Submitted by Rick_Addition 1224d ago | news

IGN: "Nintendo" is the best game developer of all time

Over the past few days, IGN was listing the top 50 manufacturers of video games of all time, and the first and only, Nintendo EAD came out on top. Nintendo EAD (Entertainment Analysis and Development) is responsible for some of the most influential video franchises in the history of games, including Super Mario Bros., Donkey Kong, Metroid, Pikmin and The Legend of Zelda. (3DS, Donkey Kong , Nintendo, Nintendo DS, Super Mario, The Legend of Zelda, Wii, Wii U)

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Morrigan-Aensland  +   1224d ago
Wicked, its opposite day. I should wear my clothes inside out also.

Pong on the Atari with a lot of games were polished to where they had minimal to little hiccups while playing so I guess those games are technical feat. Angry birds is polished without any problems also which is amazing. I can't believe games like god of war 3 which runs more than 200 times the coding of the most advanced Wii games suffers from minimal hiccups. That's sucks and must mean that the Atari is better than most systems out today since it has a lot of simple coded games that runs smooth
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ronin4life  +   1224d ago
I don't think many Atari games were all that good.
Nintendo rarely makes games lacking in quality, from a play and product point of view(bugs and the like) and have been doing so consistently for more than 25 years.

So no, I think opposite day is still aways off. Keep your clothes the way they are. ^_^;
xursz  +   1224d ago
Anyone remember Pokemon Battle Revolution?
Hisiru  +   1224d ago
Well, it's a matter of taste/opinion. Really.
JoySticksFTW  +   1223d ago
Loved Atari 2600!

Break-out, Ms. Pac-man, Vanguard, and River Raid were my favorites :)

I still miss joysticks and paddles

Paddles would be great for games like MAgic Orb and Arkanoid.

And I'd love an old school joystick for Pac-man Championship DX

As for Nintendo, their games are just consistently fun.
ShinMaster  +   1223d ago
Mario games, while solid, are pretty simple.
I grew up playing Mario games and I feel like Nintendo hasn't done anything special in a while. Therefore "of all time" is a very subjective term.
Behind that Mario charm, the Galaxy games are pretty bland. Characters, story, mechanics, unnecessary motion controls, etc are just uninteresting and simple. Except for the visual design. Maybe people got carried away because it's one of the few good Wii core exclusives? Or maybe it's just a great game by only Wii standards.
I'm not sure.

But anyway, that's why I liked NewSMB better, because at least it's honest.
It stays more true to Mario gameplay and pacing, and doesn't try to make an adventure out of the same simple principle and it's fun.
I just wish there was more variation in its design. Because the 3DS and Wii U versions look very similar to the previous version, unlike Mario games in the past (SMB, SMB3 SMW).

IMO all the RPG Mario games(on consoles and handhelds) are better than all other recent Mario games because they have more depth!

Game journalists and reviewers are people too. And if they're gamers like everyone, then they can be fans and fanboys like everyone else, stealth or blatant.

Some people cite review scores to prove a game to be superior. But those same people may also cite review scores to show that a certain game is overrated.
Scores are full of contradictions, from the reviewers to the fanbase. So they're not definitive at all. They're extremely subjective, just like other people's opinions.
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StraightPath  +   1224d ago
Nintendo creates games that out perform n quality not atched in games,like zelda or mario by any,other developer. Just for info mario galaxy highest rated game this gen.
BitbyDeath  +   1224d ago
Actually Metacritic gave that to GTAIV on PS3.
2nd is GTAIV on the 360 and third is Super Mario Galaxy

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AO1JMM  +   1223d ago

Grand Theft Auto IV

User: 7.9

Super Mario Galaxy

User: 8.9

Super Mario Galaxy 2

User: 9.3

What was that again about GTAIV?
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Eyeco  +   1223d ago
GTA4 is the exact reason why i dont look at metacritic, really the highest rated game i thought it was a monotonous ,overrated piece of A$$
ShinMaster  +   1223d ago
Ok, so everyone above agrees that Metacritic and average reviews don't matter.
Since obviously being a big-name title gives you an advantage.

So I suggest people stop citing scores to make a point.
Games are overrated and underrated depending on your taste and perspective. There is no definitive score.
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BitbyDeath  +   1223d ago

Your looking at the wrong column, that is just the user scores. (Meaning non-official scores that you or i could get in and adjust)

GTAIV got 98 averaged from reviews
Super Mario Galaxy got 97
MEsoJD  +   1224d ago
Nintendo can make some innovative/creative games, but they've gone downhill for me after the N64. Sony or should I saw their studios have had better consistency over the years in my opinion. Just ask my games collection : p
miyamoto  +   1223d ago
Naughty Dog & Media Molecule brought me back to gaming after the Sega Dreamcast.
metroid32  +   1222d ago
your dreaming Nintendo make flawless games with amazing graphics and gameplay with faultless animations.
MEsoJD  +   1222d ago

I'm sorry if this comes off as offensive, but your delusional or just a fanboy if you honestly think that...
morkendo23  +   1224d ago
im just glad nintendo did not go the FPS AN MULTIPLAYER only route which MS and SONY is stuck in. Generation of same games over an over an over an over an over an over thank GOD for nintendo
NINTENDO always have VARIETY!!!! i hope ol school gaming make a come back.
those of you dont know what variety mean it mean more than just crapfest FPS and MULTIPLAYER, Zombie ONLINE only gaming. a selection of different games RPG'S,ACTION,PLATFORMER,SI DESCROLLING,RACING....
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miyamoto  +   1223d ago
" im just glad nintendo did not go the FPS AN MULTIPLAYER only route which MS and SONY is stuck in."

Metroid Prime Trilogy(2002-2009)& CoD games for the Wii says hi, Captain N.
AdvanceWarsSgt  +   1223d ago
Funny, I don't recall CoD being made by Nintendo. Yet I'm pretty sure you already knew that.
Psycho_PS3Truthh  +   1224d ago
Sony as produce the PS1, 2 and 3 with the most prestigious games ever created, nintendo realize that sony is just too powerful with delivering great games so they decided to go the casual root and betray there fans with inferior products because they know sony is not capable of selling inferior products to human beings.

I am a happy user of the PS3 within society because they have all the games that mankind will ever need and come next generation every single gaming company will bow down and honor the PS4 as greatest console for all eternity and honor sony as the kings of developing games and mankind will live happy for all eternity within the earth.
DragonKnight  +   1224d ago
I really think that's enough of your gimmick now, seriously.
yabhero  +   1224d ago
You fake! The real guy on IGN loves Nintendo as much as Sony, :)
BanditGamer  +   1223d ago
ha2e48  +   1223d ago
"To human beings" "within society" "within the earth" you do not sound smart or special, you Sound like a f*ck tard.
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n4f  +   1222d ago
your a happy ps3 yet you seem insecure.
ChickeyCantor  +   1223d ago
"Wicked, its opposite day. I should wear my clothes inside out also. "

No, opposite day would imply you don't wear clothes at all.

If you don't know the rules. Don't play the game.
PopRocks359  +   1224d ago | Well said
Oy. Let the mudslinging begin.

I would agree with the sentiment if only because every Nintendo makes is always polished to a brittle shine. Take Wind Waker's graphics or the fluidity of Mario Galaxy's gameplay for example. There's more I could list but it would make the comment ho on forever.

Yeah, yeah, I know I'll be accused of being an obsessed fanboy. I guess if that's how people wish to debate then that's fine. But what can I say for you, I'm just a fan of the games they make; I'm no different from any fan of Sony's who will argue for their case or a fan of Microsoft's. I honestly would like to know how that's a bad thing.
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-Mika-  +   1224d ago
Of course their game are going to be polished because their not drastically ADDING anything to their franchises. It basically the same elements and rarely little changes. Now i know most game developers do this but they have been doing THIS for neary 2 decades. At-least other game companies create a bunch of new ips in between.

Im not trolling or being a fanboy but im just really tired of seeing people praising nintendo games like their god when they're not really anything special.

Awesome post. Agree 100%
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Sgt_Slaughter  +   1224d ago
Not adding anything? Most Nintendo games, mainly Mario, are different.

From SMB 1, 2, and 3, to World to Land to 64 to Sunshine to Galaxy to New SMB Wii to whatever I forgot in-terms of main Mario Games, all of these are very different for each other, so nice try.
Hisiru  +   1224d ago
So youre saying that NSMB is similar to Super Mario World and Mario Galaxy is similar to Mario 64 with only a few additions.

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Devinchi33  +   1224d ago
I'd take a game that's completely polished over a radically new, but bug-ridden game any day. Add as many bells and whistles as you want; even the greatest games lose their appeal when you drop framerates, break questlines, or spy enemies phasing through floors and shooting at walls.
TheDivine  +   1223d ago
No even non mario and zelda titles are head of the pack in their genre. Mk7 on 3ds has 32 tracks, online mp, and is near flawless outside of the one glitch. Xenoblade is on the wii and still outshined every jrpg this gen bar Lost Odyssey (i love turn based). Metroid Prime was a revelution compared to Super Metroid. Eternal Darkness, The Last Story, Star Fox 64/Adventures, Goldeneye, SSB, Kirby, Kid Icarus Uprising (brand new and like nothing on the market and its polished to high heaven with enough content to sink the titanic). Nintendo might be known for a couple games but they have more ip's than anyone and almost every single one is top notch. They try new stuff (wii sports, mii's, tablet controller, glasses free 3d exc) and they arent afraid to change it up and take beloved franchises like Mario and make it and rpg, take Zelda and make it cel shaded and cartoony and take all their characters and throw them together to fight it out. Nobody can compare to Nintendo. Even Sony with all their games had most of their well known PS games made by 3rd parties like FF7, RE, MGS where Nintendo is mostly in house. They are iconic.
live2play  +   1224d ago
you cant spell ignorant without IG- wait nintendo you say?
ok contine
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CouldHaveYelledUiiW  +   1224d ago
Lol- I noticed that too. But since both sides can be accused of picking and choosing, I thought it best just to let it be.

In this case, it kind of is a throw-back to all of the people who used IGN articles as a way to Dis Nintendo- now they no longer believe.

But it does work the other way as well.
CouldHaveYelledUiiW  +   1224d ago
Lol- I noticed that too. But since both sides can be accused of picking and choosing, I thought it best just to let it be.

In this case, it kind of is a throw-back to all of the people who used IGN articles as a way to Dis Nintendo- now, they no longer believe IGN.

But it does work the other way as well.
SilentNegotiator  +   1223d ago
"or the fluidity of Mario Galaxy's gameplay"


I'm surely not the only one that had the control stick constantly change what direction it sent you in every time you stopped on the wrong spot.

Or ran into something because the camera was stalking you from behind the planet's horizon instead of giving you a proper view.

Or tried hitting the buttons that adjust the camera and wonder if absolutely anything happened.

Or become frustrated with the stars you "grab" to go towards when floating because despite becoming visible to you, were "out of reach" of your magic, with no real indications of the length of reach.

Or tried to adjust the camera on a flat plane and was denied for whatever arbitrary reason.

Sony/MS would never in a million years have the highest rated game(s) of the generation if all they changed were the characters in the SMG games. They would actually be called on these issues.
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krazykombatant  +   1223d ago
The camera is lakitu, if it can't move a certain direction its due to the map design or something is obstructing the camera. Got that fanboy itch huh???

Surely, sony devs deserve their dues, but no uncharted will ever out-do mario or the the nintendo brands.

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SilentNegotiator  +   1223d ago
"The camera is lakitu, if it can't move a certain direction its due to the map design or something is obstructing the camera. Got that fanboy itch huh???"

So a bad camera is justified if they make a character hold the camera?

Sounds legit.

Someone certainly has a "fanboy itch" obscuring their logic, and it isn't the person considering actual game design instead of apologizing with backwards logic that a character needs to hold the game perspective in place.
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-Mika-  +   1224d ago
You really can't spell ignorant without IGN. Nintendo is not the best game developer of all time. Maybe if this was the 90s but in 2012. Heck no!. Pushing out the same ip with little gameplay changes in between does not make them the best.

Sony on the other hand should be #1. Im not even being a fanboy when i say that. They created so many new ip this gen ALONE that are really fun and memorable. Heavy rain,Uncharted,Folklore,Fat princess,Infamous,Pixel junk,Escape plan and im pretty sure im forgetting more but that shows how awesome sony is as a game developer. All of the agme they released have been really great and it sad that other people don't realize it. They should of honestly been #1.
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Shok  +   1224d ago
I like Sony too, but creating new IPs doesn't automatically make you a great developer. Many of these new IPs you speak of aren't up to par with already-established IPs such as Metal Gear and God of War. Only Uncharted has actually stood up to the already-existing IPs that belong to Sony.

Infamous was good, Resistance was good, yes, but could we have done without those games? Definitely. Could we have done without Metal Gear and God of War? No lol.

And while this is a completely opinionated matter, when you add in the fact that Nintendo's games are the highest-rated AND highest selling of all time, it's hard to argue against this. Nobody has more accolades than Nintendo.
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Moncole  +   1224d ago
MGS isn't a Sony series so it's a bad example.
GuyManDude  +   1224d ago
I would add LittleBigPlanet to Uncharted for great current-gen IPs. Infamous is close, but not quite "great". Very good, but not quite great.

I'd also be inclined to put the "Hawk" series up there (Warhawk & Starhawk). They're fantastic multiplayer games, and Stawhawk was lauded by critics as one of the best online shooters around. But it's so different that no one gives it a chance, and that's unfortunate. Very fun games though, and a very dedicated online community.
Almir908  +   1224d ago
You do realize that Nintendo wii games have certain limitations that Ps3 doesn't have. Like using up most of it's hardwares power. So developing a game like Super mario galaxy takes smaller effort than say games like Uncharted because uncharted uses up more resources. I can gaurantee if Mario was on the Ps3 it would not be rated as high as it got. SMG2 came out in 2010 but what game won the most GOTY awards in 2010? Red dead redemption a game on superior hardware. So reviews and ratings mean nothing when those reviewers picked Red dead to be GOTY. The new legend of zelda skyward sword came out 2011 yet despite it's score being higher than Uncharted 3, Uncharted 3 still received more GOTY awards. Although the game sells more it does not make it a better game. As for MGS that IP doesn't belong to SONY. As for which system provided more highly rated games this generation than it would be SONY hands down. So to say that Nintendo is the best developer? No. I believe Valve or Naughty Dog deserves that type of recognition.
miyamoto  +   1223d ago
"There is no accounting for taste."
AO1JMM  +   1223d ago
How many of those does Sony actually own the IP?
grailly  +   1224d ago
unfortunately, they counted every sony studio on their list separately, so sony couldn't be number 1. I was shocked to see japan studio in 40th place or so. They are one on my fav studios, every game they put out is so fresh and innovative.

japan studio #47
santa monica studio #40
polyphony #24
naughty dog #16

they did separate retro studio, game freak, HAL and intelligent systems from nintendo, though

It's an "all-time best studio" list, so it includes companies that do not exist anymore or that aren't that great anymore. I'm not sure how to take it, sure they pushed gaming back then, but have proven that they weren't able to keep up the quality, that would also make this list rather rigid for newer studios.

funny, I have the impression that square-enix wasn't there but enix and squaresoft were lol
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live2play  +   1224d ago
what? nintendo actually creates the games
naughty dog made uncharted not "SONY"
sucker punch interactive made infamous not "SONY"
so on so forth

they are talking about developers not the company

in this case it just so happens that the company develops games
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darkgod  +   1224d ago
UM WTF sony number one? it tas ^ years for a zelda to come outand we get like % uncharteds in 6 years. so yeah cut the trash talk sony is not even close to nuber one.
FinalomegaS  +   1223d ago
You speak madness on a song Site lol
darkgod  +   1223d ago
man my grammer was worst then ever on that post lol
FinalomegaS  +   1223d ago
Jeez the blackberry auto word really helped me outtbere "not!"
Instigator  +   1224d ago
The difference is that the games Sony get the highest honor for is only published by them for the most part, but was developed by a lot of great 2nd party studios who also made the list. The part of Nintendo IGN titled the best developer is their Entertainment and Analysis Division (EAD) which develops the likes of Mario and Zelda in-house. Now it's all opinions, but I really don't think SCE Japan Studio quite measures up to Nintendo EAD.

Just watch the video IGN embedded on their Nintendo entry, and you'll get a good feel why Nintendo can be regarded the best after 30 years in the game: http://www.ign.com/top/vide... .
Sono421  +   1224d ago
Okay let me just say this first, I own a PS3, I play it almost daily after work, I enjoy it very much along with the many games Sony has brought me, and i'm a PS+ member, I already plan on buying the next Playstation and I don't know a thing about it, but I am because I believe Sony knows what they're doing.

Okay now with that said let me just point out something wrong with your comment. Well first off simply coming up with new IPs doesn't qualify you for best game developer, considering the requirements are in the title "developer" plenty of people can come up with concepts for games but actually developing them, making sure they work perfect with no bugs or glitches, gameplay flows perfect at all times with a steady frame rate, everything is clipped where it is needed to be, and so on... all of this has to be taken into account when considering who is the "Best developer of all time". (by the way I think the statement should be changed anyway to "Best developer so far" or something along those lines) Nintendo does an excellent job of putting out quality games with little to no hiccups. I'm not saying Sony is bad at this they are great too, but I used to be in a glitching clan (Yes there are such things) we would play games simply to find glitches, we almost made it to beta testing but didn't, mainly because our leader F***ed up, but anyways we would find very little to no glitches in Nintendo games no matter how hard we tried and I give Nintendo props for that. Sorry for seeming like a rant but Nintendo deserves more credit than you guys are giving them.

For those who don't believe the PS3 thing go ahead and message me on PSN my name on there is the same as on here -Sono421
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Knushwood Butt  +   1223d ago
The irony is that Nintendo let a lot of third parties develop their games: Nintendo just publish them.

If you want to praise them as an extremely successful publisher, then fine.
FinalomegaS  +   1223d ago
You are talking about a small percentage.

This is about EAD and what they have a accomplished, not like having Namco or capcom develop some of their franchises.
AdvanceWarsSgt  +   1223d ago
Don't bother with commenters like Knushwood. They get absolutely infuriated when any form of praise is thrown in Nintendo's direction, so their comments will be strictly from a biased standpoint.
Knushwood Butt  +   1222d ago
Either you're delusional or you simply don't know the reality.

Look at the Wii games published by Nintendo in 2012:


Rhythm Heaven Fever
PokéPark 2: Wonders Beyond
Mario Party 9
Kiki Trick (Japan only)[17]
Xenoblade Chronicles
Project Zero II: Wii Edition
The Last Story
New Play Control! Pikmin 2

8 games, and only 3 of them developed by Nintendo...

I guess you might want to re-think that comment about, 'small percentage'.
LX-General-Kaos  +   1224d ago
Nintendo is by far the greatest videogame development studio in the history of our hobby.

For decades Nintendo has delivered unrivaled, flawless gaming experiences to the Elite Nintendo supporter. Generation by generation since the beginning of gaming time. Consisting of some of the highest rated, and greatest selling videogames of all time.

Each generation Nintendo has delivered a reliable, and powerful console canvas. Built on the foundation of the greatest console in house exclusive experiences ever witnessed by man. Which consist of new IPs, and some of the longest running successful franchise characters, and worlds available on the market today.

The Nintendo experience is a magical experience from beginning to end. An experience that can only be rivaled by the very best of Pixar, and Walt Disney film. The only place where you can participate in a true game console, and the number 1 handheld experience on the market today. All which consist of bleeding edge technology, innovative ideas, and all around support from Nintendo exclusive titles. The very same titles that saved this industry and set new standards in how we experience videogames today.

Videogames come and go.. But the Nintendo experience lasts a life time. From the original Nintendo Entertainment System, to the soon to be released Nintendo Wii U entertainment system. The tradition of supreme, top of the line Nintendo caliber gaming carries on. I am sure each and every one of you Nintendo Elites here today have multiple story's of magical experiences. Experiences that could have only been possible within the Nintendo product line. Looking very much forward to see what the house that Mario built brings to the consumer next.

Have a blessed day and happy gaming.

Rated E For Everyone
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GuyManDude  +   1224d ago
As a gamer for 25 years who's owned an NES, Genesis, PS1, PS2, and PS3 (and played everything else but Saturn), Nintendo is the GOAT hands down.

I love me my Sony games today, but no one has had as many hit games as Nintendo. That's not a knock against anyone else, but rather a testament to the longevity of Nintendo. They've been around longer than just about everyone, and they've managed to keep their projects' quality high over the years (although in my opinion their craftsmanship dropped off a bit with the Wii).

SCE as a whole comes close, but they're not quite there yet. We have to keep in mind that IPs like Metal Gear Solid, Ratchet & Clank, Devil May Cry, and Heavy Rain were not developed by studios owned by Sony. They're exclusive (although DMC isn't anymore), but those guys aren't under SCE's umbrella.

If Nintendo doesn't start making some fresh IPs soon, they could slip down. Only time will tell.
LX-General-Kaos  +   1224d ago
Nintendo does make new IPs, but they are often ignored by the internet comment section.

I do agree with pretty much everything else you have mentioned. Its good to see another honorable Nintendo Elite supporter. I hope that with the future release of the Nintendo Wii U entertainment system, or the Nintendo 3DS entertainment system (available now) that you find a new Nintendo IP that tickles your fancy.

Rated E For Everyone
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vallencer  +   1224d ago
In all fairness Nintendo has been around longer than anyone alive today they started out as a trading card company in the late 1800's. I get what you mean though i just wanted to put my two cents in lol.
GuyManDude  +   1224d ago

Yeah I guess I should have specified: I want to see Nintendo make the next new Mario. The next Link. The next Samus. I don't mean one of each, but the next great Nintendo character that we'll remember for decades to come. I want that IP.

I also DEMAND a new and awesome Star Fox game. Star Fox 64 was my favorite N64 game. Whenever I went to a friend's house I got a good dose of Star Fox. And I don't think anyone has made a multiplayer mode that fun with such few options. There really isn't anything to it (two maps I think and a few evasive maneuvers), but damn was it fun 4 player split screen.
LX-General-Kaos  +   1224d ago
Starfox 64 was probably my most played game on that platform.

But my favorite all time game for the Nintendo 64 entertainment system is Mario 64. The most revolutionary platform title ever created. Only to be bested be Super Mario Galaxy in my opinion.
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Psycho_PS3Truthh  +   1224d ago
I might like the Wiiu controller but the Wii as been a failure to human kind this generation with prehistoric graphics and lack of third party support, infact the first party games were just completely reboots of mario and zelda that are announce as sequels HAHA. Nintendo is far from the best at developing games are competing againt the ultimate console the PS3.

Nintendo is possible the best at making new controllers but not at making civilize games.
LX-General-Kaos  +   1224d ago

You may not appreciate the legendary contributions that the Nintendo Wii entertainment system blessed the community with. But at the end of the day nobodys negative opinion matters on the subject.

Nintendo won...

If it were not for the masterful innovations of the Nintendo product line. You would not be able to play Rival exclusives with motion controls. Nintendo forced change to the way your brand of choice does business. Which will also continue well into next generation.

axisofweevils below described the situation better than I could, and made it easy as day to understand.

Rated E for Everyone
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WeskerChildReborned  +   1224d ago
Well thats a big claim. I think Sony has the best developers in making unique games that you pretty much can't see on any other console.
ronin4life  +   1224d ago
Perhaps... but so does Nintendo, and on top of that they also make games themselves.^_^;
darkgod  +   1224d ago
no one maks games like uncharted? and go of war? theres a few like nchate an toooons like god of war.
Sono421  +   1224d ago
I hate to disagree with you Wesker because you seem pretty level minded and pretty intelligent but could you read my comment up there? ^ I just don't feel like posting pretty much the exact same thing twice :/
linkratos  +   1223d ago
I agree Sony's PS3 platform has many great games and diverse offering to choose from, but do you not understand what this list is? Developers, not publishers or platforms.

Nintendo EAD is the greatest game developer of all time, no question. If you combined all the Sony developers as one then you would have an argument.

Thanks for not reading the article or even the premise of it.
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dubal-e  +   1224d ago
Let this be a lesson to IGN. Tell the truth and haters will come out in bunches.
xursz  +   1224d ago
It's more opinion than "truth". Kudos to Nintendo for winning such an 'award'.
majiebeast  +   1224d ago
Dont agree if this was the snes age then yes. But right now no, Nintendo doesnt do many new IP's and keeps betting on the same old franchises for almost 2 decades now. Its getting old and only people who have been wearing nostalgia goggles dont think Mario is milked to death like what are we on now 5 games in 18months?
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ronin4life  +   1224d ago
When you aren't paying attention, of course you can say those things.
If you have been paying attention,you would have noticed the multiple eshop releases and(unfortunately) Japan exclusive IPS that they have been consistently making all this time.

And remember: the last story is Nintendo too, as they invested heavily in it with money AND direct influence.
thehitman  +   1224d ago
To be able to milk the same franchises for almost 15+ years and still remain profitable they have to be the best lol.
Sgt_Slaughter  +   1224d ago
You have Hitman as your avatar, which had 4 releases in 5 1/2 years, so if you want Nintendo for milking, then bash that AND most franchises made today.

Yes, Nintendo milks some franchises but they are quality games that aren't just games from 5 years ago with new paint over it A.K.A CoD.
thehitman  +   1224d ago
Lol SOME franchises and its easy to pick out CoD but CoD is NOTHING compared to what nintendo does with mario and other games. Mario party 1-9 perfect example and they milk much more than that. For me to list all the franchises and the games milked every year I would need more than what n4g would allow me to put in 1 reply. Nintendo wrote the book on milking, perfected it and still flaunts it.

Also my avatar I picked because its the best pic to associate with my name and not the game.
ronin4life  +   1224d ago
@the hitman
I actually did a write up months back of all the games Nintendo released this gen within given franchises(an old comment here on n4g before e3)
Nintendo is on par, if not better than their competitors in regards to "milking", making the same if not fewer milked games than everyone else.

Look at this:

Halo: 4 games this gen

Uncharted 4 games in 1 gen

Mario: 2~3 game types divided as follows:
3d land:1(can count as being the same as galaxy if you want)
And than there is super paper mario if you want 2~4 different game types...
For a total of 6~7 games... a lot, but that's like adding up resistance, uncharted and killzone.(which would come out to 10 games btw)

Remember: just because mario is in it doesn't make it the same game...
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ALLWRONG  +   1224d ago
You mean like Hitman, or SOCOM(20), or Madden, CoD, Battlefield, Resident Evil, Ratchet and Clank, Metal Gear, Halo, Final Fantasy, Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat and on and on?

Check your own cows first
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linkratos  +   1223d ago
You are a dumbass. If you really think what Mario does is as bad as Call of Duty you are insane. CoD is literally the same game over and over for the past 6 years. Mario games come out once or twice a generation and are all unique. Try and tell me that Mario 1, 2, 3, World, 64, Galaxy, Sunshine, Yoshi's Island are all the same game repackaged. The New Marios are the only ones where you could make such an argument.
DivineAssault  +   1224d ago
I agree.. Nintendo is the best @ development.. i jus wish they would use that wonderful gift to make games like they used to.. Them & rare made some KILLER games like KILLER INSTINCT.. but those days are gone now so whatever.. Hopefully wii u gets new IPs from them..
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vallencer  +   1224d ago
I find most peoples comments on her to be funny. The list is about all time best GAME developers. In case you've been living under a rock the last 27 years Nintendo themselves have consistently put out amazing games regardless if you want to pull the "all they do is milk their series cause mario hasn't changed in xx years." card. There is no denying that Mario no matter how many there have been or Zelda and Metroids there have been are ALL good consistently. So even if you don't agree you have to be able to see that Nintendo deserves the number one spot more than anyone regardless of what your feelings are towards the Wii or the Wii U or hell anything that Nintendo has done.
FinalomegaS  +   1223d ago
This is N4G, they go with the topic. Not the details :p

Remember, we have many that think Sony developed many of those ps3 games. As far as I can see there's a developer and a publishers.

SO is Nintendo getting credit for many 3rd party games they are publishing on the WiiU?
nintendojunkie28  +   1224d ago
Also,in today's headlines..

....The sun rises in the east and then sets in the west.
Psycho_PS3Truthh  +   1224d ago
Nintendo cannot be the best gaming company in the world when uncharted, MG3, God of war and grand tourismo is not found on the Wii. The Wii is the most inferior technological device this generation and it as bowed out of producing civilize games for us human beings.

The PS3 is the only gaming platform that delivers civilize gaming for the core audience.
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nintendojunkie28  +   1224d ago
LOL!...I'm just imagining you sipping tea with your pinky finger up,sitting down for a round of civilized gaming.
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yabhero  +   1224d ago
I just got a PS3 and beat Uncharted 2 and started 3... Two of the best games I have ever played. Zelda SS is still a little bit better like maybe .1
It's okay though, you're and impostor, the real guy loves Nintendo
axisofweevils  +   1224d ago | Well said
Yep. Nintendo are the best. You can't argue with facts.

Highest rated game of all time.
Highest rated game this gen.
Second highest rated game this gen.
Highest rated handheld game this gen.
Best selling games this gen.
Best selling console this gen.
Best selling handheld this gen.
Best selling handheld last gen.
LX-General-Kaos  +   1224d ago
well said
smashcrashbash  +   1224d ago
Well no point in arguing. No matter what evidence you put forward since this is a Nintendo article you will get mobbed with disagrees if you say otherwise.So best just to let it go before you get your throat cut.I once told someone that Okami was better then Zelda by a mile and he almost wanted to break my neck for saying it.
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ronin4life  +   1224d ago
It's like that in every section of n4g... only in the past 3 or so months has the Nintendo section started to get really like this though. Not that that makes it okay or justified, but people are crazy here...=_=;

And while I won't throw my hat into the ring on Zelda vs Okami(haven't played enough okami,though it is pretty good so far) I know they are both well loved franchises with solid entries and many fans, so obviously "better " is subjective... sadly people don't always get that. @.@;
ALLWRONG  +   1224d ago
mamotte  +   1224d ago
All these kind of articles from now on must start with "in my/our opinion..." just because you cant please everyone. Some people will arge it's sony, because they love sony's games and cant believe there are other kind of gamers wich are not'em. Some people will arge it's nintendo, because they love nintendo's games and cant believe there are other kind of gamers wich are not'em. Some other people will name other companies, so it's really pointless, one does not simply get loved by anyone.

Now, in my personal opinion, my favorite developer of all time is the old Rareware. The one that gave us the DKC trilogy, Killer Instinct, Conker's Bad Fur Day, Blastcorps, Jet Force Gemini, Goldeneye... oh, those were good days. How I miss you, Rare...
Kran  +   1223d ago
They also said Capcom was 2nd best.

Don't make me laugh!
mike1up  +   1223d ago
In the words of Bret "The Hitman" Hart:

"The best there is...

The best there was...

And the best there ever will be!".
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nerdkiller  +   1223d ago
i agree they r but as of right now no maybe for the wii u they may be back on top
frostedjuly  +   1223d ago
Xperia_ion  +   1223d ago
If you feel that way, opinions are awesome especially when its your own.
wenaldy  +   1223d ago
Its their opinon, let them be..
iamnsuperman  +   1223d ago
I personally disagree. Nintendo has produced some high quality games with some of them showing innovation. However Nintendo is lacking in one key area (well to me anyway) which is character development and relying to heavily on characters that have been created many years ago. It isn't necessarily a bad thing to keep using the same characters for different games however I would heavily criticize them for doing it. It is a shame we see this mario game, this zelda game.... They need to move away. Show something completely different
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NYC_Gamer  +   1223d ago
I don't think Nintendo is the best developer since that company is very limited on character/franchise creation.They're still pumping out the same franchises from over 20 years ago with spin-offs...The best developers don't play it safe they take risk to bring gamers something fresh and unique worth playing....
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PopRocks359  +   1223d ago
So it has nothing to do with how good the games are, just whether or not it's a new IP?

If anything I think it should be seen as a testament that Nintendo has managed to keep Mario alive and very healthy for the past 25+ years.
NYC_Gamer  +   1223d ago
I don't give them full credit because it's much easier to depend on franchises that are already successful than to create fresh ones...Nintendo is a good developer...But the best?nope,because they limit themselves instead of trying expand and stay fresh and create brand new titles that fans could enjoy...
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PopRocks359  +   1223d ago
Use Smash Bros. as an example of Nintendo attempting to branch out.

Nintendo had Marth and Roy of the Fire Emblem franchise in Super Smash Bros. Melee. Lo and behold Fire Emblem games started coming to the US during that generation and onward.

Notice how Fire Emblem is not a mega seller. In fact, the announcement of the latest game on the 3DS was casually mentioned by Reggie Fils-Aime AFTER the E3 presentation.

I've made this point before and I'll make it again; if you want Nintendo to take risks on newer and more unique experiences, people need to support them.

Dillon's Rolling Western
Sakura Samurai
Mighty Switch Force

^These are three unique experiences available in Nintendo's 3DS eShop. Two of them are brand new IPs and they're all exclusive to Nintendo's platform. None of them are mega sellers (albeit a couple of them sold pretty well from what I read).

I say again, you want new experiences? You need to support them. Don't blame Nintendo for playing it safe when the consumers in the industry clearly give them every reason to.
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Stallion  +   1223d ago
Its not that bad a list, the only completly WTF outrageous thing is LUCASARTS IS 11???? WTF??? How is Bioware behind Lucasarts when Bioware is the one who made the greatest Star Wars game yet? Da fuck?
FinalomegaS  +   1223d ago
Only one way to settle this on n4g.

Have a vote (all multiple accounts will void the main account vote)

Best game developers of all time from the past 30 years.

Pretty sure we put ms & Sony on the list,we'll see a majority vote on one of them (guessing the later )

Do we have the option to create a vote Page like the rumor vote?

This vote would pretty much be an epic one ( cheaters will be banned )

Still working on the idea of how to do it as our mods aren't very active =/
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Sugreev2001  +   1223d ago
I disagree.While I would have said the same in the 90's,but times have changed.Developer-wise,I wouldn't even put them on my Top 5.
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