Microsoft and Sony both made some mistakes this current gen, here's five that hopefully won't be repeated.
I think it's inevitable that problems occur one way or another with console launches but hopefully Sony will play a smarter game this time.
whenever there is a news from msxbox-world the site goes down like 4 times out of 5
For me they only need to fix 2 mistakes - reasonable price and good launch games. BC too, though it will most likely come through the cloud. And my PS3 is BC so I'm not too high on that one. Always nice to have BC readily available when you get a PS4 tho.
Haven't clicked the link yet so they dont get any hits from me with their flaimbait, but I'm guessing the PSN hack was a mistake? I like how everyone except an Ms-Xbox site has forgotten that....
Except there's no mention of the hack at all in the article.
lol, nice one Sherlock sorry that was mean...
Hack wasn't even mentioned in the article, and if you are going to troll, at least spell the word "flame" right.
They need to not overdose on hardware so its selling at a 200 dollar loss at $500. This means no power level over 9000. Sorry to disappoint.
Nice...A PS4 article from an Xbox 360 site...I've seen it all now.
I thought the "Standard features missed" was amusing coming from a xbox site. The 360 launched without hdmi and there was also a model that didn't even include a hard drive.
Yeah that was chuckle worthy.
and don't forget no Blu-ray or web browser... in fact the list is pretty big when you start going into it. But you know, lies become truths if you say them often enough
don't forget no wifi built in
Also, no built in battery in controller. Play and charge kit sold separately.
also didnt come with multiplayer unless you had an extra 150$ or so on you for the one year + adapter. also didnt come with the ability to put your own 2.5 sata hard drive in. also didnt come with the ability to play mp4 etc video files until around a 2008 update. also didnt come with the ability to BE F IN QUIET until 2010.
Their biggest problem was arrogance. This gen's results will certainly change that next gen.
You mistake arrogance for confidence, learn the difference. When PS3 launched it was the cheapest Blu ray on the market and it launched with wifi
"You mistake arrogance for confidence, learn the difference." You see that's the main problem right there. Just because you launch something with the latest technology with a high price it sure as hell doesn't mean people are gonna go out and buy it just because you attach a name to it. They were indeed arrogant thinking people were gonna jump just because of BR and their name. I don't care what you put inside a console, if the price is too high and you don't properly support it with good launch games people will not buy it. If you don't believe that then watch sony launch the ps4 with a cheaper price and with better launch games. No my friend, its you that has confused arrogance and confidence. If they are so confident, then the price of ps3 would still be 599.00. Just face it, sony fucked up this gen by over engineering the ps3. Stop being blind fanboy because even sony sid the exact things I just did. Here, why don't you educate yourself and stop acting like sony can do no wrong. If everything was all peachy the ps division wouldn't of lost almost 3 billion dollars. http://www.computerandvideo...
@ cstyle, "Stop being a blind fanboy!" You have a lot to say about Sony and their arrogance, what about MS? A lot of stupid people believed everything that came out of MS's PR mouths about how everything that Sony and the PS3 brought to the table at launch was not needed! But if you look at what the 360 has today, it looks a lot like the 60gb PS3! You know, he never said Sony could do no wrong...to me (and according to what MS has done to the 360 to catch up to the PS3 in features), they did a lot of things right! And at the time, the price was spot on! I haven't had to pay $400 for a DVD player since, I bought my first one back in 1999! The one thing Sony did wrong with the launch (and continues to screw up) is advertising! If people would have known and understood what the PS3 was/is capable of, it might have been a different story.
@JayD except most people have no clue about specs, they wanted to see something tangibly different hence the wii did amazingly. Also after the success of the ps2, I'm sure plenty knew what to expect of the ps3, however the price put them off. Did you get your ps3 on day 1, come on be honest?
@ mysterym, Actually I did buy my system day2! Had it pre-ordered! And once again, at the bare minimum, if you can see if a blue ray player is going $800+ and you can get one for $600???! You don't have to be a genius to see the deal! But that all goes back to Sony not advertising correctly! There were people who thought that a DVD wouldn't playin the machines......I mean, how stupid do you have to be??
Their Biggest problem was setting a high price for the PS3, they could have been super arrogant and launch a $400 console, sales could have been huge and people wouldn't even care about their attitude :P
Consider at the time though the PS2 was still going fairly strong. Sony did the same thing they do with stereo components or TV's. They had a high end entry and a lower end entry system. I don't think consumer choice is ever a bad thing. And it worked for them. People were always moaning about slow system sales of the PS3 due to it's price point but the actual sales numbers don't back that up. The PS3 has handily outsold the 360 head 2 head since it became available worldwide, and was even matching and then exceeding PS2 numbers up until the economy started to go to hell. People talk about Sony's mistakes with the PS3 but the system sold better than it's closest competitor, it helped cement Blu-Ray as the accepted Hi-def format and the Entertainment Division has really been the only bright spot for Sony for years. There's no reason to think the PS3 won't have sold 80 million consoles or more before the PS4 launches, and that's not to say the PS3 won't continue to be supported just like the PS2.
Actuslly, if you werent illiterate, you would know that the PS brand has always been profitable for Sony. And if we're gonna talk about mistakes, how about we acknowledge RROD (56% chance of getting it in first 1-1.5 years of buying your xbox). And you're certainly being arrogant by discrediting Xperia's opinion like that.
Nintendo made more money during the ps2/gcn era than sony made from playstation 2 over that period of time. You should blindly follow them.
"Actually*, if you weren't illiterate, you would know that the PS brand has always been profitable for Sony." um no it hasn't http://www.joystiq.com/2009...
Advertising? Seriously? You think that a name brand like the playstation needs advertising? Especially since the ps1 and ps2 sold tons??? Sony came in to this gen with their noses in the air and it cost them. But it was a well needed learning experience, they will do much better with the ps4. I'll add bluray with that list. Sony failed with bluray. I have yet seen an exclusive game on the ps3 that uses the bluray to the max...except for ones that use tons of cinematic footage. We were promised games with bigger levels and bigger worlds. Skyrim and GTA4 destroy everything sony has in terms of size. In fact, most of Sony's best titles are short linear games. Simple point A to point B games. Games with boxed levels. Add the fact, that disc media has pretty much disappeared since the ps3 started.... just as I predicted. Everything is streaming now. They'll learn from their arrogance and do much better next gen.
Sony went from the PS2 in first place (far above anything EVER in the history of videogames)... to LAST PLACE and being a joke in the industry. Their arrogance (remember their PS2 slide at E3 where they bragged about how the race was "over" and it wasn't a race at all?) only makes the PS3's failure even funnier. PS3's exclusives sell less than popular XBLA titles, and their multiplats look and perform worse than on the 360 (158 to 41 for the XBox, at last Digital Foundry count - that's a hilarious margin). There's no reason to own a PS3.
How bout the exclusive games and bluray package ? Your one bubble is funny
you re absolutely right. that is why playstation outsell xbox360 on a weekly basis, because they don,t see Any value in it. Xxxlol
Why is it that when MS announced they sold the most over 2011 during e3, Sony didn't claim otherwise? Probably because the 360 sold more last year than ps3 and still has more systems sold than ps3 currently. Not to mention they are making a ton of money on the 360 while ps3 is still trying to recoup massive losses. Don't play sales, because sony can't win that game anymore.
Well aint that a trolling comment right there. i wonder how long it will take untill they take it down.
Theres no reason to own a ps3? Well I can say there's no reason to own an xbox seeing as hardly there's hardly any AAA exclusives currently on it or on the horizon except for the usual halo and gears of war. And unless you already own a cable box what's the point? That's all Microsoft seem to be doing. Adding tv channels and a few apps. Halo and gears are the only Xbox exclusives that sell. The only other relatively big exclusives are fable and forza, and as we've seen they can't sell without bundles. And I'm not in the market for kinect shovel ware thanks. So what's the point of owning an Xbox? Microsoft has abandoned the hardcore and your just mad about it. See I can troll too. It's not that difficult. Also find it funny how cstyle is talking about fanboys. Lol.. Jog on.
Is funny, since you have to pay 60 a year, plus 8 a month just for netflix.