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Submitted by jjdoyle 810d ago | news

Xbox Chat Leads To Violent Attack In Oakley

"OAKLEY (CBS13) – An online fight led to an in-person attack for a young man in Oakley, and he ended up with nearly two dozen stab wounds.

This stabbing all started with a conversation on an Xbox Live headset that allegedly set a 17-year-old off, not with a joystick, but with a real knife and gun.", writes CBS Sacramento. (Xbox 360)

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Hufandpuf  +   810d ago
Wow, he really tried to kill him
The_Infected  +   810d ago
Shows you what the world is coming to. No matter how mad you get you should never hurt someone violently.
Septic   810d ago | Immature | show
LightofDarkness  +   810d ago
@Septic: If he's been fat most of his life, no amount of disgust and righteous indignation are going to change that. He will probably never lose the weight, science has proven it. They don't think like you and I: they don't get the signal to stop eating when they're full.

Besides, going to the gym isn't going to help him lose weight. He has to diet first in order to lose it properly, then exercise to keep it off.

Only a very small percentage of people who manage to lose weight through diet and exercise manage to keep it off, and even then, it's only between 5 and 15 lbs. The almost total majority just put it back on. Remember Jared from the Subway commercials? Yep, even he is fat again. It is practically miraculous when someone does manage to lose 4-5 st. and keep it off permanently, and there are so few of them in this world that they are absolute exceptions.

I've never had a weight problem, and I thought like you for a long time. But there's more to it than "put down the fork, fatty." A little understanding goes a long way.
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HebrewHammer  +   810d ago
Also, it's a good thing that the kid said the attack had nothing to do with the game, but rather an ongoing feud with this other kid. If he hadn't done that, then media, politicians and child advocacy groups would be coming down so hard on the industry.
We dodged a bullet there guys... lol
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insomnium2  +   810d ago
@light

I dropped about 44 pounds of weight in about 4 months. That happened almost 2 years ago. My hunger for food was immense due to my bodybuilding excersizes. Once I hit 286 pounds I though that no matter how well everything goes in the gym I NEED to drop some of this excess fatt off.

Now I'm 242 pounds and I've been maintaining that body weight for some time. My goal is to replace my remaining fat with muscle and so far it's been a success. Nowadays I don't need to calculate anything. I LEARNED how to eat healthy while I dropped the weight so maintaining it is not a problem.

I was one of those "diet has nothing to do with losing weight" untill I tried it. I calculated everything I ate and the fat (and some muscle too) came off flying. It's even too easy to just drop budyweight. When you are a big guy it will come off pretty much just like that. I bet this guy could drop some 60 pounds of pure bodyfatt in a year if only he would want to do it. there isn't a pill in the world that will help you with something like this. All you need to do is calculate some (every single) calories and that's that.

Now maintaining your weight lifting results AND losing weight is a totally different thing. That takes some devotion and much calculation. I just recently got the same record in bench press that I got BEFORE losing the bodyweight. It took me 1.5 years to build up the muscle again but here we are. The feeling of accomplishment is big with this one for me :)

I recommend bodybuilding to everyone. Keeps you healthy and fit and gives you so much in the process.
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Septic  +   810d ago
@ LightofDarkness

Well said. I agree with a lot of what you have said, and agree, the correct diet is 80% of the work.

However, the difficulty of losing weight or the fact that he may have been fat most of his life doesn't really excuse his gluttony in my opinion. Exercise and dieting are for his benefit. He might just be really lazy and sitting home playing games all day has resulted in him being so overweight.

I agree and understand that there's more to it than the 'put down the fork' argument but there are only so many excuses he can make. Prima facie, he is obese and needs to sort himself out. Not for my benefit or anyone else's but for him.

I know how hard it is to lose weight. I have never really been fat per se, but I had a bit of a tummy. Now I'm pretty much sporting a six pack as a result of trying various many workouts/diet regimes.

I go to the gym almost every day and do weight lifting and boxing and looking back, I had no excuse other than being lazy. I always admitted that and never made an excuse for it. Being understanding is one thing, but being frank is another. I think we can all agree that the chap needs to do something about his weight/health.

Maybe, if he had been in better shape, he might have been better able to defend himself? (An assumption of course)
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Fishy Fingers  +   810d ago | Funny
Nutrition4Gamers.
Ramas  +   810d ago
no matter how stupid you are you should always think what you say and dont talk back to other people, especialy if you are younger or you feel that man on whom you are talking crap or pissing of on purpose could beat you for good.
Every action has an equal and oposite reaction.
pixelsword  +   810d ago
NOTHING to do with the 360.

I guess that road rage is caused by cars...
TBM  +   810d ago
He's lucky he didn't get killed. that's why when i game online i only game with family and friends. it saves me the headache of dealing with nutbags online.

@ light
in January i weighed 380, and right now i weigh 320. i did it eating and exercising. my goal is to get to 250 by the middle of next year, and I'll tell you one thing i don't plan on gaining any of that weight back. plus i have people around me who keep encouraging me to keep it up.

this is the longest I've and continued to workout, and the most weight I've lost, and I've tried to lose weight plenty of times. im proud of myself for what I've accomplished so far.
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insomnium2  +   810d ago
@TBM

Congratz! Great progress! That should be more than enough of an encouragement for you.

It's all about learning how to eat. My body weight is at 242 now and I keep it at that by eating 3000 calories per day in about 6 even meals. I need lots of protein so that's the tricky part. I eat atleast 250 grams of protein per day. That's about 40 grams per meal as an average.

As for exersize I usually go for a ~25 minute jog (4 kilometers) before breakfast 3 times a week. I also have my own program for my bodybuilding where I need to go to the gym 3 times a week. It takes about 2 hours to complete a workout with warmup included.
I've found out that this is just about as good as it gets for my body.

My performance level is on an all round upwards trend with every single musclegroup and my bodyweight remains the same and I don't need to starve at all.

Bodybuilding is a way of life and it consists of 3 evenly important things. Diet, sleep and training. Eat properly, sleep 7-8 hours a day and train with enough intensity. If I'm not sore for a week I'm not doing it right :)
ChickeyCantor  +   810d ago
"Shows you what the world is coming to"

No...what...The world was this f'd up thousands years ago.

It's just so unusual in your OWN life that it seems uncommon. It's actually quite common that people act like this. We just don't hear it that often or experience it ourselves.
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Campy da Camper  +   810d ago
Damn it. People like this give campers a bad name.
KillerBBs  +   810d ago
I'm about to attack that dude with a stick of butter... Yum.
silvacrest  +   810d ago
"Maybe, if he had been in better shape, he might have been better able to defend himself?"
the guy had a knife and gun....really, you would try and fight him off? and you think him being out of shape made any difference?

for your sake i hope no one points a gun at you
KaBaW  +   810d ago
@silvacrest -
If I'm gonna be stabbed and shot at, anyway, yup .. I'm gonna fight regardless?
ABizzel1  +   810d ago
@TBM

The 17-year-old who did the attack was a friend of the family, not a random person. It says it in the video. If the victim was dumb enough to give his address out to someone on Xbox Live then he deserved to be attacked.

As far as XBL ignorance goes, I've met my fair share of idiots, but thankfully most of my encounters have been pleasant. That's why I generally host lobbies, so when they come into my game I control the conversation/argument, cause all it takes is a swift kick and they're out of there.
Awesome_Gamer  +   809d ago
the attacker should be put in jail
the attacker should be put in jail..
TBM  +   809d ago
@abizzel1

for me it doesn't matter whether its a random person, or a close friend you always have to watch yourself online because you never know how people are going to react to smack talk.
HalfNerdHalfAmazing  +   809d ago
@lightofdarkness what him being fat has to do with him getting stab
fatstarr  +   809d ago
wow calls my friend
makes fun of him

me: you want to do this man come over
friend: ok i got you.

news later: all because of this android phone. phone violence.

videogames did nothing...
Bonerboy  +   809d ago
Yeah Marcus, sure shows what the world is coming to...hmmmm...yeah....no...you should never hurt someone violently when you're real mad...no...that's just not right to hurt them violently...no siree...yeah...not when you're mad...hmmm nope.

Don't dis the hanger, give abortion a chance.
jc48573  +   810d ago
i swear to god if someone ever points a gun at me....
LightofDarkness  +   810d ago
You'll freeze in terror? Such statements are merely platitudes until you've been faced in the same situation. The fact is, you don't know what you're going to do in that situation until it happens, but conventional wisdom suggests you will cower and fear for your life. And what, are you going to try to disarm the attacker? I get the feeling you watch to many movies...
JellyJelly  +   810d ago
I've had a gun pointed at me once, by an extremely unstable person. I was somewhat drunk but the adrenaline made me sober in a second. I was in shock the rest of the night.

You wouldn't do sh*t unless you want to risk dying. And most people don't.
pixelsword  +   810d ago
I had guns pointed at me or I was near very volatile situations in several instances in my life and trust me, you never want that, ever.

The first time was when I was going through military training and someone got a little too full of vitriol and shot herself.

I was on my first date with a girl and we were talking and walking in a park at night and in the distance a couple of guys were looking in our direction and kept on talking. I recognized the clicking sound of a gun's revolver moving around and so I escorted us both out. I remember putting myself between her and the guys thinking that these were the last moments in my life. After that, I dated her for years. I guess that experience told me I at least liked her to do that, seeing she wasn't even aware what was going on until afterwards.

Two cops pulled guns on me when I was sitting at the bus stop because they thought I robbed a store across the street (Really? Rob a bank and sit across the street?).

Let's see; A drunk redneck with a .44 magnum tucked sloppily away under his wifebeater, several instances in clubs which made me a couch potato, and finding a kindly old man's assault weapon at the WRONG time gave me the experience that when you see a gun, use your head if you can. Use your heart if you must.
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Sony360  +   810d ago
You'll what, dodge the bullets?

Act like a tough guy before getting killed?

Rush the person with the gun before getting killed?

Or will you do the sensible thing and try and avoid getting shot, so you can live on to make more dumb online comments like this?
WeskerChildReborned  +   809d ago
Lightofdarkness has a point. You'll never really know what you'll do.
Bonerboy  +   809d ago
You'll what tough guy? Oh I know, you'll cry and plead while you shit and piss yourself.
andibandit  +   810d ago
I bet they were playing MW3 at the time.
Mainsqueeze  +   810d ago
What does it matter?
Tonester925  +   810d ago
I live 5 minutes away from Oakley haha

This won't stop me from trash talking. I love it
silvacrest  +   810d ago
prepare for the inevitable knock at the door when some psycho finds your address because he cant let go of a troll comment
KidBroSweets2  +   810d ago
This is more a story of just a horrible "friendship" but since the part where things finally boiled over had to do with online gaming then that's all that anybody will say, as if it started there and like they didn't know each other.
JVIV  +   810d ago
I was wondering why all these cops and news vans were in my neighborhood ,this kid Kevin lives down the street from me ha ha he got f**** shanked by some loser! lol skinny kid too Kevin could have destroyed the kid.
Hufandpuf  +   810d ago
post a pic!
Blastoise  +   810d ago
"Kemp will be OK, but his friendship is likely finished." Lmao! You reckon?
joab777  +   809d ago
It's another misleading headline. It may have happened on Xbox but they knew each other and the guy said it wasn't gaming related. They had a beef that escalated
Psycho_Mantis  +   809d ago
O RLY? o_0
LordMe  +   810d ago
I thought it was one of my friends looking at the picture. I was like "Oh, SHIT!" But it is not...

Still, this really had nothing to do with the game, as he said, it was a continued fight that just finally hit it's boiling point... But the news will ignore that fact...

Glad he is OK.
KidBroSweets2  +   810d ago
@LordMe

Hahaha I just read your piece right after I wrote mine and saw we basically wrote the exact same thing. Glad to know not everyone is oblivious.
NastyLeftHook0   810d ago | Immature | show | Replies(2)
IRetrouk  +   810d ago
How did he miss the shot?!!!, only messin, glad he is ok
hkgamer  +   810d ago
Is gun crime something taht happens alot in Oakley?
Not sure what they were arguing about or how long it has been going on but its a shame that the 17 year old got so pissed that he decided to try and scare/kill someone for it.
I understand how young people like to protect the reputation and doesn't like it when they get shamed, but trying to kill someone especially someone you know quite well is a little over the top.
Just proves that society and people acting like gangsters need to change. It is not cool to be a gangster, they end up in jail.
HSx9  +   810d ago
I'm pretty sure people that decided to join a gang, are not in it to be "cool" but rather to make a lot of money and have protection.
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hkgamer  +   809d ago
not really saying the people that are in gangs, i am talking about kids who think gangsters are cool and are just violent over the smallest things .. just saying that gangsters are glorified and a lot of young teenagers think some aspects are cool.
Tonester925  +   809d ago
Only snobby wanna be rich people live in Oakley.
lyliade  +   810d ago
C'est toujours comme ca aux etats unis plein de tueurs et d'armes.Pendez les hauts et courts lol
dragonyght  +   810d ago
Violence exits everywhere. There no Utopia on this earth
MidnytRain  +   810d ago
Was there a reason for the French?
ElementX  +   810d ago
So the perp knew where the guy lived and he was invited to come over and "do this right now?" SMH
HammadTheBeast  +   810d ago
The mic and xbox live told him where rhe victim lived. Its the vidyagamez I tell ya. They must be banned forever!!!
ElementX  +   810d ago
The article stated that the perp was a family friend
aiBreeze   810d ago | Bad language | show
MrChow666  +   810d ago
uughhhh his tits! :S what a disgusting sight, sry but its true, I'm glad he is ok and all but even if a knife attack didnt kill him his bad habits will
mochachino  +   810d ago
Not usually in the habit of blaming the victim but there are some people online that I feel deserve to get beat up. People say a lot of things online that they wouldn't in real life because they'd be liable to get punched, maybe this guy probably got his.

Human decency is for decent humans, some people around the net are so rude, racist, sexist, everything-ist and belligerent that they deserve bad things to happen to them.

A stabbing is extreme and not saying this guy deserved to be stabbed, just maybe fear of consequences would be good on the net.
HammadTheBeast  +   810d ago
I feel like kicking the kids talking smack in the throat. But then I just settle for teabags.
Urbz7870  +   810d ago
Is fighting sum loser online really worth it?
silvacrest  +   810d ago
some people just cant let shit go
leogets   810d ago | Trolling | show
Dlacy13g  +   810d ago
Crazy story... luckily it really had nothing to do with gaming. That same conversation could easily have happened over a phone. Glad to see the victim is going to be ok, and the punk that stabbed him will be going away for a long ass time.

Next question to ask.... where did the 17yr old get the hand gun?
PersonMan  +   810d ago
I told you PSN was better!

*this post is not to be taken seriously*
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danieldeath  +   810d ago
Them Tits ..
blackmamba707  +   810d ago
moobozaurus rex
LostDjinn  +   810d ago
Way to twist things up for hits there cbs.
ninjagoat  +   810d ago
Dude had battle armour on :).
sovietsoldier  +   810d ago
good, i wish more people would do this so less people would think be for opening their mouths and saying whatever they like. punk ass bitches hiding behind their computer and consoles acting tough till someone come knocking and then it's "oh god don't kill me!!!". its all fun and games till someone gets hurt.
killerhog  +   810d ago
You guys really like to twist things around, the real cowards are the ones who have to use weapons. Simple as that. Im sure Kemp called him out to fist fight yet the 17-year-old brought weapons. If I or someone else talks shit fight me with your fist if you bring a gun or knife your a bitch
Getowned  +   810d ago
Yeah I agree he brought a gun and a knife to a fist fight like a little b!tch. Kids are pussys now a days -_-
kostchtchie_  +   810d ago
well said mate, if this happen more often people would rethink how they conduct themselves over the net, being an asshole online could just get you stabbed or shot, so beware kiddies as next time it could be you
JamesManow  +   810d ago
You're a straght up sociopath. You really think this should happen more often because "punk ass bitches hiding behind their computer and consoles acting tough till someone come knocking and then it's "oh god don't kill me!!!". ". How old are you? 11, 12 ?
So far most of the comments on this article have ranged from totally inappropriate to absolutely disgusting. And sovietsoldier you are a scumbag.
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PersonMan  +   810d ago
Maybe we should just go back to offline single player/split screen days.

I used to game online all the time, but now I couldn't care less about online. I play single player games or co-op games with my girlfriend.
stuna1  +   809d ago
If what he said was the norm N4G would be a ghost town!

As far as the victim goes, glad he's alright!
Just because someone is over-weight doesn't always mean that they can't put down the fork! All kinds of medical conditions cause obesity, for all anyone knows it could be a glandular problem.
sovietsoldier  +   809d ago
@JamesManow you illustrate my point very well, you like many people talking shit and calling names but you will be the first one to start crying when someone bigger and meaner puts you in your place.
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sovietsoldier  +   809d ago
true fist fight vs fist fight is fair but so is gun vs gun, the guy that showed up was just prepared and you cant blame him for that.
StayStatic  +   810d ago
Guess he thinks he is the Big Boss "If I equip a knife and a gun at the same time , I can switch from one to another depending on the situation" , can't remember the quote exactly lol.
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kostchtchie_  +   810d ago
ha ha indeed, he was going CQC on his ass
BattleTorn  +   810d ago
How is this related to video games, or Xbox Live?

Do we blame telephones when people get upset with each and it turns violent?
FantasyStar  +   809d ago
I'm sure once upon a time: we did blame telephones for violent confrontations involving the device. Look at cell phones: we're blaming them right now. Time and place, chap.
BattleTorn  +   809d ago
We blame all sorts of *new* stuff for violence. That doesn't make it any more correct.

The bottemline is it was the CONTEXT of the discussion that created violence, not their technology that facilitated it.

Are we going to start restricting communication in the name of safety?
These two already knew each other, surely the technology between them is not to blame.
007Bond  +   810d ago
LIVIN IN AMERICA!
ShadowKingx  +   810d ago
Victim: You Camping Mother F@%ker!!!

Stabber: F@$K You

Victim: I Bet you won’t come over house and say that to my face MotherF@$ker!!

Stabber: I’ll Show Him

Watch Video………….

Seriously this is really sad that someone would go to this extreme over something probably stupid. But i guess there are crazy people out there.
ifistbrowni  +   809d ago
funny stuff.
Skateboard  +   810d ago
X-box live in a nutshell.
t0mmyb0y  +   809d ago
nuff said
miDnIghtEr20C_SfF  +   810d ago
Nice breast. He gives Anders from Workaholics a run for his money.
t0mmyb0y  +   809d ago
AHHHH the new episode was fucking awesome. I love how they all take turns writing the episodes.
bub16  +   810d ago
it all goes down on xbox live!
t0mmyb0y  +   809d ago
seems like it
ApolloTheBoss  +   810d ago
And this is why I mute my microphone both ways.
HaVoK308  +   810d ago
And there is today's generation. Internet tough guys.

<---Glad he's a part of Generation X.
Shotcalm  +   810d ago
Why is there a topless fat woman in this video?
AgreeFairy  +   810d ago
To get you to click on the article as the site needs hits.
theconsole_kid  +   810d ago
thats too funny
LOL_WUT  +   810d ago
I hope this experience makes him rethink his life not just for the attacker but for both people involved.
HelloHowAreYou  +   810d ago
Fox news is going to flock to this like flies on shit lol.
SnakePlissken  +   810d ago
Dont forget about msnbc too, they are one of the worst offenders!
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