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IGN: "Nintendo" is the best game developer of all time

Over the past few days, IGN was listing the top 50 manufacturers of video games of all time, and the first and only, Nintendo EAD came out on top. Nintendo EAD (Entertainment Analysis and Development) is responsible for some of the most influential video franchises in the history of games, including Super Mario Bros., Donkey Kong, Metroid, Pikmin and The Legend of Zelda.

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Morrigan-Aensland1435d ago (Edited 1435d ago )

Wicked, its opposite day. I should wear my clothes inside out also.

Pong on the Atari with a lot of games were polished to where they had minimal to little hiccups while playing so I guess those games are technical feat. Angry birds is polished without any problems also which is amazing. I can't believe games like god of war 3 which runs more than 200 times the coding of the most advanced Wii games suffers from minimal hiccups. That's sucks and must mean that the Atari is better than most systems out today since it has a lot of simple coded games that runs smooth

ronin4life1435d ago

I don't think many Atari games were all that good.
Nintendo rarely makes games lacking in quality, from a play and product point of view(bugs and the like) and have been doing so consistently for more than 25 years.

So no, I think opposite day is still aways off. Keep your clothes the way they are. ^_^;

xursz1435d ago

Anyone remember Pokemon Battle Revolution?

Hisiru1434d ago

Well, it's a matter of taste/opinion. Really.

JoySticksFTW1434d ago

Loved Atari 2600!

Break-out, Ms. Pac-man, Vanguard, and River Raid were my favorites :)

I still miss joysticks and paddles

Paddles would be great for games like MAgic Orb and Arkanoid.

And I'd love an old school joystick for Pac-man Championship DX

As for Nintendo, their games are just consistently fun.

ShinMaster1434d ago (Edited 1434d ago )

I grew up playing Mario games and I feel like Nintendo hasn't done anything special in a while. Therefore "of all time" is a very subjective term.
Behind that Mario charm, the Galaxy games are pretty bland. Characters, story, mechanics, unnecessary motion controls, etc are just uninteresting and simple. Except for the visual design. Maybe people got carried away because it's one of the few good Wii core exclusives? Or maybe it's just a great game by only Wii standards.
I'm not sure.

But anyway, that's why I liked NewSMB better, because at least it's honest.
It stays more true to Mario gameplay and pacing, and doesn't try to make an adventure out of the same simple principle and it's fun.
I just wish there was more variation in its design. Because the 3DS and Wii U versions look very similar to the previous version, unlike Mario games in the past (SMB, SMB3 SMW).

IMO all the RPG Mario games(on consoles and handhelds) are better than all other recent Mario games because they have more depth!
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@bellow
Game journalists and reviewers are people too. And if they're gamers like everyone, then they can be fans and fanboys like everyone else, stealth or blatant.

Some people cite review scores to prove a game to be superior. But those same people may also cite review scores to show that a certain game is overrated.
Scores are full of contradictions, from the reviewers to the fanbase. So they're not definitive at all. They're extremely subjective, just like other people's opinions.

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StraightPath1435d ago

Nintendo creates games that out perform n quality not atched in games,like zelda or mario by any,other developer. Just for info mario galaxy highest rated game this gen.

BitbyDeath1434d ago (Edited 1434d ago )

Actually Metacritic gave that to GTAIV on PS3.
2nd is GTAIV on the 360 and third is Super Mario Galaxy

http://www.metacritic.com/b...

AO1JMM1434d ago (Edited 1434d ago )

@BitbyDeath,

Grand Theft Auto IV

User: 7.9

Super Mario Galaxy

User: 8.9

Super Mario Galaxy 2

User: 9.3

What was that again about GTAIV?

Eyeco1434d ago

GTA4 is the exact reason why i dont look at metacritic, really the highest rated game i thought it was a monotonous ,overrated piece of A$$

ShinMaster1434d ago (Edited 1434d ago )

Since obviously being a big-name title gives you an advantage.

So I suggest people stop citing scores to make a point.
Games are overrated and underrated depending on your taste and perspective. There is no definitive score.

BitbyDeath1433d ago

@A01JMM,

Your looking at the wrong column, that is just the user scores. (Meaning non-official scores that you or i could get in and adjust)

GTAIV got 98 averaged from reviews
Super Mario Galaxy got 97

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MEsoJD1434d ago

Nintendo can make some innovative/creative games, but they've gone downhill for me after the N64. Sony or should I saw their studios have had better consistency over the years in my opinion. Just ask my games collection : p

miyamoto1434d ago

Naughty Dog & Media Molecule brought me back to gaming after the Sega Dreamcast.

metroid321433d ago

your dreaming Nintendo make flawless games with amazing graphics and gameplay with faultless animations.

MEsoJD1432d ago

@metroid32

I'm sorry if this comes off as offensive, but your delusional or just a fanboy if you honestly think that...

morkendo231434d ago (Edited 1434d ago )

im just glad nintendo did not go the FPS AN MULTIPLAYER only route which MS and SONY is stuck in. Generation of same games over an over an over an over an over an over thank GOD for nintendo
NINTENDO always have VARIETY!!!! i hope ol school gaming make a come back.
those of you dont know what variety mean it mean more than just crapfest FPS and MULTIPLAYER, Zombie ONLINE only gaming. a selection of different games RPG'S,ACTION,PLATFORMER,SI DESCROLLING,RACING....

miyamoto1434d ago

" im just glad nintendo did not go the FPS AN MULTIPLAYER only route which MS and SONY is stuck in."

Metroid Prime Trilogy(2002-2009)& CoD games for the Wii says hi, Captain N.

AdvanceWarsSgt1433d ago

Funny, I don't recall CoD being made by Nintendo. Yet I'm pretty sure you already knew that.

Psycho_PS3Truthh1434d ago

Sony as produce the PS1, 2 and 3 with the most prestigious games ever created, nintendo realize that sony is just too powerful with delivering great games so they decided to go the casual root and betray there fans with inferior products because they know sony is not capable of selling inferior products to human beings.

I am a happy user of the PS3 within society because they have all the games that mankind will ever need and come next generation every single gaming company will bow down and honor the PS4 as greatest console for all eternity and honor sony as the kings of developing games and mankind will live happy for all eternity within the earth.

DragonKnight1434d ago

I really think that's enough of your gimmick now, seriously.

yabhero1434d ago

You fake! The real guy on IGN loves Nintendo as much as Sony, :)

ha2e481434d ago (Edited 1434d ago )

"To human beings" "within society" "within the earth" you do not sound smart or special, you Sound like a f*ck tard.

n4f1433d ago

your a happy ps3 yet you seem insecure.

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ChickeyCantor1434d ago

"Wicked, its opposite day. I should wear my clothes inside out also. "

No, opposite day would imply you don't wear clothes at all.

If you don't know the rules. Don't play the game.

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PopRocks3591435d ago (Edited 1435d ago )

Oy. Let the mudslinging begin.

I would agree with the sentiment if only because every Nintendo makes is always polished to a brittle shine. Take Wind Waker's graphics or the fluidity of Mario Galaxy's gameplay for example. There's more I could list but it would make the comment ho on forever.

Yeah, yeah, I know I'll be accused of being an obsessed fanboy. I guess if that's how people wish to debate then that's fine. But what can I say for you, I'm just a fan of the games they make; I'm no different from any fan of Sony's who will argue for their case or a fan of Microsoft's. I honestly would like to know how that's a bad thing.

-Mika-1435d ago (Edited 1435d ago )

Of course their game are going to be polished because their not drastically ADDING anything to their franchises. It basically the same elements and rarely little changes. Now i know most game developers do this but they have been doing THIS for neary 2 decades. At-least other game companies create a bunch of new ips in between.

Im not trolling or being a fanboy but im just really tired of seeing people praising nintendo games like their god when they're not really anything special.

@Morrigan-Aensland
Awesome post. Agree 100%

Sgt_Slaughter1435d ago

Not adding anything? Most Nintendo games, mainly Mario, are different.

From SMB 1, 2, and 3, to World to Land to 64 to Sunshine to Galaxy to New SMB Wii to whatever I forgot in-terms of main Mario Games, all of these are very different for each other, so nice try.

Hisiru1434d ago (Edited 1434d ago )

@-Mika-
So youre saying that NSMB is similar to Super Mario World and Mario Galaxy is similar to Mario 64 with only a few additions.

Really?

Devinchi331434d ago

I'd take a game that's completely polished over a radically new, but bug-ridden game any day. Add as many bells and whistles as you want; even the greatest games lose their appeal when you drop framerates, break questlines, or spy enemies phasing through floors and shooting at walls.

TheDivine1434d ago

No even non mario and zelda titles are head of the pack in their genre. Mk7 on 3ds has 32 tracks, online mp, and is near flawless outside of the one glitch. Xenoblade is on the wii and still outshined every jrpg this gen bar Lost Odyssey (i love turn based). Metroid Prime was a revelution compared to Super Metroid. Eternal Darkness, The Last Story, Star Fox 64/Adventures, Goldeneye, SSB, Kirby, Kid Icarus Uprising (brand new and like nothing on the market and its polished to high heaven with enough content to sink the titanic). Nintendo might be known for a couple games but they have more ip's than anyone and almost every single one is top notch. They try new stuff (wii sports, mii's, tablet controller, glasses free 3d exc) and they arent afraid to change it up and take beloved franchises like Mario and make it and rpg, take Zelda and make it cel shaded and cartoony and take all their characters and throw them together to fight it out. Nobody can compare to Nintendo. Even Sony with all their games had most of their well known PS games made by 3rd parties like FF7, RE, MGS where Nintendo is mostly in house. They are iconic.

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live2play1435d ago (Edited 1435d ago )

you cant spell ignorant without IG- wait nintendo you say?
ok contine
;)

CouldHaveYelledUiiW1434d ago

Lol- I noticed that too. But since both sides can be accused of picking and choosing, I thought it best just to let it be.

In this case, it kind of is a throw-back to all of the people who used IGN articles as a way to Dis Nintendo- now they no longer believe.

But it does work the other way as well.

CouldHaveYelledUiiW1434d ago

Lol- I noticed that too. But since both sides can be accused of picking and choosing, I thought it best just to let it be.

In this case, it kind of is a throw-back to all of the people who used IGN articles as a way to Dis Nintendo- now, they no longer believe IGN.

But it does work the other way as well.

SilentNegotiator1434d ago (Edited 1434d ago )

"or the fluidity of Mario Galaxy's gameplay"

Fluidity?

I'm surely not the only one that had the control stick constantly change what direction it sent you in every time you stopped on the wrong spot.

Or ran into something because the camera was stalking you from behind the planet's horizon instead of giving you a proper view.

Or tried hitting the buttons that adjust the camera and wonder if absolutely anything happened.

Or become frustrated with the stars you "grab" to go towards when floating because despite becoming visible to you, were "out of reach" of your magic, with no real indications of the length of reach.

Or tried to adjust the camera on a flat plane and was denied for whatever arbitrary reason.

Sony/MS would never in a million years have the highest rated game(s) of the generation if all they changed were the characters in the SMG games. They would actually be called on these issues.

krazykombatant1434d ago (Edited 1434d ago )

The camera is lakitu, if it can't move a certain direction its due to the map design or something is obstructing the camera. Got that fanboy itch huh???

Surely, sony devs deserve their dues, but no uncharted will ever out-do mario or the the nintendo brands.

SilentNegotiator1433d ago (Edited 1433d ago )

"The camera is lakitu, if it can't move a certain direction its due to the map design or something is obstructing the camera. Got that fanboy itch huh???"

So a bad camera is justified if they make a character hold the camera?

Sounds legit.

Someone certainly has a "fanboy itch" obscuring their logic, and it isn't the person considering actual game design instead of apologizing with backwards logic that a character needs to hold the game perspective in place.

-Mika-1435d ago (Edited 1435d ago )

You really can't spell ignorant without IGN. Nintendo is not the best game developer of all time. Maybe if this was the 90s but in 2012. Heck no!. Pushing out the same ip with little gameplay changes in between does not make them the best.

Sony on the other hand should be #1. Im not even being a fanboy when i say that. They created so many new ip this gen ALONE that are really fun and memorable. Heavy rain,Uncharted,Folklore,Fat princess,Infamous,Pixel junk,Escape plan and im pretty sure im forgetting more but that shows how awesome sony is as a game developer. All of the agme they released have been really great and it sad that other people don't realize it. They should of honestly been #1.

Shok1435d ago (Edited 1435d ago )

I like Sony too, but creating new IPs doesn't automatically make you a great developer. Many of these new IPs you speak of aren't up to par with already-established IPs such as Metal Gear and God of War. Only Uncharted has actually stood up to the already-existing IPs that belong to Sony.

Infamous was good, Resistance was good, yes, but could we have done without those games? Definitely. Could we have done without Metal Gear and God of War? No lol.

And while this is a completely opinionated matter, when you add in the fact that Nintendo's games are the highest-rated AND highest selling of all time, it's hard to argue against this. Nobody has more accolades than Nintendo.

Moncole1435d ago

MGS isn't a Sony series so it's a bad example.

GuyManDude1435d ago

I would add LittleBigPlanet to Uncharted for great current-gen IPs. Infamous is close, but not quite "great". Very good, but not quite great.

I'd also be inclined to put the "Hawk" series up there (Warhawk & Starhawk). They're fantastic multiplayer games, and Stawhawk was lauded by critics as one of the best online shooters around. But it's so different that no one gives it a chance, and that's unfortunate. Very fun games though, and a very dedicated online community.

Almir9081435d ago

You do realize that Nintendo wii games have certain limitations that Ps3 doesn't have. Like using up most of it's hardwares power. So developing a game like Super mario galaxy takes smaller effort than say games like Uncharted because uncharted uses up more resources. I can gaurantee if Mario was on the Ps3 it would not be rated as high as it got. SMG2 came out in 2010 but what game won the most GOTY awards in 2010? Red dead redemption a game on superior hardware. So reviews and ratings mean nothing when those reviewers picked Red dead to be GOTY. The new legend of zelda skyward sword came out 2011 yet despite it's score being higher than Uncharted 3, Uncharted 3 still received more GOTY awards. Although the game sells more it does not make it a better game. As for MGS that IP doesn't belong to SONY. As for which system provided more highly rated games this generation than it would be SONY hands down. So to say that Nintendo is the best developer? No. I believe Valve or Naughty Dog deserves that type of recognition.

miyamoto1434d ago

"There is no accounting for taste."

AO1JMM1434d ago

How many of those does Sony actually own the IP?

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grailly1435d ago (Edited 1435d ago )

unfortunately, they counted every sony studio on their list separately, so sony couldn't be number 1. I was shocked to see japan studio in 40th place or so. They are one on my fav studios, every game they put out is so fresh and innovative.

EDIT1:
japan studio #47
santa monica studio #40
polyphony #24
naughty dog #16

they did separate retro studio, game freak, HAL and intelligent systems from nintendo, though

EDIT2:
It's an "all-time best studio" list, so it includes companies that do not exist anymore or that aren't that great anymore. I'm not sure how to take it, sure they pushed gaming back then, but have proven that they weren't able to keep up the quality, that would also make this list rather rigid for newer studios.

funny, I have the impression that square-enix wasn't there but enix and squaresoft were lol

live2play1435d ago (Edited 1435d ago )

what? nintendo actually creates the games
naughty dog made uncharted not "SONY"
sucker punch interactive made infamous not "SONY"
so on so forth

they are talking about developers not the company

in this case it just so happens that the company develops games

darkgod1435d ago

UM WTF sony number one? it tas ^ years for a zelda to come outand we get like % uncharteds in 6 years. so yeah cut the trash talk sony is not even close to nuber one.

FinalomegaS1434d ago

You speak madness on a song Site lol

darkgod1434d ago

man my grammer was worst then ever on that post lol

FinalomegaS1434d ago

Jeez the blackberry auto word really helped me outtbere "not!"

Instigator1434d ago

The difference is that the games Sony get the highest honor for is only published by them for the most part, but was developed by a lot of great 2nd party studios who also made the list. The part of Nintendo IGN titled the best developer is their Entertainment and Analysis Division (EAD) which develops the likes of Mario and Zelda in-house. Now it's all opinions, but I really don't think SCE Japan Studio quite measures up to Nintendo EAD.

Just watch the video IGN embedded on their Nintendo entry, and you'll get a good feel why Nintendo can be regarded the best after 30 years in the game: http://www.ign.com/top/vide... .

Sono4211434d ago (Edited 1434d ago )

Okay let me just say this first, I own a PS3, I play it almost daily after work, I enjoy it very much along with the many games Sony has brought me, and i'm a PS+ member, I already plan on buying the next Playstation and I don't know a thing about it, but I am because I believe Sony knows what they're doing.

Okay now with that said let me just point out something wrong with your comment. Well first off simply coming up with new IPs doesn't qualify you for best game developer, considering the requirements are in the title "developer" plenty of people can come up with concepts for games but actually developing them, making sure they work perfect with no bugs or glitches, gameplay flows perfect at all times with a steady frame rate, everything is clipped where it is needed to be, and so on... all of this has to be taken into account when considering who is the "Best developer of all time". (by the way I think the statement should be changed anyway to "Best developer so far" or something along those lines) Nintendo does an excellent job of putting out quality games with little to no hiccups. I'm not saying Sony is bad at this they are great too, but I used to be in a glitching clan (Yes there are such things) we would play games simply to find glitches, we almost made it to beta testing but didn't, mainly because our leader F***ed up, but anyways we would find very little to no glitches in Nintendo games no matter how hard we tried and I give Nintendo props for that. Sorry for seeming like a rant but Nintendo deserves more credit than you guys are giving them.

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For those who don't believe the PS3 thing go ahead and message me on PSN my name on there is the same as on here -Sono421

Knushwood Butt1434d ago

The irony is that Nintendo let a lot of third parties develop their games: Nintendo just publish them.

If you want to praise them as an extremely successful publisher, then fine.

FinalomegaS1434d ago

You are talking about a small percentage.

This is about EAD and what they have a accomplished, not like having Namco or capcom develop some of their franchises.

AdvanceWarsSgt1433d ago

Don't bother with commenters like Knushwood. They get absolutely infuriated when any form of praise is thrown in Nintendo's direction, so their comments will be strictly from a biased standpoint.

Knushwood Butt1433d ago

Either you're delusional or you simply don't know the reality.

Look at the Wii games published by Nintendo in 2012:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Rhythm Heaven Fever
PokéPark 2: Wonders Beyond
Mario Party 9
Kiki Trick (Japan only)[17]
Xenoblade Chronicles
Project Zero II: Wii Edition
The Last Story
New Play Control! Pikmin 2

8 games, and only 3 of them developed by Nintendo...

I guess you might want to re-think that comment about, 'small percentage'.

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LX-General-Kaos1435d ago (Edited 1435d ago )

Nintendo is by far the greatest videogame development studio in the history of our hobby.

For decades Nintendo has delivered unrivaled, flawless gaming experiences to the Elite Nintendo supporter. Generation by generation since the beginning of gaming time. Consisting of some of the highest rated, and greatest selling videogames of all time.

Each generation Nintendo has delivered a reliable, and powerful console canvas. Built on the foundation of the greatest console in house exclusive experiences ever witnessed by man. Which consist of new IPs, and some of the longest running successful franchise characters, and worlds available on the market today.

The Nintendo experience is a magical experience from beginning to end. An experience that can only be rivaled by the very best of Pixar, and Walt Disney film. The only place where you can participate in a true game console, and the number 1 handheld experience on the market today. All which consist of bleeding edge technology, innovative ideas, and all around support from Nintendo exclusive titles. The very same titles that saved this industry and set new standards in how we experience videogames today.

Videogames come and go.. But the Nintendo experience lasts a life time. From the original Nintendo Entertainment System, to the soon to be released Nintendo Wii U entertainment system. The tradition of supreme, top of the line Nintendo caliber gaming carries on. I am sure each and every one of you Nintendo Elites here today have multiple story's of magical experiences. Experiences that could have only been possible within the Nintendo product line. Looking very much forward to see what the house that Mario built brings to the consumer next.

Have a blessed day and happy gaming.

Rated E For Everyone

GuyManDude1435d ago

As a gamer for 25 years who's owned an NES, Genesis, PS1, PS2, and PS3 (and played everything else but Saturn), Nintendo is the GOAT hands down.

I love me my Sony games today, but no one has had as many hit games as Nintendo. That's not a knock against anyone else, but rather a testament to the longevity of Nintendo. They've been around longer than just about everyone, and they've managed to keep their projects' quality high over the years (although in my opinion their craftsmanship dropped off a bit with the Wii).

SCE as a whole comes close, but they're not quite there yet. We have to keep in mind that IPs like Metal Gear Solid, Ratchet & Clank, Devil May Cry, and Heavy Rain were not developed by studios owned by Sony. They're exclusive (although DMC isn't anymore), but those guys aren't under SCE's umbrella.

If Nintendo doesn't start making some fresh IPs soon, they could slip down. Only time will tell.

LX-General-Kaos1435d ago (Edited 1435d ago )

Nintendo does make new IPs, but they are often ignored by the internet comment section.

I do agree with pretty much everything else you have mentioned. Its good to see another honorable Nintendo Elite supporter. I hope that with the future release of the Nintendo Wii U entertainment system, or the Nintendo 3DS entertainment system (available now) that you find a new Nintendo IP that tickles your fancy.

Rated E For Everyone

vallencer1435d ago

In all fairness Nintendo has been around longer than anyone alive today they started out as a trading card company in the late 1800's. I get what you mean though i just wanted to put my two cents in lol.

GuyManDude1434d ago

@LX

Yeah I guess I should have specified: I want to see Nintendo make the next new Mario. The next Link. The next Samus. I don't mean one of each, but the next great Nintendo character that we'll remember for decades to come. I want that IP.

I also DEMAND a new and awesome Star Fox game. Star Fox 64 was my favorite N64 game. Whenever I went to a friend's house I got a good dose of Star Fox. And I don't think anyone has made a multiplayer mode that fun with such few options. There really isn't anything to it (two maps I think and a few evasive maneuvers), but damn was it fun 4 player split screen.

LX-General-Kaos1434d ago (Edited 1434d ago )

Starfox 64 was probably my most played game on that platform.

But my favorite all time game for the Nintendo 64 entertainment system is Mario 64. The most revolutionary platform title ever created. Only to be bested be Super Mario Galaxy in my opinion.

Psycho_PS3Truthh1434d ago

I might like the Wiiu controller but the Wii as been a failure to human kind this generation with prehistoric graphics and lack of third party support, infact the first party games were just completely reboots of mario and zelda that are announce as sequels HAHA. Nintendo is far from the best at developing games are competing againt the ultimate console the PS3.

Nintendo is possible the best at making new controllers but not at making civilize games.

LX-General-Kaos1434d ago (Edited 1434d ago )

@psycho

You may not appreciate the legendary contributions that the Nintendo Wii entertainment system blessed the community with. But at the end of the day nobodys negative opinion matters on the subject.

Nintendo won...

If it were not for the masterful innovations of the Nintendo product line. You would not be able to play Rival exclusives with motion controls. Nintendo forced change to the way your brand of choice does business. Which will also continue well into next generation.

axisofweevils below described the situation better than I could, and made it easy as day to understand.

Rated E for Everyone

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WeskerChildReborned1435d ago

Well thats a big claim. I think Sony has the best developers in making unique games that you pretty much can't see on any other console.

ronin4life1435d ago

Perhaps... but so does Nintendo, and on top of that they also make games themselves.^_^;

darkgod1435d ago

no one maks games like uncharted? and go of war? theres a few like nchate an toooons like god of war.

Sono4211434d ago

I hate to disagree with you Wesker because you seem pretty level minded and pretty intelligent but could you read my comment up there? ^ I just don't feel like posting pretty much the exact same thing twice :/