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Submitted by 32froshes 818d ago | opinion piece

Final Fantasy XIII Should Have Been The Breakfast Club of Final Fantasy Games

I didn’t like Final Fantasy XIII all that much.

I know the sentiment isn’t all that uncommon; not a lot of people liked that game. Well, that’s not true. A lot of people liked that game, but almost all of them live in Japan. And people in Japan do some weird things. (Final Fantasy XIII, PS3, Xbox 360)

LiamDirish  +   818d ago
Let's just get one thing straight, it's not a bad game. It's linear structure is very similar to FFX, tunnelling you from one area to the next and then allowing you a lot more freedom in gran pulse (just like the calm lands). Sure some of the characters were irritating (Vanille & Hope) but the story was great, the music was good and the battle system was nice and quick (although leveling up was very restricted at times)
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32froshes  +   818d ago
The story had more potential than a lot of people give it credit for. But that potential wasn't ever reached, in my opinion.
Godmars290  +   818d ago
The thing is, "failing to reach your potential," is the literal and exact thing as "failing" or being "Bad."

FFXIII was a bad game, a bad JRPG, because it failed to live up to its potential.
deep_fried_bum_cake  +   818d ago
"FFXIII was a bad game, a bad JRPG, because it failed to live up to its potential."

That's just stupid. Every game has potential which they fail to meet, that does not make them bad. And it does not make XIII bad.

You can call it a bad Final Fantasy game and I'll have no objection, but it was not a bad game.
Godmars290  +   818d ago
@deep_fried_bum_cake
In your opinion it wasn't bad, just as in mine it was.

With the only added difference between us is that I think it was so bad, that Square have presented themselves and many other project so poorly, focused on the wrong things this gen - which sadly were probably the exact same things they focused on last - that I have no faith in them anymore.
JoySticksFTW  +   818d ago
All I know is, FF XIII was the very first FF that I had to force myself to finish.

When a game that's supposed to be fun becomes more like work, that's not a good sign.

And it's my own fault for forcing myself to finish instead of quitting.

But I've been a FF / Square fan for a long time now, and I really hoped the story would come around and grab me when all else failed (characters, pacing, etc). This didn't happen for me.

As someone mentioned above, it was only when you finally get to Gran Pulse with the ability to explore a little bit, that the game becomes marginally better.
TheLyonKing  +   818d ago
The fact that your had to read notes to understand the story though defeats the purpose of having a good narrative to the game.
Summons75  +   818d ago
This is how I have always felt.....thank you!
wishingW3L  +   818d ago
FF13 never gives you freedom like FFX where you could go back to certain places and do side-quest for ultimate weapons and aeons. FF13 is a straight line from beginning to end. What liberty there was in Pulse anyway? Pulse was just a plain map with monsters and stones scattered around, there was nothing else in it!
Bordel_1900  +   818d ago
To be honest I don't care that much if a game is linear or not, as long as the game is awesome I'm happy.

FF XIII was plain boring and tedious.
Anderson8  +   818d ago
my thoughts exactly.. xiii was so bad i didnt even bother finishing it and thats a first for any game ive played not jus in the ff series..
Ranma1  +   818d ago
You shouldnt say FF10 is similiar to FF13,

FF10 is 10 times better
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kanetheking  +   818d ago
ff10 is x times better then ff13, get it x haha i am so funny, but i enjoyed 13 i never really got the hate hope got his mother bloody died in front of him, i did not like lighting and vanille tho they was bland as hell, and since ff13-2 is 10pound i am getting that and it's got catching type system in it and i like my catchings.
Nerdmaster  +   818d ago
Until this day I try to figure out how SE managed to take all the good things about FFX, twist them and make a terrible game.

FFX was linear, but there were plenty of places and cities where you could rest from battles a little. FFXIII was like a gigantic dungeon, you finished one of them, watched a cutscene and another dungeon started right after that. It was battles, after battles, after battles. The only place without battles, that circus thing place, didn't have anything to do but walk until the next set of battles.

In FFX we heard Tidus' thoughts and could understand more of the character. FFXIII tried to do this, but decided to let us hear the thought of Vanille, the worse, and most irritating character in any FF. (To be fair, Quina was a worse character, but not as irritating).

The Sphere Grid was a great way to change the level system, by letting us see the growth path of each character and have some control over it. The Crystarium was visually similar to the Sphere Grid, but they removed any customization and it wasn't any different than tradicional level system.

FFX battles were quicker than previous games, but you still could think and create strategies. FFXIII battles were too quick and too automatic, since you can't control the other members of your party.

FFX story made us understand the world little by little, through the eyes of someone who was new to it. FFXIII thought we already knew its world and we got lost in it. Oh, and the story was a mess.
TheLyonKing  +   818d ago
What are you talking about, Hope was far more annoying haha and Quina was an awesome character and a powerful Blu-Mage.

I agree with your other points though. The lack if cities was terrible. The first time any ff game as skipped on cities/towns!
Treian  +   818d ago
No. The story was linear like most FF games. FFX's dungeons had a lot of pathways. There was towns, sidequests, and mini games. That is what 13 lacked.
DragonKnight  +   818d ago
@LiamDirish: It isn't similar to FFX. With FFX you actually felt like you were in a living world, you didn't have linearity thrown in your face at every turn. You could enter houses for goodness sake. FF13 is a bad game. It is a terrible game.
Godmars290  +   818d ago
if they had known what they were doing, in several respects, we could have gotten a literal epic "chase" story which described an only interesting world. Sure it would have had on rails flying segments, a few weapons and characters to focus on, but at least it wouldn't have been to empty J-pop attempt we got.

Damnit,someone make a multidimensional travel device so I can go to the reality *THAT* game exists. It would be worth ripping a hole in all of space-time or unleashing elder horrors on this reality.
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Da One  +   818d ago
"A lot of people liked that game, but almost all of them live in Japan."

Couldn't be more wrong.... FFXIII's reception world wide was a surprise...I don't like bringing sales up into a argument, but the sales figures of FFXIII-2 were more surprising.
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wishingW3L  +   818d ago
FF13 sold 7 millions while FF13-2 sold less than 2 millions. What part of the sales are supposed to be surprising? Specially when FF series is the biggest JRPG franchise in the west [well, and Pokemon too] and it sold that bad.

True is that most people didn't like FF13 an they all skipped the sequel. There is no way to spin the meaning of such bad sales... And have in mind that FF series is a high budget franchise unlike Demon's Souls or Tales of Graces which can sell 2 millions and make a profit because they are low budget games.
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DragonKnight  +   818d ago
"Most people loved 13."

...

"Unless you can prove to me over 5 million people..."

You think that because 6 million people bought FF13 that 5 million people loved it? You have the audacity to make a claim like that then demand someone prove to you the opposite of your claim? FF13 received more hate than any other FF game ever. WORLDWIDE! That is verifiable FACT you can look up with google.
solidjun5  +   818d ago
"So stop speaking out of your ass"

MAybe you should practice what you preach tippytaco...i mean, shintowave123, i mean...whatever account you use that ultimately was banned because of spamming.
Da One  +   817d ago
@ wishing

I'm confused are you seem to be agreeing with what my opinion

1.I was surprised about how bad FFXIII was received (as the author stated only people in Japan liked it, which is highly inaccurate, they seemed to have hated it too)

2.The sales of FFXIII-2 were very low compared to the original

I think i might have made my point confusing with my wording.
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kratos123  +   818d ago
Thank you for adding that , the writer doesn't now anything he is only assuming they liked it over there. That to my comes over as unprofessional journalism
TheColbertinator  +   818d ago
FFXIII sure did suck.FFXIII-2 was slightly better
maniacmayhem  +   818d ago
FF13 had its issues and some personal gripes from me. But it wasn't the worse FF i have ever played. And it wasn't even the worse JRPG I have ever played. The production, and quality was top notch.

FF-132 improved on a lot of what I complained about for 1. And I loved that game.

And I agree with Watermellon above, its time to move on and focus on something else to complain about Square.
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belac09  +   818d ago
LOL! i love reading all these FF comments, people are crazy.
Acquiescence  +   818d ago
Moms are tough...
And I've browsed xHamster enough to know that truer words were never spoken.
Roper316  +   818d ago
FF XIII was a beautiful looking action/adventure game with some light RPG elements to it. I enjoyed the game but just not as what was supposed to be a main FF game. It seemed more like one of the spin-off titles to me, kinda like Dirge of Cerebus.

I just picked up FF XIII-2 for like 15 bucks and will see if the changes made bring it back closer to a traditional FF game.

What I wouldn't do for a old school JRPG like FF VI - FF IX with world maps,towns, people to talk to, boats,planes, cars and a good old turned based battle system.
Skateboard  +   818d ago
Play XII, its more like VI,VII, VIII, and IX, NPC's and all.
Roper316  +   817d ago
I played XII back when it released on the PS2, With the exception of the battle system that was a old school FF game. That was the first main FF game to feature the active battle system I believe because X was turned base & XI was their first FF online game which I don't really count in this discussion.
Capt-FuzzyPants  +   818d ago
This game came out what over 2 years ago. This is getting ridiculous. I really wish people would move on and stop complaining about how bad of a game they thought it was. I didn't think it was bad at all just not a legendary game like many of its predecessors. People should start to focus on other games and hopefully you guys will give FF13-3 (yes its most likely coming) a fair shot before bashing the game endlessly and harshly like some people did with ff13-2.
elda  +   818d ago
I personally loved 13 played it four times from beginning to end,yes it did have its flaws & the story was a little confusing but I enjoyed it & I never really cared too much about any FF musical score but I loved FF-13 music some of it upbeat & some of it was touching & sad.FF-XIII-2 on the other hand would have been spot on with 13 had it had Lightning through the whole game,Summons,more human characters too recruit instead of monsters & a better story.This is just my opinion.

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