"Xbox 360 isn't so good anymore compared to PCs."—Matt Firor, head of Zenimax Online Studios, talking about why we haven't seen successful console MMOs on 360 as part of an in-depth Elder Scrolls Online interview.
Was it ever comparable to PCs? Is ANY console ever comparable to PCs? Honestly I don't think so, they're of course at their closest when consoles first launch, but before long they're left in the dust. Developers do a great job of keeping them up to par though for sure.
Playstation as been king since its birth on the earth in the mid 90s, since then the term PC is dead came into existence. But the xbox is not better than PC in society in this last part of the generation. I think since kinect came and the lack of exclusives many gamers are now realizig that microsoft is not true to what is righteousness in gaming. But comparing the PS3 to PC, the only area the PC can compete against the omnipotent PS3 is within the indie area with games like amnesia, amber and slender. I dont classify free MMO or graphics to defy a console.
stupid fanboy, the ps3 cant compete against the pc at all, FYI the pc has more exclusives than the 360 and ps3 combined, the pc is on a league of its own, go enjoy your sub-hd games and jaggies and quit trolling.
Wow. The fanboy comes out to play. Why is it every fanboy of PS3 always comes out with the "exclusives" excuse? Sure, they're fun, but we're trying to talk about PC gaming as a whole; pricing, graphics, games, availability. You on the other hand come out and are like: Yo. Exclusives.
@Kran The playstation delivers the greatest games on the earth, put the best free to play MMOs together and they cannot beat 1 of the finest PS3 single player games on the earth. These are scientific facts within society, when was the last time these MMOs achieve recognition like the great PS3 console experience on earth. The PC will remain a test ground for gaming but the powerful and mighty PS3 will remain the breeding ground for true and mighty powerful games.
Aren't you that PS3 Troll from IGN? WTF, MAN?!
At least PS3 has exclusives that can't be found on PC. 360...well, 90% of its games can be found on PC.
Psycho is there some race to one bubble or something?
@Reverent look who's talking, i only stated facts on my previous comment. go research.
@tachy0n - "look who's talking, i only stated facts on my previous comment. go research." If that's how you want to defend your comment, then... RE: "@tachy0n - stupid fanboy, the ps3 cant compete against the pc at all, FYI the pc has more exclusives than the 360 and ps3 combined, the pc is on a league of its own, go enjoy your sub-hd games and jaggies and quit trolling" "the pc is on a league of its own, go enjoy your sub-hd games and jaggies and quit trolling" "@Psycho_PS3Truthh - I dont classify free MMO or graphics to defy(ine) a console." You're a hippo-kritt.
Oh look it's that stupid troll Psycho_PS3Truthh from IGN lol
Thanks. Now this comment section is fully primed for over-reactive console/PC hate and fanboy speeches about the glorious PC/console-of-choice. sigh On topic, because of the way Microsoft has handled the 360, just about any hard/core gamer should be plenty more happy going PC.
Name 1 ps3 game where you have to take over an entire country and manage all it's provinces including diplomacy between warring factions and control an entire countries economy while waging individual battles and wars. Not to mention having to maintain morale and keep troops fed and keep civilians from rising and rebelling. No game on ps3 has that depth. Shogun 2 does and guess what? It AND. It's 3 brothers are all pc exclusive. There are only 3 real Sony exclusives that really get talked about and that's uncharted, DEMON'S souls and metal gear solid 4. The rest are average games, not excellent not bad just average.
LOL! Proof that sony fanboys are the worst! Like a rabid cult.
Seriously stop talking about gaming like its a religion. You are the sort of person that people look at and think "this is why video games are bad" Also everyone look at this guys account on IGN (where he "originated" from). He genuinely thinks he's a celebrity on N4G... -_- @h311rais3r .... You like Total war games which means i love the crap out of you ;D. Rome: Total war was like my first "hardcore" game and i still own it!
Why all the comparisons, console gamers dont really care about graphics or performance.
I can't believe people on here are getting butthurt by Psycho_PS3Truthh's comments. They are just troll comments to get a rise, and you guys have fallen right into the trap. Well done folks! And what's worse, is that it portrays a bad impression of PS3 gamers. Exclusives are important, as indicated by recent developments, but we have people saying that they're not important or necessary because "PS3 fanboys go on about them all the time" or "they don't sell well". Where is the logic in that? PC gaming is epic and I love my time spent there, but I like to also play console for its exclusives and those games that feel more natural played with a gamepad. Don't downplay what is great just because certain fanboys or trolls piss you off!
PS3 has the most cohesive gaming experience and the best exclusive games with some of the best graphics of all time, PC has the best deals and usually has the best looking 3rd party games and the 360 requires a subscription and has a very limited library of exclusives. Graphically the 360 has been a disappointment for the last 4 or 5 years.
LOL Psycho just destroys these people. How come you guys don't get he is trolling huh? Great work Psycho! Exposing the overly sensitive individuals like that. I particularly like your way of ending many of your sentences with "on earth". Priceless! Bubbles up for funny!
PS3truth is trying to make ps3 gamers look bad, hes not a ps3 gamer, dont be so naive. real ps3 gamers/ sony fans are the shit ; ). and this guy, or should i say boy, is annoying and immature.
Really no consoles can be comparable to PCs. Consoles are just simple to use and cost less, that's the only real advantage.
Do people forget the reason ms puts its games on pc? Pc is basicaly a ms platform with windows and directx. Of course sony is not going to publish as much on pc as it takes away from there cnsole but with ms they make money on every pc sold. So saying games on the 360 and pc are a problem then you have forgot how much the pc means to ms. I aslo hear sony is going to go more pc architecture next gen as they see nobod really cares to learn there diffcult propritory hardware when they have to put twice the work in it to get the same result. They started with that emotion engine then the cell. If sony keeps it up they will just be showing there arorgance and getting crappy ports other then there first party who they force it on. Its why valve and many other third party devs were sick of sony. But now sony is all about the gamer. What a line of bull. Just look at there past and its easy to see they only careabout themselves like a good portion of there fanbase.
1. I read the title and thought, "FLAIMBAIT" 2. Neither console was never comparable to the PC. The PC is always ahead of the consoles as to test out the new tech and game genres that the next console gen will enjoy. 3. Next console Gen the PS4/Xbox720 will have more ram and thus be capable of properly having MMO's and a more robust Online Gaming experience. I just hope Next Console Gen Sony/MS give their Gamers DEDICATED SERVERS for all their online games including FPS like Call of Duty and Battlefield. The Console online experience is great but Dedicated Servers will improve things. 4. Console Gaming is different from PC Gaming so the comparison is totally stupid in the first place. Enjoy your games no matter the platform.
I concur. PC's can really deliver the best visuals and over all experience. Consoles are better from a price perspective. They don't have to be upgraded constantly and they are cheaper to begin with. It all depends on your situation and each system delivers a different experience. Next gen I hope that consoles get closer to the PC. The title is just inviting a flame war to break out (one already has).
Completely agree ATi_Elite. The PC is what started it ALL, from consoles to the everyday electronic devices we use today. There is no need to compare them with anything. It's PC's > Everything. As for gaming, PC and console gaming are very different and cannot be compared either. To each their own. Why can't we all just get along, maybe sing a song, and play along?!
in Graphics? Uncharted 2/3 says hi.
The gulf wasn't nearly as wide as it is now, and software development generally lags a little behind hardware. So the 360 and even the PS3 remained competitive for a while, but their age is definitely showing now. Most of my favorite recent mutliplatform AAA titles, despite being made with state of the art optimization tools that are the culmination of 5 years+ of experience on the platforms, suffer from choppiness, weak texturing, resolution hacks that really show the deficiencies of the consoles with current software. Good games can be made on any platform, but technically it's time for some consoles with better memory bandwidth and storage, at the absolute minimum...
Lags behind? Uncharted MGS Beyond Two Souls LBP etc etc say HI
This is hilarious... almost like, "flip phones aren't quite as good as that there iPhone thingy." Actually consoles have many advantages over over gaming. But they are being seriously overshadowed by raw power right now.
Playstation 3 was never a match for my pc either lol. Why pick on xbox lol? I sold my xbox and playstation 3 2 years ago because they couldnt get anywhere near pc. My 3 graphics cards with 16 gigs of ram just destroys any console. Bf3 is way better on pc. Skyrim is so kick ass on pc with total graphics upgrades, player made weapons, armor, custom houses to store my stuff,and you can even change all spell effects to make them crazy epic. Also you can mod in a lightsaber with the deathstar as a moon overhead in skyrim lol. Also the steam sales just makes it all worth while. I bought saints row 3, Both batman games, dead space 2, dirt 3, Deus Ex: Human Revolution, L.A. Noire, and all the mass effect games all for like 7 bucks each. You cant beat the prices on pc i also only spent like 30 bucks on skyrim right after launch. I have over 60 games on steam most i havent even got around to playing yet. Because the prices were so cheap and it didnt even cost me alot of money.
It's been like that for a long while now.....what do you mean "anymore" like it's just now recently happening?
Welcome to 5 years ago! Come on.
I've also heard that the latest PCs are more powerful than PCs from 6 years ago. Can it be true!?
I think you're onto something.
Oh yes, since when xbox is more powerful than PC?
PCs continually upgrade. Consoles do not. Every time someone makes a comparative statement they are doing so with a current PC line.
Lol, no console is comparable to a PC. Why are people so stupid? At least they can do things a $200-$300 pc cant do!
@NoFanboyRequired No man i can build a very outdated pc with 4000 series parts that are like 30 bucks now. I put in a old cpu with a low end case that comes with a power source and build one for 300. And it will still beat current consoles. Pc parts back then are so old now you can get them for like 20 bucks.
Yeah? Lets see that computer play battlefield 3. Doubt it would happen :) Edit- and I'm talking about parts from when the 360 first came out. And I'm pretty sure nothing back from 7 years ago can do it, besides consoles. Also, developers can get a hell of a lot more out of a consoles hardware than they can out of a PC. Like I said before. If the PC market all had the same gpus installed, and every developer knew that, they'd build the game from the ground up on that card, using all of its power. Take the 7970, for instance. If a developer built a game made specifically for that card, and that card only, nothing would ever come close to it.
@NoFanboyRequired my 4870 build before i upgraded played bf3 on ultra at 30 fps @ 1080P res . I had a 4870x2 though those go for 55 dollars now. Crossfire 2 of those for 100 bucks and now you have 4 gpu's way more than any console. Or spend 20 bucks for a single 4870 and get 3 way crossfire and play at 30 fps or more just without direct x11 effects. I know the 4000 sereis cards well those things were powerful i ran them for 4 years. Nothing really pushed them but BF3. I only upgraded for direct x11 but they ran the game fine. BF3 was the first game i couldnt run locked at 60 fps on my 4870's it ran crysis and warhead 60 fps locked. Like i said it ran @30fps and a really smooth frame rate and i had no problems destroying other players. I could also play The witcher 2 on ultra without ubersampling on. You shouldnt play on ultra in multiplayer anyway but i did the whole time.
The title is so much fail I don't even know how to start lol. Not good "anymore" compared to PC? That was the case at launch and still now. There's no need to create flame wars about it. Everyone should just accept it and move on.
Who ever compares Xbox or any console for that matter to PC is just...how can you even compare the two really.
Considering Xbox has never really been good compared to the PC. How MMO's work isn't based off of console specs, hell Phantasy Star Online was ran on Dreamcast like what, 10, 11 years ago? It has nothing to do with the power of the console really, But the publisher is the problem, which would be MS. Sure, when MMO games see the consoles there are restrictions, like content. Take Minecraft for example, a PC game at heart saw tremendous success on console. Its content was cut in half so they can deliver it in a good but basic experience. But MS said they wanted to support constant updates and work with Majong games to make the game better and more fun. So MS has very good management skills (when they want to) when it comes to working with devs and MMO's. But point being its up to MS when it comes to MMO's or PC games being ran on there console. EDIT: I also want to add that MS in the past had some really bad management when it comes to MMO's I forget the name of it the game but I remember it was for the original Xbox. And I remember seeing the game in action and the game look PROMISING. I mean it looked so beyond ready, but one of the key features was to have real time voice chat in the game, and the this was a new feature for the original Xbox. Bad news, the devs, I believe, didn't know how to implement the feature, so what did MS do? Cancel the game, the WHOLE ENTIRE PROJECT and studio is no more either. So MS and MMO's is a love hate relationship. They can go full commando support for the game one minute, and one little minor thing happens and MS stops supporting it the next minute, either during or after the game ships, meaning no updates or content. Or in mid development just pull the plug cuzz something doesn't go right. Sony's been around longer to understand MMO's better, and support them better than MS. So MS knows how they work but they can learn from Sony, which would be "PATIENCE."
too long to be agreed :D
Well theirs not shock 360 has nothing on PC, but when it comes to MMO's 360 is really bad at it. I think PS3 is only good at it because Sony makes some of those MMO's. As for PS3 being better then PC, thats up to which one you like. I play all consoles and PC's games (Ok not all games, but most XD).
Your scrotum isn't so good anymore, now that I have a swastika tattooed on mine.
What do you expect, considering how old it is? Give me a break.
Xbox 360 hasnt been so good for a long time now... Compared to a high end PC yeah most consoles arent so cool but whatever...
My 360 isn't crap compared to my new Alienware. Does not mean I won't plop Halo 4 in it on launch day and turn the pc off. Both offer a unique experience and therefore both give me what I need and want.
The Xbox and the playstation can easily keep up with PCs. Which is why developers are making games once developed only PCs now available on consoles.
I think you are talking about ports. Those are nothing special. Just compare the Witcher 2 on PC and the 360...
This article is stupid I'll tell you 2 main reasons why...First off 1) xbox 360 and PS3 would be interchangeable in this article. PS3 isn't all that much more powerful than the 360. (This article was written to troll) 2) PS3 and 360 has been out what like 5 years or so with NO hardware upgrades (ie Graphics cards, RAM etc..) PCs get major new graphics cards and upgradable RAM every 6 months or so.... So of course over the cosoles life cycle computers will be much more superrior in terms of Hardware capabilities... Like I said what a dumb article which was written to flame the fanboys...
F PC's only good for the net
"Graphics aren't everything" "PC is more powerfull than console, therefore is better" fuck logic only pc gamers think pc is better because it 'haz better graphicz ya know'
To all you PC gamers, have fun staring at 20 inch monitor alone, with only your keyboard and mouse too keep you company ^.^ while your doing that I'm going to be laying on my bed, playing my ps3 or 360, trying to teach my girlfriend how to play uncharted, lbp, etc... yes us console gamers truly suffer from not having a PC to play video games on hahaha
Srsly the PC has more exclusives than any console currently on the market? Can somebody please draw up a list of all the exclusives currently on the PC? And yes as stated above no console can compete with a PC, since PC's are upgradeable and consoles not.Nuff said..
The fact is, consoles are better value for money than a pc on a dollar by dollar basis. They have a wider selection of games at an overall cheaper price point.
You've got that completely backwards. Sure PC's are more expensive up-front, but the games are much cheaper so it ends up cheaper in the long run. In terms of variety there's no contest, how you think consoles have a wider choice of games is beyond me.
No. You can get a average gaming PC for around $500 and even cheaper if you custom build. The games are very cheap for PC. Just look at the steam sales: $3-$20 for $40-60 games on consoles. In the long run,PCs are better for your money.
You just now found out?!.. wheretha hell have you been?!
It was never good compared to PC's, at least in terms of tech and what the hardware was/is capable of. Same goes for any home console including the PS3, and I say that as a massive console gamer but also as a PC gamer. As for people going on about prices of games, multi plat games are cheaper on PC, the only thing that has kind of annoyed me about publishers on PC lately is the PC version not releasing until like a month or so after the console version. What I love about PC gaming too though is that the games I invariably miss during the year because I either haven't got the spare cash or just hadn't got the time I get to pick up when Steam has one of it's sales. Batman Arkham City currently going for like £7 and Portal 2 for under £4 is pretty ridiculous and something you don't really get from console gaming. Still though, I'll always have a console for experiences like Uncharted or Gears or Halo and stuff like that, I tend to only really go for exclusives on consoles these days and do my multi plat stuff on PC. It's really the best of both worlds.
You see this new OUYA system.PS3 kills this thing PSN has 1000's of games. ps1,ps2 and ps3 archives and the online is free.Playstation has an insane catalog god of war 3 you can pick up used cheap.No OUYA game will ever come close to god of war 3 lol.No serious gamer would ever buy this OUYA piece of garbage.As far as PC gaming goes I never play them the controls are way to akward. Evidence of ppl chosing PS3 over a PC are already here.DC Universe free to play (PS3 exclusive) is the best comic book game ever made.70% of ppl playing DC Universe play on ps3.The PC version doesnt even come close to PS3.
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