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Submitted by jjdoyle 292d ago | opinion piece

Pachter: "Sometimes, I add two and two and get seven..."

"After a few email exchanges with him, and pointing out what I thought was one obvious flaw in his opinion on this subject, Mr. Pachter replied, "Sometimes, I add two and two and get seven, but I still add two and two."

What was the context of this quote, and what flaw did I see in Michael Pachter's original statement? More importantly, did Mr. Pachter explain his statement after I mentioned why his original opinion made no sense, in a way that made sense? Brew yourself some coffee, and take a look at one partial email exchange with him Michael Pachter below, as well as a visual aid I hope can help with Mr. Pachter's bad math!", writes CoffeeWithGames. (Industry, Michael Pachter, Wii, Wii U)

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PopRocks359  +   293d ago
Technically the quote is out of context. He's basically saying that he takes things that he sees in the industry, makes an educated guess and winds up being totally wrong despite thinking he's on the dime.
JellyJelly  +   292d ago
And someone actually pays him to do it lol.
Kran  +   292d ago
If it paid for your home, would you go around doing it? :P
irepbtown  +   292d ago
No, he said 2+2=7

Nothing out of context there. He may add some correct numbers, but then includes heaps of poo. Hence he carries on to say 'but I still add two and two'.
Ares84HU  +   292d ago
It's amazing isn't it? The guys is almost always wrong and his "educated guesses" are really terrible. If anyone is even a little into video gaming can see what a load of BS he talks sometimes.
Wenis  +   292d ago
Realistically, he is not 'almost always wrong'. If he were, he wouldn't have a job. Its just that we gamers like to point out every time he is wrong.. and nobody likes to point out whenever he is right. Its more fun to laugh at him when hes wrong, than to applaud him when he is right.

This actually goes for pretty much any public figure these days.
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TooTall19  +   292d ago
His weekly episode on GT are usually the highest rated videos for the week.
MaxXAttaxX  +   292d ago
@TooTall19
People watch his videos with hopefulness, thinking they might get some inside info or some really cool predictions that might come true.
But in the end, 2 + 2 is not 7 . . . 70% of the time.
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nukeitall  +   291d ago
@NathanExplosion:

2+2 is not equal to 7 a hundred percent of the time!!! XD

What Pachter really should say is, 2 + 2 + x = 7, where x is my opinion based on information from very secretive services!

and if I told you, you would be as rich as I am suckers so stop listening to me and get a real job!!! XD
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lonesoul65  +   292d ago
takes a real man to admit he can be wrong...and shows the fact that even the things in life that seem tried and true...don't always turn out the way they were predicted
Grap  +   292d ago
lol. he can be wrong?... he is always wrong of course any one who has monkey brain will admit.
Hayabusa 117  +   291d ago
But he DIDN'T admit he was wrong. He should have said "ok, I was talking out my arse, don't know why I said that, e.t.c." instead he's being defensive by playing the opinion card. His opinion isn't the issue, we all know we are all entitled to opinions. And opinions are not 100% backed up by facts, if an opinion can be verified by facts, then it's no longer an opinion, it's a STATEMENT.
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M83_  +   292d ago
The 'educated' in educated guess is a strong word when talking about this man.
PopRocks359  +   292d ago
I see why he made his prediction; the problem is he completely forgot about Activision's support of the Wii. Only in that context did his prediction make no sense. If Activision had not supported the Wii at all (particularly with the CoD franchise) then Pachter's comments would have made more sense.
WeskerChildReborned  +   292d ago
Wow i now understand cause some of his guesses(from what i've seen) aren't always correct.
SilentNegotiator  +   292d ago
Regardless, that quote out of context totally defines Pachter.
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MEsoJD  +   292d ago
He might not be always right, but I enjoy his insight/opinion.
attilayavuzer  +   292d ago
I think what he's saying is, he usually decides what the logical answer to something is, then he knowingly spouts bullshit.
Unlimax  +   291d ago
whats 2+2 ...GONORRHEA!!!

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hellzsupernova  +   291d ago
omfgwtf that just got creepy
Shok  +   293d ago
So he called himself an idiot basically?
jjdoyle  +   292d ago
exactlys, why he gets paycheck?
andibandit  +   292d ago
Cause he's problably still smarter than most of us.
Sgt_Slaughter  +   292d ago
Smarter than you: YES.

Smarter than most people on this site and the chimpanzees at the zoo: Hell NO!
Kran  +   292d ago
So that we have someone to hate?

I mean I dont hate him personally but he can be so silly sometimes :/
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Reverent  +   292d ago
The thing with Patcher is, he believes that wearing a suit, having a serious facial expression, having a few gaming related knick knacks in his office, and making obvious guesses will make him look like some sort of gaming prodigy.
smashman98  +   292d ago
@reverent

no pachter is an analyst who works for the share holders he doesn't care about you or what you think in the end he gets paid to make predictions and your just some whiny kid on a site that pachter will never hear about

he may not be a gaming prodigy but in the end I think he hast it better off than most of us huh
sidar  +   291d ago
@jjdoyle
Knowledge. He might not predict much right. But he has insight on many key factors.

Your wage is basically linked to your knowledge and know how and the performance there of.
YoungPlex  +   292d ago
No no no no, he saying he guessing and that it's not his fault he's an idiot... He's saying that if he didn't guess that he would be right, so it's okay...

What a jag! This guy is smoking CRACK! Michael Patcher is a damn idiot and tries to blame it on "Educated Guessing", does anyone really buy that shit!?!
nintendojunkie28  +   292d ago
Yes,he did..and it's the first thing he's ever been right about.
WeskerChildReborned  +   292d ago
Basically and he gets paid for his guesses that are not always correct.
Jadedz  +   292d ago
I don't hate the man, personally
I just don't (for the majority of the time) agree with his opinions. He's well educated, and works long work hours (I respect his admission for higher learning).

Like I said - I disagree with his opinions, but I respect him as a person (people belittle him way too often).
miyamoto  +   292d ago
Only those who seek the truth can read between the lines and find fact in a pile of crap Mr. Pachter says. Hes always good for a laugh noy annoyance imho. coz he csn be honestly wrong most of the time but why does he keeps on doing it again and again with his face on the line? eh?
Fanboys blinded by hate and brand loyalty will find to know the real score
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PopRocks359  +   292d ago
Oy. Let the hate train roll on I guess?

You know, just because the media tends to view core gamers as angry, hateful and immature whiners doesn't mean we have to act like it.

The man is an analyst who is simply doing his job. There's hardly a reason to use any sort of asinine wording in your comment.
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tigertron  +   292d ago
Sometimes, eh? more like all the time.
fastNslowww  +   292d ago
I still fail to see the POINT of his career...
knifefight  +   292d ago
As long as people continue to put him under a microscope and discuss every single thing he says, his career will remain unchanged.

Stories like this one and all of our comments simply ensure that he still has the same job.
GreenRanger  +   292d ago
Sounds like Pachters calculator is broken.
M83_  +   292d ago
He'd be lucky to think of using a calculator.
Unfortunately there is a margin for error when using your own digests to come to conclusions.
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Fishy Fingers  +   292d ago
Well, no analyst can be right all the time, thats the nature of the job.

But after reading N4G and it's armchair analysts for some time, at least his 'predictions' are somewhat seated in reality.
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coolman229  +   292d ago
No, you can't be right all the time. But is it too much to ask for him to be right some of the time?
SpecialK  +   292d ago
How do you know that he always gets it wrong?

he must be doing something right to still be doing the job he is doing.

Sometimes the media only portrays when people get things wrong because its more interesting to read. So for all we know he maybe gets 70% of his predictions wrong and it valuable to some businesses, but then when he gets something wrong thats what people flock to.

Of course I could be wrong its merely a suggestion. But when the only info we have comes from gaming sites who are writing not just to inform, but to entertain, its hard to get a complete unbiased view.
sriki007  +   292d ago
Mega troll strikes again!!!!
GaryOak  +   292d ago
I was like that in school too Pachter.I was so smart the teacher wouldn't even let me sit with my lowly classmates.I had my own chair,no throne!,far away from the unwashed masses.I didn't even have to look at 'em!

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Reverent  +   292d ago
Oh come on, where is your funny bubble for that? Even if you liked Patcher, that was funny.
ToonarmY  +   292d ago
Doesn't surprise me seeing as this man is a complete knob head
cleft5  +   292d ago
Pachter has always said that his comments about gaming predictions are based in no more facts than mine or anyone else. He has never try to pretend that he was the authority on random happenings within the video game industry. He has always maintained that where he should be taken serious is when he does stuff that is actually about his job that involves analyzing quantitative data and making predictions based on the numbers he is currently seeing and the trends that have happened in the past.

He is obviously very good at that job or the company would have long since fired him. For instance, he was the one that maintain something was wrong with the NPD numbers regarding game sales a while back and sure enough their numbers where flawed.

Far to many of you guys give his random opinions to much credit simply because he is an "analyst". This guy is probably slightly more informed than some of you, but as for us folks that know a lot about the video game industry, you know the hardcore/core gamers, he doesn't know any more than we do.
smooch_357  +   292d ago
Can't agree with you more.
SpecialK  +   292d ago
^This^

May as well delete my post, that explains it way better and is pretty much spot on
zeroskie  +   292d ago
This show is about asking someone their opinion of the industry. You can't expect them to be right 100% of the time. If he continues to be totally off base, then the demand for his opinion will drop, but honestly we want to know what he thinks because of his professional insight in trade law and business which intersects with his interest in gaming.
palaeomerus  +   292d ago
OOH! I exchanged e-mails with Michael Pachter. That is somehow gaming news. DERP!
jboy  +   292d ago
Kids are starving and this clown gets paid for dreaming up bullcrap which is never correct.
nintendojunkie28  +   292d ago
Ya know,for all the bickering back and forth on n4g about which video game company is better.It's nice to see we can all agree on one thing.....michael pachter is a moron.
GammaSix  +   292d ago
Yet he is ALWAYS wrong
lorcraven  +   292d ago
Pachter is just a guy with opinions, that makes him an industry analyst, people keep mistaking it for a profession, it's a hobby. If you pay attention to an industry and then speculate on the state of that industry, that makes you an analyst by default, whether you do it in a blog or just at home among your friends.

It's weird how this guy keeps getting so much publicity and I find it annoying that people pay so much attention to him when he's just a guy with opinions, it's as if people don't trust their own opinions and look to him for some instead, then have a go it him for being wrong.
bub16  +   292d ago
Sometimes, you predict sales, guess rumours, and actually get them right...
TheBatman_Fanatic  +   292d ago
Everytime Patcher gives his opinion, I can always expcet one person to bash him and it's funny every time lol
wiiulee  +   292d ago
or 10 plus 10 equals 100....patcher sounds like a microsoft or sony fanboy afraid of the success nintendo is looking at with all that the wiiu offers....but dont worry after sony and microsoft copy nintendo patcher will get his math straight again
dubal-e  +   292d ago
So is it confirmed that Patcher is an idiot now? or do we still need more proof LOL
listenkids  +   292d ago
My intelligence is slower fading, after reading some of these comments.
BitbyDeath  +   292d ago
Sometimes he gets 7, other times he gets 700, rarely ever does he get 4. Actually i can't even think of a single time he has gotten 4.

7 is likely the closest he has ever gotten to 4.
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Nes_Daze  +   292d ago
Patcher gets paid for the same reason Justin Bieber is where he is....stupid people.
-Gespenst-  +   292d ago
This guy needs to get a real job. I just hope he doesn't get paid more than anybody who actually contributes to humankind.
Nikhil  +   292d ago
people are agreeing with everything
Psycho_Mantis  +   292d ago
Ive never seen so much shit come out of one mans mouth.
Soldierone  +   292d ago
"sometimes I'm wrong" Yep, sometimes you are wrong, and other times you are so wrong we can't remember why you get paid to state anything.....

I honestly don't remember the last time he had some major ground breaking thing WAY ahead of everyone else.....
MeatAbstract  +   291d ago
...and thats why Pachter's career as a maths teacher didn't last long.
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