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Sony: “New IP is the lifeblood of the industry”

Sony’s Fergal Gara has been explaining why Sony continues to release brand new IP like Last of Us and Beyond: Two Souls well into the lifespan of the PlayStation 3 instead of saving them for a new console.

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DaThreats1843d ago

I <3 New I.P.'s
So does SONY
So It makes me <3 SONY

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shutUpAndTakeMyMoney1843d ago (Edited 1843d ago )

Me to! But why is 97% of sony AAA games third person adventures. Different flavors one category.

Uncharted 1,2,3. = third person
God of War 3, God of War:Ascension = third person
Dark Souls = third person
Infamous 1,2 = third person
Starhawk = third person
Heavy Rain = third person
Sly ciooper = third person
Last Gaudian = third person
The Last of Us = third person
Beyond = third person
FFVersus = third person

I am sure there is more.

This is a lot variety of third person games.

Gave a lil constructive critism to sony sorry guys.

They are making shooter of the year on pc! But not on ps3. maybe ps4 though.

Army_of_Darkness1843d ago (Edited 1843d ago )

New Ip's call for new character and what better way to showcase a new character than to place him/her in a 3rd person view where the player constantly see's That character in action. I would think it's a very smart way to keep a new video game character imbedded in your head;-)

rezzah1843d ago

It is possible that you will find an answer when you look at all the physical games made this gen . Compare them at their very core; FPS, TPS, RPG, Racing, Fighting, etc.

Then look at the percentage of games made for each.

It might explain why there are 97%, as you claimed, of TPS exclusives.

DigitalAnalog1843d ago (Edited 1843d ago )

Well what else can you expect? Games are either 3rd person or 1st person. Any game other than a first person game is a 3rd person game. Katamari is a 3rd person game, Broken sword is a 3rd person game.

What exactly are you trying to pull here? That statement is "beyond scraping the bottom of the barrel."

Give me ONE game that isn't a 3rd person or a 1st person game.

xursz1843d ago

Third Person > First Person
(IMO)

I honestly prefer the experience in third-person games a lot more. Probably because the Player-Character connection feels much more genuin (again, IMO)

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OldSnakePS31843d ago

3rd person is by far the best view for any game IMO

MySwordIsHeavenly1843d ago

Shooter of the year?

You mean Borderlands 2? That's on PS3. Not sure what you mean.

Shikoro1843d ago

Wait, what? Are you seriously complaining about the camera type in Sony's games? W.H.A.T.T.H.E.F.U.*.K?

You trolls and fanboys have fallen so low that I don't even pity you anymore. Just stop breathing in the same air that I'm breathing, OK? :(

GTRrocker6661843d ago

Killzone and resistance games have been great

cannon88001843d ago (Edited 1843d ago )

@ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney

As soon as I read "But" in the start of your second sentence, I already knew you were going to get a lot of disagrees. lol

xXBlondieVanHarlowXx1843d ago

Dude the camera??? For realz?

Trolls at they're finest :/ If there was a point to your "constructive critism" i totally missed it.

ALLWRONG1843d ago

Funny most of the games posted are a sequel or has a sequel coming. The only new IP is The Last of Us.

CDzNutts1843d ago

97% of PS3 games are third person.
97% of 360 games are first person.

I'll go with the third. Seeing my character in all his/her glory immerses me way more than feeling like a moving car with hands.

avengers19781843d ago

your talking about RPGs, shooters, action adventure, and platformers... they are different types of games with the same view 3rd person...
No resistance or Killzone on your list though.

miyamoto1843d ago

dude

Super Mario
Mega Man
Metroid
Zelda
Sonic the Hedgehog
Final Fantasy
Chrono Trigger
Popeye
Baseball
Tennis
Wii sports
Tetris
are all in third person

what's your question?

Zefros1843d ago

Well you got killzone, but i think that it's better this way because we have so many fps games on the market allready ( even if it's multiplat). Too bad resistance ended.

fuzzybacon261842d ago

I agree with you. If you remember they way that Xbox 360 shot off the selves was very little first party IP and stealing alot of Sony's IPs.

***PS Dark Souls is multi platform, you are thinking of Demon Souls.***

cannon88001842d ago

@xXBlondieVanHarlowXx

It's spelled Canon, not cannon. So the answer is no. I clearly wasn't trolling

@shutupandtakemymoney

But I'm not going to write an entire essay to explain myself, because I don't really care.

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nukeitall1843d ago

I don't understand why people clamor for "new ip"?

For me, it doesn't need to be a new ip for me to enjoy. In fact, many of the games I want to play are really really old IPs often times with a reboot.

It has never been about IPs, but about games I enjoy playing!

FFXI1011843d ago

If they don't release the "new ip" How would you get an "old ip" ??

The games you are playing now were once "new ip" you do know that right?

nukeitall1843d ago (Edited 1843d ago )

@FFXI101:

My point is there are plenty of IPs and there is no reason to constantly chant "new ip, new ip, new ip..." all the time. I don't play game because it is a new ip, nor do I purposely look for them.

I just look for games that look interesting and something I'm likely to enjoy.

I would imagine, people would clamor for more quality games or different experiences instead of "new ip". New ips often times can have pretty stale mechanics!

I would take a new experience (or a majorly improved one) old IP over a new ip, but potentially crappy game any day!

Outside_ofthe_Box1843d ago (Edited 1843d ago )

***"I would imagine, people would clamor for more quality games or different experiences instead of "new ip". New ips often times can have pretty stale mechanics!"***

Is it not possible for a new IP to be of quality or provide a different experience? That is actually why people ask for new IPs.

Saying you want more quality games goes without saying. There is no reason to state the obvious. Does one have to literally state " I want a new IP of great quality" in order for you to know that they want a game of quality?

That is "why people clamor for "new ip." They want a game of quality with a refreshing different experience.

Just as a new IP can potentially be a crappy game so can the next iteration for an old IP, but of course you don't acknowledge that.

nukeitall1843d ago (Edited 1843d ago )

@Outside_ofthe_Box:

"Just as a new IP can potentially be a crappy game so can the next iteration for an old IP"

Isn't it obvious!? Why would I need to explicitly mention that, especially since that isn't the topic of discussion.

The point is new ip doesn't necessarily give you that "new refreshing experience" anymore than an existing franchise so why get hung up on new ip instead of "new refreshing experiences".

Why not say "I want new refreshing game experiences" instead of inaccurately saying "I want new ips"!

Personally, I just play whatever I feel like, old, new, stale and whatever as long as I enjoy it. That is why I play games like Kinect Sports, Wii Sports, Mario Party, CoD, Halo, Gears of War, Mass Effect, StarCraft, South Park: Tower Defense, Ninja Gaiden, Splinter Cell: Conviction and so on.

"but of course you don't acknowledge that."

What is that supposed to mean?

Outside_ofthe_Box1843d ago

***"The point is new ip doesn't necessarily give you that "new refreshing experience" anymore than an existing franchise so why get hung up on new ip instead of "new refreshing experiences".

Why not say "I want new refreshing game experiences" instead of inaccurately saying "I want new ips"!"***

Because that is essentially saying the same thing! Isn't it obvious!? That is my point!

Why would someone want a new IP that ISN'T a different experience from game that ALREADY exists hmmm? Why would someone want a new IP that has a similar experience to an existing one? It will only lead to people calling it a carbon copy therefore not buying it anyway!

Everyone plays what they enjoy at the end of the day. Just because people want something new doesn't mean they don't like the old stuff and vice versa!

BitbyDeath1843d ago

You know your getting old when you no longer like the new stuff. :-p

thedisagreefairy1843d ago

im guessing u pretty much play nintendo games. sorry but i had to say it.

Ben_Grimm1843d ago

Its not just about having new IP's. Its about having new IP's of interest.

Wii has a gang of new IP's and a gang of them I could care less about.

I look for the IP's that appeal to me rather it be new or old.

Hicken1843d ago

THIS GUY(nukeitall) has more bubbles than me? Someone PLEASE explain what sense that makes.

Here we have a dude who is essentially saying that he just wants to play the same old crap over and over again, and he's saying it solely for the purpose of trying to discredit Sony's dedication to new IPs. Will he lose bubbles? Doubt it.

If I'm on topic with something RELEVANT to say, but I happen to be against the 360 crowd, watch me get hit with trolling. And since guys like LevelHead have it out for me, they'll rally up and have me branded for trolling even here, in a Sony-related article.

You can't argue that new IPs are bad. YOU. CAN'T. ANY TIME someone does, they should automatically be marked for trolling. NO REAL GAMER could possibly think like that. Hell, even fanboys aren't like that; they at least argue about whose new IPs are better.

Am I the only one who sees crap like this and wonders what's wrong with this site?

BrutallyBlunt1843d ago

"If I'm on topic with something RELEVANT to say, but I happen to be against the 360 crowd, watch me get hit with trolling. And since guys like LevelHead have it out for me, they'll rally up and have me branded for trolling even here, in a Sony-related article. "

That's the thing, you can't stay on topic and stay relevant to the discussion because you're far more concerned about the battle agianst the XBOX360 and its fans.

Now tell me, why would you be hit with trolling if you respond to the topic and discuss the topic? Oh that's right, you're far more interested in battling against XBOTs.

If you believe new IP's can be released at any time then make the argument. Why keep wasting time arguing with people whom you know won't give you the results your looking for?

I myself think new IP's are great anytime. I think it's awesome The Last of Us is coming to the PS3. Let's just hope it's not delayed until the PS4 ships.

Be happy Sony supports new IP's even now like Beyond. Instead you get heartbroken and upset if people don't agree with you. The world does not revolve around you or your thinking but you can lead by your own example. Talk about the topic instead of embedding yourself with all this fluff.

Is it possible to enjoy what you want without the cost of downplaying the compatition and their fans? Doesn't seem like it.

If they are trolling mark it and move on. Don't act worse and then whine about it.

Ben_Grimm1843d ago

"THIS GUY(nukeitall) has more bubbles than me? Someone PLEASE explain what sense that makes."

Because he's not TROLLING! He is stating his opinion on why he doesn't care for new IP's for him to enjoy games.

You seem to not even fathom why you always get your bubbles snatched from you. You worked your way up from one before only to get right back down to one. Maybe you should ask yourself why and stop blaming the "360 crowd".

"If I'm on topic with something RELEVANT to say"

It's rare that you have anything relevant or on topic to say Hicken stop fooling yourself.

"You can't argue that new IPs are bad. YOU. CAN'T. ANY TIME"

He's not argueing that new IP's are bad, READING Hicken, PLEASE READ! You have to not only read but you have to UNDERSTAND. He's saying just because an IP is new doesn't automatically make it a good game.

How many IP's have we had that is just a copy of a previous experience?

Again all you see is an attack on your beloved Sony and you instantly start to bark.

nukeitall1842d ago

@Outside_ofthe_Box

"Because that is essentially saying the same thing! Isn't it obvious!? That is my point!"

No! One is simply saying I want "new ips" and that is it! It doesn't necessarily say new experience. The other explicitly states new refreshing experiences and doesn't exclude existing franchises. It is a far broader and more accurate statement!

It is obviously not the same, even if that is what you (or anyone else) intended.

"Why would someone want a new IP that ISN'T a different experience from game that ALREADY exists hmmm? Why would someone want a new IP that has a similar experience to an existing one?"

Because the story line or setting is different? For instance, WW2 doesn't appeal to me at all so CoD3 was a none starter for me, but CoD4:MW was a huge hit and so has any of the MW series been since. CoD:Black Ops 2 looks to be a good game too.

I would have loved to get a Bioshock in a different more modern setting than a 50s feel. It would have obviously most likely have been a new ip.

"Everyone plays what they enjoy at the end of the day. Just because people want something new doesn't mean they don't like the old stuff and vice versa!"

I'm not claiming that, but it just seems wrong to clamor for new ip when I get the impression they are really asking for something else like a new experience. Then ask for that specifically, instead of going in a roundabout way of saying it and assuming people will get it!

Maybe that is why we get a lot of new copycat IPs!

@Hicken:

"Here we have a dude who is essentially saying that he just wants to play the same old crap over and over again, and he's saying it solely for the purpose of trying to discredit Sony's dedication to new IPs. Will he lose bubbles? Doubt it."

I haven't said a word about PS3, nor did I discredit new IPs. Please show me exactly where I did that. I simply posted my opinion that new ip seems to be the incorrect term to use for what is essentially asking for something new.

"You can't argue that new IPs are bad. YOU. CAN'T. ANY TIME someone does, they should automatically be marked for trolling. NO REAL GAMER could possibly think like that. "

Have I said new IPs are bad? However, new ips aren't necessarily good either.

Also, there is nothing wrong with playing existing franchises. Gazillion people gladly do that every year and outnumbers the people screaming new ip all the time.

"Am I the only one who sees crap like this and wonders what's wrong with this site?"

What is wrong with this site is people like you who sit on one side of the fence and only see the other side as wrong never to reflect on the side on is on.

I suggest you learn to sit in the middle.

Outside_ofthe_Box1842d ago (Edited 1842d ago )

***"It doesn't necessarily say new experience. The other explicitly states new refreshing experiences and doesn't exclude existing franchises. It is a far broader and more accurate statement!'***

No, no, no, NO! "New IP" in itself doesn't necessarily mean a new experience, but when people ask for it, obviously they want something NEW. Just like "new IP" in itself doesn't necessarily mean a quality game, but when people ask for it, obviously they want something of quality.

Of course if Sony, MS, Nintendo, EA or Activision where to come out and say "we are about to announce a new IP" that doesn't mean the game will be good or if the game will be a new experience. BUT if I were to come out and say "I want a new IP" obviously I want something NEW and of quality or else I'll say otherwise explicitly and specifically.

For example, you just stated that you want a game similar to bioshock, but in a more modern setting. Well, saying you want a "new IP" isn't enough for anyone to know that you want that type of game. It wouldn't be crazy for a publisher or your fellow gamers to assume that you want a game that provides a refreshing experience. Whereas assuming the DaThreats(the first poster in this article) would want a bioshock game in a modern setting just because he said he likes "new IPs" is an off base assumption.

Another example would be PlayStation All-Stars: Battle Royale. PlayStation fans literally stated that they want a PlayStation brawler similar to Super Smash Brothers. They didn't say "we want a new IP" for Sony to somehow magically know that.

If people want a new IP that has a similar experience to an already existing IP they will say that specifically. Otherwise it isn't idiotic to assume that they want a new refreshing game of quality. I hope see what I'm getting at!