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Submitted by Gekko 847d ago | rumor

£99 PlayStation 3 model has no hard drive?

The latest rumours suggest that Sony will no longer be announcing the new ‘super slim’ model of the PlayStation 3 at Gamescom next month, despite new details of the console emerging. (Dev, PS3, Sony, Tech)

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Jadedz  +   847d ago
The $99 subsidised console business model
Will it work?

I don't believe so, but anythings possible at this point in time.
WeskerChildReborned  +   847d ago
I was reading an article that made a good point about this being real good with Gaikai since you can just play games through cloud.
Jadedz  +   847d ago
I'm not arguing that fact
But isn't this bad for business? I mean, won't people now be expecting (casual consumers) all consoles to be priced like this?

Maybe Microsoft and Sony can get away with it, but it leaves Nintendo in a boat with no paddle - they clearly don't want to go the subsidised route.
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ShinMaster  +   847d ago
360 did it.
....and charged $100 for a 120GB HDD.
You can buy a 500GB HDD for PS3 for half the price.
ChronoJoe  +   846d ago
Things like this are good, they make the initial buy in price low so that the product appears more affordable. Opening the product up to a wider audience.

This indicates the final stage in the Playstation 3's life cycle, at the end they will try to refine manufacturing costs as much as possible and make this a 'budget' console whilst selling their next gen console as a 'premium' hd system.
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_-EDMIX-_  +   846d ago
@Jadedz- you also have to consider having a lower priced sku is also business. I mean it worked for MS no matter how stupid it is to games and the rest of the game community, but it sold.

In doing this, did they gimp a lot of games? HELL YES! But Squares FFXIII and Rockstar's GTAIV are not owned by MS, if they where gimped because of DVD9 or no HDDs in all 360's that hurts Rockstar and Square more then it does MS.

In terms of business, yes its a good idea. I doubt it will happen because the PS3's OS RUNS ON A HDD! So, this is pretty much not happening. I mean it could be an SSD, with isn't a HDD, but is STILL used in the same respect as one, ie i can use a 2.5 HDD in its place if i felt just.
oohWii  +   846d ago | Well said
Hmmm,funny how when Microsft release the 4GB xbox with no HD the Sony crew said it was stupid and wasn't gonna sell.

Now Sony is doing something similar and suddenly it's a great idea...

Funny how the mind of a fanboy really isn't a mind at all...
_-EDMIX-_   846d ago | Bad language | show
King_many_layers  +   846d ago
Ther is NO WAY that a model could be released without a hardrive as it would not allow for saving, updates, downloads and mandatory inatalls. The title is pathetic.
Citizen_King  +   846d ago
@WeskerChildReborned

Was it this one?

http://n4g.com/news/1047222...
t0mmyb0y  +   846d ago
Gaikai isn't even ready to go with PS. This is dumb
ARBitrator  +   846d ago
@_-EDMIX-_ - why the hell you getting so bent out of shape. I agree with oohwii, people did slam the 4GB 360 saying it was stupid, an a waste of time and wasn't gonna sell.

What do you want him/her to do drop a bunch of names for you?

You sound like you're pissed off, which makes you look lame as hell being what the subject is. In the end, who really gives a damn?
Blacksand1  +   847d ago
You can buy a 500gb hard drive on amazon for $40 to $60 dollars.
Vortex3D  +   847d ago
You forget why X360 HDD is expensive and also the reason Microsoft is making money by selling 4GB X360. Because Sony tried to be nice in letting PS3 use any general laptop hard drive, with 4GB PS3, Sony is loosing the chance to make money.

I know gamers just want the cheapest way to upgrade the console (including myself) but the console maker also needs a way to make profit from accessories. With 16GB PS3, Sony looses because they can't make up by selling expensive hard drive.

With hardcore gamers who replaces the shipping hard drive, 16GB PS3 is a perfect model to get. But are we really helping Sony? I know I'm not.

There is still a small profit Sony can make with 16GB PS3 model. Ship it without any hard drive mounting bracket and then sell it separately. At least there's a small profit until 3rd party makers release a cheaper one.

Lastly, if Sony can make the new PS3 hard drive IO with non-standard connector that will needed an adaptor in between the SATA hard drive and the PS3 hard drive IO, then they can make some extra profit that way. (I have a HP laptop like that.) I know every PS3 gamer will hate it but profit has to come from somewhere if they start to sell the new PS3 too cheap. Just look at how Apple replaced many of the laptop standard IO ports with incompatible port design and how much they are charging for the cable.
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rustyspoon80  +   846d ago
£99 ps3, add in a 1TB HDD for £75 = Great Value

( http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sam...
Blacksand1  +   845d ago
You paying you can get 500gb for $40. If you buy a 500gb console something is wrong with you get the $99 PS3 go to amazon buy the 500gb HD and make you one i did it and you can to.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sea...
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Tsar4ever  +   847d ago
A PS3 16gb flash drive with no HDD slot would be hardware suicide. The x360's 4gb gives owners the option for a HDD upgrade. Why would people even consider thinking that sony would be STUPID to release such a console?

The premium model should be 320gb not 250, and the 500gb should only be for bundle deals with added hardware accessories like extra controllers, WF headset or whatever and or a free game or such.

After saying that, I not feeling this multi SKU concept anyway. Why can't sony release "ONE CONSOLE FOR ALL" like they use to like they did with the psOne & ps2 and stop copying Microsoft, starting next-gen.
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gaffyh  +   846d ago
1. It is very likely to have a HDD slot, especially if the form factor of the console is the same as the 250GB and 500GB versions.

2. Even if it doesn't, it will still sell well with casuals.

3. The multi-SKU approach means the consumers can choose what to buy and to some extent at what price. If they had a single premium model, which they have been doing with there Bravias, that would be hardware suicide, because Sony's TV business is in huge trouble because they went with that "offer only premium" strategy.
voodoopickle  +   846d ago
ps2 had multiple sku's. was the first console to come out with the slim, therefore microsoft copied them. but good try
specialguest  +   846d ago
@voodoopickle - ps2 was not the first console with a slim model LOL
You must be a young gamer or probably don't remember.

The Sega Genesis had a slim/compact model. http://www.slipperybrick.co...
In addition, there may even be much older consoles with a slim model, but there goes your claim of MS copying Sony lol.

........but good try though.
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MostJadedGamer  +   846d ago
PS3 sales would be insane for the next year+ if they bring a $99 model to market this year.

I don't care if it is just a box with cow manure inside. If it says PS3 on the box, and it costs $99 it will sell like crazy for a very long time.
Jazz4108  +   846d ago
The problem is you can't run 99 percent of ps3 games without installs to the hardrive or you will have insanely slow load times from the blu ray drive and if you take your console onlin you have to have firmware updates. This model will not work for sony and if they do put it out they will be sued and tarnish there image evenmore.
yeahokchief  +   846d ago
Don't forget they have cloud storage for your saves and they recently bought something called Gaiki.

Perhaps you won't even need all that harddrive space anymore. It'd be nice because my 250 gb slim from 2009 is getting pretty damn full with all the kickass games and exclusives we've had.
ALLWRONG  +   846d ago
flip flop
xAlmostPro  +   846d ago
This is better than it sounds. You can easily get a 500gb HDD for £130.. so it would work out £130 for a 500gb PS3, potentially.

The only problem is they need to make it CLEAR that it has no HDD and that people will need to purchase one from a general computing store.
Jadedz  +   846d ago
My statement was badly worded
I'm sure it'll benefit Sony (and Microsoft) financially, but I don't agree with this type of business model (subsidising).

Will the majority of consumers who'll subsidise consoles, pay all that they owe in the end? What happens if the console breaks, is it like a car leasing, which all repairs are free?

I'm not doubting its success, I just don't believe it's right for the gaming business (I could be wrong, though).
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Godmars290  +   847d ago
As long as it has an expansion slot and comes with a list of recommended HDD if not a discount coupon for a specific brand - so long as its not expensive - I don't see much of a real issue.
Hellsvacancy  +   847d ago
Thats what i was thinking, but will it even have a slot for a hdd?

Ive got two spare 250gb hdds laying around somewhere, i could just use one of those
TKCMuzzer  +   847d ago
It will come with a slot. Sony are just passing on the cost of the hard drive to the consumer, giving them a choice. It's great value, especially as you can pick up hard drives very cheap.
gaffyh  +   847d ago
Yeah it will come with a slot because the 250 and 500gb are the exact same model. If the model looked different, that wouldn't case.
ventilator  +   847d ago
cheap ps3 vs wiiu, i choose ps3
user5467007  +   847d ago
Suppose if you've never a had a PS3 it would be a good choice. Plus think of all the PS3 games you have to choose from or work through

Uncharted 1-3
inFAMOUS and inFAMOUS 2
LittleBigPlanet 2
GT5
God of War 3
Resistance 1-3
Killzone 2 and Killzone 3
Modnation Racers

...I could go on but you get my point. It would keep you busy for months. I mean it's like if all your favorite games came out at launch.
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ChunkyLover53  +   847d ago
Well one is a next gen console that will last 5 or 6 years and the PS3 is entering its last year. Although I'm sure Sony will still produce them for a while, it wont have the first party support its had all this time.

If your a hardcore gamer, you probably already have the console you wanted or both consoles or all three like me.

A 16 gig PS3 Super Slim would probably be aimed at people looking for entertainment value, families or casuals. Wouldn't be surprised to see this particular model bundled with a Move or LBP Karting or even PlayStation All Stars and offered for $199.

Sony wants to attract those families and casuals so that they will have a product they can continue to sell and make money on like they did with the PS2.
_-EDMIX-_  +   846d ago
With more developers now then in 2005, free online (or just online period!) the PS3 will last longer then the PS2...EASY!. Many people don't own one, Sony has more teams now then ever, its online is free, PSN will likely support both the PS4 and PS3 etc.
ChunkyLover53  +   846d ago
@_-EDMIX-_
Sony actually has LESS developers right now than at the end of the PS2's life span.

Are you actually suggesting Sony will make first party games for the PS3 after the PS4 is coming out? Even will all of their developers at the end of the PS2's life cycle, they couldn't get a solid launch lineup for the PS3, because they were still making games for the PS2. They need to learn from that mistake.

The PS2 continued to sell because it had a far greater variety of games to choose from. The PS2 probably has the all time greatest library of games. It appealed to casuals, families and was a cheap gaming option.

The PS3 resonates with core gamer's for the most part. Anytime Sony has tried to appeal to other categories, its not been very successful this generation. The reason is because both Microsoft and Nintendo have done a better job offer options to families and casuals and entertainment seekers.

At this point and time in the console generation, any core gamer is going to have already bought the core system or systems of his/her choice. I'd not recommend anyone waste any money on PS3, 360 or Wii right now. We are so close to the next generation, I'd just put that money towards a new machine. A machine that is going to last the next 5, 6 or 7 years.
MostJadedGamer  +   846d ago
Most casual gamers will choose the cheap PS3 to. Especially since their Wii's have been in their closets collecting dust for years now.

Hardcore gamers of course already own a PS3.
TheFinalEpisode  +   847d ago
I doubt they would include no hard drive maybe an 8GB but nothing at all make just make it a complete waste of time for both Sony and the consumer
dazzrazz  +   847d ago
Nobody produces that kinda small hard drives anymore, so 8 or 16 most likely i t will be flash based storage
Neko_Mega  +   847d ago
They can just put the 16GB flash into it and sell it cheap.
megacowdung  +   847d ago
My 320gb ps3 just died. I still have the hdd. I was hoping this new ps3 would be able to hold any 2.5in SATA hdd's like the other two ps3s.
TheUndertaker85  +   846d ago
Why wouldn't it? Just because it doesn't have a HDD in it doesn't mean it can't take one.

But anyway, if you were counting on inserting your 320 into a new PS3 and continuing where you were, good luck. PS3 HDDs are locked to the system, meaning you can't take a HDD out of one PS3 then put it in another without completely reformatting the HDD.
megacowdung  +   846d ago
I need a flipping table rage thing right now...
jizzyjones  +   847d ago
Media hub
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victoryscreeeeeech  +   847d ago
No hard drive on ps3: Its still amazing u can just buy one.

8gb on Wii u: Nintendo are idiots who would not include a lot of hard drive space.

Seriously, when I was on a Nintendo artilces comments, everybody was bashing the fact that the Wii u only had 8gb. Here there is nothing bashing this rumor at all.
Skate-AK  +   847d ago
Huge difference. They are saying $99 for this 16gb PS3 and it still has double the memory of the Wii U which will be priced at $250-$300. You can go out and buy any size memory SATA 2.5 hard drive. With the Wii U you are stuck using their proprietary memory stick and they can price it at whatever. They know you need one. As you can see in these comments people have left over hard drives they would like to use and Nintendo doesn't allow them to do that. I still think the Wii U will be awesome. I was just pointing out how your logic was flawed.
victoryscreeeeeech  +   847d ago
ok, at some point I did go on an extreme. I was just pointing out how people got a lil angry over the Wii U having lil flash memory whereas this new ps3, according to this rumor, does not have any at all, Im not saying anything more or less about either console. Also, with the Wii U, Nintendo has said that any Hard Drive can be used, not just proprietary memory sticks
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synce  +   847d ago
They wont be showing it because it doesnt exist. My god people are stupid. This isn't Xbox 360, there are plenty of games that have huge MANDATORY installs.

At best these 'leaked' photos are a custom case mod by someone affiliated with whatever unheard-of site first reported this dumb rumor.
bradgrenz  +   846d ago
The largest mandatory install is 8GBs for RAGE. RAGE didn't exactly sell gangbusters. Most mandatory installs hover between 1-3 GBs. This is a SKU targeted at casual users. We're talking about people who buy 2 games a year and maybe rent 2 more. They will never run into a problem. People savvy enough to need lots of storage are also savvy enough to buy the right model, or save money by buying a 16GB model and installing their own drive. We have FCC documents already suggesting a new, smaller model. The leaked photos are very likely real.
IRetrouk  +   846d ago
It's actually GT5 @ 10 gig
bradgrenz  +   846d ago
GT5's install is optional.
IRetrouk  +   846d ago
Not when it was first released it wasn't, that option was added after the first update
Teaber  +   847d ago
Yeah. Its okay for sony to do it but when microsoft or nintendo does it, its not okay. Lol.
MRMagoo123  +   846d ago
you look like you could use a tissue
tweet75  +   846d ago
sony should make this the only ps3 for $99 and allow consumers to buy the size of harddrive they want in addition to whats here. Make the drives external or easily connected internally.
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Orionsangel  +   846d ago
You know what's gonna happen if this super slim PS3 never comes out, right?

EBAY

BID: $10.0000

That's right. Someone is gonna get their hands on one and it'll become a collectable novelty.
typeN8  +   846d ago
Cloud.
DJ  +   846d ago
Of course it will come with an expansion bay for the hard drive. What Sony does is make one PS3 model with various hard drives included. This one will simply have no hard drive included.

They're basically re-releasing the 20GB launch model for 1/4th of the price.
hiredhelp  +   846d ago
Nice £99
SlIm model and anyone can fit a laptop 5200rpm sata hdd in there ps3 with eash noob guides just youtube it.
With prices of HDD's now going back down you could end up with a 500gb slim for less than £160
SKUD  +   846d ago
Wow, Its pretty shocking just how much Sony keeps stripping the PS3 to make it more cheap. Build quality being the biggest trade off. Features second.
STEWIE_PLAY_PS4  +   846d ago
Probably Maybe Buy HDD box plug to PS3 super slim work?.
I don't see how so well.
TBONEJF  +   846d ago
Having no HARD DRIVE will be a HUGE mistake. because people who will buy if there's a cheaper PS3 model will have to pay EXTRA just to buy a internal hard drive. and i do sell PS3's also at the store i work at and it will confuse even more people trying to buy a 99$ and i think that's a BIG MISTAKE
_-EDMIX-_  +   846d ago
....So why would they buy that model? Did you hear? THERE MAKING 3 SKUS! 1 of which is the rumored 99$ one with flash instead of a HDD. (Not even sure they can even do that with the PS3's OS and all so...)

And NO ONE HAS! to pay extra. Why even get that sku if that was such a main issue? Buddy, your talking like you want to buy a minivan, but you "HAVE" to cut the whole roof off cause you really want a convertible. What a bigger HDD? Get said model. Shit if you REALLY want one a cheap price and HDD's not an issue, buy it online the Day the new PS3's come out used. Once the price drops, it will drop used prices with it, thus you can get a PS3 for cheaper used and just switch drives.

Your really making this into a bigger issue then it really is. PS3's will still have HDDs. Just that one sku won't. Mind you its just a rumor, for all we know its an SSD.
MaximusMagna  +   846d ago
Now give me a release date, need a new PS my 120Gb got a dead BD drive
FantasyStar  +   846d ago
You can just....buy your own HDD and stick it in there. Most people do just that. Problem solved.
2pacalypsenow  +   846d ago
smart
neildee250  +   846d ago
It's already been confirmed that $99 console will not happen, at least not on release - maybe a sale price at some point only.
modesign  +   846d ago
if people want a ps3 they will get it, 5 yrs ago no one said "im gonna wait till the ps3 is 99 dollars then ill get it"
DivineAssault  +   846d ago
who cares? if someone wants a ps3 w a hdd, its not hard to find... I highly doubt sony will release them without hdds tho.. Maybe the low end model will have flash memory but the others will definitely have the 2.5s... I wouldnt mind geting a super slim either... Its not that ugly & i can keep my phat backwards compatable version fresh & in its box for a possible amazon sale
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MiamiACR21  +   846d ago
If this is true, I will finally be buying a PS3.
units  +   846d ago
What about massive mandatory installs?
hiredhelp  +   845d ago
What about the massive mandatory install. If you have a decemt size HDD whats the problem..
BitbyDeath  +   845d ago
It'd likely have a flash drive to cover those if this does exist.
kingPoS  +   846d ago
"Sigh" Does $99 sound like a sustainable price point to anybody here??? Ok! lets put things into perspective. No too long ago Sony bought Gaikai for 380mil. Sony has also been constantly revising ps3 hardware to bring down cost. Still with me... Does anybody know how much the actual retail stores pay Sony for each PS3 unit? In addition you also have have to factor in manufacture costs. $199 sounds more reasonable, does anyone disagree.

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