Matt Peckham writes:
"Long time ago, oh, say a year and a half ago, Sony director Phil Harrison called backward compatibility a 'core value.' Here's what he told GamePro in May 2006."
I was about to submit this. =/
Anyway it could be a possibility that Sony is dropping the 80gb all together and add the Backwards Compatability to the 40gb version and possibly stay with the same price $399.99 price tag or even reduce the price in the near future.
@TheChosenOne - I would be one of them. =(
i agree with you man but that leaves all the folks that bought the 40gb would be left out. I think they might add it through software emulation
A) Fix the compatibility and make it 100% compatible with all PS2 games and demos as well as PS1. or B) Get rid of backwards compatibility so they can get atleast a 5% increase on PS2s sold. If you have $600, it would be wise to by the 40GB PS3 and the slim PS2. You will have perfect compatibility with all 3 leaving your problems, solved!
that sony would drop the BC was clear from the day they announced the 40gb ps3. they even said it once or twice, and lets be honest most ps2 games are gettin a sequel or a alternativ, so why would anyone want to play ps2 games.
So if there is really no BC on any ps3 in the ear future, but you can still buy a cheap(they are really cheap now) ps2 to play ps2 games.
i have Bc but i havent used it once yet. there is enough nex gen to enjoy. =D
True but the fact that you can play PS2 games on a PS3 is what drives some costumers on to buying the console. It's just a plus, a plus that you can use it if you want to.
And who knows, the Blu-Ray lasers have reduced in production costs; Sony could add the BC on the 40gb and possibly still gain a little profit all together.
I have yet to use the BC on my 60gb ps3,if i want to play a ps2 game I use my ps2
I don't really see where the problems with Backwards compatibility is.
If you have a PS2, you still have the console.
If you didn't have a PS2, you have no library of games to worry about.
Mine has backwards compatibility and I use it for MGS and God of War, but it's not a feature I'd exactly miss.
Unfortunately for you, this is a feature that should be a part of the console since Sony were the ones making a big fit about it in the first place.
For me BC actually matters... Yeah I still have the PS2 and could connect it to play the games... But I don't want more and more older consoles under and around my TV...
The TV has a limited amount of connections (Or does someone know of a PS2 HDMI cable, I have some HDMI connections still free :P), but mostly I would like to donate my PS2 to a relative who's new to gaming and give a bunch of my games, but keep my most favourite ones and play those on the PS3... (I'm not parting with my best purchases!!! :P)
So no BC is preventing me from getting a PS3... Price and BC matter a lot to me to consider the purchase... The price is almost sorted now (no way would I manage to fork over the launch-price)... Now for the BC :)
we all know its staying. BC has always been their strength and they won't let XBOX have ANOTHER advantage. They should still be pissed about DMC 4.
I know I would be...
What do you mean pissed about DMC4? The fact that it's not backward compatible? Blakzhuk doesn't understand what you are saying. Unless of course...are you saying that Sony should be pissed that an IP they don't own went multiplatform so that Capcom could capitalize on the product and make gamers everywhere on both systems happy? They should be pissed about this?!!? YOU would be pissed about this!?!? Why be pissed about making something awesome available to as many gamers as you can?!
As the 40gb is selling very well even though it doesnt support BC, I believe Sony might decided to continue PS3's life cycle without BC as 2008 is really looking like a great year both in terms of software and hardware.
Sony has to decide where they stand regarding the BC question because at some point, they will have to choose their stand.
who cares? seriously the people who cry and complain about it are the people who are hardcore gamers and the people who will never think about playing a ps2 game.
Looking for BC. Get the 60GB model. As far as future models go you can thank the cheap skates for forcing sony to cut BC out in order to cut cost. Beggars can't be choosers. Lame article.
i thought my phone was great, now i can't put my new phone TYTN II off for a bit
its the tech world, it might be a core feature before, but now?
i like it when people think things never change...
For a reason PS3 is capable of emulating 100% of PSOne games. I quote myself from another thread:
"If Xbox 360 can emulate almost half of the original xbox titles when the processors and GPUs come from different companies, the Cell will be a lot more capable of emulating the Emotion Engine since both are RISC processors unlike the Celeron and Xenon which have different architectures; even more, the Graphics Synthesizer should be no problem for the RSX, since the GS is very weak compared to Xbox 1 GPU, the later which is an nVidia that has to be emulated by an ATI."
"Why else do you think that Sony posted jobs for the purpose of emulating previous consoles on next-gen consoles?"
The PS3 cant emulate the PS2, if it was possible, it would have been there from the start. That's why they had to put the chips in the PS3.
Its not going to happen.
The PS3 is already capable of emulating the Emotion Engine from the PS2. It is the graphics synthesizer that isn't currently emulated.
I don't think that it is fair to say that if PS3 were capable of emulating PS2 that it would have been there from the start. It wasn't necessary at the start.
but i still want flash card reader and BC for ps2 games on the 40 gb if they droope the 80gb
but i hope they dont
40gb is the only console version you can buy in the u.k and soon japan, i dont know but i assume thats the case in the rest of Europe to.
so more than likely the 60gb will go from the U.S market to, sony doesnt need multiple consoles with different sized hard drives you can put a larger one in yourself if you really want to.
I want backwards compatibility, and I was just seriously considering getting my PS3 in the next few months.
One of the main reasons I want it is for playing PS2 and PS1 games wirelessly and in high def. This will make me very angry if they do this, and I don't even know if I would want a PS3 anymore, considering the price tag and smaller game library.
If you're looking to play PS1 and PS2 games in High Def you're going to be sorely disappointed. The games play fine, but often look like crap. Especially PS1 games.
I second that Reburn!! Yup, the games when played on Hi-Def TV looks a little too stretched. Currently finishing Final Fantasy XIII right now using my 60gig PS3 and it took me a while "to get over" with the stretched looks. Oh, the price of technology change...
How many times per week do you actually use the backwards compatibility for your PS3. I rarely use it, I have the 60gb one and I don't play too many PS2 or PS1 games on it. I honestly think it's one of those things people really want, but when they get it, they don't do anything with it.
The backwards compatibility on PS3 sucks anyway PS2 games on it look worse than a PS1 game really jaggy
If Sony does drop PS2 BC, then they should give the PS2 a price cut.
This is just all a huge mess. I'm glad I got a 60GB. (and I just hope it lasts through the years)
Can't agree with you more there. How ironic that for the PS3, the best version of the console is the first one released.
What confuses me is that Sony hs always made BC a priority and ripped MS when the 360 was not fully BC with the 360. So when I got my PS3 back last February I just new I was going to be able to play my PS2 and PS1 games on it.
I can't believe how many "gamers" are willing to give Sony a pass on the BC issue. Maybe you've all already played every game in the PS2 library, but I haven't. I just picked up Haunting Ground & Manhunt last Thursday. Haven't started playing them yet though because I have a couple missions left to knock off in Second Sight for the GameCube which I happen to be playing on my Wii. BC does matter because TVs have a limited number of inputs & a coffee table can't hold an infinite number of controllers & remotes. Maybe BC doesn't matter to you because you're not "gamers" at all, but a pack of vindictive videophiles trying to enact revenge upon "gamers" because your PS3 came with a Sixaxis instead of a Blu-ray Remote.
I understand what you're saying. Sony's the one that made the big deal about BC and Xbox 360's lack of it, and the fanboy brigade was out in full force bashing on it. Now that Sony's dropping BC support all we see is "if you want to play PS2 games keep your PS2".
Who cares?I bought my PS3 to play next-gen games;)
I wish they would update it for the 80GB (60GB EU) so it would play them as good as the PS2!
I'm tired of these ridiculous amount of SKU's, changing hardware specs and available models.
SONY, JUST DROP THE DAMN PRICE ALREADY, STOP REMOVING SKUS AND FEATURES, IT ANGERS YOUR CUSTOMERS.
The PS3 has an awesome price!
I just bought the 80gig and every ps2 game I put in ran smooth.
BC is a pretty big deal to me, I don't own a console (last one I bought was a SNES and it's been all PC since then), but if I were to choose a current gen console it would be a PS3 mainly because of blu-ray support and backward compatibility.
Even though I don't have a huge back catalog of PS2 games my friends do, and with games like God of War 2 coming out as well as the odd casual interest in games like GTA:Vice city stories it really is a a major selling point for some people.
I'm still more likely to buy a ps3 over an 360 (though in reality I'll probably buy neither), but it does dampen the potential deal somewhat.
I guess at least Sony didn't promise backward computability on a model, and then go back on that promise after a whole bunch of fans sold their ps2/1. They've gone back on one of their value statements to reflect a perceived shift in consumer needs, but this has not greatly effected or shortchanged any adopters of the console.
I'm glad my PS3 has backwards compatibility, otherwise I wouldn't have been able to play Global Defence Force or Metal Slug Anthology. I also still play Capcom's Versus series (Marvel, SNK) from time to time.
By the way, that stretching thing something mentioned, you can turn off the stretching. Well, you can on my PS3 anyway...
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