Red Ring of Death, Hacking Scandals, Failed Console Launches, Vapourware and more all discussed
That picture says it all.
GameCube, Wii, xbox, Xbox 360, Wii u
N4g isn't a place for honest opinions. GameCube -lacked games Wii- lacked core games Xbox- lacked games Xbox 360 - too much negatives to list Wii u- just watch e3 2011 and 2012 To each his own. People think Wii is a success but to who? Can't play sales
Good read and pretty much spot on. Xbox 360 failure rate of pre-slim consoles, Playstation hacked and 77 million users' information spread across the web (WOW that's HUGE), and didn't even have preparation for leap year (wow that was genius), and virtual boy( before it's time). Good article.
@morrigan...I think you are misinterpreting what the article is about. It isnt about the failure of a platform but more specifically about failures within the platform that stand out. RROD is a failure to the 360 platform but it doesnt mean the 360 failed overall. They were able to recover. same with the PSN hack and YLOD. Both have hit and both have been dealt with by Sony to keep the platform going. The simple lack of games (or more specifically...appealing games to you) is not a failure within the platforms you listed. All of them have their pros. Now if there was a scandal involving the wii and use of certain attachments that caused problems for gameplay then I would imagine it being on the list. (edit: the loss of control of the wiimote, sending it flying out of your hands while playing. that is a good example of a failure within the wii platform) As it is, just the lack of games isnt enough of a reason to make the list. And as for guapo and darkride...same rules apply for the 3do, jag and neogeo. All 3 were platform failures due to interest but none of them had any specific failures within the platforms that equated to being hacked or consistent hardware design flaws. I can understand your pov but that isnt what the article is relating to. Perhaps there needs to be simply a "failed consoles" list where as this one is about failures within the console platform.
So you think every console besides the ps 1,2 and 3. How predictable of you
liquid you so quick to pull the fanboy card you forgot he didn't mention i dunno Dreamcast,SNES,Genesis, and multiple others?
@ BlackTar187 It is what it is.
#1's gotta be the PS3. No way a console can forfeit as much market share as the PS3 did compared to the PS2 and not be considered a fail
Lol, if it wasn't for xbox, our console gaming online wouldn't be as good as it is today. Also, the original xbox had a shit ton of great games. Dead or Alive, Crimson Skies, Doom 3 (yes i know it was on PC too) PGR, Halo 1-2, Bloodwake, Breakdown, Brute Force, Conker: Live and Reloaded, Dino Crisis 3 and the list goes on!
My list would be Xbox 360 Nintendo Virtual Boy Atari Jaguar Sega Nomad Neo Geo CD Runner up: 3DO ^just my opinion. I think the only console I never owned was the Nintendo Virtual Boy. It was THAT bad.
Wii U still look's pretty good even though the launch lineup doesn't seem that great but i am looking forward to Aliens, AC3, and ZombiU.
How in the hell is the PS3 going to be on there on a list of all time? Was he born 10 years ago? Where is Atari Jaguar? Where is Panasonic 3DO? Where is Neo Geo with it's $200 per game system? This author fails on multiple levels.
Indeed. The PS3 fails? Please. They're so freakn small why even bother mentioning it. The leap year bug, gamers were inconvenienced for a day, but still able to play everything they owned. The PS3 hack, Sony prudently took down the service to shore things up, fixed it, offered fraud protection even though all the data lost was encrypted and then offered free, retail games. Yeah, that was quite the "scheme". I sure felt bad about downloading free, AAA retail games. And again, nothing about this kept people from playing their titles. This is no worse than when XBL went down for about a month for some over the holiday rush, and MS didn't even bother refunding money back to people who had paid for the service for that month but instead offered a craptacular diving game. So the leap year thing get's a mention for bugging gamers for a day, but not this? Or how about when bugs with Windows Live ID's let god knows how many XBL accounts get hijacked? Even the PS2 laser issues don't warrant a mention. That actually stopped people from playing, even though it was easily fixed by anyone with a screwdriver and the ability to open their console, and Sony eventually refunded people the repair costs. But to include the PSN attack, like it was somehow Sony's blunder? Sony and their customers were the victims here, but still, these were minor annoyances that never once stopped users from enjoying their games. When you look at such epic fails as the Sega 32x, or like mentioned above the 3DO, Jaguar, etc...it certainly makes the temporary inability to sign on to a console seem pale.
@Darkride... you do know that when Live went down that holiday season.. it wasn't for everyone. People were still playing online, just some people couldn't get on. That's far from being the same as all of PSN being shut down because it was hacked. Far from the same. Great spin though. Xbox Live was nowhere even close to being down for a Month. SDF are true warriors.
Running an online service like PSN and not having qualified people on staff to have to outsource a company to tell you what information has be comprised is a HUGE eff up. Especially with how dependent gaming is with online nowadays. Any company that has customers credit card information should have the utmost security.
@darkride "This is no worse than when XBL went down for about a month for some over the holiday rush." a month? i would say thats strectching it by a lightyear. Is the PS3 a fail? not for the consumers, but looking at it from Sony's angle they went from all out dominant to WTF.
where is the PS2 failure rates?.
all current gen consoles marketed saying 1080p games fail!!
Thats what Im wondering.. My poor fat PS2 and those disc read errors :(
You mean the best selling video game console of all time? That console is still selling after all these years.
am i one of the only people to never get rrod? lol ive had the 360 since a little past launch. maybe because my room stays in the low 60's helped? ive had every console since the nes except the wii. only 2 have kicked, the. dreamcast -controller ports stopped working, my ps2- redish screen + failed to read discs. both were pretty common.
It depends on the heat and how much dust is in your room. I think dust was a huge factor of the problem. I had a launch 360 but it crapped out on me after a year and a half. Took it apart and the heatsinks were just caked in dust. Now i have the Elite 120GB Jasper unit from 2009 and still no problems yet, but i clean it every 3 months and also install my most played games to keep the moving parts down to a minimum.
@ NoFanboyRequire yeah man, with a jasper your safe. someone i know repairs and mods 360's and ever since, he has not seen a single jasper come in with problems. The only thing i hate about my fat 360 is it sounds like an airplane...but oh well. if i care enough one day ill get the guy to install some silent pc fans.
No your not alone there are lots of original Xbox 360s still working great, mine is over 5 years old and I play the crap out of it.
Atari Jaguar, Sega CD, Sega DreamCast. Turbo Graphics 16, 3DO... @liquidhalos... my only thought to you is, there are way more than 8 consoles, you named 3, @Morrigan-Aensland named 5...
and them some. A 50% fail rate is super huge, lol.
Funny how Virtual Boy is only at #4
I kind of liked the Virtual Boy lol
So you were the person that liked it. I remember reading about you back in '96.
@sticky lmao that actually made me laugh thanks :)
LOL @sticky. Bubbles up
I owned one and liked it too. LOL
The 3DO should really have been there as well as the CDi.
neither of those platforms had any real "failures" within them. They were simply failed consoles which this article isnt about.
that's probably because that's how many people actually had one. ^_^
Woah buddy, I owned a Panasonic 3DO. Awesome system for it's time. Just poor management. Also the way you hooked up multiple controllers. The system had one controller port and each controller had a controller port. So you can see how NOT cool that was...
my comment was actually about the virtual boy being number 4, i clicked reply to that post but some many people had replied before me. i actually wanted a 3do, never did manage to get one, in fact i don't think i've ever actually seen one in real life. i live in the uk and they were extremely rare here.
Hard to express how I meant it to come across, I wasn't ticked cuz of what you said. I was just messing around. Since it wasn't for me anyways - water under the bridge. As for the 3DO, you might find one on Ebay.
that's cool. i always thought that was weird the way the joypads connected on the 3do, i guess that was their way of passing the cost of the controller ports on to the consumers. bit of a cheek considering the price of the machines at the time. i'll have to look into getting one on ebay one day, when my finances will allow it. o_O i think i've still got a few 3do demos discs lying around somewhere from when i bought some of the 3do magazines cheap on a market stall years ago. i know i had a Super Street Fighter 2 demo disc.
RRoD rivals the PS2's DRE. I knew maybe 15 - 20 people who had bought a PS2 within a month or two of its launch window. Every single one stopped reading discs within 18 months, including mine, which stopped 1 year to the day after I bought it. After discovering Sony was charging a couple bucks less than full retail price to repair units, I decided that they were running some kinda scam and blew my new paperweight up in my backyard. I've got a PS2 slim now that has lasted 7 or 8 years, but I was mad as hell about the PS2 phats back in the day. I avoided buying a PS3 until more than a year after launch to avoid the same fate, although I ended up with YLoD anyway. I don't believe YLoD is a rampant problem like DRE or RRoD, though. I'm the only one I know who has had it among all of my PS3-owning friends.
yea, i tried to fix it myself. helped, but not for long time. same for my friends. but my slim still workin. same was with PSX, but N4G kids only remember PS3 start, so u get disagres ;)
Yeah, I never had a problem with my PS1, although some of my friends did. One of them used to have to lay it upside down for it to read discs. Was really weird. Aside from having to blow into cartridges for NES/SNES/Genesis, I've never had any faulty hardware aside from PS2 and PS3.
I remember the first time I was by my cousins and they had their PS1 sideways... I couldn't stop laughin' and I didn't even knew why. Personally I had problems with the original Xbox and PS2 DVD drivers, nothing before or after that... Kinda. My launch 60GB PS3 were freezing/locking weird so I just sold it and bought a slim before I could ever see what YLOD is all about. None of my friends who had an original 360 still ownn it, either it RRODed or they sold it and got a newer model just in case as I did. I heard some early Wii consoles had a risk to melt something inside too if left in standby for to long... If anything, this is by far the generation where I heard the most about hardware failure.
Admittedly we have 3 PS2s in our house (one is 9 years old the other 2 are 7) and they still have working drives. The only issue was dust (which I clean) covering the diode thus preventing discs from reading. Our PS3 broke after 4 years of age, our 360 broke after 3. Conclusion: Sh*t happens.
I think shit happens to any company as devices get more and more complex, but the important thing is how the company handles it! MS: Did wonderful on the 3-year warranty, but really should have acknowledge the problem sooner. I guess their sales would have taken a huge hit though. Sony: Never acknowledged the DRE, settled after a lawsuit and the people affected only got a $20-35 if they had a receipt years later i.e. their PS2 was left as a brick. Nintendo: Most recently had overhearing graphics card that was fixed and was acknowledged. I don't think they extended the warranty, but they did generously give out free Wii mote jackets after the fact. Cost them millions.
My PS2 is still going but some disks need a good 10 tries to get a game to work, and many people I know ended up buying a second one because the original ones failed. Then my ps3 ended up getting YLOD, i managed to get someone to open it up and fix it so i traded it in for £100 off a slim just to be sure. But then when my 360 broke down because of the 3 year warranty MS picked it up for free, and in a couple weeks I got a working one back. RROD may have been a more widespread problem, but they've dealt with it very well. The ps3 is great but the amount of stories ive heard about rude and unhelpful sony customer service staff, along with the high prices they charged for a fix, meant I just decided to avoid that altogether and get it sorted myself. I remember watchdog did a piece on it on TV and Sony still hasn't gone to great lengths to sort it out with the older models, and MS only really extended the warranties due to pressure. They're all as bad as each other in the end, for some reason sony was pretty much forgiven for YLOD though =/
It all needs to be compared to the 100.000.000 PS2 consoles sold by now ?
I bet replacement units count for a lot of the PS2's sales, much like the 360.
That picture meant I got a free 3 year replacement which I only had to use once but my 360 was well over a year old anyway.
the replace was opnly for RROD correct ? the other issues like scratched discs etc. were not covered or where they i had 3 RROD 360's bought a 4th basically when that warranty was announced and never broke one again lol. The use also went down i had a roommate who played as much as me int he first 3 so i bet that was a huge cause never turned it off for like 2 years.
I had 8 360's before the slim came out. Got the slim at launch back in 2010 and had no problems. F**KING M$! They KNEW there was a problem and they launched in 2005 anyway. That and the casual switch has turned me against them now. I play most of the time on my good old PS3.
Carefull! I agree with you but you might get people on here saying MS never made any switch. They say MS had that Nuts and Bolts game and such so they were always casual. They might even call you a Sony nuthugger for saying things like that. Just a friendly heads up. See? Aleady one disagree for both of us.
I meant to agree with you, but disagreed on accident... I feel like congress right now. :/
I've had 25 ps3s die of ylod........lah lah lah...I actually had two die one of ylod and one a faulty bluray drive. I had one 360 die but ms sent me a new slim to replace it for free while sony wanted over 100.00 to fix and it was only 13 months old. If sony would of stuck making the original fat ps3s I think you might have had a recall by now as they were not only expensive but faulty. I will never buy another game console from ms or sony without a extended warranty. If you ask me they all our pretty greedy. Ms fo releasing a faulty system and sony for making owners pay for there line of bad ps2s and ps3s.
360 failure rate is the worst.
If you had 8 360s that died because of RROD, then you were doing something wrong. 360's need ventilation, my first 360 only lasted a year because I was an idiot and had it in a place where it would suck in it's own hot exhaust air to cool. My 2nd 360 just recently red ringed after 4 rigorous years of gaming, and that one is the very first generation of 360's that run way hotter than the other 360's. Luckily fixing them in't very hard, so my current 360 will live on until at least next gen arrives.
Console fails? How about getting an adult to write your articles? Jeez, so much crap written by kids on n4g
Dunno, the guy who wrote it looks like an adult to me. Unless kids are capable of growing massive beards these days.
Yea...maybe physically but mentally? nope
Oh I dunno, it was well written, was based on actual facts that actually happened, backed up by strong sources and made fair and balanced comments. You know, just saying and all that...
You sound like Fox News lol. What strong sources?
You have RRD but you don't have YLD....for shame. I went through 6 ps3's because of that before the Slim came out. Never had a problem with RRD only time I got a new xbox was for the upgrade, till slim came out now I just have that.
YLD is almost non-existant. For me at least. I think the fail rate was 4%? You're super unlucky.
It happened to almost everyone I knew, basically half the high school, which had about 1500 students attending.
"It happened to almost everyone I knew, basically half the high school, which had about 1500 students attending." You owe me a new bullshit detector. Mine just exploded from your comment. Of all the people I know who bought PS3s, my original 60 gig is the only one that died. Of all the people I know who bought 360s, none of them has one anymore, after going through multiple replacements. The exception to that is the 360 that's co-owned by my little brothers, which hasn't been turned on since Gears 2 and sits in a closet.
I'm calling BS on 6 ps3's The failure rate at 4% and you to have 6 of them is almost impossible. Sorry you have to play your system in a sauna to have 6 of them in that time. When was the last one before this yea you were what 1.25 consoles a rolling 12 month period? Im calling shenanigans 1/2 the high school lol. Was it located on MS corporate HQ's?