While everyone is talking about how much they want to play Battlefield 4, it's announcement today by EA has big ramifications on when next generation game systems like the next Xbox or Playstation 4 will release.
Check out the full story for more details on how Battlefield 4's beta reveal means there will be no new consoles from Microsoft or Sony in 2013.
20°
300°
100°
80°
Ad 
170°
20°
20°
0°
0°
Looking for hits
The PS3 and 360 will by that time likely have a combined install base well north of 160 million. Is it worth the effort to release on the next gen consoles when they will likely have less than a 30 million combined install base?
Many developers will decide it's worth it but don't be surprised when some games don't make it to the new consoles in their first year of release.
As soon as I knew Madden 14 would be out I knew there would be no PS4 or 720 .... what a moron!
In an interview leading up to bf3, or maybe just after it released. They were talking about how frostbite 3 was designed for next gen and they only scaled it back for current gen bf3.
This could very well be a next gen title,
I don't like it either, but there's still some juice left in the PS3. The 360 however, needs more exclusives. Maybe that's why so many Xbox guys are even more weary of the current gen than the PS3 guys.
Microsoft needs to give current customers a reason to stick things through with the 360, if their not at least gonna give them the 720 in coming months.
Regarding BF4, DICE had stated at some point that BF3/Frostbite 2 was originally designed for next gen. I'd predict that BF4 will be released across current AND next gen titles next year.
because this game has nothing to do with sony's or microsof's strategy ( like duuh we should wait until every big game that is not even first party to release then we make our move loooool ) this scenario is called (no strategy at all )
both ps3 and xbox360 are still 250-300 bucks so unless both system get a 100-150 price drop with in the next 12 months its not happening
i have always said and believed that fall 2014 is when we will see new systems and i am sticking with it
"Yeah, I'll be honest with you -- Frostbite 2 was built for the next generation,"
EA told CVG at E3 this month it's working on "three to five" original next-gen games. We wonder how many are running on Frostbite 2.
I'm gonna say it, I reckon BF4 will be PC only and then released on next gen consoles when they arrive.
Try more like 2014 late reveal -2015 !!!
And please spare me if your going to quote those rubish leaked documents , there isn't any need for new consoles yet
Just buy the WII U hahahahahha
( disagree all you want the truth hurts sometimes lmao )
The PS3 and XBOX 360 still have so much power that they can use.
All you guys want is better graphics so you can try and brag to the PC gamers.
There glory days of nintendo gaming are coming to a slow end and WII ain't there to save them this time
Plus Your talking about Ms/Sony they won't be bringing any next-gen consoles before really late 2014 or 2015 ( they will reveal at E3 next year tibits just to make the whiners happy , but there wont be any next-gen console besides the wii u coming soon !!
NO Next_gen !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yay
look up Wii U's specs and Google its GPU followed by BF3 to get some "clarity" on the matter.
PC beta - Fall 2013
PC release - Spring 2014 (2.5 years after BF3)
Console release - Nov/Dec 2014 (on next gen consoles)
That's plenty of time between games, and we'd get BF4 at launch. Fingers crossed.
Granted this is all baseless speculation and hasn't been verified or researched in any manner, so honestly I have no damn clue.
My prediction: MS launches their next system late 2013
Sony launches Spring 2014
MS is clearly ready for the next-gen. You can tell by their attitude. A lot of MS's studios have been really quiet, they're likely working on next-gen titles for the console's launch.
Sony's a bit harder to figure out, but I can't see them letting MS get another full year head start this time.
We already know Ready at Dawn's making a next-gen third-person action-adventure game (why do I suspect something... God of War-like?), Guerrilla's working on two titles, one of which is Killzone 4, Naughty Dog has the entire team of Uncharted doing something, and Insomniac must be doing another game besides R&C: Full Frontal Assault. Evolution Studios is probably making another MotorStorm, MediaMolecule is likely making another game as well.
I can't imagine the PS4 not having a great launch lineup.
besides the studios you mentioned sony has a handful studios which haven't shown anything for a while which I believe they are working on launch titles.
I think EA probably saw that Activision was going to release a COD game on PS3/PS4, Xbox 360/720 and the Wii U + PC. That is far too big a pie for Activision to eat alone.
Judging by how lame E3 was this past year, new consoles are coming next year. Which is why we haven't seen any games pushed far back into 2013, all the key games are releasing before the big E3 reveals.
So, it may work out well for them, as they'll have a very good engine that will allow them to port the game on both next, and current, gen hardware.
Imagine the next gen versions offering 60fps and 64 man online or something along those lines? Makes sense to offer both, because we are going to see less and less current gen games released in the holiday months due to the release of new hardware and software.
@CGI-Quality
Hopefully you were kidding? There were some decent things shown at E3, but overall there were absolutely no surprises and very few new offerings. I thought it was one of the worst E3's I've seen in a long, long time. It might have surpassed the 2005/2006 E3's.
OT: Battlefield 4 could easily release as a dual gen title.
If you dont think we should have next-gen consoles right now I just want you to google: 60fps, 1080p, 64-player servers, hi-res textures... and thats only to name a few features we PC players are, and have been, enjoying each day.
Now commence the hate.
I will get one of the new consoles because I like sitting on the couch and the seamless integration of media but for now I will stick to PC
Now commence the hate."
Opinions other than yours aren't "hate". I don't need a new console yet because I'm still looking forward to games on my current console. I don't need to google those terms to know the only one of them that's a real game changing factor is having more players on a server. I have games on my console that do that number and more. The other things on your list are nice, but not things that completely change a game. You could have listed much more relevant reasons to game on PC. The bottom line for me is that the games I want to play are mostly on my console.
You think 64 player vs 24 players doesn't change the game? It does.
Planetside 2 has 2000 players.
I agree that neither Sony or MS would let such a lead time to Nintendo.
The cake is a lie.
Sorry had to.
In true response to your statement i did say "EA" obviously cannot create Battlefield 4.
Naughty Dog is a whole other barrel of fish who are not only extremely talented but also have the luxuary of coding for one system as opposed to multiple.
This is likely where the real problems lie. It's not that EA are dumb, just that they do not have the time/money to code independently for every device and therefore are forced to make shortcuts to bring out games in a timely manner.
The reason i mentioned B3 barely working is because of all the cuts they made the biggest of course being reducing the number of players in a match.
As almost every single big release is scheduled for the beginning of next year i'd say the chances of an end of 2013 release for new consoles it pretty high.
Really hate it when people say this. If they're so "lazy" as you call it, why don't you go ahead and show them how it's done? Creating a game is an insane amount of work, and time restrictions and deadlines further complicate the situations.
Furthermore, there are some hard limits that you won't be able to get around, no matter how much work you put in your game. To say a developer is lazy because they didn't breach these barriers, or didn't manage to pull everything up to a higher standard due to time restrictions is ignorant and arrogant at best.
@Sjakiejj
Lol it's not like my career is going to be a videogame designer. And I just started college this year. But I worked in construction my whole life so don't tell me what job is complicated and what isn't.
I merely said they were lazy for the fact that they boasted how the game will be like no other graphically and how they can't wait to move onto to next gen when they couldn't even render a game at 720P at the current gen. Like I said it's DICE who signed with EA so it's their own fault if they rush their products. Better to be an independent developer.
I don't like the fact that developers promise one thing and then come out short with their products. I love BF3 online but it made me sad that it came out a little more like COD. God knows how much time I put into Battlefield 1942, that will always be in my memories.
"This is likely where the real problems lie. It's not that EA are dumb, just that they do not have the time/money to code independently for every device and therefore are forced to make shortcuts to bring out games in a timely manner"
nobody is rushing DICE to develop faster and nobody is rushing EA to publish their games. In fact BF3 is still new to pretty much every BF player out there. EA definitely has the money so that is no excuse for them.
"The reason i mentioned B3 barely working is because of all the cuts they made the biggest of course being reducing the number of players in a match."
Right but this has to do with their servers not their current gen tech. And They stated why players were cut out of BF3. It has nothing to do with limited resources they just believed that console gamers would have more fun playing on consoles at a steady amount of players. Look at Resistance 2 it has 60 players online and MAG has 256 so that is no excuse for them.
"I'm still expecting nextgen consoles to launch at the end of next year and so far as almost every single big release is scheduled for the beginning of the year it also points in this direction"
I respect your beliefs and I have no doubts on that but does it really make sense to sell BF4 betas through a current gen game and then able to use them on a next gen system? It's kind of extreme and I don't see this happening.
Some devs have already come out and said they are working on nextgen consoles so i'd imagine that would mean dev kits have gone out already.
It is 'different' to develop for the PS3, due to the setup not sure if 'harder' really qualifies. PS2 was said to be 'harder' to develop for than the PS3. And yea porting doesn't work real well as you know since the hardware is vastly different.
"nobody is rushing DICE to develop faster and nobody is rushing EA to publish their games. In fact BF3 is still new to pretty much every BF player out there. EA definitely has the money so that is no excuse for them."
EA have always had a massive focus on money so i'd say the push to rush things out would be coming from them. Have not been a fan of them since they shut down Bullfrog.
"Right but this has to do with their servers not their current gen tech. And They stated why players were cut out of BF3. It has nothing to do with limited resources they just believed that console gamers would have more fun playing on consoles at a steady amount of players. Look at Resistance 2 it has 60 players online and MAG has 256 so that is no excuse for them."
I didn't listen to their PR statements cause usually PR is just that, so i agree it really was no excuse.
"I respect your beliefs and I have no doubts on that but does it really make sense to sell BF4 betas through a current gen game and then able to use them on a next gen system? It's kind of extreme and I don't see this happening."
They could possibly go with both. Gotta say though with all their limitations brought in on 3 it would be disappointing if they wasted effort on trying to bring 4 to current gen as well if they are not fully invested to bring something of higher quality.
"Some devs have already come out and said they are working on nextgen consoles so i'd imagine that would mean dev kits have gone out already.
It is 'different' to develop for the PS3, due to the setup not sure if 'harder' really qualifies. PS2 was said to be 'harder' to develop for than the PS3. And yea porting doesn't work real well as you know since the hardware is vastly different. "
Devs working on nextgen consoles or games you mean? But that would be still pretty much useless considering there is still no confirmation of next gen systems. They say that but those are still words. And there are still no confirmation of developer kits either so what developers say are just words again. And no I'm pretty sure developers had said they had a harder time decoding games on the PS3 than the 360 and it would take more time and effort so they would just port the games from the 360 which supports the fact that DICE are in fact lazy. As they are given the choice to develop on consoles separately.
"EA have always had a massive focus on money so i'd say the push to rush things out would be coming from them. Have not been a fan of them since they shut down Bullfrog."
Yeah they do have a focus on money but that still doesn't give them the reason to rush their products. In fact they would be losing money as consumers would not be so eager to buy a new game soon since this one just recently came out. By the time they do buy the game they will just be the game used or for a cheaper price a year later.
I was a big fan of bullfrog productions so I know what you mean.
"They could possibly go with both. Gotta say though with all their limitations brought in on 3 it would be disappointing if they wasted effort on trying to bring 4 to current gen as well if they are not fully invested to bring something of higher quality."
I still don't get why people say they can go with both. If the game is being released on current gen consoles AND next gen then there would be no reason to be purchasing the game for next gen consoles or the consoles itself. Especially considering it's released on current gen consoles. Not only that they are limiting them selves from using full potential of BF4 on Next gen consoles just because they are releasing the game on current gen. So it would not be smart of them at all to release on both current gen and next gen at the same time.
Also they would make more profit releasing BF4 on current gen consoles considering there are 60+ million consoles sold. And next gen consoles are just being released. So not every battlefield player will have a PS4 or xbox 720.
They beta codes in the 360/PS3 versions of MOH will be for the 360/PS3 versions of Battlefield 4. That has to be a given right? I guess it's not completely out of the question but that would be pretty extreme if they ship PS4/720 codes.
Sony wont fuck up there 6 yrs of coming out with the new system
"The exclusive Battlefield 4 beta will be available in Fall 2013. Additional details regarding Battlefield 4 will be revealed at a later date."
The beta does have a release date.
Nothing to say it can't happen.
DICE with BF isn't in need of the Consoles like CoD cause Battlefield is selling millions alone on PC.
They can wait.