KojiPro explains why it took so long to add trophies to Metal Gear Solid 4

Kojima Productions’ Sean Eyestone explains why it took so long to add trophy support for the Playstation 3 exclusive title, Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots.

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NBT911859d ago

Better on time than late.

Baka-akaB1859d ago

lol really smart when they never gave you a time to begin with

chazjamie1859d ago

what projects is this guy talking about. they make it seem like they created a plethora of games already. basically they didnt give a shit and had no intention of doing it. its trophies, not dlc. what a pathetic excuse.

Ares84HU1859d ago

Yeah, it should be released sooner to be honest. But I was waiting for trophy support to get back to MGS4. When it came out I played it for months and it was great.

Does anyone know when it's out exactly???

Dasteru1859d ago

On who's time? Kojima never previously gave a release date so "on time" is whenever it happens to release.

_-EDMIX-_1858d ago

does someone even care? I'm a huge MGS fan, played every MGS no less then 5 times, played MGS3 over 13 times! And very much plan to get the HD collection for it and i have to say....who cares?

Are you guys mad? Its trophies, what is it going to do for you? I've never understood why anyone would care. I mean are you guys really crying over something that flashes on the screen after you complete something?

I didn't care for silly achievements and when Trophys came out, i cared for them even less.

Kojima has better things to do then was time on trophies. making MGS Peace Walker, over seeing Rising, over seeing the MGS HD collections, over seeing MGS3 for 3DS, over seeing ZOE HD collection, producing ZOE III, making MGS5...oh yeah and developing a new engine for all 3 systems. Out of all that, i just don't care if trophies where never released for it. There are more important projects to finish.

Gaming1011858d ago

A lot of people lost hope years ago for trophies, as it was never a priority, they didn't bother hiring any new programmers (it's an entry level project, making a game trophy enabled) so it was never a concern. People didn't shout loud enough, and the cost benefit analysis just wasn't there.

The problem now is people will have to buy back the game if they sold it. I kept mine, but for those who didn't, the question becomes whether they would be willing to buy it again just for trophies, and if so are they buying it brand new? Because if they buy it used, which I take it the vast majority of them will, then Konami won't see a dime from it, so I don't see the cost benefit here from Konami's standpoint.


crxss1858d ago

maybe they planned this, as in announce trophy support and a full install option knowing a flock of us would return to mgs4, shame they're doing this after mgo just went offline.

badz1491858d ago

WTF haters? nobody is forcing anybody to replay through MGS4 again just because it has trophies! it's just an update to refresh an old game and personally, I think this is pure FAN SERVICE!

just think about it! MGS4 sold like 6+mil and bagged them a lot of profit already and MGS5 is also already confirmed! why would they even care to add trophies to the 4 years old MGS4? FAN SERVICE! personally, I am grateful that this is finally happening! MGS4 is simply 1 of my favorite game of all time and now I will bring myself to play it again just for the trophies and I'll have it posted on my profile proudly!

GTAIV didn't have trophies at 1st and I couldn't bring myself to finish it and when the trophies were added, I play it 1 more time and I still can't bring myself to finish it too! I've finished MGS4 3 times and now with trophies? IT CAN'T COME SOON ENOUGH!

Korix1858d ago

To those saying they never gave a release date for trophies and therefore can't have been late - guess what - trophies don't *get* release dates, they are a basic part of every proper PS3 game and are expected to ship along with the game. Any later than release date is late. Stop pretending they can't be blamed for late trophy support. It's like saying CoD can't be blamed for after-release online support. It's such a basic thing that it needs to be there from the start.

Dasteru1857d ago


It would be great if game companies could do the impossible but unfortunately they can't. MGS4 came out in June 08, Trophies weren't patched into the PS3 firmware til July 08.

You may "expect" the impossible but most gamers have enough common sense not to.

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pixelsword1859d ago

*Looks at copy of Resistance: Fall of Man*


*Throws at pet store across the street*

*gets gang-chomped by puppies*

Larry L1859d ago (Edited 1859d ago )


Those are the only 3 pre-trophy games I think really deserved to get a trophy update. MGS4, Heavenly Sword and Oblivion.

Heavenly Sword I understand though. It was a victim of the time. Thrashed by the media, not only the game, but PS3 at the time too, and the install base was low. So the game didn't sell great.

But neither Konami nor Bethesda have any excuse (imo) for not adding trophies to these games. There was huge demand for MGS4 trophies, and all Bethesda would've had to do was port over the Live achievments. Not only that but Oblivion has even had a recent re-release (what was it?, last year?), why didn't the PS3 version get trophies then?

But I digress, I'm happy MGS4 is getting trophies now, and I'm going to rebuy the game in a couple days to prepare. Can't wait.

Corepred41858d ago

I will never have as much fun with another game on ps3 as I had with Resistance: Fall of Man. Say what you want but I LOVED that game! COD my ass! RFOM was in my ps3 almost 95% of the time!

roguewarrior1858d ago

@ corepred4

Agreed, Played the shit out of that game. Also the game that got me addicted to online MP

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-GametimeUK-1859d ago

Better late than never, but never late is better.

andibandit1859d ago

took so long because he was busy trying to figure out his own storyline.

Reibooi1859d ago

I actually like the timing to be honest. I loved MGS4 when i played it but it was such a satisfying conclusion that I probably at the time wouldn't have wanted to play it a ton more just to get trophies but now that it's been a few years. I can go back and take my time and do what I want to get the trophies without feeling the pressure to plow through the game to see the story.

I know it doesn't make alot of sense but yeah I like the timing.

t0mmyb0y1858d ago

I'm in the exact same boat as you.

WeskerChildReborned1858d ago

True that, i never really thought MGS4 would get trophys but now, i think it's awesome they are adding them.

ReservoirDog3161858d ago

Haha, true....

Now they need to add trophies to Valkyria Chronicles and rerelease it on the PS Store. They'd sell so much and finally make us (me) really happy.

showtimefolks1858d ago

i started playing like my 5th or 6th play through but now i stopped when trophies launch it will be a special feeling to play

i bet you there will be trophies for 2nd or 3rd play through for not skipping cut scenes

Xenial1858d ago

Never late is better.

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xtremeimport1858d ago

summary "we just didnt really want to"

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bahabeast1859d ago

i payed $110.00 for this game in 2008 trophies was on NO GAMES still have the cd im gonna play it again

TronEOL1859d ago

Same here. Still have my collectors edition sitting on my shelf. Can't wait to pop it open again and platinum the poop out of this game.


I payed around 150 USD (250 BRL at the time) for the standard version... The game was imported as PS3 games only started releasing here in 2010. With high taxes and the uber demand, the only version available at stores got that high, some people payed even more, but I don't regret getting it on release, it was major fun through single player and the multiplayer held me for some good six months (despite the whole Konami ID matter).

My only regret is that I recently re-played it with my cousin. And actually had a hard time making a no kills, no deaths and no alerts playthrouh... Oh well, not like I really mind playing it again, it's really fun!

SnotyTheRocket1859d ago

I paid $100, the day it came out. Best Buy only had the Collectors Edition, so, I was forced to buy that. Never regretted it. Still have it.

Snookies121859d ago

Woo! Still have my Collector's Edition as well! Sitting up proudly displayed on my dresser, exactly where it should be... Where everyone can see it lol.