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Submitted by legendoflex 748d ago | opinion piece

Zelda Wii U Needs More Than HD Visuals To Succeed

GenGAME writes: "Slapping on a new coat of paint won't be enough to give the Zelda series a modern overhaul. A series renaissance is in order, a renewed focus on the core fun of just exploring Hyrule and surviving against the monsters you find along the way." (The Legend of Zelda, The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword, The Legend Of Zelda: The Wind Waker, The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Wii U, Zelda II: The Adventure of Link)

TheFinalEpisode  +   748d ago
The WiiU Pad seems to go perfect with Zelda. The Zelda menus often suck but the wiiU pad seems like it will make the transition easier from the combat to the menus.
Hisiru  +   748d ago
And maybe they will have some new puzzles with the WiiU Gamepad (like the DS games).
wiiU will be the console that could have a pc style mmos. Think Hot keys on the screen..

I haven't been excited for nintendo in years but I feel good about wiiU as long as they really bring more core games.
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ABizzel1  +   748d ago
This is the first Nintendo console I've been excited for in a long time as well. I've enjoy most of them (with the Wii being the only exception), and it looks like the Wii-U may be the best of them all if they get everything together.

There's still a bunch of confusion regarding just how much 3rd party support they have, what games are launch titles and what's coming between launch and E3 2013, how much is the system going to cost, what are the specs. for the console (which won't be answered until someone buys one and crack it open), how is online going to be handled since MS and Sony are lightyears ahead of Nintendo, and what is Nintendo vision for the Wii-U's lifespan.

A console is an investment. Something you buy with the intent of having around for 5+ years and purchasing games for over that timespan. And with the console launching in less than 5 months these are all questions that should have been answered at E3, not Gamescon, and certainly not TGS (giving less than 2 months of time to process everything). You wouldn't go to a used car dealer and buy a car because the dealer says it's great, and no one is going to buy a Wii-U (except the hardcore fanboys) without knowing exactly what they're getting into with the Wii-U.

I'm interested Nintendo, now sell me on why I should but it.
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PopRocks359  +   748d ago
Yeah, the only way Zelda can succeed is for the franchise to go rated M and introduce guns, gore tits and rape. /s

I believe that Nintendo should do with it what they will. The last thing the world needs is for Zelda to step in Metroid Other M's shoes.

This largely comes from me believing that you're off your rocker if you believe that the original NES game, OoT, Wind Waker and Skyward Sword are somehow all the same. Or you simply have not played them for more than ten minutes.
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Bimkoblerutso  +   748d ago
While I totally agree that the overall experience between the games usually feels wholly unique, there are some...quirks that are becoming mainstays of the franchise that I think really, really need to go. Like the MIDI music. And the hand-holding. And the ever-increasingly obnoxious companions. And Nintendo's insistence on making Ganondorf the villain in EVERY SINGLE GAME.

Nothing that would really alter what it is known and loved for. Just the antiquated crap Nintendo has left in the games in a misguided attempt to preserve the spirit of the franchise.
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PopRocks359  +   747d ago
"And Nintendo's insistence on making Ganondorf the villain in EVERY SINGLE GAME."

First of all, that isn't the case in EVERY SINGLE GAME. [SPOILER ALERT] Go play Skyward Sword.

Secondly, the reason Ganondorf is the villain is because he, like Link and Zelda, transcends through time. Each generation Link, Zelda and Ganondorf are reincarnated to basically repeat history.

Also, what the hell does it matter if Ganondorf is the villain? What exactly is so wrong with that? We've met other villains along the way anyway, such as Zant in TP, Girahim in SS, and the two villains from the Oracle games.
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CouldHaveYelledUiiW  +   748d ago
This was a great read BUT...
For me all the Next Zelda needs is more Skyward Sword game play.

Will the story change in this re-incarnation? Yes.

Will the art style change? Yes.

Will it be HD? Yes.

Will the Game Pad modify Zelda? Different/Original Zelda Tools/Weapons? Handwritten Map Notes? Weapon selection? YES! (& Probably).

But all I need is at least Skyward Sword level Story, Directing, and Game play.

>>>That game was highly Acclaimed- even Perfect Scores- so; I would not mind a repeat. And I don't see why you are acting as if something radical needs to happen to the Franchise.

Honestly, if they did a spin-off beginning right were the original left off I would be very happy.

But all I NEED is more SS game play.

In case you missed this:
" http://n4g.com/news/1035794...
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remanutd55  +   748d ago
is Skyward Sword that good? which did you enjoy better Twilight Princess or Skyward Sword? i still cant believe i havent played Skyward Sword
AznGaara  +   748d ago
I stalled on playing Skyward Sword until recently and I must say... its a really great. The dungeons are probably some of the best among the 3D Zeldas. The overworld is also cool, basically a big dungeon, but I can only see it working with this kind of story. Oh, and speaking of story its pretty epic.

The only gripe I have with SS is that the motion controls are great when they work but they're kind of annoying when they don't. Fights are definitely more strategic but there are those times when you do a stab motion but the game recognizes it as a slice etc. etc. And that was okay in Twilight Princess Wii because enemies weren't as defensive as they are in SS.

Overall though, Skyward Sword is definitely up there in my favorite games. I, personally, would tie it with Twilight Princess, which is right below Ocarina of Time. My favorite game is still Wind Waker :)
CouldHaveYelledUiiW  +   747d ago
I think SS is superior to TP. Even though TP did had some features and characters that I would love to see in future titles.
But the Motion Control Sword fights were great. The first battle with Ghirahim was a wake-up call (from TP).

And the Bomb Rolling (Wii Bowling) and Bow Shooting was great.

The Wiimotes have there issues but the game is forgiving enough that you can recover from technical mistakes. And save stations are well placed so that you have to go through a lot to re-fight a boss.

In the game you get the option to fight all of the previous boss battles with no potions and only in-Fight hearts. You'll be surprised about how much better you've gotten.

Plus, the whole-world dungeon feature was surprisingly satisfying. I was worried that it would feel claustrophobic but they managed to make it feel exactly the opposite.

The Story told through text, camera angles, and Character animations is awesome.

A Problem?
The Item collection Over-Announcement that resets everytime you start a game session. When you collect something for the 1st time, in every game session, you get an annoying, to-menu, animation.

And another is that "the Weapon Select" and "the Use a readied weapon" are all controlled by how long you hold the "B" button and those actions can get confused in the heat of battle.

But too me it was still so great that it was "PERFECT".
And it's easily my favorite Zelda.

My Top 3
1 SS
2 Zelda 1
3 OoT

SS Review
http://wii.ign.com/articles...

TP Review
http://www.ign.com/games/th...
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Jadedz  +   748d ago
*Read's title, then looks at copy of Skyward Sword*
Catch 22?

@CouldHaveYelledUiiW

Intellectually, well said.
remanutd55  +   748d ago
when or i better say if i get a Wii U i will play Skyward Sword too because i got rid of my wii way before the game was even announced and now i want to play it lol, cant wait to see Zelda on the Wii U and more NEW games from Nintendo too
3GenGames  +   748d ago
Anything Nintendo does will succeed if they keep producing games that are above the competition, as graphics aren't needed as long as they aren't terrible. I mean, there's always those games on Nintendo consoles you just can't get on the others as they'd worry about so much more than the game, it'd make the game terrible. Animal Crossing anyone? Pokemon Snap in the N64 days, Smash Bros., etc. Just can't get the same game play on any competitors as they're all generic FPS central basically.
remanutd55  +   748d ago
Heavy Rain
Flower
Journey
inFAMOUS
Motorstorm
Uncharted
The Last of Us
The Last Guardian
Beyond Two Souls
Demons Souls
White Knight Chronicles
Folklore
Fat Princess
Heavenly Sword
DC Universe Online
Eyepet
Pain
Papo & Yo
Valkyria Chronicles
Lair
Sorcery
Resistance
MAG
ModNation
Little Big Planet
games sony has created THIS generation (i know there are more but mostly what you see on the wii), not last, not 3,4,5 generations ago, THIS generation and out of those games only 2 first person shooters so i'd take that you werent talking about ps3, were you?
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3GenGames  +   748d ago
I don't know a lot, but the ones I do know (About 8 of them) were average games at best. MAG was terrible to play. LBP is really good, ModNation is okay, and most of the rest are just average games at best. You can have that garbage, I'll take RPG's and a mixture of just everything instead without 1080p upscaled garbage.

I'm not saying Nintendo games are the best period (I never even play my Wii, mainly my 360), but they just bring more to the table more often at a quality of game play 10x what anyone else brings. And they're only one game maker. If you need to name games from 12+ publishers to even compete with them, I rest my point. Not everyone has the time to sift through the crap and find 10 or so good games out of 1000. And you can't trust reviews today, so there's no way to track the good unknowns unless you know where most come from. Nintendo.

Plus, none of your games are as interesting or deep as what I want. Find me something as flat out fun as Pikmin, adventurous as Mario and Xenoblade, or as much variety as Animal Crossing and WarioWare. There's just nowhere near the diversity, it's all 10x more generic and less fun because of it.
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about 7 or 8 of those games I would buy ps3 is great ps4 will be greater! But I will might want a wiiU to!

Why do people see this kind of behavior as a sin??

lol were there ps1 vs n64 fanboy back then? I forgot..
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remanutd55  +   748d ago
im sorry man but at least you know the name of playstation games, i didnt even know about Animal Crossing, to me Nintendo is Zelda, Zelda is Nintendo, simple as that, i stopped playing Mario when i was 12 years old i think and the others i dont know about them because i havent even seen gameplay videos of those games lol, anyways to each their own, to you Nintendo have experiences that nobody has, to me Sony have the experiences i want to play, but i got to say Zombie u looks interesting then rest is garbage what i see, same thing with the wii, 99.99% were pure shovelware, good thing i still love Zelda, hopefully i see something else besides Zombie U and Zelda to get the Wii U

oh my god i just saw Animal Crossing, Pikmin and Warioware videos on youtube, really man? are you sure those are the games you talking about?

do you know if the Wii U will be able to play wii games? that Xenoblade game looks interesting but i think Demons Souls would put that game to shame lol, anyways now that i've seen gameplay video i want to play it.
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Skateboard  +   748d ago
Sony > Nintendo games wise
bacrec1  +   748d ago
Every game does!
Summons75  +   748d ago
no it dosen't. Honestly after Skyward Sword all it needs is HD and a proper controller and it will be amazing
mamotte  +   748d ago
"Zelda games are awesome, but they would be perfect with HD graphics!"

A wild Nintendo HD console appears!!!

"Zelda Wii U Needs More Than HD Visuals To Succeed"
Water needs to be more than wet to succeed.
mamotte  +   747d ago
so some of the best ranked games of every generation are tasteless water... cant believe you said that.
XXXL  +   748d ago
Skyward sword sucked. I'd love for a classic link to the past type game.
AO1JMM  +   748d ago
Completely disagree with this article.
for we are many  +   747d ago
I don't get you people, you always say that the one thing that is missing from Zelda games is HD. Now all of a sudden HD isn't enough anymore. I think nowadays it's become fashionable and trendy to bash Nintendo and its franchises !!
omarzy  +   747d ago
It has survived damn well without HD visuals. Skyward Sword got amazing reviews, and sold about 4 million(i think) at the end of the wii life span. Hd visuals will be great, but Zelda is the last franchise that needs a doom article.

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