Trophies aren't the only surprise feature Konami is readying for Metal Gear Solid 4. The game's new PS3 the Best budget version will also feature support for full data install.
Gud. Might finally replay it now Edit--I actually find it shocking people will moan about Multiple disks and let this game away with 5 separate installs for a playthrough. Thank God this is getting done finally, shoulda came with the game.
i replayed this game to death unlocked every single emblem and collected every weapons. they better not put a trophy asking for all the emblems but im guessing they will. lol. im ready coz it has been a while
Damn, that's some hard gaming work! Props to you!
me 2, but it's been years so I suppose it will be worth it again. I hope they can patch the install in, otherwise I might go out and buy this version.
It isn't just there, look at this: http://www.konami.jp/mgs4/j... I am laughing at all of the doubters from the earlier story. Also someone in this thread doesn't understand the difference between an install and swapping a disc. Tsk tsk. Considering the amount of time spent attacking PS3 titles, including MGS4, no one is really buying the idea he has played it. I am always amazed at such people that spend more time in PS3/Sony threads on the attack than they do making pro comments in 360/MS threads.
why would you be laughing at the "doubters?" isn't their doubt justified? how many times over the years have we heard this before? sure, this seems more concrete (and, if true, will give me a reason to play through for a 4th time), but why criticize people for learning lessons from recent history? "Also someone in this thread doesn't understand the difference between an install and swapping a disc. Tsk tsk. " he got it just fine, if you ask me. he simply said why criticize disk swapping over loading times. especially since disk swapping takes 5 seconds, and those MGS4 load screens took 3+ minutes. "Considering the amount of time spent attacking PS3 titles, including MGS4, no one is really buying the idea he has played it. I am always amazed at such people that spend more time in PS3/Sony threads on the attack than they do making pro comments in 360/MS threads." this is just flat out hypocrisy. AND, nobody was attacking anything. maybe you shouldn't take things that have nothing to do with you so personally.
if people knew anything they would understand that adriansang isn't kotaku. they don't do hit generation for web clicks. but as will rogers said" common sense ain't common" and morg is dead bang on about people coming into ps3 threads to constantly attack. just sick of it.
i was gonna do that but then i thought they might release a trophies patch so i was saving the hardest difficulty for that
i believe if you still have the save files from your current copy, once it's patched to have trophy support it'll check your saved game data, and you'll get all of the trophies you may have accomplished. knowing kojima, and the trophy list from the HD collection, there's likely going to be a trophy to collect all of the emblems.
Who in the hell is attacking? One of the biggest flaws of MGS4 was waiting for those damn installs. That was just bad game design. I would have rather installed the whole thing or swapped discs because it would have been faster. Oh and one more thing on swapping discs...you have to do that every time you change a game so really, what's the big deal?
@tor: it's useless. People like Morganfell can never admit to or perhaps even see faults in anything PS3 related. He is one of the old die-hards, and it is useless trying to have rational conversations with people like him (same goes for powerofgreen and his many aliases, darksniper, zhuk etc). Fanboys will be fanboys. And you're absolutely right, those installs were far more annoying than a simple disc swap. Plus, they invalidated the whole joke about disc swaps made in the game (I think that was in Act 4).
Wow. The very title of this article is "trolling". It should've never been approved with that title. The information is good but the the title is clearly trolling. I'm a little disappointed in the clear ps3 slant here on a 'News' website.
**** of all the articles I pick not to read, this one has to be the most misleading. We have to rebuy MGS4 if we want to install it. **** that **** Edit---also Lol Morganfell... "he didn't like the 5 installs...Naw can't be true, he must not have played the game" Hurr. Fanboy Logic at it's finest. Edit 2---haha holy **** he bubbled up for it. You never cease to amaze me N4G. @ DA SHREDDER. It's not bad if you want to re buy the game, but what about people who already have it. I suppose I don't really have the right to demand this though, got the game as it was 4 years ago. Don't forget that the Online is gone off now too. It actually had a great online, but the Konami system/id **** was annoying too.
heres the sad part. morg is exactly right. lots of people on this site hate him an i mean really hate him. look at the post of guys like irish guy. hes a huge xbox supporter. nothin wrong with that its his bag. but hes also a ps3 an sony hater and like others of his kind he spends a lot of time in sony ps3 threads attacking attacking attacking. some of them like nuke spend an insane amount of time in ps3 threads. here is a study i did on him recently. http://n4g.com/news/1031384... why? are people that insecure that they cant sleep at night and have to do things like this? is it because as much as they love their xbox they really feel sony has a better machine and games? are they that afraid of sony? why do they do this? sorry dudes but at the end of the day when it all gets broken down people like us that are sick and tired of crap like that are only left with 1 or 2 explanations why people do these things an none of those things has the word objective gamer in them. an light of darkness get off your high horse. peeps can read a post history. you use the same techniqes that got nuke busted. you make it too easy. its jus insulting you think people won't go look at your past. flying just under the radar short of attacks and doing it constantly is the oldest trick in the book but your lack of in depth knowledge possessed by average ps3 gamers gives you away. if you can't be fair why not do the right thing an stay out of threads about a console you despise. an no one is interested in protestations o ownership
This brings back memories about what it was like to get that Big Boss Emblem. Tough challenge ahead.
@Diver: please, tell me how I despise my PS3. Because I can tell you that I love my PS3, but I'm not incapable of noticing flaws with it or its exclusive games. The same goes for any machine or game, nothing is perfect. But you go ahead and do your little N4G police routine. I'm sure every body cares about how right you are about other users on a video game website. Back on topic: it looks like you won't have to re-buy the game, which is good. But I really don't feel like getting that Big Boss Emblem all over again, that was hard :p
Please don't make this "best" budget version an ugly greatest hits label like Heavy Rain's best version (Director's Cut w/ DLC, soundtrack, etc. on disk, but not available in Black Label). Edit: looks like it's also a patch for the regular version, which should have been obvious, but still, I'd rebuy a slightly better version of the game with everything on the disk.
There was never official word about why multiple installa, gaming sites ignored all that as well, I guess that didn't matter considering how damn good the game was Besides, anyone that played the game must agree that those breaks at the end of each chapter were more than welcomed, there were so intensive My guessing was always that full install size was too large for those days standard PS3 modell, 10 GB or more!, we'll see what it turns to be, they might have optimized the amount of data required to install, who knows, all those FW updates afterwards might helped
I disagree about breaks, if I want to take a break, I will. I call these 'forced breaks'. It was just an inconvenience, like changing disks is. It's really not that bad, only a few minutes, but still. If you don't complain about these in MGS4 you literally have no logical reason to moan/laugh at multiple disks. Anyhow you're argument only works when you do a chapter in one sitting.Turning on the game, playing it for 5 minutes and then needing to stop playing for a few mins to install was quite annoying though imo. Again I would have much preferred either changing disks which takes a few seconds, or simply installing the whole game before I play it.
Please don't pull me into those discussions about swaping discs, never cared nor care today, enjoyed Blue Dragon on the X360 despite of being one of thr first with multiple discs. I Just play games
20 dollar download on the psn and I'll buy it.
I didn't really mind the chapter installs but this does make more sense. Wonder why Kojima is doing all this now. Hmm make's me wonder if their will be a MGS5 reveal soon.
Konami probably just needs a boost in sales lol (In all reality, its the 25th anniversary year of MGS, this is how they are celebrating)
Oh i see now. Still can hope for an MGS5 teaser soon though :P
With Metal Gear Online being taken down a week or two before all these crazy announcments about MGS4 getting a bit of a revamping with Trophy support and a more modern/traditional style install.............I'm starting to wonder if maybe Metal Gear Online wasn't taken down to ALSO be revamped to match the quality of modern PS3 games. You know.....like using PSN IDs instead of those rediculous Konami IDs. Perhaps it may even get "re-released" on PSN as Free2Play or something. It just seem SO odd to me that right after it's news that MGO's servers are being taken down, here comes more news of MGS4 getting significantly updated. I think we'll be hearing more about MGO soon as well.
If this is how they're celebrating, someone needs to tach Konami how to party.
@Larry L Oh man don't say stuff like that. I become all giggidy!
God lord please not a MGS5, rather a whole new series. The MGS story can't take another convoluted twist or the space time continuum will break.
It has already been confirmed that their will indeed be a MGS5.
I think that the install is going to be huge so ps3 back in the would lose alot of space even the 80gb mgs4 ps3
Nice. Hope this is included in the patch. I don't see why it wouldn't be.
Agreed. Jumping into the action without waiting is a huge plus so I hope this gets patched for the people who already have the game.
Exactly what I was thinking. It'd definitely make all that jumping around between chapters more bearable once that lovely patch hits.
Sure hope so, same patch as the trophies would be good.
The only reason it wouldn't be included would be the force us to buy the game again if we don't want to go through a mini install each chapter. But I don't think Hideo would do that to us.
I think itäll be in the patch. Reading Konami's official site (google translated into english) it says "patch will deliver the data that you want to add bulk and installation features trophy feature. Customers with software already can accommodate each new feature if it is possible to apply the patch again even without purchase imperative." That last sentence makes me a believer!
The chapter installs were a break from the constant playing. I went and got the game on release, during one of the worst snow storms of the year, and played it nonstop (between work) until I beat it. Edit: Actually it might have been school and I'm pretty sure it got cancelled. See, even God love MGS.
You speak very good English for a guy that I assume lives in the southern hemisphere.
I thought the game came out in winter... the date was June 12th. I googled June 12th 2008 Wisconsin, and there was massive flooding going on that day. So, I have no idea why I remember snow or going to school for that matter. Shit, my story will sound better with floods.
Ha! No big deal, I was just giving you a little shit. The number of disagrees I received leads me to believe that a handful of people on this site aren't aware of the difference in season between hemispheres.
ha yea, assuming you live out of the states, cause there was no Snow here in June/July or school.
At the time MGS4 was released HDD came with consoles were not that big, so Kojima had no choice but make installation chapter-based.
Now over 100GB SKU are common (for 20GB - 60GB models you could replace HDD anytime you want) so finally he decided to patch it.
Wise move I guess.
Metal gear 4 is one of the greatest games the almighty and omnipotent PS3 as ever produce, I will now play it back for the 7th time in my history of playing this powerful and great franchise.
HAHA the greatness known as Psycho_PS3Truthh has made his way to n4g. I gotta say im a big fan of your comments on ign lol
I realize this site is healthy and just as beautiful as IGN so I decided to make an account to spread my love for the greatness of the PS3.
lol.....i agree with BigStef71!!! i keep hearing about this fool at IGN!!! haha....hope you keep you bubbles buddy!!!
As long as he praises sony he will and keeps on topic while bashing ms or m$.
U need to create an account on lensoftruth cuz there is this retarded 360 fanboy named buying1999 on it saying stupid shit like. Heres an example of his comment on the mass effect head 2 head: "The SUPERIOR Xbox 360 is winner again. Better shadows, and sharper textures, again. Business as usual for the SUPERIOR Xbox 360. The over priced internet ready blu ray player can’t just can’t keep up. It’s just a fact. I wonder how much of a M A N D A T O R Y install will be required for this one LOL ? About 4 gig I’m guessing. Oh well here’s yet ANOTHER win for the SUPERIOR Xbox 360." “Xbox 360 is the BEST console EVER made.” –John Carmack It would be funny as shit if u two got into a superior console argument lmao
Thank GOD. I loved MGS4 except I thought the ending dragged on a little too long, imo. But that's just me, I suppose. I would've just rather had separate disks for the chapters rather than Snake tease me with his cigs for a few minutes, lol.
Full data install ? Poor Snake will die infront of our eyes of lung cancer by smoking all those cigarettes.
So glad I havent bought it yet.......Yes I know...GASP, but I wanted to start from the beginging and work through them to understand the story. I hate people who just play a game because it's popular while not giving a shit about the franchise or havent played any of the other installments
My mate did* that with Mass Effect 3. That ticked me off. Guess what? He didn't "get it" right away and soon returned it without beating it. Now he doesn't like the franchise. It's bloody annoying. Anyway. Chronologically you should begin with number three. In case you didn't know that. :)
no he shouldn't. the games should be played in the order of release. thas how they are designed. its like the star wars movies. don't watch em in chronological order bit instead in the order of release.
Better yet don't watch the new Star Wars movies at all :-p
It's cool to play chronologically if you've already beaten the games.... But, realistically, it dosen't work like that, the differences in gameplay mechanics between even MGS3 and 2 may put you off if you've never played them before. Then again, people seem to forget the MSX games and leap straight to MGS1.
true thom but he hadn't played at all yet. didn't forget mg or mg2 or portable ops or peacewalker.
They should be able to patch in the install option. It happened with Bayonetta,
Revival test for MGO would be fantastic.. I still wanna keep playing it, Maybe a update for the complex online system for much quicker sign ups would pull in the crowd. Regardless Ready for the Trophy patch!!
Welp, guess I'll pick it up then X)
saints be praised!
lol at people justifying the HORRIBLE installs in MGS4. that was the single biggest clusterf#$k in game installs in history. want to replay a chapter? tough luck, gotta reinstall that chapter for 10 minutes. then wanna go back to where you were in the next chapter? gonna have to reinstall that chapter for another 10 minutes. it was absolutely terrible, and how it got released like that is beyond me. all in all, this is about 4 years too late. anyone who wanted to play it will have already done so by now. at least now it wont be as painful for any new purchasers as it was for us launch buyers.
Like you even had a PS3 to play MGS4 anyway. It's been a while, but I honestly don't remember finding the installs tedious at all. I just remember the game being a masterpiece. EDIT: @demon31 lol it was only 2 minutes?? That explains EXACTLY why I don't remember the installs being tiresome lmao. Guess I was right about ILoveYou360Fanboys(aka IHateYouPS3Fanboys) not playing MGS4 lol!!!
"Another 10 minutes" it was only 2 minutes to install it... where on hell do you see 10 minutes?
They are not excuses....HDD were smaller, and Sony had a smaller cap on initial installs at the time. Kojima got around it by breaking up the installs..... Dunno why you would be jumping from chapter to chapter anyways.....
***"Dunno why you would be jumping from chapter to chapter anyways....."*** lol You actually think he played the game?
yes! i held out on replaying it for a long time now just for trophy hope
Same here. I played it only once right after it's release. I still have the original copy and I'm SO replaying this game after trophy patch. Good times.
Same here. Still have original copy bought day 1. Finally I have a reason to complete every challenge in the game and get recognized for it!