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Submitted by Mystery-Food-X 847d ago | news

We don't pay for exclusives says Nintendo

Nintendo president Satoru Iwata has swept aside any notion of Nintendo splashing the cash for big platform exclusives.

Iwata said that they will not be paying for exclusives. Instead they will be looking for games that make innovative use of the Wii U's unique capabilities. (Dev, Industry, Nintendo, Satoru Iwata, Wii U)

matgrowcott  +   848d ago
I keep reading about Nintendo high-ups saying they don't do certain things. "We don't pay for exclusives." "We don't force developers to add achievements." Not so long ago they were saying that they don't see why they'd focus on online services.

It's nice that they have their own identity, but there's a lot of things that PS3/360 owners take for granted and without those things they might not buy into a Wii U. You have to be flexible and Nintendo don't seem to want to adapt to how gaming is changing.
Morrigan-Aensland  +   848d ago
I think zombie u might be ported to Xbox and ps3 since Ubisoft likes making money and Nintendo didn't pay for it. I think it should be ported to the vita also. I won't buy the game but I know a lot of gamers say they like the game so I'm quite sure a few would get it for other systems.
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JaggedCarpet  +   847d ago
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Rye or the Kaiser, or the wheat or the white
Maybe I can suggest an appetizer!
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Sono421  +   847d ago
Am I the only one that doesn't understand why this comment was posted in this article? Or why it was a reply to Matgrowcott's comment? Or why it got so many agree's when it was far off topic? Doesn't make any sense.. but hey that's N4G for ya.
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Jadedz  +   848d ago
What about Monster Hunter?
They'll never do what Microsoft does, but they'll gladly pay for advertising and what not, for a game's exclusive right to be on their gaming platforms.

Nintendo can't afford a bidding war between Sony and Microsoft. Maybe they can, but it would be at the expense of them paying out the ***, and they'd rather use their funds for game development purposes.
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matgrowcott  +   848d ago
I can understand the reasons behind it, I'm not saying they should out and out emulate Sony and Microsoft. It just occurs to me that Nintendo have thus far spent more time telling people what they don't plan to do over what they plan to do. And when you read behind the lines, to me it sounds like "we don't follow trends, we make them."

And you really have to get the basics down before you can break the rules. I sort of think that was the problem with the Wii, they started with the controller instead of starting with a gaming machine.
PopRocks359  +   847d ago
"You have to be flexible and Nintendo don't seem to want to adapt to how gaming is changing."

They are. The Wii had next to no online service, had little third party support and no achievements. The Wii U is the exact opposite from that.
hellvaguy  +   847d ago
Ok the ps2 and xbox 1 had online and 3rd party support 5 years before the wii even released.

So basically over 10 years later the Wii U is still playing catch up. Depressing.
Hisiru  +   847d ago
@hellvaguy
So you forgot the Gamecube?
SkullBlade169  +   847d ago
@hisiru

What, you mean the two Gamecube games that supported online play and required an add-on to the console?

For the record, Dreamcast supported online play. Even the Mega Drive/Genesis had a very limited support for it. The little support that the Gamecube provided is hardly worth bringing up in a debate.

Nintendo is even behind Sega, a company that stopped working on consoles in 2003 in the online aspect. This isn't something to be proud of. :P
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Hisiru  +   847d ago
@SkullBlade169
I think it's ignorance to say Nintendo is behind sega, but I could say the same thing about motion control on the Wii (which was copied by Sony and Microsoft later), the same thing can be said about D-pad, rumble, analog, triggers and some other things Nintendo brought to the industry. Now Nintendo did it again and Microsoft is trying to improve the xbox companion app calling it "Smart Glass" and trying to copy Nintendo. The same goes to Sony improving the PSP's capabilities trying to give the same WiiU experience.

Like it or not, Nintendo is also always bringing something new to the industry, so your "Nintendo is behind Y" argument has some flaws. Youre probably just a hater.

Also we don't even have the full details about the WiiU. We should wait for the september conference then we will be able to talk about that.
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BitbyDeath  +   847d ago
I could say the same thing about motion control on the Wii (which was copied by Sony and Microsoft later)

PS2 was the first to do motion control with the Eye-Toy
CaptainN  +   847d ago
So you guys think Nintendo was behind in online,try reading this article and get back to me !

http://n4g.com/news/939525/...
portal_2  +   847d ago
Ahh the Dreamcast...happy memories.
Puddlejumper75  +   847d ago
Wii had online and it worked fine in every game I played online

Some games even had achievements they just didnt force everyone to do it.

@bitbydeasth
PS2 was not the first console to offer motion control gaming. That honor goes to the Atari 2600.
Sono421  +   847d ago
The fact that you got disagrees just shows how idiotic the people are on here, there's seriously only a handful of level minded people on this site, the rest are biased ignorant morons.
dboyc310  +   847d ago
Nintendo like Sony don't need to pay for exlusives. They simply have enough studios to make them on their own.
CouldHaveYelledUiiW  +   847d ago
Remember->Sony MAKES HD TV's.
The problem is that people tend to "radify" Nintendo's comments beyond what they meant.

"NINTENDO Doesn't LIKE HD! They Hate HD! THEY will Never Use it!"

"NINTENDO Hate the INTERWEBZ! They wills Never EVERz have online services. "

Nintendo has always said that somethings need to wait. They thought HD needed a bigger install base before they could make it a selling point- so they made Wii.

They thought the same about online. (Even though GameCube had a modem and Famicom in Japan (in the 80's) had online banking and other advanced at the time features. But they did not make much money off of it, so they stopped.

Nintendo is trying not to force the industry or themselves into investing or pushing technology that the majority does not use or have.

HD TV's now have a bigger install base.
High Speed Internet is was more affordable/common than it was 6 years ago.

Is this a little because of Sony and Microsoft?
Yes.
But you can't argue that both companies won't/didn't make profits in other ways off of those technologies being adopted/pushed.

>Sony MAKES HD TV's. (+games and consoles)
>Microsoft sells Computers (software) and Internet Solution and Browsers. (+games and consoles)

Both of these companies benefit from the money they invest in pushing HD and Internet connection.

Nintendo JUST makes Games and Consoles.
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DivineAssault  +   847d ago
& Dragon Quest? or was that Squares idea? lol Someone plz answer me this (not lying to yourself), "without children & casuals, do u think nintendo would still be in the hardware business?"
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Baka-akaB  +   847d ago
Of course it was square's idea , and a no brainer .

Dragon quest games always get released on the machines with the biggest fanbase and most potential . With the wii being on top and easy compatibility on WII U , or the big success of the 3ds , its easy to see why they went there on their own .

Now i dont think Nintendo should brag about not fighting for those exclusives , and having them just happen when the publisher wants to... definitively not a positive message to me .

Especially when the money you are not using could produce new ips ALONG your usual sequels . I love them but Nintendo's ip creation is definitively in the backsit here , and they are the number one driving force behind their home consoles' offering .
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WeskerChildReborned  +   847d ago
I read about this a while back.
HalfNerdHalfAmazing  +   847d ago
If nintendo wants the core gamers back they have to pay for exclusives
ChunkyLover53  +   847d ago
Why would they have to pay for exclusives? Nintendo has always had some of the best exclusives ever made. The Wii U Gamepad will mean that third party companies will make exclusives by default. Games like ZombiU, which require the Gamepad, its something the other consoles don't have standard, which means Nintendo gets an exclusive that it didn't have to pay for.

Almost everything on the Wii was exclusive, for one reason or another.
cuddlemonkey  +   847d ago
True but... was/is that a good thing?
jetlian  +   847d ago
Because most hardcore players are above nintendo ips. After 2 years wii had nect to no 3rd party exclusives.

to be honest I got GC/WII for the naruto 4 player games. I had fun with a few other games but thats it. Wii u as far as I can see has nothing.

Nintendo should make some hardcore ips atleast
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Puddlejumper75  +   847d ago
You talk about hardcore gaming then bring up Naruto? LMAO.Best joke ever
jetlian  +   847d ago
yea the fun 4 player fighting game. I read the manga every week. Doesnt mean thats all I play. I like fighting games as well as ninjas so it fits. And naruto is more hardcore than pikman,DK,Mario, zelda or the rest of nintendos line up.

when was the last time anybody really dies in nintendo games? Naruto people get impaled, blown up, hacked you name it.
LOL_WUT  +   847d ago
Well, with all the money they have from not paying for exclusives one would think they'd be making new "EXCITING" and refreshing ip's but no...
PopRocks359  +   847d ago
Like Dillon's Rolling Western, Sakura Samurai and Pushmo?
PopRocks359  +   847d ago
Honestly, the fact that I even got disagrees for this...

People are too stupid for words.
DivineAssault  +   847d ago
BUBBLE + buddy
mike1up  +   847d ago
It's funny because that statement is coming from a Sonic fan. When is the last time that he had an "EXCITING" and refreshing game?

It's ironic because the answer to that question is Sonic Colors for the Wii.
Lyr1c  +   847d ago
I actually think Sonic Generations is better....And that released not all that long ago...
nerdkiller  +   847d ago
they should at least buy studios for god sakes they haven't even bought retro what if sony or msoft decide to get there greedy little hands on them cuz nintendo are being tight asses. i thought they were japanese not jewish [honk honk]
_-EDMIX-_  +   847d ago
We don't pay for exclusives....but we do make our systems under powered as to show publishers to not port to our system to force them to make content that is only taking advantage of our system.....um..no...i mean no. The answer is no. LOL.

Nintendo underpowered the Wii U to avoid having publishers port all there games on Wii U. They don't want to have there games compete with 3rd party publishers. COD and BF both sell more then games like Resistance, even with games like Resistance being exclusive. Nintendo wants to avoid that. They are actually hurting there own fans by doing this. They keep talking about getting "hardcore games" but they VERY much know there system won't get PS4 or 720 ports.

Nintendo is not that dumb. Its just a way to get early adapters. Period. I wonder what crap there going to be saying to gamers later when PS4 and 720 are out and Mass Effect 4, AC4, BF4 etc are all not on Wii U?

Look at it this way.

In terms of when this gens started it was, Dreamcast, PS2, Gamecube, XB.

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360, PS3, Wii.

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Wii U, ?, ? but clearly both will be PS4 and 720.

Now in terms OF TECH!Its been

PS2, Gamecube, XB, Wii.

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PS3, 360, Wii U

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PS4, 720, Wii I (clearly its not a real Nintendo system but you get my drift)

The Wii U is about as next gen as the Wii was THIS GEN! By NAME ONLY! IN terms of tech, its just a current gen PS3 or 360 with updated tech....thats it. So Nintendo CLEARLY knows this, they really can't not know it. They know they are releasing with dated tech JUST about before PS4 and 720 come out, how can they not know this is going to happen?

Did they forget, Mass Effect, Assassin's Creed, Battlefield, MGS, COD, GTA, Dead Space, RE (main RE's ie 5 and 6), etc ALL didn't make there way to the Wii? I mean when they did, they clearly where not the same versions, not even a little bit. So...they knew this AND STILL made a system at the ending of a generation with current gen tech? But wait...they want "hardcore games" and "3rd party support" um...you want 3rd party games? You want FULL 3rd party support? Make your hardware NEXT GEN, and believe me,you'll see those PS4 and 720 ports and full 3rd party support.

Clearly by the hardware thats in the Wii U, they expected this and knew it would be like this. Nintendo could care less about getting Hardcore games, if they did, i doubt they would be doing this.
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ozstar  +   847d ago
Nobody will read that.

And please explain to us why the 360 was the lead platform last gen. and the 3DS is the lead platform for this gens handhelds?
jetlian  +   847d ago
I read it and 360 was the first to market and easiest. 3DS and vita arent getting the same games so I have know clue where you were going with that and it proves his point.

Wii missed a lot of 3rd party because it was weak. And if you read what he said you would see its probably gonna happen again.
Ck1x  +   847d ago
@Jetlian: Wii missed the same experience of 3rd party games because it wasn't HD, nothing more nothing less! People now making it into something more than it was, are just reaching. To believe that every Nintendo console that follows will suffer the same scenario is just a fanboy's wishful thinking...
PirateThom  +   847d ago
@Ck1k

It wasn't because the Wii wasn't HD.

It was a lot of different things.

The weaker CPU and GPU and lower RAM would have made it impossible for a lot of the games to run, even if they dropped resolution. These things don't just make games look pretty.

The default controller for the system didn't lend its self well to most genres.

The online component in most games was crippled.

More important, when a third party did try to bring a core game to the system, it just didn't sell. There was no incentive.

Not being in HD was the least of the Wii's problems.
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Ck1x  +   847d ago
@PirateThom: I think I just wasn't clear! What I meant to say is that it wouldn't have mattered about Nintendo going extreme specs with the Wii, because that wasn't what they were shooting for with that console. But when I mentioned that Wii didn't get certain games because Nintendo didn't push for it to be an HD console. I thought that was a given that it would need a better CPU, GPU and RAM to perform such task and didn't want to state the obvious. What are people's connection between Wii and WiiU on 3rd party support though? Besides the name similarities these systems are apple and oranges to each other. So why would people assume its going to suffer the same fate as Wii did with 3rd party games? Which is why I call it wishful thinking...
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JaggedCarpet  +   847d ago
How do you know the power of the Wii U? Is there a spec list somewhere I missed? Hopefully you're not stating rumor as fact. Only an idiot would do that.
Puddlejumper75  +   847d ago
Yeah thats pretty much the entire N4g user base. Just a bunch of butt hurt Sony fanboys for the most part who cant accept that another company is better than their chosen company.

For the past 6 years or so power is all that mattered. Now that a console is out that is far superior in every way to the PS3 they cant handle it and need to attack.

You wont find Nintendo gamers going to Sony articles making stuff up because most of Nintendos gamers are far older and more mature.
Baka-akaB  +   847d ago
guys like you can live in dreamland lalalaworld and keep pretending there aint issues within all 3 groups of fanboys .

The 360 fanboys werent any less worse and different .

And now we got some hypocrites in the nintendo fanboy group that pretended for years that HD didnt matter , power didnt matter , hell that ps3/360 games sucked beause they were all cinematics and graphics no gameplay ... but now revels in the power of the Wii U .

What's important is that none of those groups were ever right anyway
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KMCROC54  +   847d ago
Not yet you don't , but you will.
ozstar  +   847d ago
They
don't
have
to.

Good luck with that Apple.
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Knushwood Butt  +   847d ago
Nintendo pay third party devs to make games for Nintendo to publish all the time.

Is that not paying for exclusives?
Jadedz  +   847d ago
That's a great point, but...
The titles Nintendo pay 3rd party studious to develop for their hardware platforms, will always remain exclusive to their hardware, because they paid for those new Ip's to be developed onto their hardware (Pandora's Tower, The Last Story).

I think what this article is talking about, is popular branded 3rd party IP's (Kingdom Hearts, Metal Gear Solid, COD, Splinter Cell) - which Nintendo won't pay for.
Knushwood Butt  +   847d ago
Fair enough.
Ck1x  +   847d ago
The comment itself is actually interesting and quite misleading! Because although Nintendo has no plans on just throwing cash at a developer to get a game for an exclusive time period or DLC released for their platform only. They are willing to "partner" as they call it, in doing such things as publishing 3rd party games for the system(which Nintendo then has them put in unique elements or fix certain issues within the game, like Ninja Gaiden3 for example). But in the end, Nintendo is spending out money to get a unique version of their own. So while NG3 is on the PS3&360 already, those that have played the new game on WiiU state that it's clearly a different game...
coolman229  +   845d ago
If there's one thing that I want Nintendo to do, it's to secure rights to HD remakes of Shenmue 1 and 2, maybe even in a bundle. That right there would sell so many Wii U's.

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