4 Reasons Why Wii U Will Fail

GameXplain: "The Wii may have dominated, in terms of sheer sales, this past generation, and the DS – along with its successor, the 3DS, to a lesser extent – may be the most popular handheld in gaming’s (still short) history, but Nintendo has anything but smooth sailing in front of itself when it launches the maiden voyage of the next generation later this year."

[Eternalb]

I hope it doesn't fail, but I don't think it'll do as well as the Wii

[-Superman-]

Well, if company fails, then next console will be better.
Company never cant learn from mistake, if it wont fail.
I want Nintendo fail next gen, Sony needs more money, beucase they make so many games and care about their fans, while Nintendo cares about money and dosent care about fan!!!

[dark-hollow]

Delusion at it finest.

Sony aren't the holy saints of gaming, all three companies can be greedy mofos.

[ChickeyCantor]

" beucase they make so many games and care about their fans"

I would care for my consumers as well. Let's not forget that they are THE income of my production line.

[ABizzel1]

@Eternalb

I hope it doesn't fail, but I doubt it'll do as well as the Wii. It's going to sell simply because it's Nintendo, but they have so much going against them from the competition as well as within Nintendo I'm having a hard time understanding the need or wanting to buy a Wii U.

I can buy a PS3 or 360 for $199 if not less this holiday vs. a $250 (likely $299) Wii-U. Both consoles have a huge library of games, and offer some advantages over the Wii-U such as established online networks, great 3rd party support, as well as comparable HD experiences, bouns points for PS3 Blu Ray (although the Wii-U is better at HD gaming). Add in PSVita and Smart Glass, and Wii-U isn't looking so new.

Then you have Ouya at $99, which is offering a F2P gaming experience. For casual gamers the Ouya is more than enough for them. The Ouya is also getting so pretty good 3rd party support and with the announcement of Onlive it already has better 3rd party support than the Wii-U, and again it's capable of offering a decent HD gaming experience, with a touch screen controller.

Finally the PS4, Nextbox, or hopefully Playbox 360 is likely launching late 2013, bringing in true Next gen gaming, and when that happens most 3rd party developers are going to move on from the PS3, Xbox 360, and Wii-U camp over to the new console(s).

All the console manufacturers are in a tight spot, but Nintendo and the Wii-U are in an odd place right now. They need to explain why people need a Wii-U for the holidays, and beyond, because currently there's nothing exciting about the Wii-U besides potential HD versions of some Nintendo franchises and Zombie-U. There's very little Wii-U information and the console is launching in less than 4 months.

[ABizzel1]

@dragonairfight

It's ignorant people like you that ruin this site. Let respond to your ignorance in 2 post starting with Ouya.

"the ouya has pretty good third party support? Better than the wii u with onlive?"

If you could read I wrote the Ouya already has better 3rd party support than the Wii-U, thanks to the addition of Onlive which will be there Day 1 for the Ouya.

https://www.onlive.com/game...

To save you from having to check the link, thus wasting even more of your few remaining brain cells, I'll make a list for you.

Ouya with Onlive support means the following games will be there day 1:

Alpha Protocol
Assassin's Creed 2
Assassin's Creed Brotherhood
Assassin's Creed Revelations
Batman Arkham Asylum
Batman Armored Edition
Bioshock
Borderlands
The Darkness 2
Darksiders
Dead Island
Deus Ex: Human Revolution Augmented Edition
Dirt 3
EA Sports
Fear 2
Fear 3
Hitman 2
Hitman Blood Money
Homefront
Just Cause
Just Cause 2
Kane & Lynch 2
L.A. Noire: Complete Edition
Limbo
Mafia 2
Metro 2033
Ninja Blade
Prince of Persia
Red Faction Armageddon
Red Faction Guerilla
Saints Row 2
Saints Row 3
Splinter Cell Conviction
Split Second
Super Street Fighter 4: Arcade Edition
Unreal Tournament 3
Warhammer 40,000
The Witcher Enhanced Edition

And hundreds more. Best of all you can play Unlimited games on Onlive for $9.99 a month.

Now add the games from Android Marketplace. Even excluding all the bad clones of games, and you still have hundreds of games. And even if they only use Android HD games there are still some great games there, as this link shows.

Top 20 Android HD Games
http://www.geeknaut.com/and...

Tegra 3 gaming (The force behind Ouya)
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Dead Trigger (Probably the best game running on Tegra 3)
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Now add F2P and browser based games which are also coming to Ouya.

And it's an open source console.

LMAO, you people who "Pretend to know what you're talking about" are a waste of space / profile on this site. THe only thing going against Ouya is brand recognition.

[ABizzel1]

As far as new console launches.

The Wii-U is launching with a bunch of "core games" that are already on the PS3 and 360, or will be before the console even hit stores. Example, Batman, Assassin's Creed 3, Ninja Gaiden, Darksiders, Tekken, Trine...

The purpose of the Wii-U was to continue the Wii's success, and fulfill the core. I'm a fair believer in giving a product a chance as I said,

"@Eternalb, I hope it doesn't fail, but I doubt it'll do as well as the Wii."

Look at the 3DS during it's launch. Struggled.

Look at PS Vita. Struggling.

People aren't jumping up to buy new consoles anymore. For the simple fact people don't have the money to blow, and they realize consoles are bad investments at launch because you generally have very little to play after you beat the games you want. And if you already have a PS3 or 360, then there's even less incentive to pick up a Wii-U at launch. And even if you don't you can still get many of the Wii-U launch titles on PS3 and 360 for $50 - $150 less and have more to play than a few games if you're looking into buying a new console.

Your name suggest you're a Nintendo Fanboy desperately trying to protect them from all sources they aren't aware of, but you're coming off as an ignorant fanboy. Nintendo is in a tough spot with the Wii-U. Nintendo has done a horrible job demonstrating the console (online?, fuure?, potential?), and there's some stiff competition from Current gen consoles, the Ouya, and soon the next gen consoles from MS and Sony.

And as I said,

"All the console manufacturers are in a tight spot"

Stop being a blind fanboy and come back to reality. And that goes to the 7 others who cowardly disagreed. Next gen is going to be problematic for everyone.

[Puddlejumper75]

Wow that is a big list of really old games. Hmm buy a Wii U for new games or some other device for the games I was playing 6 years ago...

Seems like an easy choice to me. Sad that your post is filled with ignorance and hate and you feel the need to personally attack people for not just bending to your will.

Sony already stated numerous times the PS4 WILL NOT BE A HUGE LEAP over PS3 yet you claim the exact opposite in your post. Now if that is not complete ignorance I really dont have a clue what is.

[ABizzel1]

@puddlejumper

Just like a portion of the Wii-U's launch line-up will be games the are over a year old.

It doesn't matter, because if you were a Wii only owner then you didn't get to play any of those games.

The casual gamer doesn't need more than one console and the Ouya is $99, is nearly comparable to current gen consoles (thanks to Onlive), will have an online service (something Nintendo said they aren't trying to compete with Sony and MS in, so what are they doing?), a touch screen controller (even if it's just for swipe and pinch commands), and hundreds of games Day 1, that they didn't get to play on their Wii.

The Ouya is a convient consoles for the casual and there's really no reason for them to even consider a Wii-U, PS4, or Nextbox, when the Ouya is a viable $99 option FOR CASUAL GAMERS.

And Onlive gets new games every week, not to mention you can move your account onto any computer, laptop, tablet, or even your cell phone and still play (what Sony has been attempting, but still hasn't achieved).

[FinalomegaS]

@ABizzel1 (list of games)

Mighty long list, but you clearly think the brand name of Ouya with Onlive support will do anything against Nintendo and their advertisement?

If you can play core games in HD on a nintendo system and the Nintendo franchises.

They do not need to explain anything, the system is still months away, all development teams can't really say jack. Nothing exciting? I think we should take a hard look at past console launch lineups...

here's the final list of launch games for PlayStation 2:

Armored Core 2 (Agetec, Action)
DOA2: Hardcore (Tecmo, Fighting)
Dynasty Warriors 2 (Koei, Action)
ESPN International Track and Field (Konami, Sports)
ESPN X-Games Snowboarding (Konami, Sports)
Eternal Ring (Agetec, RPG)
Evergrace (Agetec, RPG)
FantaVision (SCEI, Puzzle)
Gun Griffon Blaze (Working Designs, Action)
Kessen (EA, Adventure)
Madden NFL 2001 (EA, Sports)
Midnight Club (Rockstar, Racing)
Moto GP (Namco, Racing)
NHL 2001 (EA, Sports)
Orphen (Activision, RPG)
Q-Ball Billiards Master (Take-Two Interactive, Simulation)
Ready 2 Rumble Boxing: Round 2 (Midway, Sports)
Ridge Racer V (Namco, Racing)
Silent Scope (Konami, Shooter)
Smuggler's Run (Rockstar, Racing-Adventure)
SSX (EA, Sports)
Street Fighter EX3 (Capcom, Fighting)
Summoner (THQ, RPG)
Swing Away (Paradise Golf in Japan) (EA, Sports)
Tekken Tag Tournament (Namco, fighting)
TimeSplitters (Eidos, First-Person Shooter)
Unreal Tournament (Infogrames, First-Person Shooter)
Wild Wild Racing (Interplay, Racing)
X-Squad (EA, Action)

The full list, posted here alphabetically Xbox ( not 360), includes:

Amped 3 (2K Games)
Call of Duty 2 (Activision)
Condemned (Sega)
Dead Or Alive 4 (Tecmo)
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (Bethesda)
Final Fantasy XI (Microsoft)
Full Auto (Sega)
Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter (Ubisoft)
Gun (Activision)
Kameo: Elements of Power (Microsoft)
Madden NFL 06 (EA)
NBA 2K6 (2K Games)
NHL 2K6 (2K Games)
The Outfit (THQ)
Perfect Dark LE (Microsoft)
Project Gotham Racing 3 (Microsoft)
Quake 4 (Activision)
Ridge Racer 6 (Namco)
Saints Row (THQ)
Tony Hawk's American Wasteland (Activision)
Top Spin 2 (2K Games)

Can go and pull the rest out but you see, the launch line ups aren't anything to get excited for as the devs making their 1st gen games.

As for this article, this is non sense as we have a new "why it will fail"... only F'ing thing i can see is why only 4 reason as the other articles have a few. soon it'll be 101 reasons why nintendo will fail, wiiu is crap, nintendo stocks down to 1$...

[Danja]

It won't fail it won't be a big seller like the Wii but it will still do pretty well, the tablet controller won't be a big hit like the Wii mote which is what made the Wii stood out back in the day.

[iamnsuperman]

Which is why I think Nintendo should avoid advertising the tablet controller as its main function. Casual are not stupid and they know this will be an expensive purchase if you want a tablet as it really isn't tablet and very limiting in those features. I think they should advertise the games as its main selling point (mixture of the core and family games) with social features.

[Lyr1c]

I disagreed once I saw "Casuals are not stupid".

[yabhero]

The arguments here are PITIFULLY weak... its so sad that there are so many articles like this. I guess WiiU will fail in the same way the Wii/DS/3DS did...

LOL

[mike1up]

Yea... it is sad, but also quite funny.

This gen, Nintendo committed a crime that "these people" will never forgive them for. Nintendo outsmarted them. The Wii and DS, with inferior hardware, kicked ass this gen. (And) None of these so-called experts ever saw it coming.

Imo too many people have equated bashing Nintendo with having knowledge about the video game industry. Just look at "analyst" Michael Patcher. In any other profession, Patcher would have been fired years ago. You can't even keep a job at McDonald's if you get orders wrong ALL of the time.

[PopRocks359]

People sang the same song about the Wii, DS and 3DS. At this point I'm getting bored of the negativity. Gamers just love to hate things it seems.

[Sono421]

I agree it's seriously just getting boring to read. They keep saying the same repetitive pathetic excuses for why its going to fail. No matter how many times you say it to yourself isn't going to make it true.

[Ben_Grimm]

*whew* I was getting worried, we haven't had a WiiU Doom article in a while on N4G.

I hope WiiU won't fail, I am itching for Nintendo to back to the glory of the SNES days.

[dafegamer]

ok first 3ds, then Vita and now the WiiU. Sorry that I have to do this but WTF is wrong with Critics nowadays

[mamotte]

You forgot Ouya. It's doomed, too.

[darkgod]

well that me be true XD...

[Sono421]

Can you please explain the Ouya a little bit to me? I'm very curious and want one but I don't know enough. Is there a yearly fee? Do I need to have an android phone? Because it seems to good to be true. I pay $140 for a console (That's the version I would get) and then I get to play a bunch of free games?

[theWB27]

The Wii won't fail..neither will the other two. Maybe not Wi success...but that was a spike, can't expect that everytime. I'll be getting one if I can afford...I've sure as hell missed Nintendo games.

[gazgriff2k12]

HD MARIO, MARIO KART, METROID AND ZELDA alone will make the wii u a success sales wise add decent third party support and most of the wii crowed jumping ship it might even outsell ps3 and xbox 360 which it is directly competing with by the time everyone's got an xbox 720 or ps4 nintendo will getting ready to release another console to compete against them FACT!

[DarkHeroZX]

Not necessarily, while those games do sell a ton the only game out of those that sell a ton is the mario games. Zelda does alright 4-5 million for skyward sword was great but you'd thing that out of 90+ million wiis out there it would have sold better. The last Metroid game sold extremely poorly for a first party game. So the only one which might help sales out is Mario. But Mario alone won't get it done, it needs other games to survive. And with mario and pikmin being the only 1st party games at launch its going to be a tough battle as the majority of all the other launch games are already available on the cheaper ps3/360. And don't expect even half current wii owners to just upgrade to the wii. there are 150 million+ ps2s out there but only about 65 million ps3 owners, 150 million DSs sold but only about 20 million 3DSs to date, 70 million psps but only 3 million vitas. Not everyone who purchased the previous console is a a promised sale. I mean what if 2/3 or all wii owners hated the wii and never hope to own another nintendo home console?Then what? That means you only have a potential 30 million life-time sales to look foward to. And that also goes for Sony and MS. The only thing we can do is ignore these articles and just wait to see what happens when the wii u actually launches.

[gazgriff2k12]

agreed but still dont think it will fail neither will 3DS and ps vita they will be successful just not as much as WII and DS

p.s how many of those 150 mill ps2 owners still play it

[DarkHeroZX]

Oh I have no doubt the wii U will do well. But there's always that chance that I could be wrong. We on N4G are only a small voice for all the gamers out there and sometimes we forget that while something might seem like a success to us it may not to the general public. And I know I might seem negative towards Nintendo alot but I've always owned their home consoles. I'll be getting a Wii U within the next year(I usually try to hold out until more colors come out).

And I'm not sure how many ps2 owners still play lol but I do know a few people who still play alot.

[Puddlejumper75]

LOL Zelda does alright at 4-5million... How many PS3 games can you name off that have sales higher than that? Not many in fact some of this gens biggest games didnt even achieve sales like that.

I'm guessing if 4-5 million is just okay than the majority of PS3 exclusives like UNcharted are complete flops in your eyes since they fail to even achieve "alright" sales.

[DarkHeroZX]

@puddlejumper

actually the uncharted series did preety good for a ps3 exclusive. check the sales for each game. they sold on average 4 million a piece expect for the vita verison. GT5 and MGS4 sold really well too at about 5 million+ each and GT5 Prolouge(a demo) sold 4 million lol. GOW 3 had 3-4 million. So about 6 ps3 exclusives sold a respectable amount. The first LBP sold really well too, i think the second one did okay but sold below expectation. I know killzone 2 hit 3 million sales but 3 was low. And Resistance FOM sold about 4-5 million. So ps3 exclusives do pretty good too.

[deletingthis34675334]

It's not going to fail. Stop coming up with stupid shit like this. Nintendogs, Mario, Super Smash Bros., Animal Crossing, Pokemon, Metroid and Zelda are all franchises that sell millions per game. I don't even WANT this system at all, but I assure you it's not going to flop. Nintendo has too large of a community for that to happen.

[slavish]

Didn't the sega dreamcast do the screen on the controller thing?

[beerkeg]

'Didn't the sega dreamcast do the screen on the controller thing? '

Not like the Wii U is doing. It wasn't even close.

[mamotte]

Didn't the atari 2600 do the play a game in your TV thing?

[ThePsychoGamer]

Niintendo has pretty much confirmed that you will be unable to play games you want to play on the WiiU do to region locking, so in my eyes, and a lot of other gamers who expect better things from consoles, the WiiU has already failed, failed gamers.

Break the locks.

[mike1up]

Lmao @ "the WiiU has already failed, failed gamers.".

At long last, we agree on something! You are definitely a "failed gamer" in my eyes.

[ThePsychoGamer]

Sad that blind fanboys like you exist, attacking any one who asks more from Nintendo of criticize them when they do something wrong. I'm not criticize the WiiU cause of some hate for Nintendo, I do it so people like me, and blind fanboys like can enjoy a better system after the WiiU, or if it weren't for fanboys like you undermining this great cause, even make Nintendo change there stance on the WiiU, abd get rid of a restriction that douse almost no good for the industry, and douse a lot harm. I honestly can't see why you want the WiiU to be region locked, to not be able to play the games you want on the WiiU, to just except what publishers say is ok for your region instead of being able to decide that on your own.

Well you can do what you want, but when I win my fight against this practice, you will know who to thank, and don't worry your welcome.

Break the locks

[mike1up]

@ ThePsychoGamer

First, I am member of this site just like you are. The fact that I am a proud fanboy does not prohibit me from having an opinion. As a member, I have the right to respond to whoever the hell I want. So, don't start the sad violin music just yet.

I don't just attack anyone (or everyone for that matter). The only reason that you have been getting my attention recently is because we're old friends. After all, I see you in almost every WiiU post.

Now... as for "undermining this great cause", don't flatter yourself. You have said the same thing, verbatim, about Nintendo "breaking the locks" for awhile now. You are a troll sir, not some Robin Hood type figure. The industry will move along just fine after you are gone, just as it is doing right now.

The only thing that I have to thank you for, is losing a bubble.

Strive to be #1!

[PopRocks359]

@ThePsychoGamer

You're aware that the Vita user accounts are region locked, right? I didn't hear you complaining about that. All you ever complain about is Nintendo POSSIBLY region locking the Wii U. In EVERY SINGLE Wii U article, no less.

Inb4 starfox accuses me of being obsessed again.

[N6]

This is Nintendo's safest console since the SNES, it's guaranteed NOT to fail. Wii U doesn't have to have as gaudy sales #s as Wii, in fact if it finishes with a LTD of 50 mil WW (or half the sales of Wii), it will be a big success. There will not be as great a difference in gfx this gen, since all the consoles will work under the same resolutions... also, its nintendo's first HD system which will automatically renew peoples interest in many of their franchises.

Those who say the Wii U will fail are absolutely clueless, and simply put, wishful thinking nintendo haters. Nintendo is a family friendly console, friendly price, and, not aesthetically an eye sore like the Gamecube was...it blends in with all your electronics with no deep down shame. Its a guaranteed hit, no need to waste your breath or tire your brain fantasizing its failure, its not going to happen.

[eagle21]

Well 3DS is kicking ----- ass up and down the streets of japan. Deja Vu before another ass whooping huh? lol :)

[Ramas]

it wount fail it will be most cheap next gen and after 1.5 years when nextbox and ps4 will be released nintendo will drop price even more on Wii-U witch will result in big sales worldwide and big sales = developers will be interested in it.

[Plagasx]

Nintendo is late to the party that most, if not, all gamers have already been to.

That is why it will fail.

[Ck1x]

They weren't invited to the sub-HD party!
And just know that this is what you guys are bragging about. That both the PS3&360 can render most games below 720p and then upscale them! So when it is pointed out that all WiiU games will either be native 720 or 1080p. You guys don't see how this makes the WiU a much more powerful system and continue about it only joining the current gen of systems...

[wiiulee]

the only place nintendo ever fails is in the mouth of haters, sony and microsoft fanboys and fake videogames experts...videogames really became a name with nintendo..and innovation and great games start with them..and wiiu is a great system with great possibilities and is in the process of being copied by sony and microsoft already....one for sure though nintendo has a great lineup of games for the wiiu launch

[DEATHxTHExKIDx]

It wont fail its gimmicks will push it to the limit.

[Straightupbeastly]

Th wii u is mirroring the vita as far as anticipation and hype goes. It's like no one even knows or cares about wii u. People outside of hardcore fans just don't new consoles right now.

[WeskerChildReborned]

What is up with the unnecesarry Nintendo hate?

[PopRocks359]

Well from what I've seen so far, ignorance, stupidity, immaturity, irrational conclusion jumping...

Take your pick.

[Shnazzyone]

Wow, I remember when they said that the ds would fail, then they said the wii would fail, then they said the 3ds would fail. Maybe this time "they" will be right...

PHHHT! Naw they're idiots.

[FinalomegaS]

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the only reason why the wiiu should fail is because of pricing and support.

if those 2 are not taken care of within the 1st year or so, that will add many nails to the coffin.

Besides that, it should do fine...