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Submitted by Kiriel 729d ago | opinion piece

Why Newell deems Windows 8 a catastrophe

Hooked Gamers writes "Gabe Newell, managing director of Steam and (arguably) savior of PC gaming, lashed out at Windows 8 yesterday, saying that Windows 8 is “a catastrophe for everyone in the PC space”. As he did not explain himself very well, it took a while for things to sink in, but sink in it did." (Gabe Newell, Industry, Windows 8)

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greenpowerz  +   729d ago
Sounds like he deems himself so vital to Western software he tried to muscle his way in MSFT Corp trying to dictate MSFT's strategy as if he was a partner, there was a falling out.
Sounds like he wanted to merge ideas and was rejected. Now he is an enemy competitor on some level in his mind. MSFT likes control of their products they would never allow for his open ideas etc.

He's mad because he wanted to use MSFT to launch his ideas. The MOD fights were just the beginning of his true intent and agenda. Piggy backing off of MSFT's resources(naive)
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Reverent  +   729d ago
Wow, just wow. I don't even know what to say to that. Just, do some actual research on Gabe.

Yeah, he's made mistakes, but everything he's done lately has made up for it all. I mean, come on; Steam.
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Amazingmrbrock  +   729d ago
His big problem if you read the article is microsoft is closing windows 8 to unsigned programs.

That means pretty much no unsigned exe.s or .bats of any kind essentially. No custom drivers, no emulators, no game mods or unofficial patches that install themselves. No anything unless it passes through microsofts certification and is downloaded through their marketplace.
Letros  +   729d ago
You are thinking of Windows RT, which is different than Windows 8.

It will still be possible release "uncertified" programs (apps) on W8, however they will not be publishable through the Windows Marketplace, nor receive a Windows Certification Stamp(whoopdie doo). Steam will be unaffected by Windows 8, it's not "illegal"...the author needs to do some research before publishing FUD.
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Farsendor1  +   729d ago
at least bing gabe
esemce  +   729d ago
@ greenpowerz Sounds like you know f*ck all and did not read the article idiot.
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greenpowerz  +   729d ago
WTF are you going on about? Anyways I'm talking about the evolution of the relationship between the 2 parties over the years lol.

Gabe tried to influence the way MSFT ran XBL for his own interest. I can see how you're so defensive having his platform on PS3. MSFT wants to control security and their own business interests, obviously having their own plans in this segment of this market.

Windows 8 will have built-in game capabilities across the board, built in digital games console and marketplace to built in Xbox console system software(no need for xbox hardware, use pc the play xbox)

Let me go research Gabe's past strong opinions on past MSFT OS's ;)

#5 LastOfGen is right!
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Bigpappy  +   729d ago
I like Gabe. But he was saying all the same things about the PS3, then folded later when M$ rejected is ideas for opening their system. Gabe is an opportunist through and through.

This does not make him a bad person, he just would like to have more access than M$ is willing to give to their huge userbase.
greenpowerz  +   729d ago
I have nothing against him. He was vocal about it talking angry MSFT wouldn't fold.

" Newell spent thirteen years working for Microsoft Corporation, ultimately becoming a "Microsoft Millionaire". Newell has described himself as "producer on the first three releases of Windows"

FEELS HE IS ENTITLED TO SUGGEST MSFT STRATEGY OR TRY TO FORCE WITH AAA SOFTWARE

"Newell and another Microsoft employee, Mike Harrington, left Microsoft to found Valve in 1996. [3] He and Harrington used their money to fund Valve through the development of Half-Life. "

STARTED HIS OWN BUSINESS ON HIS OWN MAKING HIM BELIEVE HE HAS EVEN MORE LEVERAGE

" But Microsoft isn't quite so trusting, and Valve CEO Gabe Newell wants to change that with the release of Counter-Strike: Global Offensive. "The main thing is having Microsoft get comfortable with it and let us do it," Newell said regarding the difficult task of selling the idea of Steam for the Xbox. "Right now, there's a huge amount of updates and free content we've been able to deliver to people who have The Orange Box that we haven't been able to deliver to the Xbox because of the restrictions that have been placed on us on Xbox Live."

THINKING HE KNOWS BETTER THAN MSFT AND WANTS THEM TO ADOPT HIS OWN IDEAS BUT HAS HIS OWN BUSINESS AGENDA OPENING THE FLOOD GATES FOR FREE AND CHARGED CONTENT

There are many more statements from Gabe. I remember he was having a heart attack about not getting his way. He started his businesses and thought he was important enough to dictate MSFT based on his agenda thinking he could piggy back his businesses on MSFT's infrastructure and resources. Now MSFT has a OS coming out that is a threat.

What company would open the flood gates for another maketplace on their platform when It's a primary product of the host platform?

Naturally he'd love
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ChunkyLover53  +   729d ago
This guy is so full of himself sometimes. I still remember all the hate he had for the PS3, only to look foolish years later and act like he never said the things he said.
taquito  +   729d ago
@chunky

yeah, he looks so foolish,

"Gabe Newell, co-founder and managing director of Valve Corporation, is one of the richest people on the planet. With an estimated net worth of $1.5 billion dollars, he ranks 854th out of 1,226 global billionaires."

-forbes

dudes like santa claus, giving out tasty games for practically free

steam is hands down the best gaming platform, better than psn, xboxlive, wiiware or any other pretenders out there

steam features mods, developer help, forumns, cross game, cross task, multitasking chat, a store with UNBEATABLE prices, news, patch notes, betas, free to play, upload your videos and pics, in game screenshots and recording. film editing software, indie dev platforms with peer review, free sdk's

all that and more in one slick interface that uses allmost ZERO system resourses

now look at psn and xboxlive

they look worse than a vhs does to bluray

Gabe shits better things out than xbox live and psn
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Mustang300C2012  +   729d ago
Wow another Fluffer here folks.
Veni Vidi Vici  +   729d ago
Couldn't have said it better myself.

Gabe is the best thing to happen to PC gaming in the past 10 years. Heck, maybe even longer.

Not only does Valve create some of the best, well supported games, they treat both the consumer and developer better than any company I can think of. That's the reason he won't make Valve a publicly traded company. He knows investors will ruin everything just to make a buck. He's more concerned with doing things correctly than what makes the most money.
WeskerChildReborned  +   729d ago
Yea Gabe is a pretty cool guy even though i don't agree with everything he says.
DudeJets  +   729d ago
Windows 8 is horrible to look at and I do quite honestly feel disappointed after win7
JBSleek  +   729d ago
What he is really trying to say is Windows 8 poses a threat to what I am doing as a company is doing with Windows Store which will likely be the first location consumers go for games and services.

So as a business man be backs up Linux a platform which doesn't have that and he can do whatever he so fits to do. Well that doesn't make sense as Linux holds less than 1% of the market so it's kinda laughable.

Everyone hates when people and figures paint a product as a doom before it has come out or has it's time to shine but are easy to call Windows 8 a fail and it is justified? I just don't understand.
sjaakiejj  +   729d ago
"people and figures paint a product as a doom before it has come out or has it's time to shine"

"Well that doesn't make sense as Linux holds less than 1% of the market so it's kinda laughable. "

Isn't that like hypocritical, considering you just did the same as the people you complain about?
CyberCam  +   729d ago
LOL! Very observant sjaakiejj... ohh the irony!

"Linux holds less than 1%"... please provide proof sir. I love people that pull numbers out of thin air and those that find some form of out dated data. There's really no way for anyone to actually get accurate numbers on linux use worldwide, period!
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JBSleek  +   729d ago
Linux has been out for years it isn't new at all. As Windows 8 comes out October 26.

So how did I do the same? I said a fact and figure not a random doom comment.

@CyberCam http://www.bgr.com/2012/07/...

I have facts and numbers Windows own over 90% as Linux falls under the dotted so as I said 1%.
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sjaakiejj  +   728d ago
"So how did I do the same?"

Because you're painting a product as doomed (laughable) before it's had it's time to shine (thanks to newfound support by Valve).

Also

"Because Linux desktop distributions are not usually distributed by retail sale like other operating systems, there are no sales numbers that indicate the number of users. One downloaded file may be used to create many CDs and each CD may be used to install the operating system on multiple computers. On the other hand the file might be used only for a test and the installation erased soon after. Due to these factors estimates of current Linux desktop often rely on webpage hits by computers identifying themselves as running Linux. The use of these statistics has been criticized as unreliable and as underestimating Linux use"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
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lastofgen  +   729d ago
He might as well say that windows 8 threatens to disrupt his company's business and revenue as a result of a more unified windows experience. He's just trying to promote his company's business, that's all. That's the only main reason he deems windows 8 catastrophic.
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Mustang300C2012  +   729d ago
Bingo
mcgrottys  +   729d ago
I'm sorry gabe I have selective hearing, maybe if you said something about half life 3 I would bother listening >:|

Oh and if Gabe decides to make HL 3 a linux exclusive I would... well I'd just be very annoyed, even more annoyed than when EA made Battlefield 3 an origin only title.
Patriots_Pride  +   729d ago
Wow...if Gabe did make HL3 exclusive to Linux that would be huge.

I am not sure where I stand with that as every company has its exclusive so cant blame him for doing that but at the same time I would be some what disappointed.

Gabe is a very strange man because you never can predict him and he is very bi-polar.
Mustang300C2012  +   729d ago
Yes a huge mistake it would be an idiotic decision to make. His action would not all of a sudden convert consumers to change OS. He has to come back to reality.
sjaakiejj  +   729d ago
" His action would not all of a sudden convert consumers to change OS."

You'd be surprised.. When Halo released for Xbox, PC gamers suddenly converted to console. Who's to say that PC gamers will not likewise run Linux in a dual boot system to play Half Life 3?

How about Diablo 3? You really think a free OS is going to keep people from playing it?
thebudgetgamer  +   729d ago
He thinks windows 8 is the prettiest site admin on the net?
Subzero200  +   729d ago
"Why Newell deems Windows 8 a catastrophe"

why not windows 7 was a disaster lol people are still using winxp, so what does that say about win8.
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hiredhelp  +   729d ago
Bigger picture here missed by the auther good read btw is MS Could choose not to have valve system app (Steam) certified and not allowed to run on WIN 8.
But i dont think Ms wants to do this they know GFWL not very popular when compare to steam plus peer to peer.
Also im sure MS takes a cut from gabe for his buisness steam on windows is after all making money by using MS windows ti distribute sales games to all us pc gamers.
Gabe needs ms windows as much as ms needs steam if you understand.
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MacUser1986  +   729d ago
He also deems no food uneatable.
Awesome-Xanto  +   729d ago
As far as I aware, the following in not correct: "Windows 8 makes it ‘illegal’ to purchase and download software through any other storefront than Marketplace – unless – it has been licensed by Microsoft."

Metro apps would be what this is referring too. Desktops apps still work the same way that they always have and can be accessed through the desktop screen. So whoever wrote this article doesn't seem to understand the difference.

Windows 8 is still an open platform really, and unless Metro becomes super popular and MS cuts out the desktop in a future OS I don't see that changing.

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