The 360 vs PS3 vs Wii generation has been a close battle on many fronts, with all three able to make claims for victory. Here is one interpretation of who gained the most ground this generation.
So you pick the 360 as the winner (even if the war isn't really over) and wrote this: "They had arguably the worst start of all three consoles this generation, but have undergone an amazing transformation" Sounds more like the PS3 to me.
I say the worst start because RROD was killing them. Granted PS3 has come a long way also. 360 has to be the most transformed console in history, if you compare the system software (dashboard) it had originally to what it has today, that user interface, all those extra features and services filled in, tight Kinect integration. And then the hardware itself overcoming the RROD, operating much more quietly, allowing full game installs from DVD and booting from USB drives. The list goes on.
PS3 had a bigger transformation and is the most transformed in history, it basically started from scratch with the online this gen, look at it now... thats a huge step. it even added it's own huge social network PS HOME. then there's 3D, ps3 motes, it didnt even have rumble in the beginning, it didn't even have games cause 360 was getting them all. Sony added more First party developers and so many exclusive games, how many devs did MS buy and how many AAA exclusive games were funded? now all the extra features and services added in. psp and psV remote connectivity. now the TV that has the hologram split screen thing. not only are they the most transformed, they are the most innovative.
Am giving u a bubble up vote just for standing your ground against the the red sun fans.
the gamers won this gen, straight up
@postedup You're giving Sony props for its so-called transformation of its online system?? If anything, this is the area where Sony fails. You say it started from scratch; who's fault is that? Credit has to go to Microsoft for being as successful as it is now considering how it was such a new contender in the console race. People forget how Sony pretty much had a monopoly in the console market in the previous generation. People were scoffing at the one year lead Microsoft was going to have, thinking that once Sony came out onto the market, it would obliterate competition. It obviously didn't. Let's look at the strengths this generation per company: Nintendo: Brought gaming to the masses and popularised gaming beyond what many ever anticipated would happen. Gaming suddenly wasn't the past time of a few. The mammoth sales speak for themselves. Sony: Quite a poor start but the PS3 really regained its ground in the later years. A slew of excellent titles and exclusives keep pouring in and more than make up for the deficit at the start. MGS and Uncharted are seminal titles and the likes of the Last of Us mean there is plenty more to come. Microsoft: Started the ground running with lots of exclusives and really expanded on its online features. Xbox Live has really become its own and MS really did innovate when it came to the console; well thought out interface, sculpted feel of the controller, achievements, ever changing Xbox Live which social functionality that no console competitor can match. Great exclusives in almost every genre (although more are needed now). RROD was a disaster though (like the PSN hacking fiasco) but MS did rectify the situation somewhat. This generation has given us the most diverse and brilliant gameplay experiences ever. All three consoles have something to offer and the sheer amount of quality games available is staggering. This generation also marked a true awakening of third party developers and excellent titles like Bioshock, Assassins Creed, Battlefield 3, Oblivion, Dead Space, Call of Duty just to name a few. There's something for everyone this generation and thus, the real winners are gamers. If this trend continues on into the next generation, we're in for a real treat.
PS3 was the biggest disappointment, 6 years ago i dont think anyone imagined the PS3 wouldn't live up to the legacy of it's predecessor. I wont deny that today i would pick a PS3 over a 360, but there shouldn't even have been a PS3 vs 360. Sony came from a dominant position and should've squashed MS, but a mixture of. Expensive entry model. Ridonculous launch games. Non existant marketing. Late Entry to market. Arrogant minded approach. Ensured that MS survived. Sure you could argue that MS had problems with RROD, i could counter with Credit card theft mandatory installs Constant updates no x gamechat 70,000,000,000$ deficit and deficit from having to give away free games after Credit Card theft and no online for 1 month. but it's irrelevant. I just hope for the sake of gaming that Sony choses a diffrent approach when the next generation begins. MS learned alot from the previous generation when they had their asses handed to them by Sony, and decided to switch strategy, and Sony decided to do NOTHING, thats how you loose.
They just happen to be the different categories. For the category of Technical abilities, the winner is: PS3 for its inclusion of the next gen movie format and advanced cpu/gpu design. For the category of Marketing, the winner is: 360 for its over the top amount of $$$ put into advertising of multiplatform titles, kinect and non-gaming services. For the category of units sold, the winner is: Wii for its sheer number of units sold to core (minority), casual (majority) and everyone in between. For the category of entertainment value, the winner is: Gamers for being privileged to play such console exclusives as Uncharted, Mario Galaxy, Halo as well as a slew of great 3rd party multiplatform titles like Mass Effect, Bioshock,Assassin Creed. Bottom line...we do not need a single solitary winner in a console war. There is room for multiple winners. Especially us.
I'd pick 360 as the winner too. Look at the positions of MS and Sony at this point in the last generation. Look at where they're at now. Big difference, huh?
If the 360 owners are happy with their console from then till now and think MS won this gen, then so be it. from the RROD to Kinect. yeah, great beginning and end to this gen that the 360 totally deserves to win... Lmfao. Wii won because of what? they sold the cheapest console available, No HD, with nothing but shovelware crap, a handful of good games, then bail out early to make a new console to catch up with current console power?! yeah okay. great victory nintendo. I'm sure your fans are very happy. Now the PS3 at first had a ridiculous price tag, arrogant and barely any launch titles to justify that high price point. bluray was not enough to convince me to get a ps3 then because buying a bluray movie was ridiculously expensive and i mainly wanted it to game... The launch titles were not good enough either... But now, sony has completely done a 360 and convinced me how much they improved in every way. from amazing games that come out constantly to improved free online play to PS+ which I LUV! and even when it seems the other console is dependent only on multiplats, they continue to throw exclusive after exclusive still even when no one else seems to care anymore..... so yes, I pick sony as the winner this gen so far because honestly, it's not even over yet.
"If anything, this is the area where Sony fails" im glad i dont need to waste my time and explain anything to such onesided ignorant nonsense. and although i do give Ms credit, we'e talking physical console transformation, Not their success. so i am right and sony wins on that part imo.
@Posted up How is what I said ignorant one sided nonsense? Someone please explain how this kid has 4 bubbles? Physical transformation? What do you think I'm talking about? You describe PS HOME as a 'huge social network', reference ps3 motes and vibration functionality the reasons for this so called biggest transformation in history??! Lol Wtf?! It's unbelievable how much of a complete blind and hypocritical fanboy you are. As I mentioned in my first post, Sony had a monopoly in the generation prior to this one. You're giving it props for transitioning so poorly into the gen and then recovering from it? I'm sorry but you're in desperate need of education and I just wasted my time and bubble trying to instil some sense into you.
What credit card theft? That never happened, you *****. 360 required an install to get all the cars and tracks in Forza 4. Battlefield 3 also required you to install to get decent textures. Updates are a good thing. And yet, despite all that, they're tied. PS3 is one of the only systems that continue to deliver new IPs. But sure, you can try to spin that negatively.
you sound like you just disregarded all the huge points in my comment on the sony side, a good evasion tactic. your comment it completely one sided, and on top of that the things you mentioned in the microsoft transformation can't touch the incredible amount of molding Sony did this generation. i gave MS credit for things they did, but i honestly cannot make up a list for MS as innovative and big as sony's
How does a console win a war? If it's by sales, then Nintendo won. If it's by popularity, that's difficult to answer. The Xbox is popular in the US and UK but the PS3 is popular everywhere else.
The PS3 is popular in the UK, whos tellin you otherwise? Everybody i know pretty much has a PS3, even those who dont use it to game
I also live in the UK. Everybody I know has a 360. Even the casuals.
Nintendo is certainly leading, but as Yogi Berra would say "It ain't over till it's over". We can be pretty certain the PS3 will continue to sell for many years to come, but we don't yet know what Nintendo and Microsoft will do after they launch their next consoles.
Speak for yourself :P PS3 is popular in all of Asia (Live services are crap here so we don't get Xbox unless we really need Halo or Gears), Australia and Pretty much everywhere where we don't have uncle Sam trying to take over our country :P
If you took a vote on a a xbox fan site then xbox wins hands down There are more sony fans on n4g so sony will win here. In the actaul real world ms was a underdog and sony was a goliath and foranyone to look at the numbers and say sony won when they lost major marketshare are still in third place overall and hae went from a profit house to currently being worth 14 billion with only 10 million cash on hand and these numbers are recent as in today from business weekly. So anyways Nintendo won this gen from a numbers standpoint, ms would be second as they took on a powerhouse company and won a lot of there marketshare and that leaves sony in third. There is no other way to look at it other than to be a fanboy and I kept my comments out of this post and kept it facts. I expect to get many disagrees since I did not say sony won a. A site that favors sony but if I went to a ms site and said the same thing I would expect a lot of agrees. I just hope people will put aside fanboyism a second and look at the facts at company's marketshare and networth as a company at the start of this gen and where they are today 2012. My 2 cents worth:people on here would fight to the ends of the earth to prove that sonys ceo takes a bigger crap on a daily basis then ms ceo. Numbers don't lie but fanboys do.
microsoft came as a underdog with the Xbox alongside well established gaming giants as Nintendo & Sony and look at where they are now. all three done great. Nintendo sale wise and first party games were great. Xbox dominants the living room media device and excellent games too. Sony done great with exlusives and a big change from its launch. Overall Nintendo won business wise...afterall they do this to make money...nintendo made the most along with the ds and 3ds currently.
Sales - Wii Popularity - 360 Exclusives - PS3
ok this post make sense but i thought that ps3 would be more popular actually
I'll agree with that, but there needs to be an asterisk next to "Popularity - 360", and it needs to note popularity being in the US, because world wide 360 is not the most popular console. As a gamer, PS3 is the winner for me. It has given me the most great games to play. Call me a fanboy if you want, but it is my winner this gen. I own multiples of each console, and don't shun the others because they too have provided excellent experiences, but if I had to choose one, it'd be my PS3.
Very bias article. Its funny that he didn't mention the format war hd vs blu ray. Everyone knows how that turned out. Also as I recall the kinect sensor is not as accurate as he's making it out to be. Sony has added a new franchise every year. The PS3 already had features that M$ is just now implementing. Wifi, web surfing, youtube, 3d, blu-ray which the new xbox might be getting, because M$ decided to use old format. sales-Wii Popularity-PS3 Exclusives-PS3 The only place the 360 is popular is in the US. The year head start help the 360 get the lead, and RROD is the biggest F u from M$ by far. M$ knew the 360 had major issues, yet they released it. Also the console war is not over. As of right now NIntendo is winning this gen, because of sales.
Aren't sales and popularity the same thing?
Market share gained - Wii Biggest game selection - 360 Most visionary - PS3
@HumbleOpinion Wow really? Are you seriously going to say that? Name me 5 exclusives not including XBLA games or Halo, Forza, Gears etc. Please do. Ps3 has a much bigger game variety and library. I can name 7 rigt now. God of War. LittlebigPlanet. Uncharted. MGS 4. Starhawk/Warhawk. Resistance. Infamous. Killzone. heavy Rain. Need I go on?
@Hammadtheone you realise there are actually more games avaliable on the 360? It's just there hasnt been many exclusive recently, back in its early life they were churning out things like Kameo, Banjo Kazzoie, Perfect Dark, PGR, however they didn't sell well enough to make money, and that's why m$ business plan changed to less exclusives which sell tonnes, also alot of the old exclusives were from Rare, and we no their now in the Kinect side of things, either way your either trolling or just oblivious.
HammadTheOne, Why should I name just five? Take the whole list instead... Metacritic rated/unrated game list: 360 - http://www.metacritic.com/b... PS3 - http://www.metacritic.com/b... Wii - http://www.metacritic.com/b... Mobygames: 1737 360 games - http://www.mobygames.com/br... 1371 PS3 games - http://www.mobygames.com/br... 1201 Wii games - http://www.mobygames.com/br... Assuming you have basic math skills you are probably aware that 1737 is bigger than 1371 and 1201, and so I'm pretty sure you can't argue with these facts and numbers... Plus, do you even understand how stupid it sounds when you ask me to come up with a game list but write something like "Don't include Halo, Forza, Gears etc."? What do you mean by "etc"? Do you understand that "etc" can count for any game whatsoever and therefore rule out any game come up with?
"It Ain't Over 'Till It's Over" http://www.youtube.com/watc... Sounds like this site need hits
The ps3 is in the under 2 million gap against the 360 . Hell give it props for coming out a year later and being a higher priced console. It's not over this gen for the hardcore systems . But the wii has this one.
The console that I bought and spend the most time on. My PS3. I just refuse to pay for Xbox Live and my Wii just broke a week ago. Hmm don't care that much even though I want to play smash bros. Yea I miss that game already. But the REAL WINNER is whatever console that you bought and enjoy. It doesn't matter which one it is and what people are saying in this article or comment section. It's up to you individually.