"OAKLEY (CBS13) – An online fight led to an in-person attack for a young man in Oakley, and he ended up with nearly two dozen stab wounds.
This stabbing all started with a conversation on an Xbox Live headset that allegedly set a 17-year-old off, not with a joystick, but with a real knife and gun.", writes CBS Sacramento.
Besides, going to the gym isn't going to help him lose weight. He has to diet first in order to lose it properly, then exercise to keep it off.
Only a very small percentage of people who manage to lose weight through diet and exercise manage to keep it off, and even then, it's only between 5 and 15 lbs. The almost total majority just put it back on. Remember Jared from the Subway commercials? Yep, even he is fat again. It is practically miraculous when someone does manage to lose 4-5 st. and keep it off permanently, and there are so few of them in this world that they are absolute exceptions.
I've never had a weight problem, and I thought like you for a long time. But there's more to it than "put down the fork, fatty." A little understanding goes a long way.
We dodged a bullet there guys... lol
I dropped about 44 pounds of weight in about 4 months. That happened almost 2 years ago. My hunger for food was immense due to my bodybuilding excersizes. Once I hit 286 pounds I though that no matter how well everything goes in the gym I NEED to drop some of this excess fatt off.
Now I'm 242 pounds and I've been maintaining that body weight for some time. My goal is to replace my remaining fat with muscle and so far it's been a success. Nowadays I don't need to calculate anything. I LEARNED how to eat healthy while I dropped the weight so maintaining it is not a problem.
I was one of those "diet has nothing to do with losing weight" untill I tried it. I calculated everything I ate and the fat (and some muscle too) came off flying. It's even too easy to just drop budyweight. When you are a big guy it will come off pretty much just like that. I bet this guy could drop some 60 pounds of pure bodyfatt in a year if only he would want to do it. there isn't a pill in the world that will help you with something like this. All you need to do is calculate some (every single) calories and that's that.
Now maintaining your weight lifting results AND losing weight is a totally different thing. That takes some devotion and much calculation. I just recently got the same record in bench press that I got BEFORE losing the bodyweight. It took me 1.5 years to build up the muscle again but here we are. The feeling of accomplishment is big with this one for me :)
I recommend bodybuilding to everyone. Keeps you healthy and fit and gives you so much in the process.
Well said. I agree with a lot of what you have said, and agree, the correct diet is 80% of the work.
However, the difficulty of losing weight or the fact that he may have been fat most of his life doesn't really excuse his gluttony in my opinion. Exercise and dieting are for his benefit. He might just be really lazy and sitting home playing games all day has resulted in him being so overweight.
I agree and understand that there's more to it than the 'put down the fork' argument but there are only so many excuses he can make. Prima facie, he is obese and needs to sort himself out. Not for my benefit or anyone else's but for him.
I know how hard it is to lose weight. I have never really been fat per se, but I had a bit of a tummy. Now I'm pretty much sporting a six pack as a result of trying various many workouts/diet regimes.
I go to the gym almost every day and do weight lifting and boxing and looking back, I had no excuse other than being lazy. I always admitted that and never made an excuse for it. Being understanding is one thing, but being frank is another. I think we can all agree that the chap needs to do something about his weight/health.
Maybe, if he had been in better shape, he might have been better able to defend himself? (An assumption of course)
Every action has an equal and oposite reaction.
I guess that road rage is caused by cars...
@ light
in January i weighed 380, and right now i weigh 320. i did it eating and exercising. my goal is to get to 250 by the middle of next year, and I'll tell you one thing i don't plan on gaining any of that weight back. plus i have people around me who keep encouraging me to keep it up.
this is the longest I've and continued to workout, and the most weight I've lost, and I've tried to lose weight plenty of times. im proud of myself for what I've accomplished so far.
Congratz! Great progress! That should be more than enough of an encouragement for you.
It's all about learning how to eat. My body weight is at 242 now and I keep it at that by eating 3000 calories per day in about 6 even meals. I need lots of protein so that's the tricky part. I eat atleast 250 grams of protein per day. That's about 40 grams per meal as an average.
As for exersize I usually go for a ~25 minute jog (4 kilometers) before breakfast 3 times a week. I also have my own program for my bodybuilding where I need to go to the gym 3 times a week. It takes about 2 hours to complete a workout with warmup included.
I've found out that this is just about as good as it gets for my body.
My performance level is on an all round upwards trend with every single musclegroup and my bodyweight remains the same and I don't need to starve at all.
Bodybuilding is a way of life and it consists of 3 evenly important things. Diet, sleep and training. Eat properly, sleep 7-8 hours a day and train with enough intensity. If I'm not sore for a week I'm not doing it right :)
No...what...The world was this f'd up thousands years ago.
It's just so unusual in your OWN life that it seems uncommon. It's actually quite common that people act like this. We just don't hear it that often or experience it ourselves.
the guy had a knife and gun....really, you would try and fight him off? and you think him being out of shape made any difference?
for your sake i hope no one points a gun at you
If I'm gonna be stabbed and shot at, anyway, yup .. I'm gonna fight regardless?
The 17-year-old who did the attack was a friend of the family, not a random person. It says it in the video. If the victim was dumb enough to give his address out to someone on Xbox Live then he deserved to be attacked.
As far as XBL ignorance goes, I've met my fair share of idiots, but thankfully most of my encounters have been pleasant. That's why I generally host lobbies, so when they come into my game I control the conversation/argument, cause all it takes is a swift kick and they're out of there.
the attacker should be put in jail..
for me it doesn't matter whether its a random person, or a close friend you always have to watch yourself online because you never know how people are going to react to smack talk.
makes fun of him
me: you want to do this man come over
friend: ok i got you.
news later: all because of this android phone. phone violence.
videogames did nothing...
Don't dis the hanger, give abortion a chance.
You wouldn't do sh*t unless you want to risk dying. And most people don't.
The first time was when I was going through military training and someone got a little too full of vitriol and shot herself.
I was on my first date with a girl and we were talking and walking in a park at night and in the distance a couple of guys were looking in our direction and kept on talking. I recognized the clicking sound of a gun's revolver moving around and so I escorted us both out. I remember putting myself between her and the guys thinking that these were the last moments in my life. After that, I dated her for years. I guess that experience told me I at least liked her to do that, seeing she wasn't even aware what was going on until afterwards.
Two cops pulled guns on me when I was sitting at the bus stop because they thought I robbed a store across the street (Really? Rob a bank and sit across the street?).
Let's see; A drunk redneck with a .44 magnum tucked sloppily away under his wifebeater, several instances in clubs which made me a couch potato, and finding a kindly old man's assault weapon at the WRONG time gave me the experience that when you see a gun, use your head if you can. Use your heart if you must.
Act like a tough guy before getting killed?
Rush the person with the gun before getting killed?
Or will you do the sensible thing and try and avoid getting shot, so you can live on to make more dumb online comments like this?
This won't stop me from trash talking. I love it
Still, this really had nothing to do with the game, as he said, it was a continued fight that just finally hit it's boiling point... But the news will ignore that fact...
Glad he is OK.
Hahaha I just read your piece right after I wrote mine and saw we basically wrote the exact same thing. Glad to know not everyone is oblivious.
Not sure what they were arguing about or how long it has been going on but its a shame that the 17 year old got so pissed that he decided to try and scare/kill someone for it.
I understand how young people like to protect the reputation and doesn't like it when they get shamed, but trying to kill someone especially someone you know quite well is a little over the top.
Just proves that society and people acting like gangsters need to change. It is not cool to be a gangster, they end up in jail.
Human decency is for decent humans, some people around the net are so rude, racist, sexist, everything-ist and belligerent that they deserve bad things to happen to them.
A stabbing is extreme and not saying this guy deserved to be stabbed, just maybe fear of consequences would be good on the net.
Next question to ask.... where did the 17yr old get the hand gun?
*this post is not to be taken seriously*
So far most of the comments on this article have ranged from totally inappropriate to absolutely disgusting. And sovietsoldier you are a scumbag.
I used to game online all the time, but now I couldn't care less about online. I play single player games or co-op games with my girlfriend.
As far as the victim goes, glad he's alright!
Just because someone is over-weight doesn't always mean that they can't put down the fork! All kinds of medical conditions cause obesity, for all anyone knows it could be a glandular problem.
Do we blame telephones when people get upset with each and it turns violent?
The bottemline is it was the CONTEXT of the discussion that created violence, not their technology that facilitated it.
Are we going to start restricting communication in the name of safety?
These two already knew each other, surely the technology between them is not to blame.
Stabber: F@$K You
Victim: I Bet you won’t come over house and say that to my face MotherF@$ker!!
Stabber: I’ll Show Him
Watch Video………….
Seriously this is really sad that someone would go to this extreme over something probably stupid. But i guess there are crazy people out there.
<---Glad he's a part of Generation X.