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Metal Gear Solid 4 Best Version Adds Full Install Support

Trophies aren't the only surprise feature Konami is readying for Metal Gear Solid 4. The game's new PS3 the Best budget version will also feature support for full data install. (Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, PS3)

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Irishguy95  +   1307d ago
Gud. Might finally replay it now

Edit--I actually find it shocking people will moan about Multiple disks and let this game away with 5 separate installs for a playthrough. Thank God this is getting done finally, shoulda came with the game.
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3dawg  +   1307d ago
i replayed this game to death unlocked every single emblem and collected every weapons. they better not put a trophy asking for all the emblems but im guessing they will. lol. im ready coz it has been a while
Eyesoftheraven  +   1307d ago
Damn, that's some hard gaming work! Props to you!
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Nitrowolf2  +   1307d ago
me 2, but it's been years so I suppose it will be worth it again.

I hope they can patch the install in, otherwise I might go out and buy this version.
morganfell  +   1307d ago | Well said
It isn't just there, look at this:

I am laughing at all of the doubters from the earlier story.

Also someone in this thread doesn't understand the difference between an install and swapping a disc. Tsk tsk.

Considering the amount of time spent attacking PS3 titles, including MGS4, no one is really buying the idea he has played it. I am always amazed at such people that spend more time in PS3/Sony threads on the attack than they do making pro comments in 360/MS threads.
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CommonSense  +   1307d ago
why would you be laughing at the "doubters?" isn't their doubt justified? how many times over the years have we heard this before?

sure, this seems more concrete (and, if true, will give me a reason to play through for a 4th time), but why criticize people for learning lessons from recent history?

"Also someone in this thread doesn't understand the difference between an install and swapping a disc. Tsk tsk. "

he got it just fine, if you ask me. he simply said why criticize disk swapping over loading times. especially since disk swapping takes 5 seconds, and those MGS4 load screens took 3+ minutes.

"Considering the amount of time spent attacking PS3 titles, including MGS4, no one is really buying the idea he has played it. I am always amazed at such people that spend more time in PS3/Sony threads on the attack than they do making pro comments in 360/MS threads."

this is just flat out hypocrisy. AND, nobody was attacking anything. maybe you shouldn't take things that have nothing to do with you so personally.
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Diver  +   1307d ago
if people knew anything they would understand that adriansang isn't kotaku. they don't do hit generation for web clicks. but as will rogers said" common sense ain't common"

and morg is dead bang on about people coming into ps3 threads to constantly attack. just sick of it.
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2pacalypsenow  +   1307d ago
i was gonna do that but then i thought they might release a trophies patch so i was saving the hardest difficulty for that
ziggurcat  +   1307d ago
i believe if you still have the save files from your current copy, once it's patched to have trophy support it'll check your saved game data, and you'll get all of the trophies you may have accomplished.

knowing kojima, and the trophy list from the HD collection, there's likely going to be a trophy to collect all of the emblems.
tordavis  +   1307d ago
Who in the hell is attacking? One of the biggest flaws of MGS4 was waiting for those damn installs. That was just bad game design. I would have rather installed the whole thing or swapped discs because it would have been faster. Oh and one more thing on swapping have to do that every time you change a game so really, what's the big deal?
LightofDarkness  +   1307d ago
@tor: it's useless. People like Morganfell can never admit to or perhaps even see faults in anything PS3 related. He is one of the old die-hards, and it is useless trying to have rational conversations with people like him (same goes for powerofgreen and his many aliases, darksniper, zhuk etc). Fanboys will be fanboys.

And you're absolutely right, those installs were far more annoying than a simple disc swap. Plus, they invalidated the whole joke about disc swaps made in the game (I think that was in Act 4).
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mewhy32  +   1306d ago
Wow. The very title of this article is "trolling". It should've never been approved with that title. The information is good but the the title is clearly trolling. I'm a little disappointed in the clear ps3 slant here on a 'News' website.
Irishguy95  +   1306d ago
**** of all the articles I pick not to read, this one has to be the most misleading. We have to rebuy MGS4 if we want to install it. **** that ****

Edit---also Lol Morganfell...
"he didn't like the 5 installs...Naw can't be true, he must not have played the game"

Hurr. Fanboy Logic at it's finest.

Edit 2---haha holy **** he bubbled up for it. You never cease to amaze me N4G.

@ DA SHREDDER. It's not bad if you want to re buy the game, but what about people who already have it. I suppose I don't really have the right to demand this though, got the game as it was 4 years ago. Don't forget that the Online is gone off now too. It actually had a great online, but the Konami system/id **** was annoying too.
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Diver  +   1306d ago
heres the sad part. morg is exactly right. lots of people on this site hate him an i mean really hate him.

 look at the post of guys like irish guy. hes a huge xbox supporter. nothin wrong with that its his bag. but hes also a ps3 an sony hater and like others of his kind he spends a lot of time in sony ps3 threads attacking attacking attacking. some of them like nuke spend an insane amount of time in ps3 threads.

here is a study i did on him recently.

why? are people that insecure that they cant sleep at night and have to do things like this? is it because as much as they love their xbox they really feel sony has a better machine and games? are they that afraid of sony? why do they do this? 

sorry dudes but at the end of the day when it all gets broken down people like us that are sick and tired of crap like that are only left with 1 or 2 explanations why people do these things an none of those things has the word objective gamer in them.

an light of darkness get off your high horse. peeps can read a post history. you use the same techniqes that got nuke busted. you make it too easy. its jus insulting you think people won't go look at your past. flying just under the radar short of attacks and doing it constantly is the oldest trick in the book but your lack of in depth knowledge possessed by average ps3 gamers gives you away. if you can't be fair why not do the right thing an stay out of threads about a console you despise. an no one is interested in protestations o ownership
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AKS  +   1306d ago
This brings back memories about what it was like to get that Big Boss Emblem. Tough challenge ahead.
LightofDarkness  +   1306d ago
@Diver: please, tell me how I despise my PS3. Because I can tell you that I love my PS3, but I'm not incapable of noticing flaws with it or its exclusive games. The same goes for any machine or game, nothing is perfect. But you go ahead and do your little N4G police routine. I'm sure every body cares about how right you are about other users on a video game website.

Back on topic: it looks like you won't have to re-buy the game, which is good. But I really don't feel like getting that Big Boss Emblem all over again, that was hard :p
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EeJLP-  +   1306d ago
Please don't make this "best" budget version an ugly greatest hits label like Heavy Rain's best version (Director's Cut w/ DLC, soundtrack, etc. on disk, but not available in Black Label).

Edit: looks like it's also a patch for the regular version, which should have been obvious, but still, I'd rebuy a slightly better version of the game with everything on the disk.
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MazzingerZ  +   1307d ago
There was never official word about why multiple installa, gaming sites ignored all that as well, I guess that didn't matter considering how damn good the game was

Besides, anyone that played the game must agree that those breaks at the end of each chapter were more than welcomed, there were so intensive

My guessing was always that full install size was too large for those days standard PS3 modell, 10 GB or more!, we'll see what it turns to be, they might have optimized the amount of data required to install, who knows, all those FW updates afterwards might helped
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Irishguy95  +   1307d ago
I disagree about breaks, if I want to take a break, I will. I call these 'forced breaks'. It was just an inconvenience, like changing disks is. It's really not that bad, only a few minutes, but still. If you don't complain about these in MGS4 you literally have no logical reason to moan/laugh at multiple disks.

Anyhow you're argument only works when you do a chapter in one sitting.Turning on the game, playing it for 5 minutes and then needing to stop playing for a few mins to install was quite annoying though imo. Again I would have much preferred either changing disks which takes a few seconds, or simply installing the whole game before I play it.
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MazzingerZ  +   1306d ago
Please don't pull me into those discussions about swaping discs, never cared nor care today, enjoyed Blue Dragon on the X360 despite of being one of thr first with multiple discs. I Just play games
DA_SHREDDER  +   1306d ago
20 dollar download on the psn and I'll buy it.
WeskerChildReborned  +   1307d ago
I didn't really mind the chapter installs but this does make more sense. Wonder why Kojima is doing all this now. Hmm make's me wonder if their will be a MGS5 reveal soon.
Soldierone  +   1307d ago
Konami probably just needs a boost in sales lol

(In all reality, its the 25th anniversary year of MGS, this is how they are celebrating)
WeskerChildReborned  +   1307d ago
Oh i see now. Still can hope for an MGS5 teaser soon though :P
Larry L  +   1307d ago
With Metal Gear Online being taken down a week or two before all these crazy announcments about MGS4 getting a bit of a revamping with Trophy support and a more modern/traditional style install.............I'm starting to wonder if maybe Metal Gear Online wasn't taken down to ALSO be revamped to match the quality of modern PS3 games. You using PSN IDs instead of those rediculous Konami IDs. Perhaps it may even get "re-released" on PSN as Free2Play or something.

It just seem SO odd to me that right after it's news that MGO's servers are being taken down, here comes more news of MGS4 getting significantly updated. I think we'll be hearing more about MGO soon as well.
FantasticHood  +   1307d ago
If this is how they're celebrating, someone needs to tach Konami how to party.
Aggesan  +   1307d ago
@Larry L Oh man don't say stuff like that. I become all giggidy!
andibandit  +   1307d ago
God lord please not a MGS5, rather a whole new series.
The MGS story can't take another convoluted twist or the space time continuum will break.
WeskerChildReborned  +   1307d ago
It has already been confirmed that their will indeed be a MGS5.
raiden-49  +   1307d ago
I think that the install is going to be huge so ps3 back in the would lose alot of space even the 80gb mgs4 ps3
MrBeatdown  +   1307d ago
Nice. Hope this is included in the patch. I don't see why it wouldn't be.
Outsider-G  +   1307d ago
Agreed. Jumping into the action without waiting is a huge plus so I hope this gets patched for the people who already have the game.
WildArmed  +   1307d ago
Exactly what I was thinking. It'd definitely make all that jumping around between chapters more bearable once that lovely patch hits.
BitbyDeath  +   1307d ago
Sure hope so, same patch as the trophies would be good.
jessupj  +   1307d ago
The only reason it wouldn't be included would be the force us to buy the game again if we don't want to go through a mini install each chapter.

But I don't think Hideo would do that to us.
Aggesan  +   1307d ago
I think itäll be in the patch. Reading Konami's official site (google translated into english) it says "patch will deliver the data that you want to add bulk and installation features trophy feature. Customers with software already can accommodate each new feature if it is possible to apply the patch again even without purchase imperative."

That last sentence makes me a believer!
MrBeatdown  +   1307d ago
Nice find!
roadkillers  +   1307d ago
The chapter installs were a break from the constant playing. I went and got the game on release, during one of the worst snow storms of the year, and played it nonstop (between work) until I beat it.

Edit: Actually it might have been school and I'm pretty sure it got cancelled. See, even God love MGS.
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Hoje0308  +   1307d ago
You speak very good English for a guy that I assume lives in the southern hemisphere.
roadkillers  +   1307d ago
I thought the game came out in winter... the date was June 12th. I googled June 12th 2008 Wisconsin, and there was massive flooding going on that day. So, I have no idea why I remember snow or going to school for that matter. Shit, my story will sound better with floods.
Hoje0308  +   1307d ago
Ha! No big deal, I was just giving you a little shit. The number of disagrees I received leads me to believe that a handful of people on this site aren't aware of the difference in season between hemispheres.
Nitrowolf2  +   1307d ago
ha yea, assuming you live out of the states, cause there was no Snow here in June/July or school.
crinale  +   1307d ago
At the time MGS4 was released HDD came with consoles were not that big, so Kojima had no choice but make installation chapter-based.
Now over 100GB SKU are common (for 20GB - 60GB models you could replace HDD anytime you want) so finally he decided to patch it.
Wise move I guess.
Psycho_PS3Truthh  +   1307d ago
Metal gear 4 is one of the greatest games the almighty and omnipotent PS3 as ever produce, I will now play it back for the 7th time in my history of playing this powerful and great franchise.
BigStef71  +   1307d ago
HAHA the greatness known as Psycho_PS3Truthh has made his way to n4g. I gotta say im a big fan of your comments on ign lol
Psycho_PS3Truthh  +   1307d ago
I realize this site is healthy and just as beautiful as IGN so I decided to make an account to spread my love for the greatness of the PS3.
onyoursistersback  +   1307d ago
lol.....i agree with BigStef71!!! i keep hearing about this fool at IGN!!! haha....hope you keep you bubbles buddy!!!
Jazz4108  +   1306d ago
As long as he praises sony he will and keeps on topic while bashing ms or m$.
BigStef71  +   1306d ago
U need to create an account on lensoftruth cuz there is this retarded 360 fanboy named buying1999 on it saying stupid shit like. Heres an example of his comment on the mass effect head 2 head:

"The SUPERIOR Xbox 360 is winner again. Better shadows, and sharper textures, again. Business as usual for the SUPERIOR Xbox 360. The over priced internet ready blu ray player can’t just can’t keep up. It’s just a fact. I wonder how much of a M A N D A T O R Y install will be required for this one LOL ? About 4 gig I’m guessing.
Oh well here’s yet ANOTHER win for the SUPERIOR Xbox 360."

“Xbox 360 is the BEST console EVER made.” –John Carmack

It would be funny as shit if u two got into a superior console argument lmao
KeiserSosay4788  +   1307d ago
Thank GOD. I loved MGS4 except I thought the ending dragged on a little too long, imo. But that's just me, I suppose. I would've just rather had separate disks for the chapters rather than Snake tease me with his cigs for a few minutes, lol.
Rampaged Death  +   1307d ago
Full data install ? Poor Snake will die infront of our eyes of lung cancer by smoking all those cigarettes.
VanillaBear  +   1307d ago
Best version....:)

So glad I havent bought it yet.......Yes I know...GASP, but I wanted to start from the beginging and work through them to understand the story. I hate people who just play a game because it's popular while not giving a shit about the franchise or havent played any of the other installments
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Moby-Royale  +   1307d ago
My mate did* that with Mass Effect 3. That ticked me off. Guess what? He didn't "get it" right away and soon returned it without beating it. Now he doesn't like the franchise.

It's bloody annoying.


Chronologically you should begin with number three. In case you didn't know that.

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Diver  +   1307d ago
no he shouldn't. the games should be played in the order of release. thas how they are designed. its like the star wars movies. don't watch em in chronological order bit instead in the order of release.
BitbyDeath  +   1307d ago
Better yet don't watch the new Star Wars movies at all :-p
PirateThom  +   1307d ago
It's cool to play chronologically if you've already beaten the games....

But, realistically, it dosen't work like that, the differences in gameplay mechanics between even MGS3 and 2 may put you off if you've never played them before.

Then again, people seem to forget the MSX games and leap straight to MGS1.
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Diver  +   1307d ago
true thom but he hadn't played at all yet. didn't forget mg or mg2 or portable ops or peacewalker.
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Skate-AK  +   1307d ago
They should be able to patch in the install option. It happened with Bayonetta,
Neo-Axl  +   1307d ago
Revival test for MGO would be fantastic.. I still wanna keep playing it, Maybe a update for the complex online system for much quicker sign ups would pull in the crowd. Regardless Ready for the Trophy patch!!
Convas  +   1307d ago
Welp, guess I'll pick it up then X)
DivineAssault  +   1307d ago
saints be praised!
IHateYouFanboys  +   1307d ago
lol at people justifying the HORRIBLE installs in MGS4.

that was the single biggest clusterf#$k in game installs in history. want to replay a chapter? tough luck, gotta reinstall that chapter for 10 minutes. then wanna go back to where you were in the next chapter? gonna have to reinstall that chapter for another 10 minutes. it was absolutely terrible, and how it got released like that is beyond me.

all in all, this is about 4 years too late. anyone who wanted to play it will have already done so by now. at least now it wont be as painful for any new purchasers as it was for us launch buyers.
Outside_ofthe_Box  +   1307d ago
Like you even had a PS3 to play MGS4 anyway.

It's been a while, but I honestly don't remember finding the installs tedious at all. I just remember the game being a masterpiece.

EDIT: @demon31

lol it was only 2 minutes?? That explains EXACTLY why I don't remember the installs being tiresome lmao. Guess I was right about ILoveYou360Fanboys(aka IHateYouPS3Fanboys) not playing MGS4 lol!!!
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demon31  +   1307d ago
"Another 10 minutes" it was only 2 minutes to install it... where on hell do you see 10 minutes?
Soldierone  +   1307d ago
They are not excuses....HDD were smaller, and Sony had a smaller cap on initial installs at the time. Kojima got around it by breaking up the installs.....

Dunno why you would be jumping from chapter to chapter anyways.....
Outside_ofthe_Box  +   1307d ago
***"Dunno why you would be jumping from chapter to chapter anyways....."***

lol You actually think he played the game?
OldSnakePS3  +   1307d ago
yes! i held out on replaying it for a long time now just for trophy hope

patience FTW
insomnium2  +   1307d ago
Same here. I played it only once right after it's release. I still have the original copy and I'm SO replaying this game after trophy patch. Good times.
mastemikegee  +   1306d ago
Same here. Still have original copy bought day 1. Finally I have a reason to complete every challenge in the game and get recognized for it!
MacUser1986  +   1307d ago
I hope to see this game on the PSN for download now as well.
Heavenly King  +   1307d ago
It will take a lot of time to download 50gigs
iMpuTeD  +   1307d ago
so whats the US price gonna be???
PirateThom  +   1307d ago
It's funny how all of this is being announced and done and Kojima is currently in South America and, from what I can tell, drinking a lot.

Good times.

Yeah, I'd dedicate the space to a full install.
Psycho_Mantis  +   1307d ago
A full install eh? Thats nice... but why didnt they ever do it in the first place?? I still to this day never understood that.
PirateThom  +   1307d ago
PS3 used to have limits on install sizes, it was how they got around the limit... would be hypocritical to not allow it when GT5 and RAGE are allowed more than the initial limit.
Unztayble  +   1307d ago
So this is gonna cost $50? that's a bit expensive. $39.99 seems more reasonable. Even then most PS3 owners have this game, so they should really be selling this for like 20 bucks.
PirateThom  +   1307d ago
In Japan, yes, but they pay more anyway for games. If it comes out in the US, it'll be cheaper but, I'm fairly certain it has a Greatest Hits or whatever version anyway and it'll be patched with the same updates.
JeepGamer  +   1307d ago
I've gotten the best ranking possible in all four MGS games. I laugh at your trophies.
matgrowcott  +   1307d ago
Yeah, but if you had the trophies to prove it, I'd be more willing to believe you.

Now you're just a guy on a message board potentially talking crap.
PygmelionHunter  +   1307d ago
Either believe him or not, no one should need trophies to prove s***.

On a side note, it's kind of sad seeing how so many gamers wait for stupid crap like trophies to replay such a great game... Almost makes me think that gaming is doomed. *starts writing doom article* /s
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matgrowcott  +   1307d ago

My point was that unlocking trophies and in-game content can work together better than individually. He posted it on here either to brag or to troll over "trophies are lame, lol." Keep in mind, this isn't an article about trophies, so why bring it up?

If he's bragging, yes he needs proof. If he's trolling, well, my point is that with trophies he'd have his proof.

As for your side note: people are forgetting a few key facts when they're saying things like you just did. When the trophy patch came out for PS3, not a single developer (except for Infinity Ward with Call of Duty 4) out and out said that there wouldn't be a trophy patch for their game, because they were worried that it would knock sales.

Take a look at Valkyria Chronicles and Metal Gear Solid 4 especially - both had PR people say multiple times: "we're looking into it," "these things take time" or "never say never." At the time it made it very difficult to play through a game - especially a long game - knowing that you'd have to do it all again if the developers ever made good on their PR promise.
JeepGamer  +   1306d ago
While it is true that I don't give a flying flip about trophies and would actually disable them on my PSN account if I could if it removed the restrictions that went along with them I'd do so...

My point here was that I had already accomplished what I considered to be the greatest feat in MGS games so the addition of trophies to MGS4 means nothing to me. I am neither bragging nor trolling as I am the only person whose opinion matters when it comes to my gaming accomplishments or lack of them.
PygmelionHunter  +   1306d ago
While I do agree that the article is not about trophies and we both took his bait and replied, you didn't say a single thing that would make me think differently about trophies/achievements, if anything, my comment was reinforced.

Here's a question, why can't games have an award system like the one in Brawl, in which you achieve something and get in-game content for your effort, whether or not it's published online shouldn't matter, because, let's be honest here, people use this system only to brag about, I actually admire the few people who like collecting trophies because they enjoy completing the tasks stablished for each game.
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KrimsonKody  +   1307d ago
They should find a way to integrate the trophy system with the achievements that you've already done.
For ex;
If you have collected all the weapons already & they add a trophy for it, then it should calculate so, & just give you the trophy.

Also, I BET this is gonna be one of the trophies;
Clear the Act 5 Ship Bow area on the hardest difficulty without killing any frogs or getting any alerts!

Nope, the install times were not gruesome @ all.
There's an estimate countdown that let's you know how many minutes U have left.
Not to mention, there's only 5 installs. It's not like it's 10-13 installs.
Plus, your mind is too in awe & busy comprehending what just happened after each chapter.
So an total install, all 5 acts - 10minutes, honestly isn't bad @ all.

Yes, adding MGO would be ultra sexy
(Construction site whistles)

& I think games/movies should be experienced by release date, not chronologically.

If you watch chronologically, subtle details may be misunderstood or questionable as you make your way across the timeline.
If you watch by elease date, you can see where the 'original' idea/story is coming from, then as you make your way to the later iterations (the prequels), you can see where the directing or production may or may not have went wrong.
In the case of MGS;
That's the beauty of the franchise
You can play it chronologically or by release date, & either way, the story is still fitting, straight-forward & comprehensible.
Chronologically, the games play out like one really big story.
By release date, the games play out like a story with flashback elements. In this fashion, the story is still really big, but it doesn't appear so, because the pacing of each iteration allows your brain to take a break from the mindblowing events that you experience.
Playing chronologically can be like a long walk up a steep hill, for the story will get heavier & heavier as you move on.
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ZBlacktt  +   1307d ago
Why pull the plug on MGO when all this was in the works?????? Hello online trophies for MGO. Get people back to playing???? Just a crazy idea I guess.
bahabeast  +   1307d ago
they give trophies wen the online component is now gone
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chukamachine  +   1307d ago
Ahh, just what i was waiting for, full install.
PersonMan  +   1307d ago
Every game should have install support.
topekomsi  +   1307d ago
So call me sheltered but until the MGS collection for vita, i have never touched MGS (except for like 5 mins when mgs4 was my first game on ps3), and i was like "this stealth shit is hard" never touched it after.

Well now i would say im starting to get very interested in the series, i'm gonna have to buy ps3 version of HD collection, just for peacewalker (damn) and transfarring.

Glad to see MGS4 getting a fluff, trophies fvck yeah!
trenken311  +   1307d ago
I was very disappointed in this game. Worst MGS game by a mile. Some useless e-awards I couldnt possibly care less about wont save it.
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crazy_gooner  +   1306d ago
Was looking forward to playing this after a few years so this is good news. MGS series is one of the best ever and MGS4 is probably Konami's best game this gen.
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