if you date:

http://www.neoseeker.com/re...

need I say more?
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GTRrocker666  +   725d ago
Uncharted 1 had in game trophies too before the trophy patch
nukeitall  +   725d ago
The idea of awarding something is pretty old and predates Insomniacs existence.
GribbleGrunger  +   725d ago
I'm talking about what predates Trophies, nothing else. generally speaking, you are right, but as far as Sony is concerned and Trophies, it is Insomniac that did it first and not MS as the comment suggested
Perjoss  +   725d ago
Its true that awards have been around for a while but Microsoft were the first games company to make a system that carries over accross multiple games. It was copied by Sony, Valve and Blizzard.
Wintersun616  +   725d ago
And that makes it better how exactly?

Also MS was only the first to make achievements universal across all games on a console. There were similar systems in some games way before. MS didn't come up with the whole idea, like you're implying.
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smashcrashbash  +   725d ago
Exactly. Just because Microsoft and their fans trumpet it out loud more then anyone else did doesn't mean they invented it. Achievements existed long before Microsoft ever decide to 'invent' them. I won't put down what Microsoft did with them anymore then I will put down Sony streamlining memory cards to a better more compact form but give credit where credit is due.
Kran  +   725d ago
MICROSOFT'S CONSIDERED A GUY?!

:P
ALLWRONG  +   724d ago
Achievements are in fact an innovation by MS, copied by Sony.

Games have been keeping score and rewarding players from the beginning. Keeping score or rewarding players across an entire platform = Achievements.
Blitz001  +   725d ago
What a idiotic article...
JBSleek  +   725d ago
Fanboys will find anything to fight over don't they.

Next we are gonna see 10 reasons why PS3 face buttons are better than Xbox360.

I wonder when will gamers grow up.
Hellsvacancy  +   725d ago
But the PS3 has got better face buttons

lol
GribbleGrunger  +   725d ago
What is remarkable about this site is the way some people respond to positive articles that are not MS related. article after article of negative points concerning Nintendo and Sony are met with applause by MS fanboys, but the moment anything goes in any direction but theirs, they pull the bias line. Anyone who has followed this site can see quite clearly that the majority of negativity is always aimed at Nintendo or Sony, so have the balls to suck it up when it doesn't go your way. And in your own words: grow up
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Spydiggity  +   724d ago
this is such a hypocritical statement.
Outside_ofthe_Box  +   725d ago
I'm not saying that disagree with what you are saying. I agree with what you are saying 100%.

But just feel that if this article was "10 reasons why Achievements are better than Trophies" instead you wouldn't have made this comment.
JBSleek  +   724d ago
I own all systems and i don't claim to be perfect in not being bias but if it was opposite i would as well.

The only thing I'm very critical of concerning Sony is Vita.

But you are right I'm human and bias to an extent but I'm critical f all companies but I just hate hypocrisy.
swat_teem  +   724d ago
i think the ps3 buttons are better easy like X is soo much better then A :P
Series_IIa  +   725d ago
My picture of a badly drawn trophy is better than your obtuse number...
gamer7804  +   725d ago
I use both, there is a certain excitement that comes with achievements that i don't get with trophies. Maybe the way its displayed, the sound that goes with it. The fact that its consistent as you get higher, the fact that all games have achievements on the system.

It's all just an opinion, i know people on both sides that like one over the other. Play on what you like, you can't "prove" one is better than the other.
mayberry  +   725d ago
my platinums really do say something to other gamers, whereas achievement score are pretty generic unless it very high, IMHO.
andibandit  +   724d ago
Yes your platinums do say something to other gamers, but i bet they dont say what you think they say.
Trenta27  +   725d ago
I have had my fair share of both trophies and achievements. I just prefer achievements. The level up system of the PS3 has never caught my fancy. When I'm going for achievements, I feel this racing of my heart to beat all my friends and have the higher score. When I play on the PS3, I don't feel that. While platinums are really nice, I don't strive for them.
GTRrocker666  +   725d ago
Probably because people don't care about their trophy score on Ps3. It was never really emphasized with the community.
Treian  +   725d ago
they are all useless to me. I just enjoy my games.
ChunkyLover53  +   725d ago
I prefer Achievements, I like getting them for completing certain levels or something like that in games, where as Trophies are usually not as straight forward. Get 30 kills with this gun or that gun ect..

Also, Achievements have been with the Xbox 360 since launch, which means every Xbox 360 game since 2005 supports them, Trophies weren't mandatory until 2009, there are some games that I'd buy on PS3 hoping to get some easy Trophies only to find out that Trophies aren't supported.

Sometimes the original is still the best. I'll take Classic Coke over New Coke any day.
GTRrocker666  +   725d ago
Huh? ( to the fiirst paragraph)

Trophies and achievements are the exact same in multiplatform games . I have never seen a case where a ps3 game had much difference than the 360 version in trophy/achievements.
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ChunkyLover53  +   725d ago
I meant mainly for exclusive titles, a lot of the Achievements on exclusive titles are for random things like kill a certain amount of people with this type of gun or that type. I prefer the Achievements that you get after simply beating a level or a boss, Microsoft seems to offer more of those in their exclusives.

The second part is pretty self explanatory, of course I'm going to like the idea of every game I buy or rent having Achievements, where as I have to look up something ahead of time for PS3 games.
Outside_ofthe_Box  +   725d ago
Um, in trophies for exclusives games they do have trophies where you'd get a trophy for defeating a boss or a certain level. They just also have trophies that require you to use certain guns and get x amount of kills with it in addition to those trophies. It just makes it more challenging to plat a game is all.
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ChunkyLover53  +   724d ago
In the games post 2009 you mean? My main reason for preferring Achievements aside from it being the first next gen console to offer such a thing, was the fact that all games offer them, where a lot of early games for the PS3 don't.
MrBeatdown  +   724d ago
@Chunky

"In the games post 2009 you mean?"

Are you just trying to troll or what? What other games would he be talking about? OBVIOUSLY he was talking about the games with trophies, not the trophies in herp derp... games that don't have trophies. He clearly was responding to your bit about the type of trophies/achievements in exclusives. In order to actually discuss the type of trophy, they actually have to, you know, exist.
BelieveinGhosts  +   725d ago
Pointless article, silly reasons that are just the ideas of a fan boy
Acquiesc3  +   724d ago
Trophies do have a better system going on, but they're otherwise pretty much the same.
MrBeatdown  +   724d ago
Pretty much this. I like the platinum trophy as it's an easy way to see how many games have been completed, especially when DLC trophies/achievements are thrown in. Plus, I think the menu system is better. I like that the requirements and unlock date are all visible in the main list without the need to click through. There's the list organization options too.

I like the gamerscore though. Levels aren't great for comparison. I'm level 21. I have no idea where that puts me in comparison to a guy at level 17. I know where I stand if I have 21000 and someone else has 17000 though. If Sony adjusted it so one game's worth of trophies boosted you one level, it'd be perfect.
StreetsofRage  +   724d ago
I prefer achievements. It's been with the 360 since day 1 unlike my ps3 that got trophies way after. Plus, I just don't have the same want to get trophies. Achievement hunting is addicting.

And did somebody on here seriously say that Ratchet and Clank is the father of achievements? Somebody is actually comparing one game vs. a total gamerscore of every game played?

Naaaaaaaa, nobody is that stupid on here.
Omnislash  +   724d ago
I have 14 platinums, yet my friend on xbox live has a big gamerscore but no perfect 1000 point scores on any games. The trophy breakdown determines what kind of gamer you are while your gamerscore pretty much just says how long youve had your xbox for.

I think its awesome getting the platinum trophy or saying, "I have the platinum for (Insert game)".
StreetsofRage  +   724d ago
It's the same thing dude. I have many perfect games which is the equivalent of Platinum. It's pretty much like the following...

250: Bronze
500: Silver
750: Gold
1000: Platinum.

Do you really need a visual item to show you what you have compared to numbers? It's the same. Only difference is that the 360 supports all the games and the ps3 doesn't.
Omnislash  +   724d ago
yeah but nobody really goes through your list they pretty much just look at your score and base your gamer status on that. It is basically the same thing but I just like getting platinums rather than just getting the entire score, a platinum is like a reward for getting everything..
Krew_92  +   724d ago
Actually they both support every game equally now.

After trophies came out Sony made it a requirement for developers to make any game they made from the launch of trophies onward, to include trophies.

Although there are still a handful of games that don't have trophies on PS3, but do have them on Xbox 360, but that was before Sony stepped in and made trophies mandatory.
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Hicken  +   723d ago
You could have a 5 million gamer score and never get EVERY Achievement in ANY game(I'm exaggerating, but you get the picture). In order to see how many games you've gotten EVERY Achievement in, someone would have to do some digging.

Two buttons tells me whether or not my friend has any Platinums(the particular friend I'm looking at has none). Quick and easy breakdown of how many of each type of trophy; one more button press can compare the trophies he has to the ones I have.

They're not really the same. I mean, they do the same thing, but in different ways.
LoudHawk  +   724d ago
I feel trophies are a genuinely better system, as they provide a better overview at a glance. On the other hand, I feel that they are bottlenecked by some of the problems that PSN suffers from, such as its social interaction. Trophies mean nothing if you have no one to share them with.

That's just my 2 cents.
ajax17  +   724d ago
I suck
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StrongMan  +   724d ago
Everyone knows trophies are better. There's nothing like getting the all prestigious platinum trophy. That's far better than just 1000 points. You can get 1000 points just by playing enough games but there's only one way to get a platinum trophy.
ALLWRONG  +   724d ago
Trophies are just a last minute copy of Achievements. Then followed by Nintendo, Steam, and everyone else. History will remember "Achievement Unlocked" as innovation, not trophies. Trophies are cute and they help Sony to try and stay relevant, but it is what it is... a copy.
homer  +   724d ago
I hate when people like this author say psn plus gives free games. THEY'RE NOT FREE! YOU PAY 50 DOLLARS FOR THEM!
Still a good deal for those who do not collect games...
devilhunterx  +   724d ago
50 dollars per game?
chuckyj1  +   724d ago
What he is saying is...You only have the ability to play those "free games" only as long as you are subscribed to playstation plus.

Meaning technically they are not free, because when you end your membership, you also lose all of those Free games.

I will say that is not actually a bad perk, but not "Free" with no strings attached.
chuckyj1  +   724d ago
TOP 1 Reason why xbox Achievement pts are better....

Sometime this year MS will make an announcement that actually may make them worth something...

Right now they both suck, because really they are meaningless...

They are nothing more then novelty right now. We will have to wait and see what MS announces to see what it is, but if it is a decent program...That would easily put it on top of trophies.
Rjs37  +   724d ago
I own both consoles but I have to say I much prefer achievements over trophies. I just don't feel the same sense of accomplishment from collecting trophies as I do from achievements.

I've platinummed a couple of games but I weren't bothered at all about them. Whereas on 360 I'll conciously go through and try and 100% or 1K the game. I would like to see MS copy Sony in reognising when you have completed a game but that's the only thing from Sony's system that I miss.

Oh and coincidentallly I recently did an article myself on why we find collecting achievements/trophies so compelling which you can find on my profile.
Roccetarius  +   724d ago
10 reasons why trophies are exactly the same as achievements.

Stupid article is stupid. -.-

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