Submitted by LaurenKB123 1140d ago | opinion piece

5 Ways Microsoft Horribly Botched E3 2012

From the PlanetPlaystation.com feature editorial:

"Admittedly, Microsoft had some tough competition this year. With Nintendo pulling through with a brand new console and Sony playing their hand tight—but leaking out quite a bit of intriguing information—the XBOX 360 didn’t have very much to contend with. However, even disregarding the competition, Microsoft botched up their presentation with a mediocre performance. Here are Microsoft’s five mistakes that made an average presentation terrible." (Dance Central 3, E3, Halo 4, Microsoft, PS3, Splinter Cell: Retribution, Xbox 360)

LaurenKB123  +   1140d ago
Sony def. won the pressers...
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NastyLeftHook0  +   1140d ago
Yes, Sony and Ubisoft won for this years e3, I thoroughly enjoyed watching the watchdog demo as it was incredibly fresh and something demanding as it almost gave a hint into next gen.

And sony had much going on, But the two that stood out for me was The last Of Us, And Beyond Two Souls, Those titles were both original and unique (something the industry needs today)
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LaurenKB123  +   1140d ago
Ubisoft won E3 2012 by far; I would say that Star Wars 1313 game did but it was just a teaser, same with the Final Fantasy one...
EVILDEAD360  +   1140d ago
AKA..the exact 5 reasons why you could arguably say MS actually won E3..
LMAO @ still throwing fanblogger pebbles at MS E3 conference 2 months later.

I love the hypocrisy after this year's E3 because almost ALL the supposed criticism as to why MS did sooo bad was even worse on the other stages.

Meaning if you are bashing Micrsoft then you are ALSO bashing Sony, Nintendo, AND Ubisoft.

1. MS wisely used Usher instead if the usual no-name dancers that were on the E3 stage the two games prior, to promote his role in the game by singing a current top 10 song in both the US & UK.

If you are pretending that THAT was so horrible, then you HAVE to bash Ubisoft for pening the show with Flo-rida (lol) and a buch of dancers for Just Dance 4. (And MANY people keep saying that Ubisoft won E3). I won't even go into the 'Sing' presentation for Wii-U.

2. If you are going to bash MS promoting Kinect with EA's two biggest sports titles, an Angry Birds type game, and Nike+ (which is in competition with Wii-U fit) then you HAVE to Bash Sony in a HUGE way for the Wonderbook presentation.

MS would have been ridiculed off of the planet EARTH had they had been the ones to show off Wonderbook. Skittles even laughed at how bad (not the game) but the E3 presentation of it was. But Sony amazingly got a straight pass.

3. If you are going to bash MS for 'relying on multi-plats' by showing off Black Ops 2 and Tomb Raider..then you have to bash Sony for showing off Assassin's creed 3 and Far Cry 3. plus it was Sony who actually promoted a special Assasin's creed PS3 at it's conference. If that's not relying on a multi-plat then I don't know what is.

Fanbloggers like the author can hate the games on the MS stage all day long, but the facts are MS had the #1 anticipated and biggest exclusive of 2012 on it's stage in Halo 4. Micrsoft also had the #1 franchise game in the entire industry on it's stage as well.

I'm not bashing Sony or any of the others, I'm simply pointing out that ALL of the conferences made the same supposed mistakes.

Everyone including the author has the right to his opinion, but IMO if those reasons are 'botching' E3, then MS needs to botch every one of their conferences..because the REAL winners of E3 will be determined when these games, tech, and hardware release this year and next.

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Lvl_up_gamer  +   1139d ago
Well Said EvilDead360

I walked away satisfied with both MS's and Sony's conferences. Both had some low points and both had some high points. But that was just ME, just because I wasn't a fan of 20 minutes of Wonderbook or 10 minutes of Usher doesn't mean that the message was lost that both MS and Sony were trying to relay.

MS's high points for me was Halo 4, Forza Horizon, Call of Duty.

MS's low point was Usher.

Sony's high points were The last of Us, AC III and Beyond 2 souls.

Sony's down points was wonderbook and Vita coverage.

However just because what I personally perceived as high points and low points doesn't mean that they were the same for others.

I am really looking forward to the last of us and Halo 4.

Can't wait.
Patriots_Pride  +   1140d ago
Yes! That Wonder Book was amazing!

Edit @ below : I agree Harry Potter is much cooler than Usher.

Relax dude I was just making a joke dont take it personal. The entire E3 this year sucked major @$$ and if it was not for WATCH DOG I would have probably found a new hobby.
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NastyLeftHook0  +   1140d ago
It was better than usher.
guitarded77  +   1140d ago
No, they both sucked.
LaurenKB123  +   1140d ago
It was better than Usher... - and I agree it was a very "limbo" like E3, with everything on the horizon and nothing shown...plus don't buy that Battlefield 4 means no new consoles in 2013 BS; I can see a 2013 release for the next Xbox, but I could also see a Sept. 2014 release... we shall see...
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Patriots_Pride  +   1140d ago
@Lauren - I have had my 360 and PS3 since launch and I am 200% ready to move on to the next gen but if your prediction is correct and we wont see next gen consoles until 2014 then I am buying a Wii U : (

6 years in the tech world is dinosaur age...try using your 6 year old cell phone or 6 year old laptop now and tell me how it performs?

I really dont want to buy a Wii U but Sony and MS have giving me no option, it like they did not learn from the Wii and not taken the Wii U a serious competitor.
fermcr  +   1140d ago
Both Microsoft and Sony botched E3 2012.
Ubisoft was the best at E3 and after them it was EA.
Jazz4108  +   1140d ago
Why are people hating on ms for having usher for dance central when ubisoft did the same thing with flo rider for just dance? Why does ubisoft get a free pass? Wonderbook was horrible and 20 minutes long. All three did bad with ubisoft showing the most intriquing lineup only because of watchdogs or was it Toby Turner? Las question this site is getting worse then msxbox reporting on playstation. Can't the sites just report on there own shows instead of a biased view on others. Like it would take a fanboy sites opinion on ms okay.
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UltimaEnder  +   1140d ago
Not sure it was that bad
aviator189  +   1140d ago
Honestly, I didn't think it was as bad as this article makes it out to be. I was disappointed, yes. However, I was disappointed with all three this year. The only one that really excited me was Ubisoft. They're doing an incredible job with their games.
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Skateboard  +   1140d ago
How the F didn't the Sony press conference didn't impress you ? Not even a little ? LOL.

Last Of Us, Beyond Two Souls and ACIII Liberation on a HANDHELD was disappointing like Kinect /s.

Why can't people admit Sony is that damn good. Is it because Sony fans are dicks ?

Imagine if the roles was reversed and X-box was getting all the banging exclusives we are getting, LOL. They would talk so much ####.

Denial and Pride is they best friends. Last Of Us, Beyond Two Souls, GOW AS and AC III LB compared to Gears OF War, Halo 4, Kinect and Usher. Yeah I would say its a tie, LOLOLOLOLOLOLLOL

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JBSleek  +   1140d ago
"Why can't people admit Sony is that damn good. Is it because Sony fans are dicks ?"

YES!! They are so annoying acting like Sony is the second coming and can't do any wrong. I would love to be a Sony fan but I swear their fans sell their souls and intellect. I swear they are a cult.

Besides Last of Us the games were alright didn't impress me as ACIII has been shown lots, GOW is the same formula but it isn't broke so I don't blame them and if Two Souls is anything like Heavy Rain I will be watching more than I am playing.
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lastofgen  +   1140d ago
It's called having an opinion. Are we supposed to admit to something that we don't agree on? Or maybe you'd rather just live in a world where your viewpoint is always correct and everyone else is wrong.
Seraphemz  +   1140d ago
JBSleek - "I played some devil's advocate but I had to these listed articles are usually riddled with flaws and slight fanboyism/hate" thats funny...so are your comments.

You listed 4 games in your defense below, when only ONE is an exclusive.
You defended Kinect when even 360 fans know that its SHEET and the games suck.
And I would assume MORE people are using the 360 as a gaming device since..IT IS. SO where are the GAMES???!!
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Seraphemz  +   1140d ago
What is this trend now with every other article being a list of " TOP X " or " X reasons ".. i mean damn... isnt there anything else to write?
Hicken  +   1140d ago
There are plenty of other things to write about. But most gaming "journalists" don't have the skills to do more than make up a list about something or another.
tehpees3  +   1140d ago
They had Usher as a major part of the conference. And they ended how we expected them to start. Definitely the worst of the big 3. With one of their major big new IP announcements being..... Nike. Nike. NIKE?
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lastofgen  +   1140d ago
Yeah, and that seriously dull drawn-out WonderBook showing was just so spectacular....

Edit: Well, looking at all the disagrees, I'm guessing that the majority of the people here love wonderbook...
Honestly, if you found wonderbook to be a winner, I honestly don't see how so many people can bash microsoft for showing a few kinect titles at their e3. They're catering to the consumers (10 million+) that have already bought kinects, the same thing that sony is doing with wonderbook. What's so wrong in that?

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HarryMasonHerpderp  +   1140d ago
I admit wonderbook was crap but that was the
only bad game at Sony's conference.

Microsoft's was the poorest of the big 3.
It was just same old same old, no surprises filled with kinect/sports/casual crap and usher.

Seriously it was painful to watch.
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BitbyDeath  +   1140d ago
I think Wonderbook was pretty cool, but you probably need kids to really appreciate it.
cstyle  +   1140d ago
So what..Microsoft uses celebrities to sell just like sony(kevin Butler). Singer or actor, it makes no difference. Or do you guys actually think KB loves Playstation or that is his real name.
Psycho_PS3Truthh  +   1140d ago
Ubisoft was the big winner of E3 for delivering a pressconference that was near flawless from beginning to end.

But for the Big 3 sony is surely the best and most intellectual with there conference delivering the last of us and beyond 2 souls as new IPs while having god of war ascension there too. To be honest sony conference could have been on the same level of ubisoft but its because all of us on the earth already knew about the upcoming games.

Microsoft is focusing on kinect and with the xbox 720 announcement at E3 next year we might see a next gen xbox that focus completely on Kinect version 2 for all eternity and it will not stand up near to the mighty PS4 console. Microsoft better buy activision for some core IP because people wont buy kinect games as launch titles when the raining heavy weight champion in gaming unleash the PS4 upon mankind.

Sony will not allow the kinect to fooled people anymore.
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JBSleek  +   1140d ago
And people wonder why I don't like Sony fans.

An article about Microsoft becomes the battle ground for hailing Sony.
Seraphemz  +   1140d ago
An article about how Microsoft did something wrong, and people comparing it to a company that did it right bothers you???
lastofgen  +   1140d ago
Oh god, psycho_ps3truthh is the largest and most obnoxious sony supporter to exist. I'm guessing you have migrated from IGN...

Also, why are you focusing so much on kinect. At e3 2012, kinect actually had the least showing time ever since kinect launched. What is wrong to catering to your consumers?? It's just as sony is doing with their wonderbook product for their move devices. Or would you rather they just completely abandon support for them? Either way, I'm sure you'll find some fault with microsoft.
Psycho_PS3Truthh  +   1140d ago
2010 e3 microsoft role with kinect

2011 they role with kinect

2012 the difference they role with online and smartglass with a little kinect, they decided to spread out there third party games upon the earth by announcing them through the show innstead of showing them all at the beginning of the show like in 2011. Still focusing on third party and online will not cater to me as a gamer.

Wonderbook is just and add on to the Eye toy and it did not take over the entire master piece conference from sony, if it did like how microsoft love to do it then there would be anger among PS3 gamers like me. Microsoft needs to find the balance between core and casual before next gen or the PS4 will tear them apart for all eternity. I even have more respect now for nintendo because they are trying to balance casual and core even though they still have much to prove.
Dms2012  +   1140d ago
I don't believe your even serious, your just trying to piss people off. By any chance are you also IvanPSP on GamerBlorge? Your gibberish looks familiar.
JBSleek  +   1140d ago
This article is about a month too late actually but okay I'll bite.

5. Mediocre games:
That is subjective in the least. Tomb Raider, Halo, Splinter Cell, Black Ops 2. Sounds like a good list.

4. 4. Terrible Celebrity Performances:
I'll agree. Could of went without.

3. Poor Performances All Around
Once again subjective.

2. Everything Kinect
They are supporting a machine that has sold countless millions. I don't personally enjoy Kinect besides voice command but they can't abandon something that 1/3 of their user base has.

1.Focusing On Software:
How dare a software company focus on software. I am so ashamed. When people now use Xbox as more of a media device then gaming now that isn't their fault.

I played some devil's advocate but I had to these listed articles are usually riddled with flaws and slight fanboyism/hate.
DiRtY  +   1140d ago
I agree 100%. Kinect was not even the main focus of the press conference.

Of course MS announced way more games than Sony, but I think a site called planetplaystation.com is not as unbiased as you would have thought.
Seraphemz  +   1140d ago
Can you list these " way more games"?? Not including multiconsole games.
BitbyDeath  +   1140d ago
If said list does get created best to leave out Kinect and XBL games from it.
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DiRtY  +   1139d ago
yup, here you go with the facts:

Number of 360 games shown: 17
Number of PS3 games shown: 7

Number of 360 exclusives shown: 11
Number of PS3 exclusives shown: 5

Number of new announcements (games we did not know about before E3):

Xbox 360: 7 (Dance Central 3, Lococycle, Matter, Ascend: New Gods, Splinter Cell Blacklist, SouthPark, Nike+)
PS3: 2 (Wonderbook and Beyond)

All this "do not include XBLA and Kinect" just proves how desperate people get. Why exclude games I will be playing and paying for? Do you want to ignore games 4 million people spend $50 on, because they are not your taste? I bet you would have a different oppinion if PS Move was not that failure that it is.

Downloadable games offer some of the best experiences this generation (Braid, Limbo, Trials, Fez, Castle Crashers, Geometry Wars, Journey, you name it)

You probably want me to exclude games that are available on PC as well. This is basically admitting that you need at least a $400 gaming PC to compete.
MaxXAttaxX  +   1138d ago
Voice command can be done with any regular mic/headset.
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Wikkid666  +   1140d ago
Why hell are we still having this crap article?
Dlacy13g  +   1140d ago
because you are still at N4G and these articles get the hits.
from the beach  +   1140d ago
6. Red Ring of Death.
7. Have to pay for Xbox Live.
8. No Exclusives (XBLA / Kinect don't count).
9. Blu Ray beat HD DVD.
10. Closed down studios.

Come on PlayStation Planet, if you're gonna troll do it properly!
Hicken  +   1140d ago
... only #8 has anything even remotely to do with E3.
killyourfm  +   1140d ago
6 weeks after E3, and from a site called "PlanetPlaystation." There's no way this is unbiased :D
AngelicIceDiamond  +   1140d ago
Considering not a single child actor was present, the pacing was good and MS didn't spend the entire press conference on Kinect rather reminded us it will have Kinect enabled in most of there content. Everyone says it "sucked" because no Ip were present. Yeah that part sucked but it doesn't mean the whole entire thing was bad. We have sequels Multi million selling franchises. Kinect enabled content and Kinect games (if your into it that) new dashboard entertainment a ton of XBL games as well as timed DLC content for popular games. The conference wasn't perfect but it was hell of allot better than E3 2010 and 11.

The fact that people are saying Nintendo did better than MS is joke, a complete joke. How, because they have new hardware, fine, that automatically gives it the edge over MS's and Sony's conference. but it still remains, "Nintendo, has new hardware that they didn't bother to talk about at E3."
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ChunkyLover53  +   1140d ago
I think this was the first E3 that I walked away from and said nobody won. If I had to pick I'd say Ubisoft, but of the three console makers, I think they were all just average and at some point, they all lost the point.

I'd say Microsoft did a good job of toning down the Kinect, but I actually would of liked a decent Fable The Journey Demo, maybe show off Overrun in Gears Judgement and show Forza Horizon.

Sony usually surprises me every year, but didn't this year. I knew what to expect, except I expected some Vita coverage, since I'm still on the fence about getting one, I was disappointed with the lack of any time spent on it, instead opting for a "Wonderbook" demo that took almost 20 minutes. Thank goodness God Of War and The Last Of Us closed out the show, those games both look great!

Nintendo left me scratching my head, it would have been the perfect time to announce the price and release date, maybe actually show the console a bit.

Clearly Microsoft and Sony are biding time until they can reveal next generation stuff next year, Nintendo kind of dropped the ball, everyone was expecting them to blow us all away and it didn't really happen.

New hardware is a thing to get excited about, I didn't really get that from Nintendo's show. I still like the Wii U though, just thought their E3 was poor at showing it off.
oakshin  +   1140d ago
sony promised more then they could deliver as usual but in comparison they "won" they didnt have alot of 3rd paery games they pushed like exclusives like microsoft did and always does
cstyle  +   1140d ago
And they wonder why they have struggled to outsell MS in the US this gen. They may have more exclusive 1st party games but I'm willing to bet that from a business perspective, Microsoft or Nintendo would never wanna trade places with them.
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oakshin  +   1139d ago
im a consumer i dont care about sells really u make no since
OrKuun  +   1140d ago
It's weird how little I care :P

I just watched for Halo 4.
TotalSynthesisX  +   1140d ago
Same here. The Halo 4 part ended as did my interest in the entire E3 conference.
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