tech.co.uk staff 29 Jan 2008 05:30 GMT - Straight-talking Seagate CEO Bill Watkins has told Wired magazine that Blu-ray's apparent victory over HD DVD is meaningless given that the future belongs to downloads rather than physical discs.
Nothing we haven't heard before.
Don't Seagate make hard drives?
They would do very well when downloads become the norm....many years down the line.
of course the CEO of a company that makes hard drives thinks that the future belongs to downloads, i dont know but if you ask me, id much rather have the physical media then a download
as easy as downloading an MP3, then I don't think things are in much danger. Even the CD industry isn't out of the business and, I know plenty of people that still buy CD's. This limited bandwidth thing could really put a damper on his little idea too.
I mean a hd guy saying dl's are the future no bias there fact is until we get a decent high speed infrastructure in NA its a pipe dream here. And even then b/r will have a big apeal to those who want the best quality and all the advantages of owning a disk vs some drm ladened crud.
There's still a large percentage of people who don't have high speed internet and also a lot of people are computer literated enough to navigate through programs to download a movie. It's much easier to buy hardware and connect cables or hire someone to do that for you and then go to the store buy discs. Blu-ray winning does matter and it will be the main format for the next 10 years.
Yeah. No one doubts that DD is the way of the future but when it takes a couple of days to download a movie it's not realistic yet. When Bandwidth improves then of course DD will be the way(Hell I wouldn't mind getting rid of most of my discs).
Out of personal opinion I like Seagates HDD (they are in my top three HDD creators), but really either way its just an opinion. He said quote "HD [DVD] versus Blu-ray... Well maybe Blu-Ray won, but it's a meaningless victory, because if you look at the CES show, there were devices everywhere, all designed to enable you to MOVE and SHARE content electronically. These were all storage devices - none of them had physical distribution of content," he said. ---But you see he Said Move and share, not download and upload. Obviously he didn't think too far into it, before he said that. And then again don't we all use usb keys for school and to exchange files (I use a Samsung P2 with bluetooth to exchange stuff)
DD depends upon it.
Tech heads like most people on this site can deal with current speeds, but the public in general will only accept a much improved service.
I think that is still years away.
3yrs from now they will still be saying the same thing. Eagerly awaiting for digital downloads to take off. I think the traditional insert disc in player will prevail in most households for a little while longer.
You do have to look at the benefits of being able to distribute world wide digitaly getting to the far reaches for the same cost it does appear to be the future. Plus seagate isn't hurt from bootlegging either... Win win for them.
As soon as everyone has an optical cable, DD will be reality.
Currently the guy should just stick to his HDDs.
as time goes on the speed will increase. right now optimum online is one of the nest you can get in the us. i have them and my connection in 24 down and 5 up. they are working on improving it to 50 down not sure how much up. also seageate wants to release a MM HDD 300 TB by 2010. thats why he says the win is pointless.
I use Optimum Online and i LOVE IT
it's natural for him to say that since his company operates Storage Devices but it's a bit too early for Digital Distribution. Home networking must catch on first and his company will benefit from that, after that we can talk about Digital Distribution. There should be no Rights Management because I don't want to buy content for a single product and re buy it for another. Other nations must develop their fiber backbone before they drop Physical storage.
Haha yeah I think his professional "opinion" is what he HOPES will happen. I duno about everywhere else but down in Australia, stories are popping up all over the place about people simply losing their internet connection because they are downloading to much.
Dude who produce's HDD's says Downloads are the future.... hmmm wonder why...? remind me, what do you store your downloads on? oooh hold on a minute....
i take a disc over a download till the day i die.
gotta quote that last sentence :)
Obviously he's an HD DVD supporter / owner. Boring!
As long as my storage capacity and my connection speed can't handle 50 GB movies I'll stay do the discs. And it will probably stay that way for a long time.
Disagree? That's funny. Some one out there apparently know me better then I do.
Most people in the UK get no more than 2MB to the door. Even thought they get told they get up to 8MB. Anythime after 5 till 12 at night 90% of the ISP's CAP there connection. So this will not happen for at least 10 years in the UK.
There is no chance DD will rule within the next 5-7 years. Im a huge supported of physical storage for Entertainment Products since i really dislike the fact of only owning something digital, and seeing just looking at my friends family and colleagues i know no one who would actually rather download a movie (payment) then buying the disc and beeing able to watch it whenever where ever they want. the problem with DD still is DRM and i totally disagree to pay for a movie THEN download it wich will take some time and then beeing forced to delete the movie within 30 days or beeing forced to backup it to my own bought discs. Sorry fellow harddrive manufactures but ill stick to bluray for at least 5-6 years from now on, and where talking bout movies and games, and seeing bluray supporting up to 100gb and movies beeing able to have up tp 4+ hours of full hd media i see no reason for any further improvement in videoquality for quite some time @ above yes i really dont know how companys think people will download 35gb or more of data for a movie with takes AGES for the avaerage joe since not everyone is willing to pay 40€+ for a superpast connection, and seeing isp's rolling back theyre flatrates because of the huge amount of data people download nowadays sorry DD looses if its about the massmarket and the average movie guy "i take a disc over a download till the day i die." mighty douche quote
Thank u. I 100% agree with u. Even if Download speed is 200m/s and people can download a 30 GB movie within 6-10 hours, that is also impractical. I personally think Digital Downloads are only for small episodes of TV shows that u watch on u'r PC not on TV..
Digital download services will find a niche market, but they will not be the standard consumer choice around the world for quality films, for at least 10 years yet.
Until most homes have extremely fast internet access, this kind of content delivery can never gain mass market acceptance. I can't comment on the US, but certainly here in the UK, theres still a huge mumber og households not even on the net and many still using dial up services. Even Broadband services in the UK are blighted by restrictive download limits and excessive 'line profiling' that seriously restricts speeds at peak times. It will be a very long time before we have a fats enough 'pipe' in every household to make this a reality.
Add to the distribution issue the kind of content being offered:-
The attraction of the disc based formats is full 1080P High Definition picture and uncompressed sound, as well as a host of extra features. Compare this with something like 'Apple TV' with its heavilly compressed 720P content, compressed sound and lack of 'extra's'. Its not even the same market!
The final nail is the lack of physical ownership. Restrictive rights that limit how many times or when you can watch a product you have bought? The inability to take it round a friends house to watch it? These are real issues that Digital Distribution has yet to solve.
There no question that at some time in the far future, digital distribution for such content will be the norm. But anyone doing a subjective analysis would have to say that that time is a long long way off yet, and a format like Blu Ray has at least a decade before it sees real competition from Digital distribution.
Fantastic comment as always!
room for another bubble? i think so...
Another massive hamperer for UK broadband is contention. The contention ratio for the average service is 50:1 maybe higher for some extra budget services. These services rely on people using their service at different times however this always fulls short with people regularly leaving there computers running to download while they are away. There are other services with a 20:1 ratio but more premium prices come with these.
I think one of the intended transportation mechanisms for HD dowloads is portable hard drives. However, as big as hard drives can get these are still limited by size. You can't yet keep a library of HD films on a hard drive.
Another, more simple, reason why downloads wont take off quickly is that I think people like to display their library in their homes. A film library almost becomes a feature in a home and picking out a film can almost become like a trip to the film rental store. I think people like this simple pleasure.
Great comment - i've read a lot about the digital download restrictions, and the general feeling in the industry is that the restricted number of repeat watches for a movie is the "nirvana" for the big studios.
The only problem, as i see it, is that people have now become used to ownership being not too far removed (on a price basis) from rental. If you go to blockbuster, and rent a dvd for 3 nights, it will set you back £2.50 or so. The same movie can be bought for around £9, so if you like the movie, you might as well buy it.
If the big studios really want this, they have to be weary of the level of consumer acceptance they'll get. It will take a long time, even if the infrastructure is in place to allow the technology to work, for consumers to accept the fact that they no longer own the right to watch something as many times as they wish. It definately has potential in the rental space - highstreet video and dvd rental is dying a slow death, but people will still want to own their own copies of movies - and i dont think that will change for a very long time.
Bubble for you sir :O)
Bubble for you, you hit the nail right on the head.
One of the big complaints about broadband in the UK is the up to clause, where the company says they can supply up to 8mb/s where the reality is you'll be getting around 4mb/s if your lucky.
Fine if your playing on line, but if everyone started downloading films, it would just slow down your connection so that you couldn't play your game at the same time...but if everyone started downloading films it would bring the whole system down as the whole band width gets taken up the the service provider servers go down.
I agree that digital downloads will never be the standard of choice for the consumer, for all the reasons that you give in your comment.
But surely the same can be said for the Blu Ray / HD DVD format as well. I myself have a Blu Ray player with a Samsung HD TV, and while films like Spiderman, Casino Royal and 300 are a step up from standard DVD even I can concede that the extra £10.00 - £15.00 it costs for a sharper picture probably isn’t worth it.
This is just my opinion but DVD became the standard because it was a definite step up from VHS, also it became affordable within a short space of time (you can pick a DVD recorder for around £20.00 now). But with Blu Ray / HD DVD your asking customers to purchase a player plus a HD TV (and if you want 1080p, a 42inc plus TV) just for a sharper picture.
I personally just can’t see how either of these formats can become the standard, at least not I the foreseeable future.
You hit the nail right on the head. Couldn't of said it better.
Thanks all! It's great to have a decent conversation without trolling going on eh? :)
I think you make some valid points, and I believe you are partially correct!
However - don't assume the price difference will always be the barrier it is today. Currently the media is priced at 'early adopter level', but the cost of production and duplication has been falling and as the userbase grows, economy of scale together with increased competition will see these prices fall quickly - don't forget how expensive DVD was in its early days.
Whilst the visual difference to your average consumer is not the kind of leap you could expect from video to DVD, don't forget that many people are definitely buying into the High Def TV market now, and that market is becoming increasingly filled with much more affordable 1080P sets. For those that have bought such a unit, the option to pick up a source device that exploits it and 'shows it off' will be a big driving factor for the formats adoption.
The last driver of adoption is simply the wow factor if you see it elsewhere! I run a Sony X3500 TV (XBR4 in the states) and playing a disc like 'The Blue Planet' through my PS3 can give an almost 'holographic' picture!:) There been a few guests round at my place have left with a desire to own a new HD telly and a blu ray player :)
Ultimately, I think its right that the Blu ray market will never be as big as DVD became, but it will still be a huge market and a big revenue earner for the movie studios regardless.
Lord2008 - I would have to disagree. Obviously as the comment above has stated, Most new electronics are highly priced at the start.
full HD is fast becoming the regular joe accessory. In my opinion blu ray will take over the dvd market because the world is moving to HD (Tv channels etc) and people will make the move to(even if they dont notice the difference). Its just in the early stages but now even full Hi def is becoming affordable. (I am 18 working 2 nights a week and i just bought a sony bravia X 46" TV don't ask how)
The difference between regular and HD dvds is actually quite evident if you have the right set up. (I watched a dvd on my parents flat screen the other day and it nearly killed my eyes with blur.)
Now days Average joe is gettin a bigger tv aswell:P
It’s nice to have replies from non fanboys.
The point I was trying to make was that when the cost of HD TVs and Blu Ray Players drops in price it’s still a total cost of two electronic products, as opposed to just a DVD player when people switched over from VHS.
Saying this you do make valid points in your replies. And I personally hope your both right as the more people who upgrade to Blu Ray the sooner the movies will come down in price.
That is just wishful thinking at it's best. DD is a lonnnnggg way to go. Sure, download 50 movies into a hard drive at 15-30gb each, plus extras, and take how long before optical gets into the general consumers?
And then let's say DD is here, one quick power surge to your HDD and goodbye movies, you have to re-download them again.
I already download more movies/episodes/games than I can possibly play in my freetime, and I do have a lot of free-time.
Plus, keeping the movies to "watch over and over again" is such a nerd thing to do, even with loads of free space I only keep VERY rare stuff..
My speed is 500Kbps btw.. not 5Mbps..lol
With slow connection that future is far off. Not everybody has internet either. Everybody with internet has to have a super fast minimum speed not 5 MBPS crap. Taking a guess but at least 50 MBPS.
I am happy with the download speed, if they use the torrent principle e.g download in packets from more than one source then the speeds will increase, I was supposed to be on 16mb but once over 10mb things slowed down so that has to be the line capacity.
How big is 300? it took bout 1.5hrs.
"As long as my storage capacity and my connection speed can't handle 50 GB movies I'll stay do the discs. And it will probably stay that way for a long time."
50gb movies are not needed, anyone who makes a 50gb film is promoting high storage falsely.
Personally, I love having something tangible that "shows" the fact i own a movie. My dvd and cd collections are my pride and joy, and even though i do use bittorrent on occaision to *ahem* sample things, i will always buy them if i feel like the material enough. A part of that, for me, is the fear that the hard drive i happen to have the material on, may suddely fail - I consider myself to be fairly technically aware, so i can only imagine what fears the less aware individuals may have of the same occurance.
As much as digital storage of movies and music is really taking off, i'm sure there are a lot of people like me who like to own the cd/dvd too, and as such i think it will be a very big change in mindset for people to put those feelings aside and embrace all their movies/tv etc being entirely intangible.
Lets say you could just have them stored in a server. You can have your movies stored in a database/hard disk on the internet and instead of downloading you can just view it from the web-browser. All you need is a user account with whoever provided the services like a microsoft partner. You can view all your tv shows and movies this way and there would not be a need to download the movies. There really isn't a need to have a disc player or a hard copy of movies if this is possible. Blue ray is good for now, but i'm pretty sure it wont last 10 years, heck it wont even make it to 5 years.
Your talking about streaming. It'll take even faster internet to stream 720/1080p flawlessly.
The point of having HD copies (BR/HDDVD) is the entire experience. Besides the issue of Bandwidth, I don't like watching movies on my laptop unless I am travelling. Yes, you can stream movies with certain setups, but again, bandwidth comes into play. The HD video bandwidth and also the HD audio bandwitdth are factors. So you are okay with paying a fee everytime you want to access that movie you want to watch on their server??? Join Netflix. I am happy with (and require) my hard copy of my bluray movie for that uninterrupted movie experience that you can't get from a DD at this point in its "lifespan".
As much as I would love to live in an age of Digital Downloading being a reality...I do not. Digital Downloading of movies is an entirely different horse than music, etc... Especially when you bring into the matter of HD versions. The movie studios will never give up DRM in one form or another. This would allow one person to buy the film and just give it to all their friends or even worse..., put in online even if for a short time before getting caught. Piracy is the main hindrance behind the movie studios reluctance IMO. Also, there are not many sites where you can buy a movie to download and get it in the clear (ie...limited number of views...have to renew ownership rights...etc...) and those, from the ones I have seen are at a much lower resolution. I don't know about you, but if I am going to spend money on a movie... I want to be able to play it in HD, anytime and anywhere I am without having to pay more money for it to view it again. Discs allow that option and can be encoded easily onto your computer to take with you...which is what I do. I have my entire DVD collection backed up on my laptop. The other problem with DD's are the bandwidth problems... I would venture to say that we in the US are the most behind in this matter. I have the fastest connection possible in my area for a residential and it still can take up to 2 hours at peak times to download a HD movie. This is unacceptable if DD's are to succeed. He is probably right in the notion that DD's are going to be big in the future (and of course we will need his large HDD's to store all of them...LOL), but that is still a ways off in the future IMO.
He's absolutely right. It may take longer to get away from the old formats but sooner or later it's all going to be stored as data. The RIAA has been crying and fighting reality for years now and to a smaller extent so has the MPAA. The old school way of doing things is going away and the companies that do business that way are like horseshoe makers trying to convince the world not to buy cars. Data on a physical medium is going to be completely obsolete sooner or later.
But I doubt it will happen in our lifetimes to get HD audio/video on the fly per se. Would be nice...but until then...enjoy your BR or HDDVD (whichever you support)
Especially when you consider the money firms loose with piracy.
can i easily bring my downloaded movies and content over to a friends house, so we can watch, say, Superbad together? can i let my family or friends borrow said movies and content *WITHOUT having to hand over my hard drive (meaning that i can't watch the movies i have on my hard drive, unless i go *WITH it when i lend it to my family and friends)? can i download movies and content faster than it would take to, i don't know, walk across the street to the video/game store next to my house, or the three blocks to the Best Buy on the corner? can, if i wanted to, or needed to, trade in content and movies that i'm tired of for store credit, which i can in turn, use for things like more movies and content or video games? i can't? well then, hard disc media isn't going *ANYWHERE anytime soon, so you can kindly sit down, shut the f*ck up, and count your money. there are too many physical, and technological hurdles for digital distribution to overcome before it becomes the defacto standard for media. technologies like Blu Ray will be necessary for at *LEAST, another 5 years or so, plenty enough for the Blu Ray folks to make @ssloads of money. i'm not saying that i *DON'T think digital distribution will happen (i most certainly do think it will), but the majority of people that are buying content like movies, etc, aren't as tech savvy as the folks that peruse the internet everyday, going to tech sites and getting excited over things like digital distribution. my mother is a *HUGE movie purchaser, and she barely knows how to hook up her DVD player properly. she rents movies from places like Netflix, but she's the type of person that likes to watch her movies over and over again, and she's just *NOT a tech person. now, myself, and my nieces and nephews, sure, this stuff is for *OUR generation, but the primary market for films still is the over 40 crowd. give it another 5-10 years, then lets talk again.
...you're flying overseas? Bring your mp3 player and maybe a portable DVD player for the flight. You grab some of the DVDs you like, and you're ready to go in 10 minutes.
...you're on a long road trip with little kids? You pop in a DVD and show them a movie to keep them occupied.
...you're in the military or a job that takes you on the road for a long period of time? You bring your favorite CD's and DVDs with you.
...when your 3-year old wants to watch "The Incredibles" RIGHT NOW! You pop in the DVD and go back to whatever you were doing.
In all these cases, physical media is needed. There will be a market for DD but the masses will demand physical media for flexibility. And where do you make your money? In the masses. Blu-ray victory meaningless? Hardly.
This is coming from a guy who makes hard drives. Nuff said
after all is said, why not download the stuff then burn it on a dvd or hddvd bluray disc to 'archive' and/or save space? that's what i would do, it's more practical.
As already precedented with music and video currently, all we will be getting is low quality files with obtrusive copy protection at ripoff prices. Doesn't the future of DD sound great? Give me a disc any day!
Yeap...sums it up about right. Give me physical anyday.
The music industry is steadily crumbling because of illegal downloading. When will people understand that if you dont pay for it, it wont be around forever. But then .. Why would you pay for it if you can get it for free.
Who finishes last here?
By the way its nice to see sensible forums :) and discussion.
Dude, you already get that with current BD and HD titles. Most of them except for blockbuster titles either have video or audio issues. Read some HiDefdigest reviews and you'll see what I mean. Your paying $30+ for a title that sometimes has fewer special features then the $19 std def disc. They all have DRM's on them to protect them from being copied. BD discs are even region encoded...for another layer of security. You do realize you can DL 720p/5.1 movies and you can DL 256k AAC files with no DRM's now.
Your points about blu-ray and hd-dvd are spot on, it's a new technology with a lot of problems, but I believe once it becomes mainstream it will be just as reliable as DVD which will offer me high quality video at 1080p at a very high bitrate, a problem DD has due to size. Resolution is meaningless if it lacks in bitrate, IMO. Price and special features of HD media will no doubt decrease and increase respectively when it becomes the norm. The DRM on discs are not quite as problematic as DD have been to me, sure you require a program like AnyDVD to make backups, but at least my retail copy will work every where I want it to (unless it's on an early model blu-ray player, lol). Region codes aren't much of a problem, especially since you can buy region free players. My experience with legal downloads shows that it is just as problematic as disc media, requiring special programs to strip out the DRM, but you're still left with a low quality file suffering usually from low bitrate. Personally, the only digital copies I like are FLAC's for music and untouched ISO's for my movies, both of which can't be acquired legally to my knowledge, unless you rip them yourself from...disc media. Also, where can you DL 720p/5.1 movies legally? I have long since given up on legal downloads, so I may have missed out on this... I do know you can pirate such files, even up to 1080p, but I doubt that's the DD Microsoft and Seagate want. In conclusion, I don't think neither disc media or DD are perfect (or even close), and I may have come off a bit biased in my original post (and maybe I am due to bad experiences with legal downloads), but for now discs are definitely my preference for more reasons than I have listed on this site.
they way i see it DD may not become STANDARD in the next 5 years, but blu ray wont either. do you guys know the difference between vcr to dvd vr dvd to blu ray. when dvd's first appeared, you saw a noticeable difference in the picture quality, it was smaller than a vcr tape, you DIDNT have to REWIND it like a vcr tape. an you DIDNT have to buy anything else to take advantage of it. but with blu ray or HD DVD they picture quality is great but its not a big of jump as it was from vcr to dvd, plus now you got to BUY an HD tv to take ADVANTAGE of the format, an to get the full hd 1080p experience you must buy an even more expensive tv an alot of people cant afford to do that yet. dvd with still be the standard for many more years, an who know DD just may become STANDARD before blu ray. blu ray is another OPTION like DD, but its not the standard format yet. an dont forget companies save alot of money with DD because theres no shipping,printing, broken street dates an middle men with DD so its ALL profit, an what company doesnt want profits!!
but everyone will be buying flat screens anyway.
"and dont forget companies save alot of money with DD"
They wont be making any money because everyone will just illegally download.
The world is moving to HD. Slowly but surely the public will be completely HD.
Then people will be like...whats this HI DEF dvd buzz goin round.
It will happen.
And they wont be like... okay i get a Digital online account i dowload the movie from some interent thing (dwlds just ran out) i put it sumwhere how do put it on my tv i think pay for it cant watch it once i own it but i dont? if i take it to my friends house i have too ummmmmmm Its hi def but it isnt its 720 Pipo 1080 compressed P and my hard drive just crashed and.... where's my blu ray cd.
yea...the future is DD...but the future is still 10 to 15 years away, more then enough for a new format...and there are so many reasons why (i dont wanna list them) DD wont make it mainstream anytime soon for movies or games, etc.
i use Western Digital HDD XD up yours seagate!
I think with the way HDD technology is going, it seems like TV's in the future will have built-in HDD's and Ethernet connections. I mean as much as some cannot see the Future, "it is right upon us" since Broadband Connections are getting better and if you read this article you'll see that once you have over 20 million + people that are "Capable" you now have a "Market" which will only grow and everyone will want a piece of the Pie. http://www.toptechnews.com/... Good article for non-believers of where we are headed.
with the size of HDD's and internet connections speeding up. bluray or HDDVD winning is a small short term victory.
I mean DD already killed CD's, all the people saying DD won't take out discs, it's already starting. movies are not far off.
I'd be willing to bet that the number of movies downloaded(legal and not legal) and the number of movies ordered through on demand services already outpaces the number of high def discs being sold, and is likely close to the number of DVD's being sold too.
I know people will say that torrents/file sharing don't count, but let's not forget that's how mp3's started (napster anyone?) but now mp3's are a profitable business, movies are going the same route, and I think those saying it's at least 10 years away, are way off.
cheers, gotta go check on some torrents now:)
I would just like to point out that DD did not "kill" CD's whatsoever. To imply such a thing would be saying that people no longer go and purchase CD's at all.
As a matter of fact I just went and purchased a Killswitch Engage CD (awesome) and didn't regret having to leave my house or anything. I kind of find actually going to some consumer outlet easier and more accessible than being tethered to my computer screen having to click, click, click, click, and hope to GOD that my music purchase went through and only went through once.
Not to mention....what if I wanted to listen to that music I purchased online in my vehicle? Not everyone has an ipod dock or Mp3 player in their car to stream so I'd have to burn a CD and wait for that to happen or even if I wanted to transfer it to my ipod I have to wait wait wait.
All that unnecessary nonsense really. It is REALLY much easier to just get in my car, drive to the store, pick up my CD, hand the guy a 20, get my change, get in car, pop CD in to player, listen and enjoy.
As I mentioned in a post below....regardless of how accessible DD is the physical disc media will still flourish because it is ALWAYS going to be there. There are people, like myself, who feel that having your own physical copy is much better and easier than having to download, download, download just to have a suitable music collection.
hmv is giving up on CD's just because?
music world is going out of business is a coincidence?
sam's in toronto(a music store that's been open for over 50 yrs) is closing it's doors for the fun of it.
CD=vinyl now, let them die.
and it's about 50-80$ for an adapter to let your mp3/cell phone play through your car, get one.
Haha! There you go, it's basically taboo on n4g to talk about p2p, but we can't deny it exists. C'mon, if you are a scrooge and would like to save 20 - 29.95USD on a br/hddvd title, or 5 - 19.95USD on a dvd or or a a 1 - 13USD on a cd you could easily DL it. How? Ask Boink @ just above me
I'll give him the benefit of being correct that as the years roll on that people will eventually buy/rent more and more movies through digital download. However, I do not believe that the future will consist of families gathering around the 24" monitors of their respective PC/Apple systems.
I always felt that it was better to sit down with everyone and pop in a DVD (or in the coming years an HD media disc) and watch the movie together as a family or couple in front of the family TV in the family room.
Sure, if you have your 42" plasma hooked to your PC (which, might I point out is OVERKILL) then, yeah, take advantage of the digital download. Also, while I will say that certain cable services like OnDemand are nice and convenient when you don't want to run to the video store I just don't see that as being a viable solution considering they do not keep any sort of archived library nor do they let you keep the movies. Plus, they only last for 24 hours and what if you wanted to watch the film again the next day with someone else?
Anyways, I guess the thing I'm driving at is that no matter what person spins this however the physical optical disc will always have advantages over the digital download and ondemand services.
I, personally, prefer the luxery of owning my own physical copy of a film rather than relying on digital data (which can be lost or corrupted) or my cable services to provide me with my list of movies.
He simply says that because, duh, it's his business.
MP3 is 3MB, HD movie is 30GB! I would say DD will be mainstream after 20 years! what about that?
mmmm... I see... you undermind this guy's comments because his company makes hard drives yet you take Sony world when they make Blu-ray.
LOL... you speak of HD players adoption as if the whole world will ever adopt it, "uhh.. no because not everyone have broadband... uhhh I can imagine one of these starved african with a piece of bread on his hands and without broadband... inserting a blu-ray disc on a blu-ray player and watching movies on his 52' HD TV.
Funny but most countries you speak of the majority are lucky if they have a TV (Black and While), old color TV let alone an HD TV.... more people in the world have broadband than an HD TV.
Broadband internet is becoming a must have unlike HD TV which is just a nice thing to have.
I find it funny though too that one of the technologies implemented on these HD Drives is digital distribution of certain features... these players come enable with network cards and can connect online.
"10 to 15 years away" lol.... do your research and learn what kind of internet, memory, bandwidth, hard drives we had 1993... 15 years ago... we went from 14K modems to iternet connections of more than 10MB.... Internet speed is doubling every year... many predict that within 2-3 years people will be able to have up to 100MB... most companies already upgraded their network to fiver optics... yet... many of you expect things to stop for 15 years... yeah.. sure.. that make sense.
not sure if you were aware that there are more companies involved in the BluRay technology, there are companies like Samsung, LG, Sharp, so stop saying people love Bluray because of Sony. HD technology is more affordable for other countries to afford instead of installing faster internet conections. Its because some people in the country can afford HDTV but some of the internet companies cant afford to update to the latest internet technology.