Information Week writes:
"Microsoft shipped 4.3 million Xbox 360 systems in the three months ended December 31, compared to 4.4 million systems during the same period in 2006."
This article is flamebait. Trying to obviously spark some sort of argument with the PS3 and 360 fans. News is still news, but news on games would be better.
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He probably sold his 360 when Warner Bros made the Blu-ray deal because after that all he's been doing is looking for negitive 360 news, its all he posts.
No games are being released right now that probably has more to do with 360 sales right now although the Halo effect would naturally fade untill the next Halo effects that is.
Possible two more Halo effects comming this year.
((((#1.1)))) that depends on how many of you trolls come in here.
I agree with -TylerDurden - these are shipped numbers MSFT adjusted due to what they thought was needed 2006 they over shipped. lol
I prefer to game on my X360 over my PS3 ANYDAY (because of the much better controller) but seriously - I can't f@#king stand Halo!! The game is crap compared to others out there.
So what, there's a tiny slow down, nothing to worry about, M$ is profiting now, something Fony won't be saying for a long, long, loooooong time!
alan wake, halo 4, halo wars, halo halo halo... Well Ps3 sucks anyways.
HALO is a TRILOGY. There will be no HALO 4
halo effect is definetely fading i meant CoD 4 beat them on a most played game on xbox live last week
no really... halo3 hasnt been in a european top 10 since october
Main reason: Halo 3
Can you imagine what sales would have been like w/out the Halo effect? It moved so many consoles. Now I just gotta get those other must have titles... Used Gears, Bioshock and Mass Effect. Is Half.com a good place to get used games?
I was in a gamestop last night and 3 employees were telling a guy in there not to buy a PS3 because ALL 3rd party games run and or look better on the 360. MS made a GAME SYSTEM not a Blue ray palyer that also plays games. Wait until GTA IV comes out and the 360 drops $100 bucks, lets talk numbers then.
Oh I can't wait to talk numbers with you when that happens! Also, people who enjoy GTA games bought them on PS2 and will most likely goto PS3 just because it has all their favorite franchises. I don't see why xbox fans think GTA4 going to 360 will spark a huge "OMG I WUNZ 360z NOWWWW OMGZ!!!!"
Like i said, x360 is slowing down whille the ps3 is on uprise, and we all know about the exclusives coming up.
"Oh noooo....the 360 is failing!!!"
It's a full month after the holidays....EVERY manufacturer sees that much of a drop-off, if not MUCH MORE.
They are comparing Oct, Nov and Dec 2k7 with 360 sales for Oct, Nov and Dec of 2k6. Your after the holidays comment makes no sense at all.
comprehension isn't something you should be talking about this was a shipping adjustment has nothing to do with anything more than MSFT comming to the conclusion they didn't need to ship as many consoles as they shipped too much in 2006.
Doesn't mean demand was less in this case they over shipped in 2006.
If Sony ships lets say 6 million" PS3's this holiday season and sells 3 million to consumers and adjusts their shipping in 2009 holiday season shipping 5 million and selling 4 million Doesn't mean the some future PS3 game effect is fading. lol
Also the shipping number can be the same or less like, in this case and still can be positive for any company even more so if they guessed wrong by over shipping.
I used the term sale. A unit shipped is a sale for MS. MS sold too much in 2k6? I guess they will probably come to the conclusion they sold too many in 2k7 also and the year after that and so on. But hey whatever makes you feel better POS I mean POG.
2.3% is nothing man. 2.3% almost like no effect on drop
Its a decrease and thats always bad..
One of only a few internally owned IPs. Besides Fable, Perfect Dark, Forza and Viva Pinata I guess. On a side note I liked Kameo but I don't think it sold enough for them to consider a sequel.
2.3% is Sony douche bag flame bait. I hate all of you Sony a-holes!
What the article is highlighting here is not the minute marginal drop, but because it was estimated the 360 do better this holiday with the cheaper cost and better software library. Instead, it did slightly worst than the previous holiday last year not even matching the previous performance; which is obviously a cause for suspicion in why that was. This could be due to many reasons e.g. competition but I'm sure everyone in the industry expected it to do better.
My question is how: With an amazing 2007 getting this holiday result, what will MS need to do to improve on the software-line up to even better that, and thus gain an increase instead of a drop in growth rate for the holiday season.
hmm i can kinda see why this would be news now. if they projected a substantial increase but got a marginal loss. i see
What you, and apparently the "analysts" fail to understand, is that the HALO effect began waaaaay before the holiday season, in a completely different financial 1/4. With preorders in the millions, and a street date of Sept. 25th, the holidays didn't figure to be that much more of a boost to the 360, where HALO was concerned. COD4 was likely a bigger seller for the 360 this X-MAS than HALO 3.
Halo was out in 2006?.
The new consoles finding their place and establishing themselfs caused a split *so to speak* with consumers willing to buy a console.
It was estimated?, PS3 dropped its price three
Anyways back to reality... MSFT simply did not ship as many consoles in 2007 vs 2006 lol shipping adjustments based on what a company thinks is needed at any given time does not mean people are buying any more or any less consoles. Of course if they sell out or not selling then that could effect choice making but still a company can make misstakes on judging how many they need to ship. lol
Always making these grand comments that seem smart but are based from moronic twists to take jabs at MSFT and your little monkey following is aways there to agree with you.
It was a shippment adjustment one that was clearly more realistic when two other consoles entered the market and made even more sense considering the two new consoles would have their 2nd wave of games comming in. Has little to do how many consoles sold to consumers in 2006 vs 2007 in this case.
I wasn't referring to Halo 3 or a specific title at all. My point was that the industry expected Sony and especially Microsoft and Nintendo to show growth in the final fiscal year, with the holiday period a focus. Naturally what the figures show is the opposite; Microsoft sold less this time round.
It's surprising considering the platform is much more appealing, and highly acclaimed, than its ever been. Considering the software package that was exclusive to the 360 in 2007, it'll be interesting to see how Microsoft do in the holiday period of 2008.
Naysayers will say its a sign of decline etc, ignoring total earnings for that year as a whole. However, what can't be ignored is the fact that they did not improve on the holiday period, which is the most important time frame of the industry. I'm sure Microsoft won't be ecstatic with that fact.
of the Xflops failure. It's just a matter of time till PS3 completely takes over. Mark my words. The take over starts Mar.18, when Gran Turismo 5:Prolouge releases.
im a sony fan first but to me, posting this as news is kinda dumb. thats such a tiny difference its almost negligable. a more appropriate story would be the huge amount of %increase sony had
.....Bloodmask posting negative 360 news? *pinches self* im not dreaming?! What the hell? ive fallen into an alternate reality!
You were already in an alternate reality. Now your in an alternate alternate reality.
Oh crap. There's gonna be a flamewar.
of the people that purchased halo 3 will buy halo wars. It just doesn't have nearly as much hype as halo 3 did. I agree with f7ss1. Why not just post about how much PS3 is taking ground from the wii and 360? It would be make more sense.
After 2006 holiday there was close to 2.4 million 360's that were shipped and had yet to be sold to consumer.
After 2007 holiday there are close to 1.1 million 360's that have shipped but have yet to be sold to consumer.
Obviously in 2006 MS overshipped, and they didn't want to make that same mistake this year. My feeling is they overshipped 2006 to exceed 10 million sold, since MS reports shipped units as sold units in their earnings release statements.
This has nothing to do with how much they actually sold to consumers over the holiday
4.4 million to 4.3 million oh teh noessssssss
A sign of more bad things to come..
what ever makes u sleep at nite.
halo 3 definetly was the peak for the 360, editors from sites like ign and gamespot even said that during halo 3's release.
not worth mentioning... imo
...until halo wars comes out. Actually, GTA is going to boost the 360's sales again...that is, if MS can somehow figure out how to properly market the exclusive dlc.
The price is what is lowering the sales. $349 is still a lot of money for a premium system. The price needs to come down again for sales to grow again. Simple you eventually get to a point where people don't find it worth it at at that price. It is called elasticity of market. Sales will pick again once the price goes down.
Edit: It means that there is a limited market for the console at that price. It becomes more of a wanted item at lower prices. The packed in games convinced some to buy at $349, but it is still to much for the mass market. Why do think Sony and MS keep saying the mass market price point is $199? They have numbers that show this is the optimal price for selling consoles en mass. Sales for all consoles will slow for a while until the prices drop again. Sony may sell better for awhile based on loyalty from the previous generation, but its sales will also slow down soon as $400 is still too expensive for the mass market.
so let me get this right.. a cheaper price point than before, along with 2 packaged games, and the most anticipated game in years that has sole around 7 million units.. equals lower sales than the previous year.. interesting analysis
The premium bundle, with 2 games, is $349, in most places, and the Arcade is $279, w/5 games.
lol.. funny... all of the sudden Sony fanboys don't want to use their theory about sold vs shipped...
The fact that microsoft shipped less consoles than the previous year does not indicate that retail stores sold less xbox 360s... but simply that microsoft shipped less than the previous year... this says nothing about it... it's possible that retailers overstock their inventory before the holiday season to prevent not having any to sell like the previous year causing them to order less during the holiday season...
This says nothing... and the fact that NPD numbers indicate that the xbox 360 sold more consoles than the previous year should be enough to prove that this article is bull... but then again... these Fanboys are stupid and know nothing about business.
Shipped = Sold to retailers
Sold to retailers mean they were bought from M$. They don't see 'more' money if the retailers sell more. The retailers just order more which means more shipped. If they shipped less this holiday season they sold less this holiday season and retailers were not ordering as many as last year.
This isn't rocket science, but spin away my friend, because a dip in the amount of sales is not good after the #1 selling game on the system was launched.
Microsoft makes money for each console bought by a store anyways... they report those numbers because that is what is important to stock holders. The fact that stores are purchasing more Xbox 360s means they are selling regularly...
What difference does it make.
Selling a million units less in 2007 is a pretty big deal. I wonder when Microsoft is going to learn from their competitors and simply release "Hardware Sales Figures" instead of "Hardware Shipment Figures". No wonder their investors are so nervous.
"Not even half
of the people that purchased halo 3 will buy halo wars"
Not even 4 million out of the close to 8 million will buy Halo Wars?, what is MSFT going to do?.
PS3 supporting revenge seeking is whats going on this post its pointless. Its not only ridiculous because the decrease is so small its retarded to post a story over this with a flame title its the fact it just shippment choice that was adjusted and I doubt its because demand of the 360 would be less in the year of Halo vs GOW.. lol
I read the Other new Halo game could be a 3rd person tactical shooter maybe more than half of Halo 3 owners will buy the other Halo game ontop of Halo Wars.
As evident by the fact that nearly 65% of all Xbox 360 hardware sales take place in North America, despite the fact that North America is the second largest videogame market behind Europe.
European sales of the 360 have stagnated.
Japanese sales of the 360 are nonexistent.
Yeah, the 360's monthly sales are still slightly ahead of the PS3 in North America, but globally its getting hammered down into third place. This is really why the need for a price drop on Microsoft's part has become such a hot topic; declining sales across the board, despite an increase in quality software.
haha 360 sucks,red rings of death and pc ports
360 is total @ss
The gaming industry grows thanks to PS3, the non-gaming industry thanks to Wii, and if it wasn't for them, revenues would be down thanks to 360's money pit and decreasing sales.
Are these stats right?. Really is weird if they are correct. Halo3 and lower price point but sold less than the same period the year before?. The positive news for MS then is that the x360 can sell MORE even without Halo3. This means that the x360 can sell more this year which i thought is impossible without Halo FPS. I guess i was wrong then.
At least Micro$hit still has their beloved attach rate!!!
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Keep your attach rates while Sony gets that money and first place BOTS!!
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wow sales fall 2.3% an amount so small i really am surprised. considering the 360 has gained two competing consoles since 2006 i would expect the sales to be down more no?
what a huge difference in sales, i mean, we better write about it because it obviously means the 360 is on it's way to failure...
and the ps3 sales spurt after the emergancy price drop before xmas has slowed as well...
Only one thing matters in making the real money in the gaming business and that is software sales. And thier is no question that the 360 is destroying both the ps3 and wii combined!
2 years out u and xbots still dont understand that xbox 1 sux and the 360 was rushed out to be another wack console. i cant stand xbots when microsoft says jump and all u bots jump like little lemmings.
Halo is the only game keeping the Xbox 360 alive,seriously
Enjoy it while it last guys,the PS3 will take no prisoners 2008 and on;)
the 360 was fluk just like hd dvd vista
360 wont sale more than 45 million when its all said and done. Watch and see.
This is a joke article, 2.3%?? LOL thats a really small number.
Boring when are they gonna announce new games.
Heres hoping for E3 and Gears 2
halo was the rise of the xbox and now it has become the fall.come on over to UT3 on the ps3,we have halo maps to cook on UT3MOD.COM and its free.PLAY B3YOND way B3YOND!
It won't be over until MS decides to stop making games for the 360. A little game called Gears of War 2 will make a huge impact. Not to mention, UT3 will be on 360 soon. Sure it won't have mods, but oh well.
Not to mention all of the heavy hitting games that used to be PS exclusives like DMC, GTA and Resident Evil will help too.
Then there's other big exclusives like Fable 2 and Splinter Cell to look forward too.
To each his own. Enjoy playing your PS3, and many of us will enjoy our 360's.
I agree that 360 sales might suffer now that Halo 3 is in the past, but attributing this to a 2.3% drop in sales is nothing really.
It would be interesting to see how the 360 will do with out the "halo effect" this year.
PS3TRoids better believe that cuz if they don't, they'll end up buying lair again. LOL
ps3rd sold 10 concols in 1 country wene it was released have a look on the internet
1. In 2006 the x360 didn't have the wii and PS3 competing like in 2007.
2. This period in 2006 is when Gears was released and i believe also this is when alot of the hardcore xbox fanbase migrated to x360 as the xbox wasn't supported anymore.